The Deep Dance Of Male And Female Energy

The dance of male and female energy; the needs of either sex; and the struggle to come together to form a meaningful relationship were all highlighted. As always, the Satsang helped open minds and hearts.

Please note, some long pauses of silence occurred when the technology paused for some moments.

Interestingly enough, Premasudha's teachings include seeing events in life, even small ones like this, as metaphors, created by our Souls to assist our understanding. This way of seeing means viewing oneself in a play of life, with dramatic events, objects and spoken words, all giving us information about our spiritual journey.

Premasudha just laughed at the silences, thinking they simply reflected the egos' discomfiture at the depth of the satsang. (Those darn egos will get up to their tricks!)

Transcript

Well,

It's good to see all of you guys.

You know,

It,

I'll tell you,

It never loses its thrill.

Yeah,

It's a thrill.

Thank you.

Yeah,

Good,

Good.

Some of you are feeling happier.

It's good.

A couple of you who were blue last week are feeling happier.

It's good.

Aha.

Okay.

Hey.

Yeah,

Feeling you all.

Yeah.

Some of you were in your child stuff a little.

It's okay.

It's okay.

It's what it's like.

We get in it and come out of it.

That's it.

I just wanted to emphasize something from last week,

Which was,

You know,

Alex's contribution about her or the week before about her intense feelings about this dog.

And remember,

Another person came in with what she knew was that dogs raised in this situation become aggressive.

So Alex found that intensely validating,

And it is.

And that's what I want to say to particularly all the women,

Is if you get a really strong emotional reaction,

It can have stuff to do with your childhood.

But sometimes it is because it's really,

Really important that you take action now.

So,

You know,

If you do feel a lot of emotion,

Sit with it before you take action.

But don't berate yourself for strong,

Uncomfortable emotions that other people are disapproving of.

Do you see?

It may rock the family boat a bit,

But it might be saving you real hardship in the future.

So,

It can be both.

It can be both a childhood clearing,

Say,

And a big red flag about do something to stop trouble in the future.

I don't know if video,

I'm just asking dear souls to just embrace yourself,

Like take a little more time with your feeling,

Climate,

With your emotional climate.

Don't be so quick to act.

Take more time to feel.

Yeah,

And be with.

But that is really,

Really important for women and guys.

But,

You know,

Women with the,

Have been so distrust themselves,

You know,

And the emotional side of it.

Distrust themselves,

You know,

And the emotional things aren't honored.

So,

We can negate our soul intelligence,

And you don't want to do that.

And particularly for women,

Your soul intelligence will come through emotion and feeling and intuition.

And sure,

The emotion will be part of ego,

Which is why masters get more dispassionate.

They,

You know,

As you're proceeding the journey,

You get more dispassionate because you're,

If your reactivity dies.

But still,

Emotions,

They get a bad press.

And they're half of our intelligence.

Feminine.

And that's half.

It's like a wing of a bird.

Bird needs two wings.

Heart and head.

Yeah.

Okay,

I'm going to be steering a little bit towards the guys,

This sad saying.

I warned them all.

Keep the heads up.

You know,

In,

First I want to talk about the relationship.

A relationship where the woman is awake,

And the man comes in behind her.

He will love her.

You know,

And I mean,

This is kind of,

I don't know if this is going to trigger you at all,

But I mean it in the best possible way.

He will love her like a little boy loves his mom.

Like,

With that toddler love,

Which is just,

The mom's the goddess.

He'll do everything for her.

He'll do,

Take care of her physical well-being,

Her emotional well-being.

He will just do 100% in devotion to her.

Now that is what it's like when the woman is awake.

When it's more,

The man is more awake.

It's like he will be serving his soul.

And the woman comes in,

In support too.

She loves his soul contribution.

She assists this.

And again,

She'll do it in every way possible.

Yeah.

And as a result of this,

You know,

She grows.

And the same with the guy who's like a toddler in his love for the woman.

He grows too.

And the reason I'm emphasizing that,

Or when you hear me speak,

I've got this kind of feeling around that,

Because when my boys were toddlers,

I got a direct experience of what innocent masculine energy was like.

And it blew my mind.

I was like gobsmacked.

I mean,

It was just so completely different than my experience of male energy.

And it was such a relief.

It was sort of like,

You know,

It was just such a relief.

And I had two boys.

And you know,

Really,

I had two boys because,

You know,

I had trouble with the masculine.

So I needed this experience of these two incredibly adorable,

Devoted,

Loving,

Masculine boys.

They were very masculine.

Like I remember my mom saying that about my boys.

She said,

You know,

You are raising masculine boys,

Which is a single mom.

That's pretty cool.

And I'm like,

They were so adorable in their masculinity.

It's like I didn't want to squish it.

It was like,

It was unbelievably adorable.

Okay.

So I want to steer towards the masculine.

And I,

You know,

I'm thinking,

I was thinking about how to do this.

And I,

It's like,

I don't,

I don't know how to do this without really putting you on the spot,

You know?

It's like,

You know,

I actually think that women often don't understand men don't understand the masculine.

What they do in in our culture,

The usual is they learn how to manipulate the masculine.

I mean,

It's terrible.

But it's like the patriarchal woman will learn to,

To manipulate the masculine for safety.

That's her idea of safety.

But it's not understanding them.

And it's certainly not loving them on a deep level.

And it's not women's fault.

No,

I'm in the patriarchy.

And we just,

You know,

Use whatever trick we can.

It's like,

Really,

You know,

There is no one more ruthless than the victim.

So that's kind of kind of with women.

Like,

It's like,

I was very in love war.

It's like,

Okay,

You could be the boss,

But we're going to manipulate you.

And,

You know,

It comes out of fear.

And they're just trying to be safe.

So I thought we could maybe use this time to get to know the masculine a little more.

Because,

You know,

Even me,

I mean,

In some ways,

What I know about the masculine is,

They really need to be able to go into their cave and work things out without being badgered by a woman going,

How are you feeling?

Can we talk about our feelings?

Or I really want to process this.

And the guy's going,

Oh,

My God,

Just leave me at peace for a while.

Yeah.

I mean,

This is the old battle of the sexes in it.

You know,

If we understood,

If women understood males better,

They'd actually learn to understand us better.

You know,

If you want something,

Give it,

Give it,

And maybe you'll get it back.

And if you give it,

You'll be happier anyway.

So yeah.

So really,

That's kind of what I know about the masculine.

The other thing I know about the masculine is,

And it's a physiological thing,

Is that when a man gets emotionally aroused,

Like upset or anything,

There's a point where physiologically,

Physically,

He,

He turns off the emotional realm,

And he starts doing.

Okay,

Now,

Probably the reason for this is,

If the saber-toothed tiger is attacking,

You know,

You,

You don't want to go into your feelings about this too much.

You want to like snap off your feelings and deal.

Yeah,

But this,

Women,

I feel like really need to understand that,

That the guy has a certain amount of emotion,

And,

And then he'll have to do something.

And it's not a fault thing.

It's just how he's wired.

Yeah,

And women,

I feel like if we knew this more,

We,

We all get along better,

You know,

Just like,

You know,

Guys know that a woman needs to talk without them having to fix something.

I mean,

They have to learn that,

Right?

So we have to learn,

Women have to learn things about the males.

Yeah,

And the other thing is,

And this is,

You know,

A big key to how things are in the old days,

In more simpler times,

You know,

The women would be taking care of the children,

And that would be in the center,

And then they're surrounded by the guys to protect them while they take care of the children.

Okay?

So the men were,

Masculinity was really connected to not just protecting,

But also loving.

It's like the women and the children were in the center.

It's like the heart's in the center.

Okay?

What we've got now is masculinity has been associated now with power and control.

That is separate from the heart,

Just power and control,

Or accumulation of goods.

That's masculinity.

Yeah,

Which is why we've got,

Like,

Everybody paying homage to these billionaires.

Yeah,

And,

You know,

Women and children and old people are somewhere off to the side.

To the side.

Except that now,

The women are leaving the,

Sort of,

The children and old people,

And going to be with the men focused on power and control.

Okay?

This,

You know,

Is not going to play out well.

Okay.

I just wanted to spell this out as an overview,

And it's,

Again,

It's our alienated culture,

And it is totally possible to wake up and be connected to your heart,

And awake,

And live in this culture.

Okay?

It's just a matter of choice.

It's just a matter of choice.

There is nothing outside stopping us.

The only thing stopping us is inside.

It's our ego.

It's our fear.

It's our patterns from other lives.

But the creator is stronger than anything,

And certainly stronger than patterns.

It's just a matter of how patient we are with it,

And whether we keep going or not.

Yeah.

Okay.

I want to,

I feel like I just,

Sort of,

Unloaded a whole bunch of information.

With a little bit of a,

Like,

Staccato energy,

And I just want to come back a little bit.

Come back.

There's no rush to any of this being solved.

It's just our state right now.

It's like a growing pain we're in.

It's not wrong.

It's just a little unhappy.

Yeah.

It's all that's wrong.

It's just a little unhappy for a way to live.

You know,

I'm wanting to introduce you guys to speak.

I just don't know how to do it.

I mean,

If I say to you,

You know,

How does it feel like to be a guy?

Or maybe,

What would you like women to understand better?

Or,

You know,

Your comments about processing things emotionally?

Can one of you just speak up and say something?

Yeah.

It's like,

I might,

Like,

Call on you like a school mom,

You know?

Sebastian,

Have you got a comment?

I'm not even going to try to say your Indian name.

Well,

I think I'm the wrong one to answer this question.

Maybe Trinidad-Chan has more things to say.

Well,

Okay.

We're an old tradition.

So this is what I recently,

Even during the last years,

Even got to know in all the tribes,

There were always the circle of the female,

The circle of the male.

And when there were problems,

Even they always used to have the homosexuals to find solutions because they understood both.

So even I have the pattern to understand the one and the other.

So we need to help the female to express the male for the female.

So in this,

I'm the wrong.

Well,

But we all are kind of have the male and female within us.

So just you see,

You're entitled to your view,

Even if that's the pattern.

How about you as your individual self?

Coming forward with your true energy?

Yeah.

You're so valuable,

Sebastian.

I don't get you.

What do you want?

What do I want?

Well,

I had some questions,

You know,

About what would guys really like women to understand?

Or what's it like when you're processing something?

Or how does it feel to be a male?

I think in general,

It's not that easy to say,

Okay,

This is typical male,

This is typical female.

Not in this physical form.

I started to say,

It's more the portion of the male energy in the person and the portion of female energy in the person.

Because even I know,

Females,

They really go very on this male energy way.

So it's not about this physical experience or appearance.

Right.

And so with this male energy,

It's simply different.

It's more easy.

It's more up to the point.

It's more on the logical way.

The female wants to express and what you already said.

The female wants to talk and talk and talk and talk.

And for the guy,

A few words is enough to figure out,

Okay,

That's the point.

Now we need to find a solution.

Okay.

Not spending so much energy in words.

Where it comes from,

Maybe even we never learned it freely to do it.

I don't know.

Even I don't want to say.

I think it's great.

It's great that it's that way.

Well,

Even sometimes it should be that even the male is expressing more what is really the inner words.

So,

Okay.

Speak about it.

But then it's only one word.

I'm happy.

So the female,

Oh yeah,

It's such a nice day.

And the man is,

Okay.

I ask you how you are.

I don't want to get your whole life in this moment.

So be more up to the point.

So even that's maybe sometimes it's too much for the male that even the other I'm asking,

How are you?

And then yeah,

Yeah,

Yeah,

Yeah,

Yeah.

Instead of a single flower,

It's this whole bundle of flowers.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And just there's something,

One of the things with turning away from your deep energy,

Women will often like even speak more.

So a woman who's in her deeper energy won't speak quite so much.

Usually she'll have her male side.

She'll have both.

I used to like,

I don't do that anymore.

Yeah.

What comes to us right now and to me is maybe even this historical pressing down.

So now it's this lifting up and now I can express.

And this is what the female is doing right now,

Even in this words and getting listened to.

Just an idea.

Sure.

But I'll tell you my personal experience,

I was running from my truth.

So I just,

You know,

I,

A lot of my words were,

That was what was running underneath.

So,

But your points,

Right?

I mean,

That's true to women.

You know,

We're speaking up more.

Yeah.

Look 50 or 100 years back,

What a female had to say in other countries,

Still more than in Germany.

Yeah.

It's true.

Even I have friends from South America,

Even female friends.

And when she came to Germany and then she said,

Well,

Here the revolution of being equal started.

But here the female has less control over the man and less to say than what we have in South America.

We can,

This is what you said,

This manipulating,

We can bring our male to do what we want in the way that he believes that he's doing what he wants.

Right.

And you're thinking,

What?

So,

Yeah.

The thing is,

If a man really loves a woman,

He'll just do what she wants just to,

Because he just wants to.

She won't even have to manipulate.

Yeah.

It's always be who you are.

And the real match to find the real match.

It's like the winning the lottery.

Isn't that true?

Yeah.

To be who you are and find a mate to be who you and both you being.

Yes.

It's a lottery win.

It's this craziness of today's time that we think we can find the right partner around each and every corner.

At first be your own best partner in your life.

Before you can invite someone next to you.

And what I see mostly in our society is,

Oh,

I feel alone and lonely.

So I need a partner to feel less alone.

So,

Okay.

At the beginning,

It works.

But after a short time,

Then the problem starts because it goes deeper than on this physical layer.

And then it's no,

No,

No,

It's too complicated.

I will look for the next.

So it's the problem of not finding the true self.

Yeah.

It's like I'm a talks about two beggars trying to beg from each other,

But both of them are bankrupt.

So yeah,

That's why you do the inner work.

Yeah.

Okay,

Good.

Well,

That hit home.

But do your inner work.

I could feel that getting that.

Right.

And doing your inner work is just clearing away the garbage so you can express your true energy.

Yeah.

Thanks,

Sebastian.

Yeah.

You're welcome.

How much was I expecting this call?

Thank you.

First,

I don't know how long I can talk because I'm currently in the sauna,

And I'm in the quiet room,

But I'm alone here.

So in case I have to get a quick stop,

Someone is coming in,

You know why?

First,

I agree a lot,

Especially with the last point,

What Sebastian said,

The inner work is so crucial.

Because,

You know,

I mean,

The last year,

Since I'm deeper and deeper on the spiritual path,

I really realized how much the relationship is just,

Yeah,

Kind of,

It's just too much there,

Even there is deeper love,

Maybe for the partner,

But it's basically to fill our own void.

So I really agree with that.

It's a very strong part of that.

And also,

The more we do our inner work,

The more healthy the relationship can be.

On top to that,

I don't want to go deeper into that,

Because I think you mentioned that on top to that,

I think nowadays,

You talked a bit about the cliches and the what's happening in society.

I think it's very,

Very challenging nowadays for women as well,

No doubt,

But for men specifically,

Because we have to play so many roles at the moment or fulfill so many needs.

On the one hand,

You know,

We should be the perfect dad,

Emotionally fully available,

Develop and be strong in our feminine qualities.

But on the other hand,

We need to be strong as well in the male energies,

The masculine energies.

If we're not there very often,

It might be very,

Very easy to lose the attention of many women.

Sometimes,

You know,

I made at least the experience in my past,

If you're not an asshole man,

Sometimes you're not interesting anymore,

Right?

You need a really like a very challenging,

Typical,

Strongly masculine man.

So what I'm trying to say,

It's hard to put in words,

I'm not sure if you're getting me,

But nowadays,

It's quite challenging,

Because you have so many needs to be fulfilling as a man in so many directions.

Yeah.

And it's quite challenging.

It puts a lot of pressure on the male side.

And it was maybe a little bit easier when our parents grew up or your age,

Right there when the classical masculine man was fully fine.

Yeah,

Always good.

But nowadays,

I think it changed.

That's maybe a new point I can,

I want to bring in.

I think it's true.

And I think it's like both.

The women are overloaded,

And the guys are overloaded,

Right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like,

I,

You know,

In my experience,

It really helps to bond with,

With your same sex,

And not necessarily have a homosexual or lesbian relationship,

But to have really deep bond with the member of the same sex helps us recover some of our soul,

Really,

And then we become better partners.

You see,

Because,

You know,

Women are,

We're trained up to do this fake feminine,

And I think the guys have had a fake masculine,

And we have to find ourselves and bond more in truth.

So just to,

You know,

There was somebody that was feeling very strongly attracted to a member of her own sex,

Not to have a relationship,

But even the fact she was so attracted,

Scared her.

And I just kind of want to give permission that you can bond deeply with your friends,

You know,

Whether it goes sexual or not,

With the same sex friends.

Yeah.

Very often we are attracted to the energy,

And we get irritated about the physical form.

Even this is something what I want to say.

Because we are attracted to,

It's like magnetism,

We are not seeing it,

But it's an attachment.

And it doesn't have to be with the physical form,

It's about the vibration.

And even the same sex can vibrate in the same way.

So we feel the connection,

We feel bonded.

It doesn't have to be that,

Oh,

No,

No,

I am gay,

Or no,

I am lesbian.

No,

It doesn't have to be like this.

Simply accept who you are,

This connection.

Yeah.

Be,

And this is,

And even I would say in today's time,

This strictness about to be in one sex only is something more modern,

Maybe even Christianized,

That it's only sticking to this.

And even what Trico-Chan,

What he was saying,

It is very difficult,

Even not only for Maya to know,

Okay,

Who should I be?

I should be the guy who's still opening the doors,

Who's going first,

Or going below in the steps.

But in the other hand,

No,

We are equal.

But still the guy has to make the first step in the conversation.

He has to ask me first.

He has to ask if he wants to get married,

But he should be more soft.

So this is very difficult for male,

How he should be in today's time.

But same with the female.

Is the female really living the female life in today's time?

No.

Both still have to find out what is the real origin,

Who they are.

That's it.

Especially in our society,

The female,

When we have,

Well,

Not we,

I don't,

But the period.

So in this time,

The female is meant to rest.

Even this was very interesting for me to figure it out in India and even in other parts.

The female is meant to rest on the days.

And I was talking with a lot of female friends about it,

And they said,

Well,

If the period were on the weekend and I could stay home and lay and rest,

The pain,

The trouble were much less.

But when I had to work and I,

It was so painful.

So this,

Even this society that the female thinks,

Or even have to,

To fit in this working shuttles and all,

Really to work likewise,

Like a man every day,

Even the body is once a month,

It's different.

And still,

No,

I have to do it.

Yeah,

I agree.

In the future,

I hope it's a bigger understanding for each other that even the female get the chance on this days,

Really to take leave days,

Rest.

So it's solving.

And it is not,

And now it's maybe even said,

Oh,

Well,

So we females,

Again,

We are not accepted.

We have to be separated.

No,

It's,

It's not like some origins did out of it.

The female,

When they have their days,

They are dirty,

So they have to be separated.

No,

It is honoring the female part.

Yeah.

Even this,

This process,

Once in a month,

It's a real,

Real cleansing process.

And this is what the female has in advance for the male.

We male,

We are not cleansing.

You female,

You're not cleansing your body physically.

You're even cleansing energetically.

Not only your own body,

You're cleansing even your surrounding.

You know,

And Sebastian,

Women are more at home with the being energy.

And this is what you're saying,

Really,

It's like,

Seems to me the being energy has to be raised up enough that women,

You know,

Might take the time during this period and still feel valued that they're not second grade.

But right now,

We've got doing number one,

You know,

And so all of us,

All of us are getting squished by the machine,

Really,

You know,

The female got broken 50 years ago,

When the time it was not variable anymore for a woman to stay home.

So this was a crash of the ego.

And the job what the female is doing,

If she is working,

If she's raising up the kids and taking care of the husband,

And I saw it at my home,

My father very lazy,

And my mom,

She did everything.

So I always say,

Where's this imbalance?

So still to see what the female is already doing.

So then again,

Working so this,

And this is even what the male has to accept to be even the homework to be together.

But on this physical part,

Again,

This processing,

It's still something very special and unique for the female body.

And this with this ego to say,

Yes,

And this is my time.

It's my me time.

This few days every month is my me time.

Yeah.

Rema,

Can I ask you a question?

We just touched a very,

Very deep topic.

I would love to hear your comments,

Even if you talk so often about it,

About being and doing.

I think especially we men,

But I know also a lot of women,

Right?

I mean,

We're way too much into doing,

Doing,

Doing,

Doing,

Doing,

Rather than being.

And obviously,

This is so strongly connected to the topic,

You touch almost every satsang surrender,

Right?

But especially we men are so strong into doing,

Fixing,

What you discussed also earlier.

Once the emotions are strong,

We go into fixing,

Doing,

Doing,

Right?

Can you talk a little bit more also in connection to the gender?

Yeah,

You know,

You've broken,

You broke my heart in the sense of my heart is just,

I just feel for you guys,

For how you get stuck in the doing,

You know?

I,

I,

Yeah,

Yeah.

And,

You know,

I can even feel it sometimes in the satsangs,

When I'm looking at you,

I can,

Looking at all you guys.

And David,

We haven't talked to you directly.

I'm not sure if you,

If you want to or not,

But I will,

We'll get round to ask you.

I can,

It breaks my heart.

I,

I,

It just breaks my heart.

And,

You know,

Maybe with the satsangs,

You know,

Just with the satsangs that you break through over time,

More and more into more of this being energy.

Okay.

Now,

You know,

You look at Amma's brahmacharis,

You know,

And even they'd been brahmacharis for 10 or 15 years,

This time,

Maybe 10 years.

And still,

You know,

When people were rude to Amma,

Or they,

You know,

Did something,

The brahmacharis would start talking about,

Okay,

Let's go beat them up.

And it's like,

Even Amma's brahmacharis back then were talking that way.

And that is not being energy.

Okay.

So,

You know,

Carl Jung says that,

That men basically are a little bit hostage to women for help getting onto this being energy.

Okay.

I mean,

He's kind of blunt about that saying,

You know,

Men need women for this.

And there's a level that some people say that women cannot move fully into truth without a masculine support physically,

Without a masculine life.

So it's the same for both polarities,

If it's true.

But I'm hoping that with this satsang,

You guys that I can be the woman,

Do you know what I mean?

Or the feminine face of greater energy can flow through.

So gradually,

Over the weeks,

You get more and more peace with your being energy.

Okay,

So being,

You know,

For myself,

I decided that there was no hope for Janet Hobbs,

And no hope for humanity,

Unless we all started loving all of it.

And it was a kind of a neutral,

Gentle,

Soft,

Place inside me.

It was the realm,

More of the soul based personality.

Okay,

So both men and women can get to such a kind of spot inside themselves.

You know,

If you don't do it through trauma,

Like I did it,

You can do it through,

You know,

Hugs,

Or you can do it through watching your ego,

Observing your ego,

Taking you away from your being spot from your truth.

You can observe the chatter in your mind.

Okay,

So this is for us,

I would say those are the ways if you're born in a like a really simple society,

That would just be in the air you breathe,

That it would be of the being.

Okay,

So a being energy in a guy,

Here's an example.

So,

You know,

Just men have got like,

They're meant to,

You know,

Spread their seed.

So,

You know,

Guys will have their head turned by a pretty face.

And,

You know,

If they're married and stuff,

Maybe getting older,

A young pretty face is pretty entrancing.

But if a guy is in being energy,

He will over the years or the couple word over the years and years of having sex together,

They will have built a kind of I want to say love temple,

A kind of depth of trust and love.

And that would be so captivating to a guy in being energy,

That he would never do anything to threaten that or disrupt it,

That that would be more important to him this depth of this communication with this woman than any passing thrill.

Okay,

So that energy is easy in a slower,

Simpler society,

When it's really fast and shallow,

Like ours.

Being energy is,

You know,

It's you,

It takes a lot of energy,

My experience takes a lot of focus.

Yeah,

But I'm just one of feel into something's wanting to come here to help you.

All of you guys are steering this way.

And actually,

I feel the barrier in in all of you,

There's a little bit of a barrier in just valuing yourself more barriers too strong a word.

I know I want to take that back.

It's not barrier.

It's like it's more like yeah,

Deep valuing of yourself,

Of your intrinsic nature,

Intrinsic nature of the truth of you.

Okay,

Well,

I just want to sit with this for a minute,

Because even the most,

You know,

Spiritually sophisticated guys,

They might think they're doing this,

But they're not quite.

Yeah,

What I feel is you guys on some level,

You're all feeling it's dangerous.

Okay,

That's what I'm,

I'm reaching when I going in.

But what I'm talking about,

It's like you're registering is dangerous.

Now,

I get it.

I get it.

But what dangerous what,

Why are we feeling danger of what being our true self?

Yeah,

Your true,

True energy.

And that's where the being would come in.

If you really serving the being energy,

It's like part of you,

You guys,

You feel like it's dangerous.

I mean,

I and yeah.

I mean,

Just just knowing this,

If you just,

You know,

Just suppose you accept this as that that this is coming through this woman who sees really deeply and go,

Okay,

I didn't,

You know,

I didn't know that was there,

But I'm willing for that to be cleared at the pace that I can handle.

Right?

You see,

It means annihilation of the ego trilogy.

And that's the trouble coming into the being energy.

It's like annihilation of everything we think we are.

For women,

You give birth,

And then you have a toddler and you just go into this,

Or,

You know,

You give birth,

I'll tell you,

That bond with the baby,

In the very early weeks,

Months is the closest thing to silence.

You know that when the spiritual teachers talk about silence,

It is it is kind of like that,

But it doesn't have another person in there like a baby.

But it's that feeling of being totally bonded to life and bonded to this baby and hearing all kinds of information.

And subtle messages,

You so you know how your baby's feeling if even if the mother is the child is with a babysitter,

And the mother is going out doing errands,

A really sentient mother will know exactly if the baby's upset or,

Or not,

They'll get the data.

This is what silence feels like when Amitak is coming into silence,

It is kind of a little bit of a snapshot of it.

Okay,

So for guys to come into this,

It's like a kind of a full surrender to the soul because it's,

It's the opposite polarity,

It's in your unconscious,

This aspect of you that would help you move into that being energy,

It's in your unconscious.

That's why Jung says it really helps to have some female to help you access this.

But you're not obviously fully dependent on that,

You know,

It's just some people do it,

Some people do it,

No matter what.

The being energy.

You know,

Trilichan,

There's a level that your whole life in a way is being influenced by this being energy.

It shows in the way that you live your life,

You know,

Even that you,

Yeah,

That you're wanting to get through these emotional obstacles.

It's,

It's in there,

And it's,

And same with you,

Sebastian,

It's in there,

And it's,

It's,

And David,

It's in there,

And it's percolating up through,

Up through,

Up through,

Think of it like,

Yeah,

It's like this love permeating through.

As your ego gets more and more porous,

This love coming from at the being level will percolate up more and more and will influence you.

Yeah,

Really,

You guys are not big doers in the traditional sense,

You know,

You're way more into being.

Yeah,

So just keep going.

And the sad sayings help,

You know,

Lift veils.

I mean,

You know,

And I told you when I started this,

I got like three years,

If you guys come for three years,

You will be gobsmacked by the changes that occur.

And it might seem like a long time,

But it's not.

Our,

Our,

Our human selves takes time,

You know.

David,

I'm zoning into you,

Man.

I don't even know if you're there,

You know,

Whether you put the phone on,

Whether you're there,

Or whether you just put the phone on to like,

You know,

So premissive,

I don't think you're listening.

I'm teasing you.

I just haven't seen your face.

Have you got anything to come forward with?

David,

I think you're just gonna stay silent.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well,

It's,

It's,

It's okay to be an observer to blessings.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Chirlatan,

I don't know if that helped.

If you think of it like something cooking it really deeply in you.

And it's the scent of this wonderful dinner coming up through all the levels of your ego and that you'll get there eventually.

You know,

Enjoy it,

You guys,

Because I'm like,

I mean,

You just,

You know,

You get older and some of the stuff like,

Man,

My battles are kind of,

I mean,

Old ego battles are over.

But you know,

I'm also older.

You know,

So enjoy your youth.

You know,

Enjoy it.

Enjoy everything.

Yeah.

You know,

It's nice to have a young body to enjoy it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're entitled.

And even if you're not fully cooked,

You're entitled to enjoy every moment of your life,

You know.

And even if you're feeling like a little bit like you,

You know,

You trapped or,

You know,

Getting just having real trouble.

It's like,

You know,

It's just a part of it.

It's just a part of the mountain where it's like,

Looks like a rock face and the fogs coming in.

And it's icy rain.

And there you are.

And it's terrible.

But like two,

Two,

Two hours later,

You've climbed up and you're in this beautiful,

You know,

Field of wildflowers and the storms underneath you.

Yeah,

Please.

That happens over and over and over again.

And don't underestimate the power of the satsang.

So just truly,

Truly,

Please don't underestimate it.

Yeah.

Keep an eye open for the changes that you occur and share the satsang.

But this is extremely powerful love river to be tapping into every week.

And I work with you guys during the week.

So yeah,

It's no ceilings on how high you can go.

And especially,

You know,

Now we're 24 2024 2526,

There is going to be big cracking of the old energy,

You know,

And for the people that are moving into truth,

You will just be enhanced by the universe.

Okay,

Think this way.

Like,

You might be gobsmacked by what you can achieve or what is done for you really,

Because you're willing over the next couple of years.

Yeah.

Because you know,

Our soul is just so grateful to have a body that's willing to embody it to understand.

I mean,

The soul waits lifetimes of bodies of all your reincarnation of the personalities that you were for,

For one personality to come forward,

Who's willing to let it in and walk around feeling like,

What the hell's going on?

You know,

And to feel like you're walking to a different drum and everything,

But soul is just ecstatic.

And we'll do everything for you to make it as easy as possible.

Yeah,

I'll tell you.

And it's just it's harder at the beginning for those of you who like the first three years or so.

Four years sometimes can be you know,

There's not much result for the effort.

But it seems like it but you're working really underground with your unconscious.

So there's a lot of movement,

But it's just hidden from you.

And that's even some of you want to remember your dreams more.

But if you're not remembering them,

I'll tell you,

It's because the your unconscious your your being doesn't want you to muck.

It doesn't want you to get in there and try to fix some dream or judge it as bad.

It just wants you to like go away while your being takes you through this process.

Right?

Because I'll tell you,

We muck a lot with it.

We judge ourselves bad or good.

And we get in there and we try to fix and it's like our beings going,

Oh,

My God.

Come in,

Sit down,

Shut up and let me do it.

You know,

Alma says,

We're in a train.

And the trains taking us to the creator and we're sitting there with our suitcase on top of our head because we think that we have to carry it,

You know,

And it's like,

Just take it down and let the train carry it.

You're you set in motion your journey.

Really,

What you're going to do is you're going to observe,

You're going to observe yourself coming into self realization basically.

Yeah,

This life or next just depends.

It depends really what your being wants.

Yeah,

It's so much bigger you guys.

Really,

The thing that we get caught in is we judge ourselves good or bad.

And then we try to fix.

You know,

I'm sure that's the reason for the myth of Sisyphus,

Where the guy's rolling a rock up the top of the hill and right at the top,

He's almost there and blops and it rolls all the way down.

So he gets going all the way up and it goes and that is a very good picture of is a sea,

India,

Who lives that out,

Who does that.

And I can't remember what they're called,

Maybe Sebastian or Trilla Chan,

You know,

It's the person who doesn't teach and they look like they're crazy,

But they're helping humanity.

So they'll do something like that.

They'll spend their life doing some thing like that,

That somehow helps humanity.

You know,

There's a story of Amma being on a bus,

And she stopped the bus,

She got out.

And this person emerged from the bushes,

This crazy looking person emerged from bushes.

And the two of them were gesticulating and speaking kind of gibberish to each other.

And then Amma got into the bus.

And this was this person.

And this is it was a fully enlightened person who was living this way.

And they're never teachers.

They always look a little mad.

And they express,

They express it in however they express it.

You see,

This is how big the spiritual journey is.

And we try to make it into like a set of rules.

And it's like,

Do this,

This is good.

This is good.

This is good.

And this is bad.

And it's bad.

And it's wilder than that.

And I used to feel like,

So close to one of those crazy enlightened persons in a way.

That's kind of where I let myself be kind of crazy in a way.

And that's kind of why I can come in and be some kind of teacher now.

Because I let myself do that.

Yeah.

Right.

Even if it didn't make sense,

If I got that I needed to do something,

I would do it.

It's like I talked to you about last time,

My car stopped right in front of the Fundamentalist Church for like those three weeks.

I talked to the Fundamentalist God.

And really the lesson that my being wanted me to see was that unconditional love could come through a Fundamentalist preacher,

That it was possible.

It was possible that even the Fundamentalist stuff didn't stop it.

And that was my lesson.

It was key.

Yeah,

Love yourselves wildly.

I do.

Okay.

I love you guys wildly.

Absolutely wildly.

And you know,

I can like do something like I take a scalpel to your egos,

But that's just part of this wild loving.

Absolutely wild.

Yeah.

Right.

And look,

Amma's wild loving.

I mean,

Like a million,

A million watt fire,

That woman.

Absolutely wildly loving.

Right.

And that will help you into the being energy.

And also,

Don't talk to other people.

Don't look for permission.

From Masuda,

You're just muted.

Yeah,

Yeah.

So we can see that this is a trigger point of the group because the computer keeps Yeah,

It will be the cells of your bodies,

You guys.

It'll be like the cells of our body carry an alienation and we put limits to the amount of love that we're allowed.

And then this kind of training helps the body drop those not allowed things.

But really,

It would,

It would cause the computer to do this.

This happened over and over.

It's sort of like I talked about where the the alarm emergency vehicle will go by just when I'm really working really deeply with person,

There'll be the siren going,

Not loud,

Not loud.

And again,

This is the,

You know,

Looking at life as a metaphor to metaphor,

It's always showing us.

So I would say that there's been a shift into this,

Allowing this deeper love in that will gradually become clear to you.

Until you get more beautiful.

You let the love in,

You'll get more beautiful.

Yeah,

You become like,

Like attractive,

Like a flower,

You know,

No matter what your features are like.

Yeah.

True.

But I would go through periods where I looked like 10 years older,

I might go through like three weeks or a month,

Or suddenly I look 10 years older.

And I'm I feel really weird.

And then over a few weeks,

All that would disappear.

And I'd have renewed vitality.

If you look at Ama,

She goes through incredible things.

Like sometimes when she walks,

I can see that it's like almost in a domestic way.

It's as if,

You know,

The energy she's clearing for the world is the Thomas is high,

The dullness and ignorance is high.

And it will even show in her gate.

And then there are other days where it's a different gate and a different energy.

But she she is brought up and down with this.

In my experience,

This is what I've seen,

You know,

And it's we can go through this.

You just allow just allow this is this wildly loving just allow don't go Oh,

I'm doing something wrong.

It's a big clearing.

Mm hmm.

Yeah.

Oh,

You guys,

I can feel your souls are just famished.

Hungry,

Hungry hearts.

It's as if the you're going to become more aware of how much you want love need love want to allow this love in.

Yeah,

Famished.

Okay,

And I'm speaking it to help it clear.

So that you allow this love in and it will help you come more from a being energy.

Right,

That you're allowed that your soul energy is allowed here on earth.

And you to you to can allow this in gradually,

At a pace you can handle at the best pace.

That's it.

I'm seeing these golden famished.

They're so hungry for soul food,

Basically.

Yeah,

And you guys,

We do live in an alienated society.

Like it's really,

You know,

At an extreme of alienation.

We it's why we've had such big world wars,

You guys.

I mean,

We were so close to it,

We don't see it.

But it's why we're just so self destructive with these huge explosions of hate and everything.

But we're in it.

So it's our normal.

Right,

But individually,

You can live in the age of truth,

You know.

Even though we're in the age of,

You know,

Despair and everything.

As you catch this wave of this golden love,

And it comes in,

You allow it into your body,

Even if it upsets your ego a bit.

But you're patient and devoted to truth,

And you just gradually allow it in,

You start flowing in this wave of truth.

And different things happen to you.

It's what they're talking about with this jump in the dimensions,

You know,

The fifth dimension,

It's just,

Basically,

It's just letting your soul in.

And if you start berating yourself for,

You know,

Being disrespectful to yourself,

Please just catch it,

And give it over to Amma or,

You know,

If you don't know Amma,

The creator,

Please,

Please don't do that.

You guys,

You just deserve all the love in the world.

I mean,

This whole world is love,

You know,

It's just that we're deluded.

There's a point that you will really get it,

And the penny will drop.

Your soul,

Your cells of your body are made out of love.

And over top of that,

There is alienation superimposed through your,

All your lives and everything.

But the truth of you is this love.

Yeah.

The truth of you is your soul.

And when you're letting the energy of your soul come in,

When you're letting that be strengthened in your cells,

Your ego goes berserk,

Your ego goes,

No,

No,

No,

No.

But it's just the ego.

It's like a dictator,

You know.

They don't last long,

Dictators,

Really.

It can seem like they last long,

But they get overthrown,

You know,

Because it's just baloney.

That's it.

May you feel more and more love through these sad sayings.

And through all your devotion with Amma,

Your devotion to the creator,

May all your practices,

May you feel more and more love coming in.

May you get more and more intent on steering towards true reality.

Yeah.

And you get,

You know,

The older you get,

You get more like,

Oh,

This stuff again,

This crap again.

Oh,

Well,

I'll just keep going.

When you're younger,

And it comes up,

It can be shocking when you first get the ego trying to dislodge your path,

It comes up like a tidal wave sometimes.

But it's just ego.

It's just scared of dying.

But it will make you feel like you're scared of dying.

But it's just your ego.

Because your soul knows you never die.

So,

Meh.

Is there any questions or anything?

And I know everybody can't maybe stay the whole time.

So if you can't,

I mean,

Whatever you can do,

But if anybody wants to ask questions,

Please.

I could,

Primasutra,

But I spoke a lot.

So I wait until someone has a question.

Otherwise,

I would.

Well,

That's good.

That's so sweet.

But you go and we'll just stay longer to give other people a chance.

Yeah,

You go.

No,

No.

Was that you,

Sebastian?

No,

I said I would have a question.

Yeah,

So go for it.

No,

Is someone else there first?

And if no,

I can ask.

Okay,

Is there anybody else there?

Sebastian,

Were you saying you wanted to?

No,

No.

Trilichan,

We're all waiting.

Okay.

When you shared the example,

We're all on this train of growth or on our spiritual journey,

You know,

And we're carrying the suitcase on our head,

The example what Amma always gives,

Just bring it down and take it easy,

Relax,

All this.

You know,

When you say these things,

My mind shatters.

Hey,

Come on.

You have to grow to be able to grow.

You have to do your daily sadhana.

You have to have your discipline.

You have to do a certain amount of seva,

You know,

To clean myself,

To get rid of my negativities.

That's what my mind is shattering.

Hey,

It's not that easy.

Theoretically,

I know I'm on this train and I will grow.

And I know I have to allow just the love somehow in.

It sounds so easy.

But still,

My mind shatters all these things.

No,

Without daily sadhana,

It's not working without a certain amount of seva.

What do you say to that?

I say you listen to your mind way too much,

Just step back and observe your mind with this.

Observe the fuss about how much it wants to keep the doing.

You know,

I was not a great meditator for a long time.

But I really wanted this.

Okay,

I wanted this more than anything.

But I had a burn about religious practices because I had been a fundamentalist and had missed the heart.

So I had this revulsion around spiritual practices.

So I got here through yearning.

Do you understand?

I mean,

It brought me to spiritual practices.

Finally,

But I'll tell you the yearning.

I know so many people in the ashram,

Man.

They do all the right things.

And when I talk to them,

I'm like,

Oh my goodness.

Yeah.

It's like the ticking of the boxes is not.

Yeah.

But I'm not saying be lazy or not that they're not important.

Do you know?

It's they are important.

But Trilla Ch'en,

The most important thing is that you realize that the point of these spiritual practices are to give you space to feel and to space to feel into your soul.

But that's the point.

It's not just like ticking boxes.

It's not just to like do the action and like,

Oh,

I'm a good person.

It's to really take a hundred percent of yourself into these practices and take your full yearning for your true self into these practices.

And you have permission to do that.

Okay.

I'm just getting this.

You have permission to do that more now.

It's the bad and good thing of the duality.

I'm good.

If I do these spiritual practices,

I'm bad if I don't do it.

And that's where the religious journey has got stuck so often.

And it's beyond bad or good.

It's like how much you want it,

How kind you are to the people that you are in passing the street,

How often you might think just,

You know,

I have the best wishes for all of humanity.

Yeah.

Yeah,

It's funny.

Trluton,

I feel like you're going to move house in a way.

You're going to start moving into a more devoted way of being.

You're not,

You haven't started moving yet,

But you're contemplating moving and you will.

You're going to move into this more devoted way.

And it's actually,

You're going to move from being unconscious into being conscious.

I can see it.

You're going to do it.

And you would think you're conscious now,

But you're not.

Okay.

You guys,

There's so many people I talk to and they think they're conscious and they're not.

I know it's very,

Very humbling.

This journey is terrible,

But it's a big relief to get down to the truth.

And when you see that maybe you're not conscious,

Then you become conscious.

You go,

Okay.

Right.

Right.

Right.

And Trluton,

Hats off to your openness and humility.

Yeah.

I said to you,

You know,

I felt that you're going to become quite a different person in your fifties.

And it's part of this that I'm talking about.

It's part of this move.

And your comprehension is going to go way up.

Happy.

Okay.

All of you guys,

You can take that for yourselves too.

Your comprehension is going to go way up.

It will.

It really will.

Yeah.

If you can stand coming to these.

And the other thing,

This one more thing,

It is what is going on inside us that has the most power.

Okay.

So when I went up,

There was one time that I went up to,

You know,

Receive lunch from Amma,

You know,

The Tuesdays.

So I had made a shift into truth.

Okay.

So as all the dinners are being,

All the people who've known there,

No,

It's just frantic and everything.

And there's everybody in a big scramble.

So there was pushing out the meals and everything.

And I was standing there and then there was a guy standing next to me and he reached to get the dinner.

I mean,

I wasn't really reaching for it,

But it was like right in front of me and he reached for it.

And Amma came in and blocked him and wouldn't allow him to take the food and gave it to me.

And it was like,

It was my inner shift that caused Amma to act in this way.

Do you see it?

Our point of power is inside us.

And when we really make deep changes,

The outside world will change,

Of course.

And you deserve this.

You're entitled to this.

This is your birthright.

And a lot of my work is helping people to surrender enough to get down to that point of power,

Where things happen.

And again,

It was like a metaphor.

The way of the woman,

The feminine way,

It was going to be taken care of.

I could live this way.

But you will get data from,

That you're on the right track.

So pay attention to the data because it's very hard to,

Otherwise we just get theoretical and we get caught in bad and good.

So stick to the data.

Stick,

Look at the metaphor of what happens to let you know if you're on the right track or not.

You're very beautiful.

And I just want to give special hats off to Trilla Chan for your humility with how you took what I said.

I'm like,

Oh my God,

Fantastic.

Like,

It's going to change overnight now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And Sebastian,

Thank you for talking and expressing.

You know,

It helped.

It really helped.

Helped the light get bigger.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you guys,

Is it,

I mean,

It's 10.

I mean,

I can keep going,

But you guys maybe have things you have to do,

But.

Can I say that?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'd like to say something,

Because this was very clarifying for me.

I had some,

With my husband,

He's accused me of never doing anything.

And I feel a lot of the way I'm raising our son is through a being.

And so this is very clarifying for me,

For the perspective that he's coming from,

That he's seeing my beingness and not really understanding and kind of wanting,

You know,

A doingness from me.

I mean,

It's not like I don't do anything.

I do dishes.

I do laundry.

I do.

But he's kind of even getting upset about my beingness.

You know,

You just sit there and watch Amma.

So,

You know,

This is very valuable,

But he's not seeing that the doing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're not really surprised that he wouldn't see it.

Really?

Yeah.

It was no,

But it's disheartening because I'd like,

I'd like to be seen for what I am doing in my beingness.

Yes.

But this sounds very clarifying in that,

In that respect to understand the dynamic of what's going on there.

Good,

Good,

Good,

Good,

Good.

I'll tell you,

My dad used to give me a really bad time.

He'd go,

Janet,

You've only worked formally for three years.

And I went,

Yeah,

What's wrong with that?

I mean,

I earn money doing this work.

I also haven't worked formally for very many years.

I spend a lot of time and very lucky to be able to do that in life,

A lot of time on the inner me.

And it is so valuable when I look at other people,

Like especially other people my age,

Where they are with themselves.

And I am so thankful that I have a lifetime where I didn't have to go earn money in order to,

To,

To survive that I could,

You know,

I chose a life,

You know,

As much as we have free will to not go the career route or life kind of led me in a different way.

And I spent a lot of time getting to be with me,

To get to know me,

To get to focus on,

You know,

The inner.

And it's good.

I mean,

It's always with women,

You know,

We can get we the yin,

And it's like,

It's yin and yang.

So when we pull in yin,

We have to also allow some yang.

Do you know,

It's like,

Sometimes,

Like,

I'm right behind you,

Bhavani.

I mean,

I,

I think it's wonderful.

It's turning to do the inner journey is,

Is a radical,

It's a radical thing to do in our culture.

And it's,

It can be difficult.

There's a,

There's a neurologist I love who self realized,

And he said,

Well,

The trouble with not turning up for a job is it's easy to feel bad about yourself.

Right?

And I know that too.

But I couldn't do a formal job.

I just couldn't.

So I,

You go,

I keep getting,

You know,

Had so many jobs,

I put more effort into probably looking for jobs,

Then actually doing jobs,

And I'll get a job.

And for some reason,

It won't work out.

You know,

And even if I think,

Okay,

I'm just gonna,

I'm just gonna get through it.

Yeah,

I'll get fired.

Or I realize I can't keep doing this.

This is not in align with anything.

Well,

There you go.

At some point,

You know,

Like something will spring as you keep going,

Something will spring from your beingness,

That will allow you to,

To go into the world again.

Finally,

Do you understand?

Yes,

I'm already feeling the inner cooking of these things.

Yeah,

I know that I'm going to be doing that.

And I've known this for many years.

I just didn't know how many years that yeah,

No,

Yeah,

Sweetie.

And I'm right with you.

I mean,

It takes a long time.

And I spent years doing what you're doing.

Yeah.

So yeah,

Good.

I'm glad it helped.

Yeah.

It's very taboo to do the inward journey.

Yeah.

But I have such a strong inner drive.

I cannot do it any other way.

Yeah.

People have said like,

I'm a life artist.

And I just feel like I'm just me.

I cannot not do this.

Yeah,

I was the same.

They can they can suppress them just kind of,

You know,

Like you say,

They're on it.

I can't.

And I won't.

I don't want.

I'm with you.

I get it.

I'm sure there are lots of people here.

There's several people here who know what you're talking about.

Yeah,

Totally.

Yeah.

Well,

Good.

Good.

Yeah.

Good.

Okay.

Good.

Thank you for all the people who spoke up.

Thank you for your presence.

I love you so much,

You guys.

Blessings.

Yeah,

Big blast of love.

Yeah.

Big blast of love.

Yeah.

Yeah.