Empaths And Relationships With Sarah Weiss

In this episode, we dive into empathic relationships with the incredible Sarah Weiss, exploring what it truly means to be an empath and the unique challenges it entails. Sarah distinguishes being an empath from just being empathetic and discusses the importance of grounding techniques and setting boundaries to avoid losing oneself in relationships.

Additionally, we explore evolving relationships where each person remains connected to source energy for more fulfilling connections.

Transcript

Hi,

I'm Michelle Chalfant,

Psychotherapist,

Holistic life coach and human,

Just like you,

Learning to navigate life's challenges.

With over 25 years experience,

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Hello,

Everybody,

And welcome to the adult chair podcast.

I am Michelle Chalfant,

Happy to be here with you today,

And the lovely,

The delightful Sarah Weiss.

Boy,

We've had her on the show a few times.

She's one of my favorite people.

We went into some deep,

Deep conversations,

As always,

Of course.

We talked today about empaths and relationships.

We got into the energetics of relationships,

Which I should say we started there.

Yeah,

We went places,

So buckle in.

We had such a great show.

She's been on,

I can't remember,

Two or three times now.

For those of you that don't know her,

She is just an incredible wise woman.

She is a mystic,

A healer,

A medical intuitive mentor.

She leads retreats all over the world.

God,

I could go on and on.

I'm just going to jump in.

You'll have a sense of Sarah the moment she starts talking.

There's a presence that,

Oof,

Feel her presence,

You guys,

When she starts to speak.

There's just this beautiful present state that she holds,

And healing happens just listening to her,

I swear.

My heart just opens,

And we drop in together.

Here we go with the one and only,

Sarah Weiss.

Welcome to the Adult Chair Podcast.

Again,

I should say,

Again,

Sarah Weiss.

Hi,

Michelle,

It's so nice to see you again,

And be with you in your new upgraded being.

Oh,

My goodness,

Sarah,

Thank you for noticing.

That was your short that I saw that said,

Do all your work,

And then you change,

And then no one notices it.

Yeah,

Did you see that post?

Yes.

I saw that.

Yes.

Okay.

I love that.

Thank you.

Yeah,

Right?

People,

That's a good point.

That post I did the other day on social media was talking about how when we change,

Oftentimes other people don't see,

But you did,

You see,

You know.

Well,

Thank you for being on again.

Yeah.

We're talking today about empaths and relationships.

We're going to start out there.

You just took the words out of my mouth,

We're going to start here.

Now we're going to see where we go.

Yeah,

Buckle in everybody,

We're about to have a wild ride.

Here we go with Sarah Weiss today.

So let's start out with,

Yeah,

I'm so excited to have you on,

And this is going to be fun.

So empaths and relationships.

What I'd love to do is start out asking you,

What is an empath?

How do you define an empath?

Okay.

So just to put everything in kind of a container or context,

The word empath has probably been popular in the spiritual world and psychological world now for about 15 years,

Let's just say.

And the world has changed so much and the vibrational rate of the planet has changed so much that empaths started out kind of in this place where they were just feeling so much,

Feeling overwhelmed by so much input coming in because the nervous system of an empath is so sensitive.

So at first,

Compared to the rest of the world,

That looked like almost a negative.

It was like really hard to function and people were confused.

They didn't have even a word until the word empath became popular to figure out what was going on with them.

So basically,

A person who is an empath versus being just empathic,

Which is,

Or empathetic,

Is someone who has this very sensitive nervous system who can sense what other people are feeling.

They can sense what's going on with a tree,

With a rock,

With their carpeting,

Who has walked on their carpeting,

Who has sat in their chair.

They can feel everything.

And so that becomes very overwhelming.

You don't know what you're feeling at any given time because you have not been trained to bring your sensitivities into an organized,

Structured matrix.

And it's a multi-dimensional matrix and it's something that requires structure and teaching and training.

And so sometimes being an empath looks like you're very psychic.

Sometimes it looks like you're schizophrenic,

Psychopathic even.

I mean,

An empath can pick up someone's anger so intensely that they act it out.

And they're the ones that look crazy when it wasn't them to begin with in the first place.

Wow.

Yeah.

And that's what gets crazy in the relationships because when you're an empath in a close relationship,

Whether it's a friendship or a romantic relationship or a marriage where you've lived together for a long time and you don't know how to work with your energies,

And you have to be able to work with energy.

It's not just your psychological,

Emotional state.

And so it can get very confusing.

You don't know who you're being at any given time.

And so in a relationship,

It's almost like there's only one side to the relationship if the empath is not trained because they're just feeling the other person so much that they can't express or even know what their opinion is.

So it becomes extremely confusing and it can bring up feelings of inadequacy and feelings of insecurity,

Feeling like you're just kind of worthless because you can't speak up for yourself.

You just don't know your own identity.

And so your identity,

Which,

And by the way,

Highly sensitive people and empathic people make up almost 20% of the population.

That's a large amount of people that are walking around.

One out of five.

That's a lot.

Right.

Right.

It is.

And so that's a lot of people walking around overwhelmed,

Not understanding their energy,

Not understanding their psychology or identity.

And it's even hard to sort it out.

So when you're in a relationship with someone,

So you have a good friend and let's just say your friend is going through something with someone else or their work and they're feeling insecure.

They're feeling not confident about what's going on in a situation that is not related to you.

But an empath will pick up that feeling of that that person is having that feels insecure or not confident about what's happening or worried about it.

And they will start thinking,

Oh,

It's about me.

My friend is thinking that something negative about me and,

You know,

And then start to get all wound up in the other person's energies without knowing their own base,

Without knowing what the situation is.

All they're doing is feeling the friend's insecure,

Anxious,

Non-confident energy.

And unless you know how to translate that into grounding,

Wondering,

Opening up to it's not about me.

But very often it ends up being about the empath.

You know,

The empath just feels everything inside their own body and inside their own mind and emotions.

And it looks like you become very self-centered and then that starts to interfere with the relationship too.

And then very often,

And this is like the negative side of this,

You know,

If the empath is feeling overwhelmed and picking up all the any kind of insecure energy or questioning or anything and applies it to themselves,

Then they start wanting to control the other person in the relationship.

They start getting over-involved and entwined with the other person,

Trying to figure out everything that's going on.

And it can even get to the point where an empath could say to someone in a relationship,

You know,

You're not carrying enough positive energy for me because they can't carry it for themselves.

Okay.

So this can get very,

Very complicated in a relationship.

Okay.

Go ahead.

You know,

Were you going to ask something?

No,

I'm thinking about identity.

We don't know who we are.

And we're so,

And I'm trying to distinguish the difference between codependency and being an empath.

Codependency would have the same definition of being entwined with someone else like that and not being able to let go.

But an empath would probably multiply it a thousand times if they're not aware of what's going on.

And we're not born as codependents.

We're born as empaths,

Like we're born with that or in that way,

I should say.

So we can be born with this sensitive nervous system,

Which I believe is a more evolved.

I actually believe it's a more evolved nervous system that we are moving towards as a species.

Yeah.

Okay.

As human development and that we,

Especially in the age of Aquarius,

We are becoming much more collective oriented,

Collaborative oriented,

And you need that kind of sensitivity to work in those areas like that.

So unless you learn what's you,

An identity is really hard because an empath was never identified usually as having an identity.

In other words,

They were judged and had reflected back to them what everyone else was.

They never had reflected back to them what they were,

Someone with a sensitive nervous system.

So when you don't have someone reflecting back to you or you don't see in the world that personality type,

You don't know how to form that identity based on how our culture has formed identities.

I mean,

We've formed identities from external stimulation and examples,

Okay?

So just like there's a focus on having different identities in the media now,

And especially for women and every kind of identity,

You see yourself up on that TV screen or media screen and you say,

Oh,

Okay,

That's being reflected back to me and that I recognize that.

That helps support me.

There were no empaths on those TV screens when we were being formed.

And probably our parents didn't know how to reflect that back to us either.

So a big identity crisis happens because you're so fluid that you could be one person one second and one person another in terms of what you're feeling and you don't know what to express.

And most often,

A lot of your emotions get overblown and intensified because you're confused.

And it's much different than a multiple personality or any of the other psych diagnoses.

So now that we're becoming informed about empaths,

People are starting to,

You know,

There's lots of trainings for empaths now.

People are starting to identify that.

I think even the school psychologists are becoming sensitive to that now as part of an identity style on a spectrum,

Not the spectrum,

But a spectrum of identities that can be in a school.

So if you're an empath and you're in school and your teacher's having a bad day,

You're not going to be able to take in that information because you're just going to feel the teacher having a bad day.

I think about some of the things just myself being an empath,

But growing up disassociating a lot.

So would you say that's a quality of,

Because for me,

I remember the word and it's a word that still comes up for me.

And I'm thinking people that are listening to this are going to relate to the same word,

Which is overwhelm.

Definitely.

Overwhelmed with so many different things,

But emotions or feeling,

Or,

You know,

Can you talk a little bit about that?

As far as the disassociation,

I mean,

I know in my household growing up,

Like,

Wow,

It was just easier sometimes just to leave.

So as an adult,

I had to learn how to stay in my body.

I had to learn boundaries.

I had to learn all these things that as little kids,

We don't know if we're empaths,

That we need to do all those things if we don't have parents that are teaching us.

Right.

Right.

And we're not recognized for what the sensitivities can do and contribute to the world.

Okay.

And so,

You know,

I get on a soapbox about initiation and birthing practices and being reconnected to your soul when you're birth and someone being able to recognize and see you in a tribal culture,

It's very often they know the soul that's coming in and they prepare for that soul to be part of a community.

They know the name of the soul.

They know the qualities are coming in.

They'll know how they're going to fit into the circle and the community and contribute their part to the community.

And so from birth,

They're given their name.

That name can change as they evolve,

But they're given a name that reflects the frequency of their identity and their soul.

Right?

Yeah,

That's beautiful.

Right.

And that's what hasn't happened yet.

No.

Well,

It sounds like it did happen at one time.

It does.

And we got away from it.

Now we're coming back to it.

I hope.

I hope we are.

Someday.

I think it will evolve in that direction.

And so you need to be seen.

You need to be seen to stay in your body.

And if you're not seen,

And people are just projecting on you,

And then you feel all those projections,

You're going to split.

You know,

You are not going to stay around to feel all that.

It's very low frequency consciousness.

And so it's a lot of work to come back and to be seen and make space in the body.

So first of all,

Your body and being gets filled up with everyone else.

You know,

You look at someone's aura,

Their field is filled up with all the mess of the world.

And when your field and your body and your cells have taken on the frequency of everything around you,

There's no room for you there.

There's no room.

Oh,

That's good.

There really isn't.

It's already inhabited by other beings and things,

Okay?

So you have to be able to build a framework that allows you to clear and clean and make space for you to come back.

And the being that comes back has to be the one that is your true soul being.

It's a lot of work.

I mean,

We're all doing that in the consciousness realm anyhow.

I mean,

We are all trying to come back to our true being.

It's even more work for someone who's been living a life as an empath and more confused in a way.

I mean,

It's equivalent to anyone who's had major trauma.

I would put it in the category of major trauma.

I would consider that a major trauma and that the same amount of work that anyone who's overcoming major trauma to become more conscious,

I would say it's the equivalent amount of work.

But the payoff when you come back and you have your sensitivities in order is incredible because you can expand into multidimensional realms more easily than someone else.

So when I studied with a spiritual teacher for 30 years,

And one of the ways,

The major way that I was able to learn from him was because of my empathic sensitivities.

So I wasn't listening to what he was saying.

I was feeling the enlightened state of his being.

And so I was downloading those frequencies into my body.

And I was given the experience,

The vision,

What was possible.

And then once I could see and feel what was possible within me,

I then knew what my compass was set to,

To orient everything in my being towards living that in my being,

Making it mine and achieving those states.

So I never really listened to the teachings,

But I was able to get them downloaded into me,

Make them a reference point and say,

Oh,

I'm going to live like that.

I want to live an enlightened life.

And so I would,

You know,

Work my way towards that.

And it was all from a feeling sense.

It was all sensory awareness on every level.

So I could also then be in contact with the higher beings that he was working with,

The way the energies were downloaded to him to radiate out to the group and hit the whole enlightenment of his being,

Which was connected to other dimensions,

Because we're not just enlightened here in a 3D little box here.

This is a multidimensional experience and really be able to figure that out more easily than other people that were just trying to figure it out with their mind.

I had the real experience.

I had the experience of what he was radiating very easily.

And other people could pick that up too,

But not as easily as an empath cat.

The thing is,

You have to figure out how to,

If you decide that you like a certain state and it resonates for you,

You have to figure out how to get there and make it yours.

Talk about that a little bit more.

Let's go.

So someone listening now is going,

Well,

How do I get there?

I don't have a teacher for 30 years.

How do we shift into multidimensional states?

Well,

That's interesting.

So first of all,

The whole paradigm of like a guru student paradigm is completely gone now.

This was 50 years ago when I started that.

So that was the paradigm then.

Now,

The way that the planet has evolved and the consciousness of the planet has evolved,

All those teachings that were kept secret and handed down teacher to student,

Teacher to student are available in the air.

They're everywhere.

It's like,

It's so incredibly beautiful that every,

That the atmosphere of the planet is making available all the spiritual teachings in every single breath and every moment.

We are pervaded.

We are embraced.

We are surrounded by spiritual teachings and the higher frequencies all the time now.

And so we really are in a new place with this,

Which was not available before.

You had to go study with a teacher and then get to the place where you could receive something.

This now is in every molecule and atom and available to us.

So having come from where I started to where we are now,

I am so happy about this.

I love it actually,

Because it's,

Nothing's exclusive about it.

It is becoming our new normal.

It's the new frequency that's on the planet.

Now,

Someone could say to me,

Well,

I don't see that frequency on the planet right now because it's kind of crazy,

Right?

And it is,

But we are going through that transition time from the old paradigm to the new paradigm to the 5D,

The new earth,

Aquarian age and the shift of the yugas.

I mean,

This is a big deal right now.

This is not just a little shift.

I agree so much with everything you're saying,

Because I think about when I started my practice 20 some years ago,

How long it took someone to have a shift.

I'd have to work with them for weeks and weeks and sometimes a year,

And then boom,

They'd get it.

Now,

15 minutes,

Boom,

Like not even that sometimes.

And it's like,

I didn't,

Wow,

That was quick and easy.

It's the energy feels so different now.

It does.

When I was teaching a group 30 years ago,

It would take us all weekend to get to a place of just being free for a second,

You know,

Now it happens in five minutes and it's because of the support of all these dimensions that are open to us now and we're getting lots of support.

Yep.

The energy is ready.

Yeah.

It's just- It really is.

I mean,

It's making us ready,

I should say.

It is,

And whether you think of it as angels,

Guides,

And teachers or frequencies,

It doesn't matter because the effect is the same.

So if you want,

As an empath,

Want to be able to kind of figure out what to do with yourself,

Which is up to you,

It's really up to you,

And the framework is there.

There's so many good teachers out there.

I mean,

I would definitely get myself into some kind of empath training.

I used to do it.

I don't do it anymore,

But I do it on an individual session basis,

But I've moved on from that.

I'm working more with a bigger matrix.

Empaths would fit in it,

But I've moved on from that.

So I would get myself into one of the great trainings around.

There's lots of good people out there training.

There's Judith Orloff and hers,

And a whole bunch of good trainings out there,

Right?

And I'm sure you've had them on here.

Yeah,

I have actually.

I've had Judith on,

But I want to ask you something.

I want to go back to what you said.

I want to talk about a couple of different things I wrote down here,

But something that I want people to become aware of,

If you're wondering like,

Gosh,

Oh my gosh,

Is this me?

If you Google it and start reading,

You'll get a sense of,

Gosh,

This is me,

But living with overwhelm.

And because of what happens to our nervous system when we're young and the environment that we live in,

It could mean we live with a lot of anxiety.

It could mean we're living with depression.

It could mean a lot.

It could mean we're living again,

Just out of control or too controlling.

I mean,

There's so many things.

So consider that this could be,

And I don't want,

I'm not going to use the words,

People might be thinking,

Oh,

Is this what's wrong with me?

It's not what's wrong.

It's what's right.

We just have to learn how to navigate our lives as an empath,

As empaths really.

And something that you mentioned was to clean or clear and clean.

So when I think about,

I mean,

I have a meditation actually,

It's on Insight Timer.

It's on my website,

Specifically if you're an empath,

People love this one.

So check that out.

If you're wondering,

How do I,

How do I get clear?

I've got so many people in my energy field.

I've got the collective consciousness in my energy field.

Do that meditation.

It will clean and clear you off.

And then you will feel more centered.

You will feel more in balance.

I think it's on YouTube as well.

It's all over the place,

But it's the empath meditation.

I know you've got meditations on grounding.

I mean,

Gosh,

We have so many meditations out there.

But something that is so important is that we do clean and clear off and then start learning more about boundaries.

So can you talk to us a little bit about how do you clean or clear and clean?

Like what are some things that we can do right now to help getting really clear about who we truly are?

How do we get disconnected from the collective,

From my person I'm in a relationship with,

From my friends,

From my children,

From my mother?

We're like,

When we're empaths,

We just,

We're so blah,

I call it blobbing.

We're blobbing onto everybody.

Get yourself back,

Everybody.

Yes,

Right.

A technical term.

We blob on everybody else when we're empaths.

We've got to learn how to pull our energy back and get centered.

So talk a little bit about this.

If someone's listening going,

God,

Where do I even begin,

Sarah?

Where do I begin?

Right.

Okay.

So imagine all your energy cords are out,

They're external and they need to come back in.

So their antenna,

What are those sea creatures with all those little things coming in?

Anemones?

Yeah,

Yeah,

Yeah,

Yeah.

Yeah.

They have all those little things.

Yeah.

So the very first thing is picturing yourself,

Visualize drawing your cords back to you.

All those antenna and really it's your nervous system.

So even if you do some of the tapping therapies and breathing,

I mean,

You really have to learn the traditional basics of concentration and breathing and picturing yourself drawing back your energies into your own being.

Now you're drawing them back,

But you're reconnecting with your nervous system at the same time.

And that can feel uncomfortable at first because you have to draw these energies back and then reconnect them within yourself and you may not know where those connections are.

So it's really good to have a physical practice like yoga or Tai Chi or some kind of physical consciousness practice that helps you gently get back in touch with your own physicality and what it feels like to be in your own body and to have a sense of what's inside you and you inside you.

And so it should be a gentle practice.

Something that if you're in a class or with a teacher or something,

It's got to be patient and slow and feel safe.

Yes.

Because you don't feel safe.

You know,

Coming back to yourself can feel very unsafe.

It can be very scary for people.

So you do want to gently start coming back.

I personally love grounding with Mother Earth.

So I like to direct my energy down into my full body instead of just my head and bring my awareness very gently back to,

You know,

My breath,

My,

You know,

A traditional relaxation practice that has you go through the whole body.

And people tend to poo-poo those practices and think they're too simplistic.

They're the most important practices you can do.

The relaxation practices are very,

Very important.

When you learn how to do those and can appreciate it,

It'll take you into a very deep state.

Are you talking like a yoga nidra where you're just starting to set your head and just going,

Yeah,

Beautiful.

Right.

Yeah.

Simple.

You start simple.

Yeah.

So I love the practice of coming down because we're always going up and out and,

You know,

Feeling the belly breathing and releasing the lower back.

And here's one that people don't talk about,

Which is softening the coccyx,

The tailbone.

Talk about that.

Okay.

Okay.

So when you see a dog that's afraid,

Its tail is tucked under and rigid.

Yeah.

Okay.

Same with us.

So what our nervous system and the cerebral spinal fluid and all the spinal nerves and cranial nerves are all connected through our spine and cranium and that root chakra and the tailbone are where we hold the most rigidity and tension,

But we're not aware of it because in our culture,

We're not allowed to feel that area.

Yeah.

True.

We've been kicked out of there.

We have to reclaim that area of our body.

Yeah.

Okay.

And like,

Think you're relaxed,

But you're not because you're not in touch with all of your being.

And so just inviting that tailbone to soften and relax and feel the lower back and the hips spreading.

No woman wants to feel her hips spreading.

So true.

While we're relaxed,

Our hips feel like they're spreading even though they're not.

Yeah.

I love it.

And so it's even hard to allow yourself to get that relaxed,

But it's like when you come back and you get all the way connected into that coccyx,

Into the tailbone,

You're tethered back into your being,

Into your nervous system,

Into your cerebrospinal fluid,

Into the chakras.

And so it's a feeling of the lower back releasing,

The hips and buttocks releasing and sinking into the chair or however you're sitting,

But it's a lowering down and a sinking and a spreading.

Do people tend to have when they go here,

Because it's difficult to get in the body,

As you said,

It is difficult.

I've worked with clients long enough.

I worked with myself long enough trying to get in the body and get comfortable.

I find I get twitchy.

Like I start twitching.

Like what's going on?

I remember working with one of my mentors years ago and she's like,

What is,

What is going on?

You're twitching.

And she said,

I don't think you're used to being in your body.

And I said,

Oh no,

I'm not.

Right.

Right.

Which is why I think it's good to get into a training with other people to help you do this.

I agree.

Right.

Watch and help.

And so,

And also if you've had trauma to the lower part of the body,

The sexual trauma or any kind of surgeries or anything that has really been traumatic to separate you off from your body,

Then that is even more challenging.

I see it as empaths reclaiming their space and place and the space in their own body and their place on earth as beings who are here to really give something important to the human race and to kind of be the scouts out there that are creating the pathways for people to understand super sensitivity.

Well,

Let me ask you a question about the energy field.

And you talked about this,

The cords that we,

You know,

Cause I want to ask your opinion because I've always heard that when we even have a thought about somebody,

I'm sending a cord out and there it is.

I was thinking about,

I was thinking about you the other day,

Sarah,

And I sent that cord right out to you.

Right.

And then therefore we're connected.

So isn't it true that we really need to be cutting core and this is everybody,

Not just empaths.

Correct.

Right.

Right.

So we need to be cutting cords,

Honestly,

Throughout the day or at least once a day.

How often do you recommend cutting cords with people?

So I don't see it as cutting cords.

I see it as connecting up your thoughts to your body and your awareness and then raising them to a higher frequency.

I think the idea,

I would say for me,

The idea of cutting cords is kind of like an old paradigm idea that worked then and was what we had as a modality then.

And now the availability of these higher frequency awarenesses in our being allows us to actually be more aware.

I mean,

The way we're in an environment now where we can be more aware and we can feel in our own body and being what a heavy duty thought feels like versus a loving thought because that's where it lands first.

So if you have some kind of thought about someone that is not the most pleasant of thoughts,

You're going to feel it first in your body and it's going to take your body down first and it's going to radiate out into the morphic field,

Into the field of our unity consciousness.

In the old paradigm,

It was like black magic.

People would perform ceremony or voodoo or something to intentionally inflict harm on another person.

Now we are looking at that and seeing the more subtle pervasive effect of any kind of less than pleasant thought and feeling in our body.

And the voodoo person wasn't thinking or the black magic person wasn't thinking about what it was doing to them.

They were only thinking what it was doing to the other person.

And they didn't realize that they were adding that kind of energy to their own being.

So now we have this new awareness that allows us to know that what I do to me,

I do to you,

What you do to you,

You do to me,

And we're all involved in this big field together.

So we have our individual consciousness and we have our unity field together,

Which is becoming available to everyone.

So you do want to,

I would say,

Aspire to raise the consciousness and the frequency of your thoughts and your feelings as best as you can.

And even the relaxation in your body.

If you're walking around in fight flight,

You're adding that to the collective whole and you're also compromising your own immune system.

Which is why one of the practices in my grounding practice is I pay attention to the calf muscles.

So once we've worked with the tailbone,

Then come down to the calf muscles.

And the calf muscles are actually the first muscles that fire when we go into fight flight.

Oh,

I didn't know that.

I know.

And of course,

If you need to run away,

Those calf muscles are going to be the very first thing that just perks up and sends you off.

So the calf muscles need some attention.

And who thinks about their calf muscles other than,

Like,

Do they look good,

Right?

So bringing your awareness down into those calf muscles so that you have an interior sense of inviting them to soften and release actually takes you out of that fight flight state and draws your energy again further into your own being and your own flow.

And also,

You know,

Working with the vagus nerve,

All those practices are good practices.

Very important foundational practices.

And then we come down,

I come down to my feet and the chakras on the soles of the feet and I connect instead of,

So first of all,

It feels funny to me to like,

Only be a body.

I need to have my body,

I need to have the earth,

I need to have the whole cosmos as part of my being.

When I was 19,

Mother Earth shot up from underneath my feet and showed me how to feel my connection with her energetically through my feet.

Did I ever tell you this?

No.

You tell.

Yeah.

Okay.

I was in art school and we had an assignment to go out to the woods and do some nature photography.

And I got in my car,

I was walking down the path and all of a sudden my feet got stuck to the earth and I literally could not move.

I was standing there,

Carrying my camera,

Carrying my tripod,

Frozen.

It was like someone put like an invisible wall up or something,

I couldn't move.

And all of a sudden I hear this voice saying to me,

Please walk gently.

Please walk gently on me.

And she started speaking to me and sending her love and energy up through my body.

And that's when my feet first felt that sense of growing roots down into the earth and into her heart until I completely energetically melted into her being.

And that's something an empath could feel is that melting into her being.

And she held me there in this love.

And it was the same kind of love.

I've had a couple of near-death experiences and,

You know,

When a near-death experiencer says to you that they're held in this love,

Unconditional love.

And so I was held in her heart for 20 minutes.

I was standing there frozen in this altered state and I have no idea if anyone even walked by me.

And so at that moment,

You know,

My roots were connected to her.

My heart was connected to hers and it has guided my life ever since having that experience.

So we have the chakras on the soles of our feet that are what connects us to the earth energetically.

We have gravity holding us on to the planet.

And that gravity is the same as Mother Earth's love.

It's drawing us into the heart,

The consciousness.

Our planet is conscious.

It's a being.

Yeah,

For sure.

For sure.

It's a being.

Yeah.

And when we walk around without that awareness,

I mean,

What would be the point of coming to earth if we weren't learning from earth?

Right?

I mean,

We're not here to just walk along the surface.

Right.

It makes so much sense.

And so when she taught me that directly,

That's when,

You know,

My whole life changed.

I felt like I had come home,

Felt like I had come home and it was okay to be here.

Because she's a constant that is going to be more constant than anything else I know.

And she can provide a stream of love that is never interrupted.

And so we can live in an embodied state,

Feeling that love all the time.

We can live and walk,

Talk and think in that state,

Living within her consciousness.

And it makes so much more sense out of being here on earth.

And you know,

Blake,

Your son was referring to this in his,

In the interviews you did with him.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

In the podcast.

And so,

You know,

All my teachings and all my wish for people is that they can connect with this because it's a constant,

An infinite constant that is part of the embodied feminine state rather than always trying to reach outside of ourselves or feel like,

You know,

I have this lower being and my higher being should come in.

Where is my higher being?

Why isn't it here with me?

You know,

Kind of thing.

And it's here for us to have every,

To live in a permanent state of that connection.

And so again,

An empath who can direct their attention and their energy to something that is really permanent,

Flowing.

It doesn't make you feel like I'm drawing in my,

All my antenna and like stuffing them in my body.

I'm connecting them to something that is a greater flow,

A more embodied experience of love that is part of a flow of the eventually of the cosmos turns an empath into a realized being because you get the teachings from mother earth directly into your body,

Into your nervous system.

And you don't even have to process it with your mind.

It just automatically becomes like,

Like when you're in utero and the nourishment from your mother through the umbilical cord is nourishing you.

You don't have to think about eating and the same thing happens here.

Your umbilical cord is connected to mother earth and you are being constantly fed and nourished and taught and the natural,

The natural initiations will come through from that energy.

It is intelligent energy,

Just like someone who does psychedelics or has a transcendent experience.

You go into a place where,

You know,

There is this incredible intelligence,

Right?

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

And so this is an embodied way of walking,

Talking and being in your life of being able to connect with that intelligence and having it inform your being continuously.

And so there is a natural wisdom to living on earth,

To being a human who grows up into a realized mature being who has benefited from being on earth,

Who can then move on to their next life.

Having fulfilled the experience that was meant for earth.

We're not meant necessarily to have a miserable experience here,

Right?

We're miserable when we're disconnected.

Oh,

Okay.

I'm sorry.

I'm pointing.

That was powerful.

We're miserable when we're disconnected,

Spoken with so much truth.

This is it,

Sarah.

We are living lives so disconnected.

That's what's bringing about our illnesses,

Our mental illnesses,

Our physical illnesses,

Our overwhelm,

Our all of these things.

Oh,

That was good.

I'm going to drop the mic.

Thank you.

That's true.

And Blake was referring to that too.

I just listened to his podcast again,

But it's really true.

So it will take you through natural developmental stages through that intelligence.

It'll take you through challenges just like any kind of initiatory right can take you through challenges.

But those challenges,

When you meet those challenges,

Then you evolve your consciousness.

They're not just random circumstances that didn't have any meaning.

And so our sense of what life on earth is feels very disconnected is the word,

But it feels like such a narrow strata of consciousness that we limit ourselves to.

And there is just so much more that we could be experiencing.

We need to spend time without,

And I'm holding up my cell phone,

Without our phones.

These things are disconnecting us among other things,

But this phone,

Whether it be social media or texting or emails,

Or I'm bored,

So I'm going to get on YouTube or whatever it might be.

It seems like that's a way to connect all of us,

But honestly,

It's disconnecting us from who we truly are,

From the earth,

From our spirit guides,

From all of the things.

So we need to get more in the moment,

Ground ourselves in,

Connect back to mother earth.

And this is where the magic happens.

This is where we reawaken to who we truly are,

To the true self,

And we live from that perspective.

Right.

It's the mother reflecting to the child,

We are the child,

Who they are with the best intentions.

Yeah.

And so this is part of the feminine mysteries,

Which are waking up again now.

I was just going to say that too.

Yeah.

The good news is,

Is we're going in this direction where we are waking up to all of the,

To all of the things that you're talking about.

It's beautiful.

I'm feeling like,

Gosh,

I'm glad I'm here on this earth at this point in time,

Which I haven't said that a lot lately because it's been really hard,

Living as an empath is hard,

But also just sometimes living on this planet,

It's really hard because there is so much anger and,

You know,

Who are you voting for?

And it's like,

Oh my God,

Where's the love?

I just want to connect back to love.

And it feels like it's here more than ever.

It's coming.

And it is coming and it's here.

Yeah.

And if we can't live in that,

Then we're not able to provide,

Contribute,

Nurture ourselves and other people.

We're not providing the living energy,

The living love that we can provide.

Yeah.

The one thing I can say about some of the teachers on YouTube,

They do,

There are a few that really carry the living energies.

And when you can find them and feel that from them,

It's really,

Really,

Really nice.

But that's kind of how I live my life.

It's like,

Okay,

I can supply my own energy,

Which we all need to know how to do.

Yeah.

Because if we're not,

We're trying to get it from other people and other things.

So after you learn how to relax,

After you learn how to connect your energy and your body,

Then you learn how to clean and clear and maintain your energy so that you know you are sourcing from an infinite source and maintain your level.

You have to maintain a certain level.

I can feel when I drop below and everything like becomes something I want to grab from the outside.

And then I know I have to like reconnect and come back in and connect back to source.

And once I can do that,

Then I can be much more available to participate in life with other people.

And for an empath to know that they can source their own energy,

It's really,

Really important.

It's pivotal to know that you have a place to come back to where you can plug back in,

Get filled up,

Come back to yourself,

Shed anything that you've picked up.

Now if we lived in a much more enlightened culture,

Empaths would not have as difficult of a time as they do.

It's a particularly difficult time right now.

Do you ever recommend that we pull our energy fields back closer to self?

And I'm wondering,

Is it an empath thing that we tend to,

You know,

I'm way out here or you know that we go way out,

We're in the collective,

You know,

I found myself recently getting very angry,

Like unusually angry when I have a thought around like there's so much talk right now,

Especially for people that are,

Let's say 40 and older talking about menopause and how little information is out there.

And when I start thinking about it,

The amount of anger that comes through me,

I'm like,

I don't feel like this is all my anger.

I realize it's the collective,

Right?

So I've been feeling this intuition also to just,

Okay,

Come back,

Come back,

You're too far out.

Do you ever recommend that we as empaths to do that?

So I would say,

Look at what you're connected to.

Okay.

So I don't think it's a good idea to make yourself smaller and tinier,

You know what I mean?

To like control your field in a way that is one dimensional,

Right?

Okay.

So you want to come back,

Reconnect and be in a flow in your field rather than shrink a field.

So but my question is,

Is when we feel something that doesn't feel like it's ours,

Right?

So I'm in a relationship.

My husband is in a bad mood and all of a sudden I'm in a bad mood,

Like,

Uh-oh.

So again,

I'm going to go through clearing and grounding and cleaning myself off,

Grounding and.

.

.

Right.

And you're going to enjoy your big expanded field all by yourself.

Oh.

Okay then.

I'm not going to invite him in then.

Yes.

And actually that brings up a really interesting teaching that's coming through with the new paradigm.

Our old way of being in relationship was merging.

Yes.

Right?

Yeah,

True.

Right?

Okay.

The new frequency of relationship is that each person is connected to source.

Oh,

I love this.

And there isn't personal merging when each person is connected and know they serve and can be served by source.

There's no need to merge.

Then what happens is the energies expand and a greater sphere of love,

The higher heart chakra instead of the second chakra,

Becomes the container for the relationship.

I love this so much.

I can feel this.

When you just said that,

It went in through my heart.

My whole energy field went.

.

.

That was high truth.

I love what you just said.

Oh,

Thank you.

That's what's coming in now.

That's what we're being taught through the air.

Those are the teachings that are downloading now.

I love this.

And it's not that the old way was bad.

It was the frequency of the Piscean Age.

And now we're in a new frequency.

And oh my goodness,

That's like a lot to unlearn and a lot to learn.

We were really connecting through our second chakras contractually.

I'll do this for you.

You do this for me.

I feed this to you.

You feed this to me.

Whatever.

It was more contractual from the second and the needs were lower frequency needs.

So when you can source your energy and know you can do that,

Then you don't have a need to have someone else source energy for you.

That allows your field to expand into the higher frequency of love.

And that becomes the container.

And there's a whole new subtlety and support that comes to each person in the relationship then.

So that's what we have in store for us.

Why are you dropping these truth bombs at the end of the podcast?

Oh,

Wait,

We need a whole other hour.

I want to keep going.

Okay,

We're bookmarking.

I'm having you back.

Okay.

This needs to be talked about.

It does.

And that is the higher evolution of the human being and what we're fully capable of now that we're in this new frequency.

So I want people to understand this was not available before.

Okay.

But it is available now.

So it's in the collective unconscious.

It's in the collective conscious.

And we are figuring out how to let go of the old way and how to find our way into the new way.

And that's not simple necessarily.

But maybe you and I could do a workshop on this.

No,

You're reading my mind.

You're reading.

Oh,

Okay.

Sorry.

Sorry.

No,

No,

No.

No,

This is good.

We're going to do a workshop on it.

Okay.

But I have to stop the podcast so we can talk about it.

Okay.

This is phenomenal.

And I can feel the energy like,

Yes,

We absolutely need to do this.

Gosh,

Sarah,

Is there any last minute?

I know we're at the end of our time together.

Is there anything else?

Any other truth bomb that you want to drop for us or do you feel complete today?

I just want everyone to enjoy their full field and their whole being as a pure experience of peace.

I mean,

I'm at the point in my life where I want to live in peace.

Yeah.

I love this.

And the way to do that is to come home to yourself.

You've got to get present and connect back to yourself and ground in.

That's what we need to focus on now.

And so the work you've done with the adult chair to bring people into that adult chair and understand where they've come from is the stepping off point for this next level.

Yes,

It is.

It is the next level for sure.

That's good stuff,

Sarah.

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