Music That Can Heal The World With Mark Romero

Mark is a sound therapist, but no ordinary one. Mark found out his music has the power to heal, transform and empower people's lives. He educates people on the science of energy related to our functioning. Simply said, he helps people create a positive difference in their lives through his guitar play and voice. Music helps people deal with loss, grief, anger, pain and much more. It helps people achieve a better and deeper sleep and can change someone's state of mind from negative to positive.

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In this episode of the Project Mindfulness Podcast,

We talk about music as a way of empowering,

Restoring balance,

And bringing harmony in your life.

Honest and open to all religions,

All traditions,

All ages,

And all levels of experience.

Radically accessible,

Pragmatic,

And eye-opening.

Simply for everyone.

Welcome to the Project Mindfulness Podcast.

We'll take you on a journey across the globe and talk with other meditators about their practice,

The lessons they have learned,

And what they want the world to know.

Good day and welcome to Season 2 of the Project Mindfulness Podcast.

This is episode number 3 of Season 2,

And I'm Christian Neidtsohn,

Your host.

Thank you for joining us.

In this episode,

I have a talk with Mark Romero.

Mark is a sound therapist,

But not an ordinary one.

Mark found out his music has the power to heal,

Transform,

And empower people's lives.

He educates people on the signs of energy related to our functioning.

Simply said,

He helps people create a positive difference in their lives through his guitar play and voice.

Music can help people achieve a better sleep and deeper sleep,

And can change someone's state of mind from negative to positive.

We also talk about music in a way of transporting energy as a vessel,

Where intention carries through frequencies and melodies,

And impacts our daily lives.

What are you really listening to?

Mark plays a small piece of his music live for us,

So make sure to listen all the way to the end.

So joining me today on the podcast is Mark Romero,

And Mark educates people worldwide on the signs of energy and its relation to human functioning,

Using music as a way to empower us.

So welcome to the podcast,

Mark.

Happy to have you here.

Thank you so much for having me.

I'm excited to be here.

Yeah,

Starting the journey in your own life.

How and when did you stumble on meditation and mindfulness?

You know,

It's interesting.

I used to get,

I used to get really harassed by my coworkers and people and old business partners,

Because it's something that's always kind of been there for me.

There's always been this part,

Even through my whole,

You know,

19 year career in the high tech industry,

There was this aspect that I really started to want to go within.

And I think it was really kind of inspired by a book that was given to me by a friend many years ago called Illusions by Richard Bach.

And in that book,

It talked about the power of imagination and how to tune within to start creating,

You know,

What it is that you wanted to manifest in your experience.

And I was kind of intrigued by that.

So that was really a big catalyst for me to start looking at this aspect of going within.

And then,

Of course,

As I kind of fed this passion,

I started getting introduced to things like meditation,

Creative visualization,

All these things in working in this internal world and having a passion and a deep desire to kind of like figure out this thing called life.

You know,

How do we play the game of life?

What's it all about?

How do we access our power?

How do we,

You know,

Quiet the craziness of our own minds?

And,

Of course,

In that research,

In that study,

I got introduced to meditation.

But it really kind of all started with that with that little book.

And this is going back to the early 80s.

You know,

That really challenged me to start looking within.

And it was from that particular experience that meditation and all kinds of different things began to open up for me.

Yeah.

And so from that,

You at a certain point really connected it with with sound and music.

Like,

Did you play music back then already when you read that book and you're still working in this high tech industry?

Well,

You know,

It's funny because I I was mesmerized as a kid.

I went to go see Pink Floyd in concert.

I'm like,

Oh,

My gosh,

I got to get a guitar.

And,

You know,

I started harassing my dad,

You know,

Way back in high school.

Dad,

You got to give me a guitar.

Dad,

You got to give me a guitar.

You know,

Hi,

Son.

How are you doing?

You know what,

Dad?

You got to give me a guitar.

Finally,

You know,

He got me a guitar and I just picked it up and started playing it.

But it was never,

You know,

I didn't have this like,

You know,

Dying dream to like become a rock star or something like that.

I just wanted to play.

And throughout that whole career and everything,

It was my it was my stress reliever.

It was my solace.

And an interesting thing in talking about meditation and stuff,

When I play music,

My mind goes silent.

And it's a magical experience,

You know,

Going into that.

So I really kind of used it as my own my own way to,

You know,

To cope and deal with the twists and turns of the human experience.

So it was something that even throughout my career,

I had a roommate that played bass,

We played music,

We would jam hours upon hours on end.

I'd get up early in the morning and play before going to work.

I'd come home in the afternoon,

Play some more.

And it was just something that was a passion,

But never really this desire to get out and,

You know,

Play or do public performances or anything like that.

In fact,

I was kind of a shy kid when it came to music.

I could speak in front of a thousand people and feel like a fish in water.

But put a guitar in my hand and two people in the war in the room.

And I became the shy kid.

So I used to have the best concerts in the safety of my bedroom at home.

Right.

And starting your journey in spirituality and meditation and getting more and more involved in these inner workings.

What was the moment that connected with your guitar playing or was it always there?

But but did it open up?

Where did it open up at a certain point to play in front of other people?

Well,

I was,

You know,

Of course,

It was interesting because I came out with an album in the early 2000s.

And it was something I wanted to have the experience of going into the studio and making an album.

And my neighbor was a professional drummer.

And finally,

He got on my case one day and he said,

You know,

Dude,

Come on,

You've been talking about making this album for a year.

Let's just do it.

I'll help.

I'll play drums on it.

I'll produce the album.

I've got a buddy who give us a bro deal on on studio time.

Let's make the album.

So we went in and made the album.

Like I said,

Not even with the intention of selling CDs or anything,

I just wanted to have the experience.

So I produced the album and came out the CD and and that CD ended up getting in the hands of a guy from NASA who discovered frequencies in my music that actually put listeners into a higher state of consciousness and actually helped the body to heal and harmonize the energetic fields that make up the human being.

And so it was out of that kind of that discovery that it really became this connection between the two.

At that particular point in time,

I was already practicing meditation.

I was already doing inward processes,

Visualizing different things like that.

But that out of that discovery really became the catalyst for how can I merge the two together and how can I start utilizing my own meditative experience while playing,

You know,

To plant the seeds for what I wanted to manifest in my experience,

To really get connected,

You know,

To that space between the thoughts,

You know,

Where we tap into our true essence.

And that it was really out of that whole experience and getting connected and learning about quantum physics and consciousness that really opened up and really drove the connection between the two.

But my constant fueling that desire to go within even deeper and then how I could help other people get into that space also to transform their lives.

And so the person who was involved with NASA,

He heard your music and then he heard something that could.

.

.

What exactly is it?

Like,

What is it in the music you play and in maybe some music that is made that has such a genuine effect on our mind?

Well,

It's interesting because Dr.

Jones,

He was the gentleman from that former top consultant from NASA,

And he was involved in a study of how we can rise people above energy disruptors in our environment.

You know,

They were very concerned about,

You know,

Cell phone signals,

EMS,

Wi-Fi,

Smart meters,

4G,

3G,

5G.

Now,

Of course,

Coming out all these different things that were disrupting the body's energetic fields,

Causing stress,

Causing mental disharmony,

All these different things.

And in the course of their study,

Somebody had given him a recording of Paramahansa Yogananda chanting.

It was an Indian monk from the early 1900s who came to the United States trying to bridge this gap between Hinduism and Christianity and,

You know,

Really supporting people and going within.

And when this man chanted and people listened to him,

There was a shift in brainwave activity,

A shift kind of that they had identified with athletes in the peak performance zone,

People in the zone.

And so Doc was kind of a comedian guy.

He said,

You know,

I love Paramahansa like the next guy,

But nobody's going to listen to this guy chant,

You know,

From these early recordings and stuff.

Let's go see if we can find music that will do the same thing.

So they went out and started testing thousands of music CDs,

Mozart music,

Different things,

And they were looking for a certain response that would take place in the physical aspect,

But also in the mental aspect and in brainwave activity.

So right around that time while he's out searching,

I'm playing music for a wellness studio local in town.

And after I'm done playing for their open house,

A woman comes up to me.

She goes,

Oh my God,

I hear these tones in your music.

And I'm looking at her like,

Oh my God,

This lady's going to get weird,

Man.

I can tell.

And then she gets right up in my face and she goes,

And nobody can hear the tones but me.

And I'm like kind of going,

Oh,

I knew it.

She goes,

Let me get a CD.

I know these scientists.

So I'm like giving her a CD.

Maybe she'll go away.

Maybe she won't bother me anymore.

And then I didn't think anything more of it.

Well,

A few weeks later,

I get a call from Dr.

Jones and he said,

Man,

He goes,

We're like so excited that we've been introduced to your music.

We want you to come to this lecture and bring your guitar.

And I'm like,

OK,

You know,

I'm thinking I'm going to show up there and play during donut time or something.

I had no idea what I was going to go step into.

But really what it was was introduction to quantum physics and energy 101.

And I was absolutely mesmerized by what I was witnessing.

And then what really took it to a whole nother level was they were demonstrating up on stage how things we use every day,

Like furniture polish or laptop computers or a cell phone actually compromise our energy and put us into a weakened state.

And but what really got interesting was when they said halfway through the program,

Mark,

Come up,

Bring your guitar.

We want you to start playing.

And I start playing and I see people's physiology,

Their physical energy shift instantly in front of my eyes.

I mean,

I was like,

What the heck is this?

Blown away.

Quite honestly,

I didn't even really know how to compute it within my own mind,

Because up until that particular point in time,

I'd never thought of myself as being anything more than flesh and blood and what I experienced through my senses and what I saw in the mirror.

And that evening,

I realized,

Oh,

No,

There's so much more to who and what we are.

What we see through our senses is just the tip of the iceberg of who we really are.

And so that's when I was like kind of going,

Oh,

My gosh.

And then a few weeks after that,

Doc called me up and he said,

Listen,

We've discovered frequencies in your music that actually tune and harmonize listeners energy fields.

And I said,

Well,

What does that mean,

Doc?

He said,

Well,

When your music plays,

It actually puts people in a state of harmony.

When they're in a state of harmony,

They have an increase in their strength,

Their flexibility,

Their endurance or coordination and balance.

We improve their memory,

Their focus,

Their creativity,

Their intuition,

They're actually able to quiet the mind and rise above the static and noise of everything that we're being exposed to in our environment.

And I said,

I still understand what that means.

He said,

Well,

What it means,

We want to buy a thousand CDs from you and start selling them.

I said,

Well,

OK,

Now that I can relate to,

I'm not so much sure about the other stuff.

But that was when I really started learning about,

You know,

Energy and consciousness and quantum physics and how my music could actually restore harmony within people's lives and help them really kind of in essence,

Play more beautiful music through their life expression.

That's super interesting.

And I wonder when you play,

Is there something going on?

Like you talked about,

Like if I can call it so,

A state of flow that you get into when you play music.

I can really relate to that.

You get into a certain,

It's almost a trance like state of playing or doing where everything naturally follows each other and there's no real,

Yeah,

Like disconnection or disharmony,

So to say.

But when you start playing or when you play something,

What is going on inside you?

Do you have a certain intention that you set,

For instance,

Like this is a song that's going to be for healing or this is a song for,

You know,

Anxiety or depression?

Or is it something that you just let it happen?

Well,

Initially,

Way back when with that first album,

There was no intentions that were in that album.

The only intention was to go into the studio,

Have fun and make music.

And so,

And then they got obviously this discovery.

But then as later as I progressed on my own journey,

My own evolution and kind of peeling back the layers of my gift,

One day I was in the office with Dr.

Jones and he said,

Mark,

What's the most powerful energy disruptor in the whole universe?

And,

You know,

I didn't know.

I figured it's got to be something like radiation or something like that.

And he said,

No,

He goes,

Would you believe the most powerful energy disruptor in the universe are our own limiting thoughts,

Beliefs and perceptions,

The stories of lack,

Limitation,

Not good enough,

I'm anything but divine,

All these belief structures that we've imprinted into the operating system software of our minds.

And out of that discussion,

I mean,

I was intrigued by the answer.

And I'm like,

Kind of go,

Well,

Heck,

If this music can eliminate energy disruptors in the environment,

Maybe it can also eliminate energy disruptors within our own minds.

And so out of that particular discussion,

I got this idea,

You know,

I'm going to start composing pieces of music with different intentions behind them to help people create shifts.

And what further kind of embodied this idea was one day I was watching a video about an upcoming sound healing conference.

And one of the scientists guy says that music is the carrier wave for intention.

And I thought,

Oh,

Okay,

I can put frequency I can put intention into music and then have people play that music in their environment and have it create that vibrational shift within themselves if they were truly willing to change.

And so I started experimenting in my coaching sessions.

I've been doing coaching sessions and stuff for years and I had a young lady who came to me with a very common issue,

You know,

10 years.

Creating all the wrong kind of relationships,

Excuse me,

And you know,

I realized that she was holding on to a lot of resentment ended up that she really held a lot of resentment against her father.

And I said,

Listen,

Are you open to forgiving your father?

She said,

You know what I am.

I said,

I'm going to play a piece of music with the intention of forgiveness.

And so outcomes this piece of music.

I'd never played it before.

It was almost like the guitar played me.

And I recorded it in the studio and I sent it to her.

I said,

Here,

Play this in your environment.

Let's see what happens.

And she calls me up two days later.

She's going,

Mark,

Oh my God,

You're not going to believe this.

My dad called me today out of the blue and say,

You know what?

10 years way too long to have unresolved issues.

You open to sitting down and talking about reconciliation and forgiveness.

She's you understand my dad's like macho man guy.

He would never do anything like that.

I say,

You know what?

The biggest lesson that we all need to learn is that the outer world is a reflection of the inner world.

I said,

You set the intention to forgive.

And you started working with this piece of music infused with the energy of forgiveness.

And lo and behold,

What shows up an opportunity to forgive what absolutely needed to be forgiven before she was ever going to be able to create that healthy relationship.

So out of that whole experience,

I'm like,

Oh,

You know,

I'm thinking I'm onto something here.

I started building a library of different pieces as I started doing more and more session work.

I would see people maybe need self confidence or maybe to love themselves more,

Maybe to build faith and trust or maybe to relax and let go.

I mean,

I started building all these different pieces and then really in essence,

Prescribing them to my clients to help them to shift vibrationally,

To move past different things and to create,

You know,

Align themselves with they really want to create in their lives.

Yeah.

I mean,

When I listen to music,

Sometimes I don't listen necessarily to to the lyrics always.

Like,

It's very actually common to listen to music to not pay attention to the lyrics.

But usually when I don't do that,

I find that after listening to something for a week,

It has an impact on me.

And it's not because I listen to the lyrics,

But as as you also talked about these frequencies,

But also when I then look up the lyrics and I see what they're actually talking about,

It's like,

Yeah,

I sort of felt that all along,

Even though I wasn't necessarily aware.

It's not even you know,

You can even listen to a different language.

It doesn't matter.

The the transmission,

So to say,

Of these emotions and intentions are carried through music.

And that's so mind blowing for me.

Well,

And it's not only music,

But it's also how we show up in the world.

It's an expression of who and what we are,

How we talk,

How we interface with people,

How we connect with people.

You know,

We're vehicles for this expression.

And,

You know,

Music is,

You know,

Along with any other type of art form or any type of self-expression is an excellent,

You know,

Medium for conveying intention.

And it really kind of opens up to the door to just how powerful we truly are.

Right.

And I mean,

I imagine that when you started to play guitar and you said you played it mostly for yourself,

That is it true that there was also a healing going on when you played the guitar in your own time?

And was it throughout this time that you played it that you came to a sort of state where you could start to help others?

If that makes sense.

Well,

I think,

You know,

In essence,

I really was doing sound healing and meditation at the same time for myself,

Because it was a guitar that helped me through some of the dark nights of the soul.

It was the music in those times that helped me to deal with the stress levels that I was dealing with in my career.

You know,

It was that.

But I didn't put it together.

You know,

I didn't like,

Oh,

There's something,

You know,

Cool about my music.

I just thought,

Ah,

You know,

It's pretty music.

It's just helps me to relax.

It wasn't until after that discovery that I that I really became purposeful in how I used it not only on myself,

But how I could share this with others and combine it with things like meditation and different processes really to help people compose extraordinary lives,

Which is something I've always had a passion about.

Yeah.

And so for you personally,

As a musician doing this,

Is there a way that you can sort of say sharpen the tool that you're using?

I mean,

I imagine you play and practice every day,

But is there like a cultivation or a certain state that you get in before you play?

I think it's it's about.

You know,

This I think,

You know,

Every morning,

You know,

I get up and I do my meditation and I do my internal process work.

And when I go and I play out or I'm working with a group of people,

I will always take a moment to breathe and connect to my breath and tune in.

And and then when I do like I do keynote concerts and big bigger events to I'll take a moment to tune in and imagine light coming in through the top of my head and lighting me up like a light bulb,

You know,

With with love and compassion and possibility and then reflect that out as I go about my work.

But,

You know,

So those are just kind of some of my own internal practices that I do.

And then,

Of course,

There is the physical aspects.

You know,

I practice with the metronome every day,

My scales,

My chords,

My strumming,

Everything to sharpen on a physical level.

But there definitely is a mental internal practice that needs to take place also.

Yeah,

It's something that I find alchemy is a good word for that you work on this sort of alchemy,

This sort of cosmic soup,

Which needs ingredients sometimes.

And like your bacteria is in your body are creating an environment,

You know,

Where your food can be digested good or actually not that beneficially.

I feel it's the same with your mind.

You're creating conditions for your basically your whole life to process through that space of yours in a beneficial or not so beneficial way.

And unfortunately,

Yeah,

Even music,

I feel,

Is used a lot in a way that that doesn't create a very healthy mental environment.

Well,

You know,

Once again,

It comes back to the intention aspect.

What's the intention?

I mean,

If anger and hatred and things like that are put into the music,

Well,

What's it going to do to you energetically?

What's it going to how's it going to impact you?

I mean,

Even if you look at sound healing itself,

There's a lot of study that's been done on,

You know,

Today,

The standard for tuning instruments is at 440 Hertz,

Which,

According to some of the different pieces and studies that I've read is disharmonious in nature and out of alignment with the universe.

And it was really a standard that was established after World War Two.

But prior to that,

Instruments were tuned to 432,

Which was in harmony with the universe and mathematically in harmony with with the universe with pie.

And so,

You know,

Like,

For example,

For I would say probably the last five years,

I've been tuning my instrument to 432.

And there is a difference.

There is a difference that I notice in how not only how the instrument plays,

But it's it's it's like adding another layer of frosting or something on top of the cake of what I was already putting out.

It's something kind of magical.

So,

You know,

It's it's a great vehicle.

But certainly there is music out there that gives us energy and empowers us and lists us to new heights.

But there's also music,

As in anything in life,

That takes energy away and brings us down.

Right.

And so this tuning to the different frequency is that is your guitar standard now tuned in that tuning?

Yeah,

I tune it to 432.

And and so the difference is that,

For instance,

Just so our listeners also understand,

If you would now play a song that is composed in the standard tuning and you would play along with it,

It wouldn't harmonize.

Right.

Your tuning is a little bit is it right?

Low.

Yes.

That's lower.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

And so,

You know,

My my first albums that came out,

Those were tuned to 440 and the scientists still discovered this healing energy.

So this energy is like something that comes through me.

It's something I guess it's kind of like my innate gift.

I remember sitting down with Dr.

Jones and he said,

You know,

He goes,

It's really kind of amazing.

You have an innate ability and gift to harmonize disharmonious energy.

He said,

I don't know how you do it.

He said,

But that's your gift.

And I mean,

I certainly didn't know.

I didn't know.

I mean,

I wasn't consciously aware of what I was doing.

I just became consciously aware of how I could use the music after the gift was discovered.

And,

You know,

Because in essence,

We're kind of like guitars.

All of us are.

You know,

We have these facets of our lives.

Those are the strings.

We take action through the facets of our lives.

We produce results.

That's,

You know,

The strumming and the plucking and the music that we play.

And,

You know,

I could play like Andrei Segovia.

But if my guitar is not in tune or in harmony,

Am I going to make beautiful music?

No,

I'm not going to.

It doesn't matter how well I play.

Doesn't matter how well I go to work and do all the things that I need to do.

If you're out of tune,

You're never going to reach your full potential.

And that's the beauty of things like meditation,

Sound healing,

These internal processes.

They help us to tune the strings of our life experience and tune ourselves so that we can truly step into bringing the next higher expression of who and what we are out into the world.

Right.

It's like tuning into harmony instead of disharmony in your life.

Correct.

Yeah.

Incredible.

Yeah.

And so you talked a little bit about,

You know,

The noise,

So to say,

That is around us.

And what is actually the impact of the static and noise caused by our modern way of living?

And is there something we can do about that?

Well,

Yeah,

You can rise above it.

So,

You know,

And this is kind of like because,

You know,

Our technology is not going away anytime soon.

You know,

Look at how much we're distracted by our cell phones and smartphones or whatever they want to call them.

And,

You know,

It's not going in a way we're only going to be further entrenched in it.

So if you think about if you think in terms of energy and that everything's energy and produces a frequency of vibration,

Kind of like a AM FM radio dial,

You know,

Those old radio dials where you would see all the frequencies,

You know,

Everything that's disharmonious in the world is broadcasting.

Let's just say for simplicity sake at eighty eight point five.

You know,

It's like if you tune your station eighty eight point five,

You get static and noise.

Well,

Most of us are tuned eighty eight point five.

But what if there was a way to move from eighty eight point five to ninety point seven?

You're not going to receive the broadcasts of those disharmonious energy producers.

So how do we do that?

Well,

Once again,

This is where meditation comes in.

This is where sound healing comes in.

This is where eating good quality foods comes in.

This is where drinking good quality water comes in.

When we do those things,

We feel better.

Why?

Because you're actually raising your frequency and your energy up to a new bandwidth.

And that's what I do with this energy that comes through me,

That comes through the music,

Is it raises people from eighty eight point five to ninety point seven where they're no longer being negatively impacted by those negative influences in the environment.

And ultimately,

That energy can be used to let go of these negative belief patterns that we've all imprinted into the subconscious mind where they no longer negatively impact us and their broadcasts no longer limits us from being who and what we are.

Right.

It also reminds me of like all these different structures around us have sort of a frequency that they resonate more.

You see that with the I think it's the crystal wineglasses or like these wineglasses that resonate with a certain frequency and even can make them burst.

And I think two days ago I was lying on my floor and I heard my neighbor speak,

But only at certain frequencies would it really get through to the ceiling.

And it just made me realize like,

Wow,

You know,

Even our body and all the internal organs that we have in our mind,

It has all these frequencies that we respond to and that cause different things.

And I think that's so fascinating to be aware of that,

But also work with that as you do.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And then for all of us to realize,

You know,

We've all been blessed with this gift to move energy.

You know,

We're all doing it every day anyways.

Just most of us are unconscious of what it is that we're moving,

What the conscious mind is thinking.

You know,

We think thousands of thoughts every day.

How many of those thoughts are empowering versus disempowering?

You know,

And if we think the same thoughts repetitively,

Which of course we do,

They create vibrational thought patterns and get imprinted into the subconscious mind.

And then the subconscious mind is kind of like,

OK,

I'll take whatever you give me.

And then so whatever you program in there and then it just,

OK,

I'm going to do my job.

I'm going to broadcast it to this field of energy that makes up everything in the universe.

And then,

Of course,

That field of energy just goes,

Hey,

I'm going to take whatever you broadcast and then I'm going to mirror back to you what you're broadcasting.

What a great way to experience yourself.

What a masterful game of life.

And then we kind of go,

Gosh,

I wish I had read the fine print before I came here to play the game of life.

You know,

Yeah,

But it really is a masterful design.

And then now more and more we're becoming aware of of our own power,

Our own innate ability,

And then becoming aware of how it's necessary for us to rise above these negative influences so that we can quiet the mind.

You know,

I love meditation and it's been around for thousands of years.

But yet thousands of years ago,

They didn't have 80,

000 manmade chemicals in the air,

Food and water and ceaseless,

Limitless amount of electronic waves being bombarded through our energetic fields and through our body.

You know,

That impact how the mind operates.

Dr.

Jones was always convinced that the reason why we see the huge amount of neurological,

You know,

Disorder showing up in the world today was because of all these energy disruptors.

I mean,

You look at that Parkinson's,

Alzheimer's,

Autism,

You know,

All these different things that have become so much part of the modern day world.

He was convinced it was tied to all these disruptors that were being exposed to in the outpicture of disharmonious energy.

Right.

And so let's say I'm looking for for healing.

I have let's just name something.

My relationship is not going that well.

We have a lot of fights and I am I stumbled on your sound healings.

Is there like a specific one that that I can pick?

Is it like how does it work if someone comes up comes up to you and they ask,

You know,

Like I have these things.

Do you do you always have something ready for that?

And how do you connect that in a way that works for them?

Well,

There's really three steps.

And this is what I've kind of defined over the years.

The first step is we must tune our energy,

You know,

And that means we need to rise above all the negative effects of the stuff in our environment because that impacts how we,

You know,

Really navigate and operate in life.

And then to use your example,

For example,

Of the relationship disharmonies showing up in the relationship aspect.

Well,

I can guarantee you that a reoccurring negative pattern in the area of relationship is always has to do with the belief that you hold within yourself.

So the second step is really about harmonizing energy.

And that's about releasing and dissipating these old limiting beliefs that you have about yourself,

About the world,

About in this case,

The area of relationship,

Always has to do with the relationship with yourself.

You know,

It's you got to take a look within.

And so I have music,

You know,

I have literally have music playlists and series that are really creative for each facet of your life.

So if you have a relationship thing here,

Play the relationship music.

If you have a prosperity thing here,

Oh,

They've got prosperity music.

If you have a,

You know,

A work thing and maybe a lot of disharmony at work,

You're always stressed out or whatever.

Hey,

There's a career and work music.

Maybe you're having trouble connecting in and getting connected into your spiritual aspect of who and what you are.

Well,

There's spiritual music to help you to connect into those things.

So I started putting together playlists and series that would address each of these facets.

And because,

You know,

I'm kind of this creative guitar guy,

I thought,

Wow,

I could just like,

I could break it down to the six strings or the six facets.

You know,

Why should Einstein get all the credit for string theory?

I'm going to come up with my own string theory and say,

You know,

Hey,

Well,

You know,

We all have strings.

We have our relationships.

We have our health.

We have our prosperity.

We have our careers.

We have our joy,

Our happiness,

Our fulfillment,

You know,

And our health.

These are the six strings.

When the strings go out of tune,

We experience a disharmony in that particular facet.

And that's when you have to work on that particular thing,

Either through engaging in series or in sessions,

Of course,

Where I deal directly with the individual and what's showing up for them or these general playlists and series that anybody can use to help the process of tuning that particular facet or string within their life.

Right.

And Mark,

I'm so happy you actually brought your instrument with you,

The guitar.

And we talked about it just before starting the recording,

But it would be incredible if you could play something for our listeners.

And I wonder,

Like,

What is something that you believe at this point you want to play?

Well,

I'll preface it with this.

I remember there was a point after this discovery that I was really kind of lost.

I wasn't really sure what I should do with this gift or how I should express it and bring it forward to really have the most positive impact upon people's lives.

And one day a friend of mine sent me a video and I was listening to the video and I heard this one comment and it just like,

You know,

Have you ever heard something that just resonates as complete truth?

And you kind of go,

Oh my gosh.

And so I read the quote to you.

It says,

You know,

People think we need to seek enlightenment.

No,

We are enlightened.

That is our natural state.

The unnatural state is what we have been put into.

We don't have to seek enlightenment.

We have to remove the vibrational barriers and the limiting belief systems that have held us in a state of unenlightenment.

It's not about seeking it.

It's about removing what is stopping us from being what we already are.

See,

You already are a masterpiece.

You already are divine.

You already are unlimited in your power and your ability to compose the life of your dreams.

And it's kind of like,

You know,

The comment from Michelangelo and how he carved David.

He said,

You know,

I didn't carve David.

I just removed the pieces that were hiding David within the block of marble.

Well,

That right there,

That's the game of life.

That's,

You know,

For us to experience our true masterpiece.

So it's interesting that you ask this question.

What would I want to do?

And this is this is a little process in music about revealing the masterpiece that's within you.

You know,

And once again,

This is a collaborative dance.

I could play the best piece of music in the universe.

But if you're not open and willing to set the intention to reveal the masterpiece within you,

It's not going to matter.

Kind of reminds me of my favorite email that a woman sent me.

Is there any way you can make a song that'll make my husband a better man?

You know,

I laughed.

I'm like,

Oh,

My gosh,

I'd be retired by now.

My wife would be playing that that song in the house all the time.

And I just said,

You know,

I could play the most masterful piece of music in the universe.

But if your husband doesn't want to become a better man,

It's not going to matter.

Yeah.

So this piece is all about revealing.

So it's kind of a little bit of a guided piece.

So just take some nice deep breaths and kind of get kind of tuned in to that inner place.

That place where we truly do discover our mastery.

Let's take a deep,

Slow inhale.

Just open mouth,

Exhale,

Let it go.

Just relax.

So as you breathe,

Set the intention to unveil the masterpiece that's within you.

So many of us spend our whole lifetime looking outside of ourselves.

Everything you need is right within.

And we take those moments to connect to those spaces between all of our thoughts.

We unveil another possibility,

Another opportunity to reveal the masterpiece within.

So just to the best of your ability,

Imagine breathing in the notes.

Take another deep,

Slow inhale.

And this is all you have to do to activate your greatness.

There's nothing to figure out.

No certain level of worthiness that must be achieved to access it.

Take another deep breath.

And let it go.

So just take another deep cleansing breath.

And setting intentions are great.

And as much as I'd love to say that all we have to do is just go sit on the sofa and meditate and that things will magically manifest in our experience,

We have to combine that with physical action.

So I want you to just come up with an act of self-love,

Something that you can do just for you.

Get out in nature,

Get a massage,

Take a bath with crystals and candles,

Whatever works for you,

Write in the journal,

Take some time to meditate,

Make that your committed action step,

And then look to see what shows up in your experience.

Look to see what bread comes show up along the pathway to lead you to revealing more and more of your magnificence and your unlimited potential.

So there you go.

Thank you so much.

Very beautiful.

And yeah,

I definitely notice the space of awareness that is created through music and also through your words.

It's very grounding.

I love it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for playing.

My pleasure.

Yeah.

And so when you play in front of people and you also play private sessions,

How do you work usually?

So there's a couple of different ways.

I do keynote concerts and then I do group healing sessions,

Where sessions of musical meditations,

People lay down and I take them through processes.

The interesting thing is I'm actually starting to have more and more opportunity to do this in the corporate world to help reduce stress and increase mindfulness and enhance performance.

And so that's kind of an interesting thing.

And then I work.

I do sessions with people where I listen to hear where they're out of tune.

And then I compose pieces of music or process that's vibrationally designed to support them in a way to help transcend some of these obstacles or reoccurring negative patterns in their lives.

And then I have a coaching program that I do.

It's called my Harmonize Your Life coaching program,

Where I take people through different layers of frequency and energy and process work to help them to unveil this greatness that's within them.

And that kind of opens up to the third step.

So we talked about the first two about tuning energy and harmonizing energy.

And then the third step is really about learning how to orchestrate it and shape and shift it into whatever it is that we desire.

That's our gift and our innate ability to do this.

So I have a coaching program that takes them through all three steps of those processes,

But really empowers them to become the conscious composer of their life experience.

And then I do licensing programs.

I do music for other people who are doing projects that are up to good work in the world that are looking to empower humanity.

I offer that particular aspect also.

But my passion is really about just working with people,

Whether it be in a group or a one-on-one thing.

I love that whole aspect and doing live events and stuff.

So it continues to be a huge,

Tremendous blessing and a lot of fun.

So those are kind of the main ways right now that I'm expressing.

Yeah,

Very cool.

Yeah.

And actually,

You talked about how a book sparked your journey,

So to say.

And what is a book you are reading right now that's next to your bed,

For instance?

Gosh,

I have a book and I'm kind of going,

What is the name of it?

It's such a cool book.

I'd have to go run and get it to get the exact title.

But it's about,

And I kind of like it because the woman who wrote it is kind of spicy.

And it's about really about getting in touch with the badass that's within.

I mean,

That's really the title of the book.

It has that in it.

I wish I could give you the full name.

But it really is about tying into that true essence,

That spirituality,

That divine expression,

And shedding all those old belief structures,

All the old stuff.

It says that we're not deserving of life's blessings.

Those are great works of fiction.

So it's kind of a book to help support that particular aspect.

So I love reading all kinds of personal development books and things.

It kind of inspires me in my own journey because I still get to deal with my humanity and constantly look into process and move things through.

So I wish I had the complete title for you.

Well,

I'll make sure to put it inside the blog post and description of the podcast so people can always look it up later.

And this idea of abundance.

And I remember,

Gosh,

It was a long time ago.

I think it was Rich Dad Poor Dad.

I don't remember the writer.

And it was like a book about how this kid had two dads.

One was a rich dad and one was a poor dad.

And he learned to have these two perspectives on life and the difference it makes inside your life.

And before that,

I sometimes heard about this idea of prosperity and abundance and fewing these things in a way of saying,

Don't feud them in a way that you don't have enough.

Feud them in a way that you have an abundance.

And I think that's such a powerful thing.

But for a long time,

I couldn't understand that because it was like,

Yeah,

But life is life,

Right?

You can't change it.

But it's really about changing this perspective and changing your view of what is possible.

And I think this perspective of abundance,

Of seeing like I have enough,

You know,

And I have enough to give and enough to,

There's enough opportunity for me.

And you know,

Also in rejection,

If you get rejected,

There's like,

There's so easily this tension coming up of keeping everything for yourself,

You know,

Like that's so typical,

Something in my life that rejection is such a strong thing that sometimes when it happens,

I can like mentally crawl up into a ball thinking like I need to protect everything.

And yeah,

But that does the opposite.

It creates actually more rejection and more negativity.

Well,

And that's a,

You know,

And that's something I've certainly had to work through.

I mean,

You know,

My inspiration for playing music was Pink Floyd,

The Wall.

I was all about living behind a wall.

And that was kind of my,

You know,

That was my,

You know,

National anthem,

So to speak,

Because,

You know,

If I wasn't accepted or rejected or whatever,

You know,

I started as a kid believing I wasn't good enough.

So I hid behind the wall.

I'm fine if I'm here behind the wall,

I don't have to worry about being judged or whatever.

Well,

You know,

That model doesn't work very well.

And I certainly wouldn't endorse it as a behavioral pattern.

And it's interesting because we were talking about the book I'm reading and she addresses that,

That very aspect.

And by the way,

I found the name.

It literally is.

You are a badass how to stop doubting your greatness and start living an awesome life.

The author's name is Jen Cicero.

And I mean,

It's and I like her because she's kind of spicy,

As you can tell by the title of the book.

But she addresses that very same thing.

Not everybody's going to like you.

Not everybody's going to love you.

But what is it?

You know,

If you're trying to find your sense of self-worth,

Self-love and acceptance based on how people react to you or the outer world is towards you,

You're never going to find it.

You find that place within.

You find it within just like you find your greatness.

You find your self-acceptance,

Your self-worth,

Your self-value.

All that comes from within.

You can't buy it on the grocery store shelf.

You can't buy it at the Mercedes dealer.

You can only find it within yourself.

And that,

I think,

Is,

You know,

Getting people to open up to the possibility of living life from the inside out is certainly backwards from how we were raised and taught.

And you're talking about Rich Dodd,

Poor dad and Richard Kiyosaki is the author of the book.

You know,

And he talks about that,

You know,

Is that you have to live life in a completely different way to how we've been programmed.

Yeah.

Makes a lot of sense to me now.

It didn't back in the day.

I love how,

Yeah,

I love how you sometimes can look back on these things or books or a movie.

You sometimes you see a movie again and you're like,

What?

I missed that the first time.

You just,

You know,

It's so dynamic.

Everything keeps changing.

And I,

I love that,

That 10 years ago I wasn't where I am now and I won't be where I am 10 years from now.

It's like,

Oh,

Thank God.

Right.

That would be pretty boring.

Right.

If my perspective would never change in my life.

I mean,

That's that's such a,

I love that about,

You know,

Like meditation is that you find out that even this,

This sort of identity that you think is,

Is you,

It's just,

It's just changing all the time too.

You can't let's sort of say this is who I am.

I love that.

Well,

We're,

You know,

And I think what,

What really kind of changes our level of awareness,

You know,

Our awareness changes.

And therefore we start,

We'll go back and watch a movie,

Like you said,

And see something that we didn't see or go back and read a book that we read five,

10 years ago.

And oh my gosh,

It's like a completely different book,

You know,

Because our level of awareness and literally who we are has transformed and changed.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And going back to what you said about these frequencies,

You know,

I remember a friend of mine suggesting the power of now from Eckhart Tolle,

Like,

I don't know,

Way back.

And like,

I,

I knew that he was offering something that was valuable,

But it was,

I was not tuned into that.

So I didn't read it up until,

I don't know,

Maybe five years later or something.

And then it hit me,

You know,

And it was always like,

It's for me,

That's so magical because it was like,

Okay,

So there's always people tune in.

There's always people tune into different things and they might offer you something,

But you might not be able to receive it yet.

And you need to,

You know,

Get into that,

That do the work and cultivate that,

That,

That frequency,

Or as you said,

Actually remove the ones that are blocking you from tuning into that to be sometimes able to experience that and like opening up or letting go is such a powerful one.

Absolutely.

It's so funny.

You mentioned that book because I think the first time I read it,

I like fell asleep.

I'm like,

Oh my gosh.

And then the next time later down the road,

I'm like,

Oh,

Wow,

This is like such a cool book.

You know,

The first time I'm like,

Oh my God,

This book is like,

I don't need to take sleeping pills.

I just read this book and I fall asleep,

But it wasn't until later,

You know,

Once again,

Perfect example of what happens when your awareness begins to shift and you look at things differently.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So Mark,

Uh,

First of all,

Thank you so much for joining me on the podcast as a sort of tradition,

Um,

On the podcast.

We ask our guests for a piece of advice.

And I would like to ask you a piece of advice for our listeners who,

Who might actually be struggling,

You know,

By tuning into that frequency of abundance and prosperity.

And,

And what is your advice for them?

If they are struggling with that,

If they're,

You know,

In their daily lives,

They don't notice prosperity.

They notice the opposite.

Like they didn't notice they don't have enough money.

They don't have enough love.

They don't have enough,

Uh,

Care.

Well,

Boy,

There's all kinds of different things we can tap into and focus on.

But I think one of the biggest pieces that really helped me in dealing with the challenges and the obstacles that I have encountered in my journey is first of all,

One,

You know,

We kind of tend to,

To resist them.

You know,

We curse them.

We don't want to pay attention to,

Oh my God,

Why am I having this problem?

Why am I having,

You know,

Challenges making money or whatever and stuff.

And we get angry and we fight it and we resist.

And,

You know,

Carl Jung said,

You know,

His famous quote,

You know,

What you resist persist in your life.

And so rather than resisting curse and use colorful metaphors to describe your challenges in life,

Why don't you inquire with them and ask them,

How is it that you can help me to elevate my life?

To elevate my life to a new level that somewhere within this challenge and this obstacle and this thing that I'm encountering is a blessing.

In fact,

The challenges in life are like the rungs in the ladder.

You can use them to raise yourself to new heights.

And if we view them in that particular way,

Then we can transform them and use them as a catalyst to transform our lives.

Otherwise,

You know,

If we're complaining and,

You know,

Being in a state of,

You know,

You know,

Just no gratitude whatsoever.

You know,

We get stuck in it.

We resist it.

You know,

We want energy to flow life will always have its ups and downs and it's high tides and it's low tides and it's new moons and it's full moons.

But when we remove resistance from them,

We're able to flow through them so much easier and effortlessly.

And then when we start to use those challenges and those obstacles as a rung in the ladder as a catalyst to change our lives,

We can really leverage them to continue this process of revealing who and what we are revealing our own greatness and moving forward from there.

Fantastic advice.

Thank you so much,

Mark,

For it for your playing and your,

Your talk.

It was a pleasure having you on a podcast and yeah,

I am.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Well,

And thank you.

Thank you so much for what you're doing and the platform you've created.

It's so important and you know,

All this cool people have things to say or music to play and whatever,

You know,

It doesn't do any good if we just did at home and play.

So thank you for providing the vehicle to get the message,

The music and this great conversation out to the world today.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

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