Wholistic Healing And Health With Magic Barclay

Magic Barclay is not an Ultrastar hybrid NBA player combining the rebounding acumen of Charles Barkley and the MVP assists of Magic Johnson. She is however a very keen and intrepid wholistic practitioner of the health and healing arts and sciences. Disclaimer: I'm not a medical professional, nor is what I say health advice, and merely for informational purposes.

On August 19, 2023, we got pretty deep into exploring: relief and/vs root of ill health; the PNEI of trauma; kids' health and independence; pesticides and gluten; why there may be so many autoimmune diseases now; various levels of the immune system; living in fear and toxicity; child rearing and parental wisdom; mold toxicity, causes and best practices; briefing on lymphatic system health; the importance of what we do now going forward outweighing the past.

Transcript

Hold us and welcome.

This is Josh of integrating presence.

And today I have magic Barclay with me magic.

How's it going today?

Yeah,

Really good.

And I'm so glad to be here People are familiar with this I usually throw it back to you and this is no exception to introduce yourself And if you could I'm curious about that name,

I'm sure you get the comments quite a bit would be my guess You know this word magic as a first name So who's magic Barclay and and what does she she I guess do yeah yeah,

Magic Barclay is a mom and a business owner and a practitioner and an avid permaculture gardener a mom of cats,

But most of all magic is a person who had to find herself and I guess that was a big part of my journey in my health and Continues to be so with it such a world that's gone crazy is Really knowing who I am and something my grandfather said once was I named you magic for a reason live up to it And so I just remind myself of that when you know I just feel like I'm not quite grabbing that spark of life and I'm not present in life Remember what he said and I try and live up to my name Your work though.

And now what what kind of work do you do?

I know you do other things besides just domestic type things,

Right?

Would that be fair to say?

Yeah Very true.

So I'm the lead practitioner.

So we're a small group of practitioners.

We use herbs.

We use essential oils We use some supplementation,

But what we do is we treat root cause of illness so we're usually the last port of call when people are seen all the medical professionals and The naturopaths and the whoever else they've seen and they've been chasing symptoms for a while We don't do that.

We take the symptoms into account because they're whispers of the body But we really do go after root cause and make all the systems make sense to people So,

You know something that I've been told so many times is no system works alone And the body has no reason to make any sense to you whatsoever we're the ones that help you understand exactly what your body's doing and Comprehend the pathways around changing it.

Oh,

Very cool.

So let's jump into this Relief and getting to the root.

What's what's the difference?

Because most I would say Western medicine is kind of focused on relief and treating symptoms I pretty sure most people that would be listening to this are already up on that So you can go into that and how do you get to the root of things?

What do you do that might be different or or just in general what other kind of more holistic?

Practitioners do in general to really get to the root of I guess illness if that's the right word to use Yeah,

Look,

There's a lot of questions wrapped up into one.

Let's take this step by step So what is the difference between relief and root cause if you chase symptoms and just seek relief From those symptoms you're not addressing what has caused them hence root cause when we look at root cause Another part of your question.

What is that?

It's looking through the history It's not just what happened in the past 10 minutes 10 hours 10 days,

Whatever It's what happened in your whole lifetime What happened before you were born what happened when you were born happened during your childhood what happened during your teens Every little step will add up and you know more often than not when we're doing our free call Which is our root cause analysis?

I'll ask people,

You know,

They've got 37 pages of history They give me a 37 page questionnaire is what they get and I'll say but what happened between this year and this year They're like nothing yes,

Something happened because this is what happened there and then this is what happened there and there's gap and so I'll Suggest things and I've got oh,

That's right you know,

I did get a cold sore or I did have a UTI or I Wasn't well that year,

You know,

So I'll know what's in those gaps and that's because I'm looking at the I guess The synchronicity of the body and how it's all working and that history will tell me what's needed so what differs between us and allopathic medicine and and some natural therapies is That we're working holistically now that's holistically with a W and As is our name and that is because we're treating with holism So holism versus reductionism many professionals treat with reductionism if I just reduce These symptoms to being that possible cause or that possible organ or that possible pathway Therefore I should be able to fix it.

Holism is the opposite.

It is.

Okay.

Here's the symptoms that you've come with Here's the organ that that comes from.

Here's the pathway that comes from but what is working behind that?

What is working with that?

So holism is treating the body as a whole all 13 systems including your limbic system,

Which is your emotional center of your brain and Reductionism is saying well,

That's a liver problem.

So let's just treat the liver So there's a difference between that.

I hope I answered all of those bits of the question Very yes you did So,

I guess the next thing it seems like to me it seems like there's two major Divisions or categories in this it's what's coming from the external the environmental factors either be it people I Know you're big into mold.

It looks like I mean it should say,

You know Addressing mold and how to get rid of it,

Which I would like to ask you about All these different environmental factors be it poisons in the environment maybe even toxic people and Then there's the the other side would be internally like how are we viewing what's happening to us?

And how are we responding?

What is the narrative we tell ourselves,

You know,

How do we show ourselves self-care?

Mentally emotionally Maybe even psychically Yeah How how how we're feeling inside and and how we respond to that in the relationship we have With both the internal and the external.

Um,

Do you do you find it helpful to look at things this way?

And then also there's um,

You know Sometimes these lines get blurred too,

Right?

Sometimes maybe it might make more sense to draw these distinctions and sometimes maybe not when we're looking at toxins when we're looking at chemical reactions We can in science call them exogenous or endogenous So one is outside one is inside and when we're looking at a cellular level this also happens.

So we have Intracellular which is between the cells or extracellular.

So from outside the cells we have this with hormones and With well pretty much anything so we can have self and non-self and this also relates to our thoughts and our feelings And you know what we make things mean So a self factor is of yourself a non self factor is be pathogenic It could be someone else's Fears put upon you it could be you know family history from your mother your grandmother Great-grandmother and you've never met them and all of a sudden you've got that Internal history that internal dialogue.

So right through science we see this pretty much we're from within and from without and you know when we're only treating one we can really cause more problems because One will affect the other and you know that one will affect vice versa So we have to look holistically at everything whether it be at a cellular level at an emotional level spiritual level physical level external level like absolutely everything and sometimes yes one can sway the other and Sometimes they can have a knock-on effect.

So,

You know little things like I Don't know.

I've addressed my dislike for People wearing blue for example,

I don't know where it's come from,

But I've worked on that This is just an example and you know,

I don't I don't know anything past that But am I looking at why I dislike people wearing blue?

No,

Where's that come from?

Is it coming from a fear?

Is it coming from a memory?

Is it coming from an inherited fear or memory?

Is it coming from when I ate something I had an allergic reaction as someone wearing blue walk past me Was I wearing blue if I ate something that I had an allergic reaction or maybe I got stung by a bee Like the body and the mind is so complex that we just can't discount in any part of that really Yeah,

And the mind is very powerful and can be very subtle as well And it seems everything happens in the mind before it it gets into the physical world So yeah of utmost importance here now one of the things I see That all my kind of spiritual karate moves don't don't really work on is trauma And I mean if we just have a human form We've experienced some kind of trauma,

You know,

And then it just goes up from there Some people have really severe trauma and then there's other people who can look at someone else and say well,

That's not very traumatic But for the the other person it can be very traumatic.

So you talk about on your site the P in Ei of trauma.

Could you mention what that is?

And then just about trauma in general because I feel it's really of utmost importance I Mean,

Yeah,

Especially now maybe maybe for all time I don't know and and especially when we're working with the body how important the body is when it comes to working with trauma Sure.

So what the PNE is is the psycho neuro endo immunology of trauma?

Now I read about this when I was reading when the body says no by dr Gabbo matte and he mentioned it and I thought well,

This is really interesting I need to you know Deep dive research into this and it led me to actually write a practitioner's course about this and I'm going to give you an example and that is you know,

Maybe one of your listeners has Been told one day they need to talk to 35,

000 people Okay,

They don't like talking to 35,

000 people.

They've told themselves that so the P is Something bad is going to happen.

You can't do this.

You shouldn't do this.

Don't do this Now this could be stemming from maybe they were you know in Grade school elementary school and they went to give a talk in front of the class and someone I don't know Threw a spitball at them or something.

Like it could be just something really simple Could be when they were maybe three and they wanted to speak up and they were told be quiet sit down You're three we're not listening to you could be something had absolutely nothing to do with what they're doing now professionally and you know here they are been asked to give it a talk to 35,

000 people and so all these thoughts and feelings and emotions come up.

So this is the P.

This is your psychosis This is all of your brain trying to keep you safe Now you really want to do this talk.

It's a really big deal.

So you ignore the psycho and N comes in the neuro you start to get like tingly fingers or maybe can't feel your feet or Maybe start getting back pain or knee pain or you know something and you think what's going on?

Well,

This is your nervous system Trying to slow you down to keep you safe.

Don't give the talk or you won't be safe Okay,

But you ignore that because this is a big deal And this can all happen in a matter of minutes by the way,

Then the E comes in this is your endocrine system So this is when you start feeling,

You know hot and sweaty and clammy.

You might feel dizzy might feel nauseous and This is your endocrine system trying to keep you safe by giving you a rush of hormones or a rush of adrenaline or you know any chemical rush to try and Stop you from giving the talk Now remember this could be stemming from something really simple and many many years ago Okay,

And then it comes the day of the talk and you wake up and you've got no voice Or maybe your nose is running your eyes are puffy.

Maybe your skin's itchy and you just you know,

Can't stop scratching you get hives Maybe you just get out of breath like exercise induced asthma kind of deal Maybe anything like that is happening.

And this is the eye.

This is the immune system jumping in so the immune systems Listen to what the the brain has said Listen to what the nervous system has said listen to what the endocrine system has said now it's saying you must be safe I'm not going to let you go on stage because We have to keep you alive.

This is a threat to your survival Now if you push through that and you've dealt with all of that Not saying ignore it but dealt with all of that over the time and spent this time on healing this pathway won't kick in but if you haven't then that I The big dog on a block is going to stop you and you are not going to be able to give that talk Or if you do you'll be clearing your throat every five seconds grabbing for the water bottle eyes running nose running out of breath Whatever it is and you know,

This is all to keep you safe So the PNEI system is an amazing pathway to set of some of the biggest Systems of the body that we have and all they're doing is keeping you safe Now I mentioned this could come from something as simple as an offhand comment when you were three Could come from something in grade school.

It could come from maybe you gave a talk in high school I'm not sure what that is over in the US But you know,

It could be something that you may mean something and so that's stuck with you It could even be perceived.

No one said anything No one did anything,

But you thought it was something and that fear could have been stemming as I said earlier From something that's not even yours.

It could be something as your mother's or your grandmother's You know anything because as you are forming in utero,

You are getting all these experiences You're getting all these downloads from previous generations.

So this is why this system is so important Well,

That's beautiful and very helpful So,

How do you?

Suggest people work with this and yeah,

It seems obvious to me that that system is honored like you stress very clearly and Effectively that that is there for safety not to throw us off keel and prevent us from doing anything We're meant to be doing right?

It's there for our safety.

And so yeah,

How do people meet this and address this and work?

Work with this work work on it.

Yeah,

What what's the response here?

Look,

The first thing you have to do is honor your memories your thoughts your feelings your assumptions your implications whatever you want to call it and Don't ever throw away Your gut instinct or something your body's telling you I'm not saying run in fear from what your body's telling you what your brain's telling you and it's coming from somewhere We don't make these things up.

You know,

It's come from somewhere address that I for many many years felt like a second-class citizen in my family in fact till very recently and I'm in my 50s now and You know something it really affected my whole life and it wasn't until I actually faced my mother and I said hey This is what I remember.

This is what happened.

She had no memory of it because it didn't mean anything to her But she acknowledged.

Okay.

I think maybe you know,

You've you've been hung up on this all your life It's tripped you up in several places.

Maybe it's real And so then I did some work on myself with that and I went why is this still affecting me now?

What is it and it is because I didn't feel safe when I was young so really look at why you feel things why you think things that P is so important and Just to give you an idea.

We actually have three parts of our brain So we have at the base of our our brain is our reptilian brain Okay,

This is where Everything's get is scanning everything every second of our lives.

So I'm sitting here my office now talking to you I've got bookshelves over on the walls behind opposite me and behind me and My brain my reptilian brain is thinking what if those books fly off the shelves?

What if the shelves fall on her?

What if the microphone blows up?

What if the computer blows up like something could happen?

Is this safe?

So it's constantly scanning every moment.

It's scanning the room temperature It's scanning any fumes that might be in a room and we don't realize this is doing it.

It's doing it at a very Unconscious level.

Okay That I guess interprets our gut instinct.

So,

You know,

Sometimes just get that feeling don't shake that person's hand Don't walk across the street.

Don't do something.

It's not safe That's our reptilian brain Now the reptilian brain and feeds information to the central part of our brain called the limbic system This is where thoughts feelings and emotions come through and I mentioned this earlier So this is really the driving factor of that P the psycho from PNEI and this is where something's happened Maybe it doesn't feel safe maybe our body is just giving us the tingles and the shakes when we see a certain person like don't go near them and We make it mean something now doesn't stop there goes to the third part of the brain,

Which is the logical brain this is where we make the hypothesis about the safety basis and about the emotional basis and that might be Let's go back to the person,

You know Sometimes you get like the hairs stand up on the back of your neck when you meet someone,

You know I I don't want to like them.

I don't know what it is.

I just I don't want to be near them So the the logical brain then says well you didn't feel safe your brain didn't feel safe and now it's telling you You're not going to like them and there's a reason I don't know what it is,

But you're not going to It's now going to make this Logical leap to say that person is going to be bad for me There doesn't have to be evidence right now,

But there will be evidence So therefore I'm going to avoid them now imagine seeing that person over and over and over you are now gathering that evidence that logical brain said that you would and That person does one thing wrong and you're like that.

I knew it.

That's it.

There's that Evidence I was looking for Reptilian brain was right limbic brain was right now logical brain has just sealed the deal And so it's really important to comprehend that the brain is so complex But the thoughts and the logic and the feeling of safety That doesn't stop there that transfers to the rest of our body so maybe you see that person ten years down the track and all of a sudden you get a hot flash and You're like a shit endocrine system coming and going remember we've been through this that person's unsafe Doesn't matter what they say.

It could be hello and all of a sudden you're like,

You know,

I can't be around this person or Maybe you your knee starts giving out.

Okay,

That's the end coming in Maybe you just get all phlegmy in the throat Okay,

And this is the eye again.

So the PNE is kicking back in to keep you safe All right,

Very helpful now this makes me wonder about now how we usually think about the immune system Let's just talk about the immune system in general.

Do you have any tips on how to?

Keep it well balanced What is a healthy immune system and how to get it that way and how you address that as well?

And maybe how that's relevant to what you just mentioned Using that lens you just talked about how does that affect how people normally think about the immune system,

I guess Well,

The immune system is a whole nother subject in itself but just briefly there's five parts of the immune system that we know of at the moment and there's more being studied and So the first one is your innate immune system Now this is the one that you're born with this is also comprising all of your barriers So it's your blood-brain barrier your skin barrier your digestive system It's your gut lining.

There's a whole lot going on there now These are all parts of your body that came from the same line of cells called the embryonic line So before you were a fetus you were a line of cells and that was the embryonic embryonic line They start scattering out to make all these different parts of our body They now make up your innate immune system They've got a few days when you come across a pathogen or something like that for the innate to work This looks like a head cold,

For example Three days you are full up in the head.

You absolutely feel like death warmed up But then you're out of the penalty box a few days later and everything's fine again Now if the innate immune system cannot handle what's coming its way it calls in the acquired immune system and So the first one you sit at is known as t-regulation or th3 Now imagine a conductor with his batons.

Okay,

This is th3 so what happens is You get a pathogen Right and you go to th1 Th1 is catabolic.

It breaks things down.

It's breaking down that pathogen and It breaks down collagen and it breaks down muscle tissue so if you get stuck there what this is going to look like is You've got you know a torn hamstring all the time or lots of wrinkles before your time Something like that will happen.

You seem to always be fighting a Pathogen now we want to go there and not get stuck there.

So getting stuck there.

I've just mentioned What does healthy going to th1 looks look like it looks like the flu When your body is flueing flu is not something you can catch when your body is flueing It is trying to get rid of a toxicity now that could be endogenous or exogenous okay,

We mentioned it earlier so from inside or from with outside and So your body goes to th1 to get rid of this then you bunk jump back to th3 so mr.

Neutral,

Right and then say ladies you get pregnant off to th2 you go and Maybe you get a parasite off to th2 you go or maybe You have one of those V words and I'm not going to say it Off to th2 you go and the reason is all these things drive th2 which is anabolic building and nurturing Let's look at the V word if You inject something into your body and you don't go to th2,

But you go to th1 you're going to wipe it out straightaway If you contract a parasite and you don't go to th2,

But you go to th1 you're gonna kill the parasite straightaway Alright,

So the parasite itself will drive th2 so it can live in the host now a pregnancy will do this too,

So you're supposed to go to th2 when you're a pregnancy and If you don't you'll miscarry so th1 people ladies stuck in th1 Really struggle with pregnancy babies that go to th2 as they're supposed to in nurturing the baby They're nurturing that fetus Okay,

But then we're supposed to drop jump jump back.

Sorry,

Excuse me jump back to th3 We're back at the conductor and the final immune type is called th17 Now this is very much like th1 it's catabolic it breaks things down Now it's breaking down the innate immune system.

So it's breaking down your skin barrier.

It's looks like eczema and psoriasis It's breaking down your gut lining.

It looks like Crohn's It's breaking down your blood-brain barrier.

So it starts looking like MS Parkinson's Alzheimer's so that is a very nasty system to be stuck in the Before you get to all those nasty diseases It might look like exercise induced asthma delayed onset allergies really bad.

Hay fever hives light eczema,

So there's always warning signs,

But what you really want to be doing is Nurturing your innate immune system and mr Conductor th3 t regulation so that that can send you to these other systems without getting stuck Because once you're stuck you now have autoimmune so Mentioned the immune system was pretty amazing and complex and it is in answer to your question How do you nurture an immune system?

You have to listen to your body.

You have to go.

I have an allergy That's a th2 Symptom,

Why am I getting stuck there?

I'm constantly sick muscle tears aches pains That's a th1 symptom.

Why am I getting stuck there?

I'm now getting delayed onset allergies.

I could you know,

Eat beef before and now I can't eat it Why am I getting stuck there?

So it's always the why the root cause that's just so important And you mentioned this towards the end there about autoimmune diseases.

Isn't there kind of an explosion within the past?

I don't know how many what 5 10 20 30 years of autoimmune Is there anything you can say to that why that might be is there any kind of general Information you can give people to to address these Yeah,

Look the main things I can say is we are a very toxic society Very very toxic if you look at every other species on earth Humans are the only ones that are poisoning themselves The others all know don't eat that I'm gonna get sick don't go near that I'm gonna get sick don't Be a bad animal.

I'm going to probably get killed by another one.

Like we don't find these cues we're constantly hurting ourselves emotionally physically spiritually And we are the only species that's doing that.

I'm not saying other species don't get autoimmune But not to the extent that we do why is it exploding we are in such a toxic society I live in a very low tox home we don't use any chemicals that we have Wi-Fi and I have lights on at the moment and You know what?

We have lights on in the house because we don't always go to bed at sundown Those things alone are toxic You find a lot of you know,

These indigenous tribes and things like that and Explorers have gone to see them and there's nothing wrong with them Even when they're 80 they look like we do when we're 30 Just because they don't have all this toxic stuff around them and they don't have toxic thoughts You know,

They whenever fighting the tribe they go and get this beers or whatever and they fight it out and it's over Then they sit down to a meal together You know,

They respect each other and they respect themselves We don't do that.

And so over the years we've become a fear-based society We've listened to our mainstream media we've gone running from wars and you know viruses and What is it now fires and there's all sorts of things.

It's insert fear porn here But it could be anything from one moment to the next there's a lot of memes going around on social media It's like oh,

I've got my war flags up.

Hang on.

I thought we were still on that disease,

You know So there's a lot of jokes coming out about it now,

But they couldn't be further from the truth We have exploded with autoimmune because we live in fear and we live in toxicity and I'm not bagging Anyone's life out there.

Like I said,

You know I I have Wi-Fi and I'm sitting here lights on at the moment talking to you,

But We really have to look at balance and that is what is missing Once we balance our lives and balance our thoughts and balance our emotions balance the time between work and spending with loved ones or Playing with our pets or walking barefoot in our gardens once we find some balance Balance our thoughts about ourselves.

We're always going to have those moments as humans of beating ourselves up I did it right before this had to rush and put some makeup on because I saw myself in the camera and You know,

So we all have these moments But unless we find that balance autoimmune is going to keep rising because we are just punishing ourselves without removing the irritant the toxicity the thought the emotion that whatever it is Very good points.

I couldn't really agree more.

I might add to that Even if we think some of these steps are overwhelming We don't have to do it all at once Every little tiny step and choice can add up to make a difference drop by drop of water buckets filled I mean it started for me with just having my device or devices at some point outside my room when I go to sleep You could still hear it ring if you needed it or anything like that They're shielding devices,

What do we really need and can we limit it?

I mean if we're limiting it just for five minutes a day that will add up over time now.

I told my Friends who have two small children I wanted to ask you about some of the things that they're up against with their kids health I guess their son is about maybe five or six and they've got him on a gluten-free Diet and that seems to help a lot of his the food allergy He has is like his nose will run when he's not eating a lot of times Gluten-free,

Although I think what she said recently was that it has started doing that sometime Same way with eating corn and corn syrup and I know that a lot There's a lot of GMO corn in the United States.

I don't and I wonder though if it does with non GMO corn,

Too Also,

It seems he does this with processed food too and this just seems Really obvious to me that processed food can cause that but we're wondering about This thing we dealt with the last couple few years if if any of that would play into this The other thing she asked too was at what age do?

Kids start having more independence where they need to have less attention and Like just I guess basic child rearing if there's any different markers of ages on parental behavior When I was raising my children,

I I was the penultimate Helicopter mom wouldn't let him do a thing because I had to do it for them to get it Right to make sure they had the benefit of it all that kind of thing.

And then I came across Montessori and so from Preschool my two were in Montessori and it's very child led.

So at Montessori My little one who couldn't even walk,

You know,

He was in a walking frame.

You had a lot of health issues They parked him at the table in the toddler room and they gave him a knife and an orange and they said this is how you cut an orange and I Freaked out you're giving my two and a half year old a knife like what the bleep,

You know Helicopter mommy that I've got to do everything that could be possibly dangerous and I watched for a little while and he looked at the knife and he looked at the orange and he watched the teacher cut it and he went I know how to Do that and so she said to him look at the orange and look at how there's faint lines Okay,

So he's a little toddler,

But he can understand English There's faint lines and first she got her thumbs in one and she pulled it apart and showed him that it comes in four segments Then she gave him the knife and he cut down the lines lines that as adults we tend not to see But these kids can pick it up Right because they're not poisoned by our fears now thoughts and all that kind of thing too much yet So he cuts his orange and then she said okay show me,

You know,

Give me the knife and She showed him with someone else first.

Give me the knife and they Gave her the handle first and then he did he copied and then she said now enjoy your orange Tell me what color it is.

What does it taste like?

What does it feel like pull it apart?

Taste the pith taste the peel tell me about it.

And so I was watching this really child-led Education happening and I realized Me running around like helicopter.

Mommy for the past few years has not helped him at all I'm shielding him from learning Maybe he I should have let him crawl into the backyard need a bunch of dirt and he would have gone.

Hmm That's not so nice.

I don't want to do that again.

But no I would run like oh my god He's about to put his hands in the dirt.

He's gonna put them in his mouth.

So with parenting it's very much I'm not saying,

You know hands off and let the kids do whatever But allow them to learn and allow them to feel and allow them to express what they're learning and feeling Allow them to observe as parent you are the biggest role model your child will ever have So make sure you're a good one Give them something to observe and something to enjoy and learn from because they're going to end up teaching their kids the next thing Okay,

So there's part of that back to the gluten issue Gluten is never a gluten problem.

I have to say it's a toxicity problem Now if you look at glutinous materials,

They are the most pesticide sprayed crops Okay,

They are the most GMO crops So if we go back to when I was a child 70s and 80s if you'd said gluten was bad people would have just laughed you out of town Because things weren't as toxic as they are now.

I have a few clients They live in the wheat belt here in Australia and there are a few new clients and I'm doing my liver Functional liver and lifestyle detox program with them.

And the first thing I said was I can't guarantee anything because of where you live Not that I guarantee anything,

But I said whilst we're coming into end of winter start of spring All the crops are being sprayed.

You're inhaling that even if you don't eat from those crops you're inhaling it You're absorbing it particles in the air and I get them to tell me what's been happening on the farms around their houses and they're spraying nearly every Single day now,

This is wheat This is going to go into those glutinous products and all these people are going to tell me in the next few years how gluten intolerant they are It's not so much gluten.

It's the things that are binding to the gluten So for a little kid that's becoming gluten intolerant,

I would go on to all organic I would start growing your own things.

We grow an amazing Substance here called amaranth.

One of my sons bakes our bread We grow the amaranth.

It's never sprayed with anything.

It's got companion plants around it.

He Harvests it he grinds it and mills it and he bakes from it So we know that there's no pesticides apart from what's coming from the sky But there's no other intentional pesticides on it So the likelihood of it being bad for us is a lot less than if I bought a loaf of bread from the store So there's that Yet gluten intolerance has been on the rise and I would dare say it is a toxicity issue Not always a protein issue Gluten is a protein Going gluten-free doesn't always solve the problem first of all gluten-free products can taste terrible and they can be very hard to deal with but not always but they can and Your body will start to get used to those new grains and seeds and have a problem with those Again,

You're not addressing the root cause you're chasing the symptom and the response not the root cause Now when it comes to corn,

Yes a lot of it is GMO So what I would say to the listeners is corn is super easy to grow in spring and summer Absolutely fantastic great for kids to do it's part of the three sisters plant it with squash and beans and they'll all look after each other and What you want to do is find some heirloom non GMO seeds and grow your own corn Simple as that Yes,

And this is what I recommended from the beginning is all organic because I'm fairly energetically sensitive and living in the States in the Midwest I notice a huge difference to where I'm at now in Denmark where there's as far as I know there's very little GMO going on and the the organic stuff is fairly affordable and It's more plentiful.

I would say overall as far as the the The grocery stores here I notice a huge effect and just overall energetically as well and they have the blessing now of Being in a rural area and then they're starting to grow their own things,

Too And also they're into homeschooling and unschooling even this unschooling movement So I have to check back in and see how he's doing with with the diet I think the other thing I wanted to just touch on here.

I mentioned it at the beginning is the the mold thing different areas of the States more than others perhaps and in certain type of Environments.

What do people need to know about mold?

And then I also want to get into the lymphatic system because I don't think we've mentioned that and I feel that's worth Mentioning as well.

I mean these are huge topics here.

No problem.

Well,

Let's talk about mold first There are 37 known types of mold in the world They are not all bad mold is known as the great suppressor and the great survivor and It's used in modern medicine.

It's also used in warfare can be good can be bad Okay,

But it's known as the great suppressor because we mentioned those five immune types before They mean nothing when there's mold in play particularly black mold the worst of them Okay,

So it suppresses your immune system both levels innate and adaptive are required and So you can't have a proper immune response The mold is calling the shots now and it does that so it gets what it needs Now I mentioned parasites earlier.

They want to nurture They want to build up with the host.

They need a host to be alive to feed Mold is the opposite mold is a fungus.

Not all fungus are bad Mold is in its own kind of category and it doesn't care if the host is alive So we've all had a basket of apples at some point once maybe you've got,

You know Fingernail mark in it or something It's gone moldy if you leave that moldy apple in the basket of beautiful healthy crisp looking apples Before long the next one's gonna get moldy and the next one and the next one So once mold is finished with the original host it moves on to the next one it's a decomposer Okay,

So there's the distinction Why is mold so prevalent in some parts of the world?

Well,

I mentioned toxic homes before we also have airtight homes So here in Australia where I live that there's a big push to build these Beautiful pristine looking homes that are airtight Half the windows don't open.

We're taught keep your windows closed in the middle of winter like it is here You know,

You're gonna get cold reduce the airflow put the Reverse cycle air conditioning on or the ducted heating or whatever Have you know all this recirculated air not to mention we've got all the EMS from everything that's going on as well The radiation but that's flying around But we've got plumbing inside so there's gonna be condensation as I mentioned those heaters Condensation and we're sealing the homes.

So we're creating breeding grounds for mold and toxicity in our homes And so this is why it's so prevalent What do we do?

We look at the situation.

We see how long the person's been exposed to mold Are they still in a moldy situation?

First thing I say to people is great you moved house Did you take yourself and your pets and your kids and your furnishings and your clothes?

People say yes Congratulations,

You took the mold with you.

So mold doesn't need to stay in the house mold doesn't need to Be cut out of the wall bleached whatever.

It's still there.

It's still sporing You are only treating part of the problem So mold toxicity recovery is a very long program and It's very detailed and we have to cover every single part of the exposure,

The carrier All of that.

So there's mold in a nutshell.

There are certain foods that exacerbate a mold toxicity issue Some of those are things like peanuts Chocolate,

Coffee Why?

Because they are grown in hard pods,

Hard shells that if a bit of rain gets in while they're growing Gets moldy.

Guess what?

That's now in that bean So there are certain foods that do progress the issue Mushrooms can.

Some mushrooms can be medicinal and Fight mold,

But a lot of the others contribute to it.

It's a very complex issue there All right,

That's it's very helpful.

One quick follow-up.

They have to get rid of pretty much everything,

Right?

I mean like what what's practical and what's not when when addressing that?

I mean does everybody have to throw away their entire Wardrobe and buy something new or are there there certain treatments or what do you recommend just in a nutshell people do if they Do have that opportunity to move house and then and then what do they do during that time period if they have an issue with There are treatments that they can use.

So I work with a company called Sanair here in Australia They've produced some great natural Mold treatments.

I also use essential oils.

So I don't think I've got one with me,

But I actually have one that's called Mold Be Gone and it's a blend of essential oils that My team have made and they're four essential oils that when combined in certain ratios You diffuse them you can put them on topically.

These are safe to ingest as well and So we can fight mold from within you from around you and you know diffuse that in your wardrobe before you pack your clothes There's a simple thing Do you want to be going and buying new clothes?

The answer is no and the reason is first of all,

It's expensive and Second of all most new clothes.

In fact,

All new clothes are sprayed with fungicide before they're put on the shelves or in the bags or in the boxes or whatever and that happens because Materials can get damp Materials can harbor mold Right mold is a fungus So when you buy a new top or or whatever it is Wash it a few times before you wear it get the fungicide off it So,

Please don't go rushing out buying a new wardrobe and then put new clothes straight on because now you're just gonna toxify yourself There's also organic clothing too.

That's there's somewhat affordable.

There's I won't mention companies by name Give another shout out to Denmark have a national pastime almost of airing out So it's this notion of opening all the windows and doors to get rid of the excess humidity get the air Flowing in and I just noticed it seems easier to breathe,

Too If there's a little bit of natural airflow going in Okay.

So the other thing I mentioned was the lymphatic system.

I don't know much about it I know some practitioners use lymphatic draining What's the importance of this and what do you recommend if they have lymphatic issues and Just good lymphatic health in general the lymphatic system I love this system and I didn't even know about this system till I found out I had a problem with it and You know don't feel bad if you don't know what it is because in the USA,

I think it was back in 2015 a survey was done of all Doctors and nurses in the allopathic medicine model and I were asked,

You know what lymphatic system what it what it is what it does what it means and 0.

075% Knew about the lymphatic system.

So if you're going I've never heard of this before don't feel bad You're already ahead of a lot of people.

Okay,

So the lymphatic system is a collection of nodes junctions connectors and Vessels and this is known as the lymphatic system It's a system that sits just under your skin So I want you to imagine a set of earphones say for your your mobile phone Okay,

And they're the old ones with the wires because we don't want to be using air pods and that's whole nother Podcast in itself that radiation,

But these ones have wires now I don't know you Drop them and you get it stuck under something and one wire breaks Do the headphones work?

Yes,

Are they in?

Stereo,

No,

They're now mono,

But they're still working This is how your lymphatic and circulatory systems work together So where you have a vein or an artery you have a lymphatic Node or a vessel or a junction or a connector somewhere near it and they work together Like those two wires break one.

The other one's still going to work.

It's not going to work as well Wreck one like put a bump in it.

It's going to affect the next one.

Okay So this is how it works Now the difference between the circulatory system and the lymphatic system is the circulatory system has a pump and it's the heart The lymphatic system does not have a pump,

But you can move it by moving So going for a walk doesn't have to be a run It can just be a walk jumping on the spot on your toes Bouncing,

You know doing calf bouncing this can move it waving your arms around this can move it Doing light brushing on the skin doesn't have to be heavy.

This can move it Okay,

So there are a lot of things to move the lymphatic system Why is this important?

We mentioned toxicity earlier on in this podcast and a lymphatic system removes that Toxicity it removes the excess hormones the excess sugars the excess enzymes the excess everything fluid right Waste anything its job is to move that and circulate it till it can find a point to Help excrete it through the excretory system That could be sweating.

It could be peeing it could be pooping it could be Anything.

Okay breathing could be any way that we need to get rid of Waste,

But the lymphatic system is the transport system for that.

What happens when we have a surgery?

Or we have an injury is we can get a thing called lymphedema,

Which is what this is Post surgery lymphedema,

We can get lipoedema,

Which is fat deposits Could you know have a beautifully skinny arm and then you've got this like lump on it and you just don't know what it is It's not always a cyst.

It's not always a cancer Sometimes it's just a deposit of fat and if you have a lymphatic system,

That's not working It's depositing fat and you can have lipo lymphedema,

Which is both together,

Which is very nasty and So we really need to comprehend what it is that lymphatic system does it?

Transports waste How can you love your lymph?

You can be gentle with your body and it sounds really weird and kooky But pack yourself every now and then Go through I do this in the car a lot because I know that I'm blocked here So I will pack myself and drain it Anything from the collarbone up you want to drain down and anything from the collarbone down You want to drain up towards the heart and remember I said it doesn't have its own pump But it works right alongside the circulatory system and the heart is the pump for that So love your lymph be kind to yourself give yourself a pat every now and then not just on the back but everywhere and move your lymph Well,

Beautiful magic.

Thank you so much for your time today Is there any kind of message you'd like to leave folks with I just want to leave folks with first of all a phrase And you know,

I've had to learn about this myself We mentioned right at the outset who is magic and I said I had to do a lot of learning to find that out Your past mistakes do not define you.

Please remember that you are not What you did when you were a teenager you were not even what you did ten minutes ago Okay,

What you do now matters those steps forward really matter beautiful magic and May you all be blessed with the greatest optimal health For your own benefit and for the benefit of all beings everywhere.

May all beings everywhere Realize awakening and be free