Dissecting The Wisdom - Moving To A Higher Circle

In this episode, Jeffrey and Mark explore the circularity of our universal existence and how the storms that appear in our lives are not many different storms but the same storm which circles back time-and-time again until we learn the lesson the difficulty is trying to teach, transcend the difficulty, and move to a higher circle of consciousness. They also discuss Shaltazar’s revelation that our reaction to the last storm dictates the scope and intensity of the storm that appears next.

Transcript

And welcome back everyone to Dissecting the Wisdom of Shultazar with my fellow collaborator and good friend Mark Lane.

Welcome back,

Mark.

Hi Jeffrey,

Thank you.

Good to be here.

Excellent,

Excellent.

And today you've picked an interesting message for us to dissect and that message is?

Moving to a higher circle.

Mm-hmm,

Interesting.

And why don't you tell the listeners what drew you to that message and why did you decide that that's the one that we're going to talk about today?

That's always the interesting,

Mysterious question,

Isn't it?

I'm not a hundred percent sure,

But truth be told,

As I was putting away,

I print the messages out and I listen to them and then read them and then listen to them again.

And as I was putting the one,

The unity consciousness message away,

This was the next one on the pile and a line that I had highlighted caught my eye and I was like,

Hmm,

This kind of seems like it's connected to what we've been talking about the past couple weeks.

And I thought,

Well,

Spirit is leading me in this direction,

So let's see what it says.

And so I listen to it again and it has a lot of information with respect to everything that's going on right now in society and around the world.

So I thought,

Well,

Maybe this is the one that we need to talk about next.

Yes,

Excellent choice,

Excellent choice.

And thanks for sharing how you did that because I think it's important for people to realize that when you get out of the way,

Your guidance,

Your intuition,

Your sixth sense,

Your gut feeling,

Whatever it is you want to call it,

Will lead you in a direction if you're open to it.

And you know,

I would suggest that any message we pick to dissect is a good one or a right one,

But this one is very,

Very specific and I know when people are going to go back and listen to this series,

They're going to find it very uncanny that we picked the messages that seem to evolve and lead from one to the other and that was not our intention.

So certainly a plug for surrender,

Keep doing that,

Just wait for spirit to guide you in what it is you want to talk about.

And this is really one of my favorite,

It's a little bit esoteric and it's a little bit mystical and interestingly enough as I re-listen to it lately after you gave me your choice and I love the way you do that because you don't really give me your choice until you know the day we're recording this and I love doing it that way because then I don't have too much time to think about it,

I just listen to it and read it and then see where it's all gonna go.

And as I'm listening to it,

There's a couple things that caught me.

One was the essence of what they were saying sounded like it was relevant today,

It was like oh this is one of the recent ones.

So I had to go and look back and it was May of 2018 that I channeled this message and yet it seems so timely today which is kind of really neat.

And then the other thing that caught me is somewhere in here it refers about moving above the fourth dimension and it's like gee that's one I just channeled a few months ago and yet the seeds of that one were sown so to speak back in May.

So I found it's really fascinating,

I encourage listeners to let go and let spirit guide you,

It's really quite interesting.

This one starts out in one direction and then it seems to take a bit of a turn or intensify.

My favorite part of this message is the last half of it,

The last part of it,

But even in the beginning the first half of it has got some really interesting stuff and this is one where Shaltazar uses some analogies,

Some metaphors,

Some visualization to drive the message home.

Tell me some of the feelings and thoughts that came up for you as you reviewed this message.

Sure,

Well yeah I mean it kind of begins with a metaphor of a storm.

Shaltazar often says that we're in a time of great change,

Right,

And it kind of connects the idea of change to a storm and the fact that life sends us these storms,

As we experience them we're unsettled,

Unhappy,

Fearful,

Stressed and then the storm passes,

The energy dissipates and things return to what we consider normal and so we kind of get to take a breath and say okay and then the next storm comes and the moving to a higher circle part is kind of as you described kind of the esoteric part of the part that's a little bit difficult to grasp because we're such linear thinkers,

The idea that there's a sentence in here that says it's not another storm following in line behind the first,

It's the same storm coming around again in a circle and it's going to keep coming around like a merry-go-round until we learn to get off of that circle and rise above that storm.

So I guess that was the kind of the meaning that I took from it.

Absolutely,

Absolutely and I don't know about you but I've reflected a little bit about the circular nature of those storms in my life.

I'm 68,

I've had lots of storms and hopefully I will have lots more.

You'll notice I say hopefully because part of this message says that when you are fortunate enough to move above the circle storm that you're on you get to advance to a higher level of consciousness where there's a whole other set of storms to deal with.

Have you noticed in your life any circular nature of those storms when you're able to reflect back in a way that when they were happening they felt linear,

It's sort of like whether it's money or time or whatever it is.

Have you noticed some circular nature,

Have you noticed something that ties those storms together when you look back saying oh yeah that was the same issue I was supposed to learn,

It just came forward dressed in a different costume.

Oh yeah sure,

Yeah I mean there are probably a number of examples in my life.

You and I have talked about my relationship with money before and that seems to be a very prevalent one in my life.

There have been times back when I was in my 20s where money became an issue and if I look back now you know it's hindsight you know 20 20 hindsight I can see it was the same issue that just kept circling back and what I guess the idea of moving to a higher circle each time the intensity was different right the first time was very intense and also causing and health impacting and I mean all sorts of negative repercussions and vibrations from the first time and the second time different you know still intense but not quite as debilitating it let's say.

The most recent time kind of,

Jeez I don't know how to describe it,

Momentarily intense but quickly quickly passing so you know just a what was a huge line of thunderstorms at the beginning that lasted for you know days turned into you know a smaller line of thunderstorms that lasted maybe one day and then this turned into you know a brief brief cloud burst and that was it so yeah that kind of the idea of progression as you grow and learn and evolve.

Yeah yeah that reminds me of something that that Sholtazar calls the layers of learning it sort of life is is like this onion right and and so and it's interesting because it's it's easier for our linear mind to if we can grasp the circular nature of these lessons that we're here to learn we we tend to minimize them by thinking that it's one circle one lesson but it's it's not really because because on different circles of consciousness you could have something like a money issue that is going to have a component of two or three circles and and you learn one layer of it on one circle and then you learn another layer and then you learn another layer so it's not quite as is linear even in a circular fashion that it's one circle per issue in in in the message they sort of talk about these concentric circles all connected and it's that connectivity that's important and it's interesting because you know over the last couple of discussions you know we talked about time and as you were talking about you know your money circle which of course I have a money circle as well I'll never forget when I decided to sit down in journal with a $20 bill and think that maybe this $20 bill would give me some insight into the storms that were coming around you know about money but I believe that even time and money are somewhat connected because it's around lack and abundance and so there's a there's this multi-dimensional aspect and and shelters are talks about that I think that the line that you referred to by moving to a higher dimensionality by realizing that the storms are not coming forth in a linear progression and here's the learning for today the storms are coming forth in a circular fashion they are not several different storms coming forth one after the other no they are the same storm repeating over and over again they appear different they appear linear but they are not that is an illusion okay and the key to this is the reaction the response the reaction you have to the storm determines what comes next if you allow the scared fearful feelings after each storm to build one upon the other in a linear way the storms will keep coming but the but that does not have to be the case you can let go and release of the scared feeling remnants after each storm and it goes on and talking about you know detoxifying your energy but it's so interesting how you know maybe your time issue is related to your money issue and the same with me and so you know I encourage listeners to have some fun with this if you take it too seriously and you try to rush to the finish line by completing the most circles which is sort of that attitude that some of the people have with video games these days it's like you know and and the levels in video games are very much like this this concept of circles but the video game the object is to win the object is to get to the end whereas I think what shelters are is saying is there is no end point it's all about the game it's all about the experience so enjoy that process yeah yeah yeah that's actually I never thought about that before but that video game idea I don't play video games because me neither maybe because of that because it seems like a it seems like a never-ending rabbit hole that you can never climb out of you know there's there's never there's never you know accomplishment it's you just keep moving and moving and moving and I guess my my my perspective is at some point I hope to achieve mastery and I don't know that you ever can in a video games but the idea of moving along in steps is very apt well you know once you master one game the the manufacturer of that game is going to come up with another another version of it so but that whole concept I mean as you were talking wouldn't it be interesting if we taught the young people to play the game not to win but to learn whatever they could to if you know to allow their evolution to be the object of the game not the winning or losing and and I think that's what this this message is all about is about the idea that you know the purpose of human life is to allow the source to know itself beyond its its all being and all knowing and so experiencing these storms and how we figure them out is really the mastery of the game and with consciousness rising on the planet I think it's a great opportunity for you to look at it so you know one of the things I would encourage the listeners to do is start looking at the problems that keep repeating themselves whether they be career money relationships health whatever it is try to look at those issues in in terms of a bigger picture of the lesson you're here to learn it may hold some some keys to unlocking that ever repeating pattern hmm that's good that's good advice I think that you really have to stop in and become aware of those issues that seem to plague you or to continue to continue to repeat in your life because I don't think that we always are even aware of them it seems like you know we either push them away once the storm ends and pretend that or try to forget that they ever happen or we know and then we're surprised by them when they come back but I think when you do that you you kind of circumvent the learning in a way you know you don't you don't have the experience that you need to have yeah and then this message it's interesting you say that because in this message they're saying you can't pretend you know what you don't know or you you you can't pretend that you didn't experience something so consciously you know or unconsciously we try to avoid the storm we say it's over the storm is finished right here if you're in the midst of this terrible experience when it's over you you kind of sort of cover it over but the the body the cellular memory remembers it and that's where they're saying it's important to detoxify it's interesting my wife has got this amazing memory and you know if something happened 20 years ago at a particular place and we go back there she will really expect the same thing it's like you know I was stung by a bee there you know so that's what all right if you're driving around the city you know and and Lois used to grow up in the city if police used to hang out in a particular place for a speed trap she's saying you better slow down there could be a speed trap and that was like how many years ago 30 years ago so so that there is that that cellular memory that you can't avoid and you know shelters ours is saying that we need to detoxify we need to clear that out and realize that part of that detoxification is learning the lesson and moving on and I think that's that's really important I want to cover one other interesting point on this one because I think in this series this is the first time we really raised the possibility or the concept that life is circular and and it's kind of interesting to say that give me your thoughts on life being circular we did talk about moving above the fourth dimension which was time which was linear but now we're talking about an alternative to linearity and that's the circular nature of life is it something that makes any sense to you is it just an abstract concept or what's your what are your feelings and thoughts on that well I guess it's its most basic level you know the they you know they say we you know we come into the world knowing everything but not having the ability to understand and articulate it and we we grow and we learn and we become adult humans and as we round that that peak or start coming back down on the other side you know our bodies tend to start to return back to the tomorrow of an infantile state and all that knowledge that we're told that we have upon coming in you know incarnated on this planet now we're consciously aware of it and we can articulate it and so it seems like you know if that that's a big circle right mm-hmm yeah just like you know just like the seasons of the year and and and it's interesting because in the message we talked about a while ago moving above the fourth dimension you know they're talking to us about letting go of the linearity but now this message and in a number of messages from shelters are they put forward that alternative to linearity right I mean they you know they say in the higher realms that's infinity there is no beginning there is no end well you know how does that circular nature of life come in you know as the soul and the spirit we we incarnate we live a lifetime we go back to where we came and then we go and do it again so one thing that that I would recommend to two listeners is is let your mind wander a little bit to think of the examples of circularity in life it it's a difficult concept to just sort of say life is circular when we live in this in this linear four-dimensional world but if you can see smaller examples like you gave then maybe you can start to understand it and and it's important to understand the circular nature of life in a nonlinear way because you try to if you try to listen if you try to figure it out in a linear way you're back to linearity but it's it's kind of neat shelters are has referred in some recent channeling says that the law of cycles just like you know we have new moons and full moons and and the tides have cycles and and and the seasons there are lots of examples of cycles and so if you are to get a better sense of this and why maybe because life becomes a little less onerous if you realize that there are cycles that you know those cycles may appear in layers of learning and and it's like oh god if you know I thought I solved that problem it's back again it's like oh okay that here I am on the circle again this is right where I am so I think you know the purpose of them telling us is to ease some of our suffering and ease some of our frustration mm-hmm any any big takeaway from this one I mean how you know did anything you read or listen to mmm is it gonna change your life in in in a big way um they all of the messages tend to change my life in a big way I think that they all give me some something to pause and reflect on I think the biggest you know the the biggest thing that that hit me when I first listened to the message you know quite a while ago and first read it and then which resurfaced for me again was the idea that that how you react to what comes your way dictates the next thing that comes your way and that was really kind of a sobering whoa moment for me like all the literature talks about you know how we create our own reality and and we we are consciously or unconsciously creating what we bring into our life that really kind of stopped me and I just have to think about that you know that my bad reaction to something that comes my way or my my resistant reaction to something that comes my way is gonna bring me another opportunity to test my reaction and I know that I've tuned into that more I notice it happening computers are a great example you know as soon as I get frustrated with something that's happening on a computer everything starts frustrating me with the computer you know it won't die things won't click things won't open things won't stop you know I can't I can't get the keys to work and so I gotta go okay all right take a step back take a breath and acknowledge that I've learned that lesson that I have to you know be patient and then everything works fine so I mean it's that kind of a process you know I when after I ask these questions sometimes they say gee my really being hard on mark putting them on the spot but every time I ask you one of those tough questions you come up with a with a brilliant answer that helps us really dissect the wisdom and drive home the teaching you are absolutely right it's so interesting therein ties to the circular nature every time you react to the computer the way you do with your frustration you tend to get the same result and that is the circularity so so those two concepts of how we react and the circularity tie in because when you stop reacting the same way you will stop attracting to you that which you don't want in your life so it's really really important you you you you picked the essence of this message and that's it's time to become conscious it's time to wake up it's time to stop reacting the way we do and and I know we're running out of time but about listening to this message and then reading an article that that you wrote that I'm going to be posting about the current situation with with with racism just made me realize that we as a society have been reacting the same way with regard to discrimination and racism over and over and over again for hundreds of years and so this this circular nature of life applies to the collective consciousness as well when we wake up as a humanity and start handling our reaction to other people in a different way then we will have an opportunity to live more harmoniously and in peace so not only is this circular nature apply to our individual life it also applies to the collective consciousness and as we change the whole changes so some of the current problems we're having in the uprisings you and I talked about it before you know we got on no it was someone else sorry I was talking this morning about the 60s and and how you know these riots and these the you know that the race relations they were there in the 60s and here we are what is it 60 years later and we still have that issue we're still on that circle and we have an opportunity to change it by reacting differently and so hopefully this conversation the article you wrote and these continued conversations will inspire people to react differently so we can create a different world every wonderful excellent we've run out of time thank you so much mark again I really really enjoy doing these things with you and I hope the listeners will tune in to dissecting the wisdom of Shaltazar with Mark Lane and Jeffrey Eisen join us again next time everyone see you next time take care love and light to you all

Reviews

That channelling was actually the first one I've ever heard from you. Back then I wasn't even sure what channeling was I just knew the words resonated. If I could use one word to describe that channeling it would be "timeless". But then again so is all advice from spirit. Thank you. 🙏🏾

ps not sure why everytime I comment it looks like it doubles up lol