Understanding Kundalini (Live Replay No. 12)

Understanding Kundalini Energy is very important in the Spiritual Journey. It will arise naturally in an Awareness based Meditation Practice: The Infinite Silence Meditation. It is an energy that is powerful beyond measure and requires care and respect. Important insights are shared and risks from misunderstanding are highlighted. A guided Infinite Silence Meditation is included and the fibre optic lamp image is a simple and powerful metaphor Philip uses for Self Realisation.

Transcript

So welcome everybody,

Philip Wade here from North Yorkshire,

England.

I'm here at the home of the Universal Studio and tonight's topic is something that actually to be honest was not by any stretch of the imagination any part of my focus on the journey of self-realization.

I was aware of it but didn't really pay much attention to the subject at all and it's actually Kundalini and you'll hear the term a lot in spiritual circles and communities and from what I've observed over the years of sharing the message of self-realization there can be quite a lot of misunderstanding around it and also maybe just a little bit too much focus on it and I'll explain why I think that's the case.

I observe that to be the case as we go on.

So what is Kundalini?

Well I just actually double-checked the etymology the root of the word earlier today comes from the Sanskrit and as an adjective it means annular or circular and I think it's as a noun it can mean serpent or snake and you'll often hear in reference to this energy,

In reference to the Kundalini arising,

It's often referred to as the Kundalini serpent.

The Kundalini serpent and it's an energy that will flow from through the body's chakras from the roof chakra up through the major chakra centers of which there are seven in that core line in the body,

Six in the body one just outside and it's an energy that arises through a deepening of awareness and the reference to the serpent may come from the word the Sanskrit word but also actually the energy itself and I've seen this in my own experience and felt it and seen but it's often represented as a coiled serpent you know like you see on chemists or pharmacists you can see sometimes snakes curled around a cross going up and there are two of them like a helix that's often how the Kundalini energy is represented the arising of it through the body's energy system.

So what is it?

Well it's actually the un- really it's the unmanifest energy coming into being and arising from the body from the infinite silence from the infinite consciousness that's what it is so that in one sense there's nothing strange about it is that being made manifest but the rising of that energy through the body's energy system through the physical body and through that what in the East are referred to as chakras which are like wheels of light is the translation of that is actually part very much part of the realization of the self and in fact as the realization of the self is integrated it also needs to be embodied and the body being a denser energy vehicle than the unmanifest world it takes time to integrate the arising of the deepening awareness and so for this reason it's something that's worth approaching with a little bit of care because it's a very very important sacred divine whatever type of energy you want to call it and it's also incredibly powerful very very powerful and just to give some kind of visual metaphor for it there's a reference to caduceus there and I think that's probably right but I'm not sure of the root of the word caduceus coming back to my trusty fiber optic lamp because I just to stress once again everything that I share here is from direct experience I'm not schooled in Eastern traditions although the word itself as I say is from the Sanskrit so that's the way it is with my sharing but if we were just to look at our trusty fiber optic lamp metaphor for the other metaphor for self-realization again and this is you the point of light here at the end the body-mind experience as you have it now the realization of the self and the meditative journey as I've said many times is all about actually looking down rather than outwards to the world and seeing separate beings and phenomena to coming down to recognizing universal beingness the state I am and then recognizing that even though that is a phenomena it's witnessed or seen ultimately from the infinite awareness or the infinite consciousness that I refer to as infinite silence because that's the term that it gave as the realization flowered here now if we were just to kind of just adapt this metaphor a little bit in terms of Kundalini and the Kundalini arising and its connection with self-realization let's just imagine that this fiber optic filament for a moment is your spine is your spine and the Kundalini is arising typically arises up through the base of the spine and up through the chakras and out through the crown chakra now because all of us have gone through considerable conditioning in our lives as I've talked about at length in the transmuting fear into love live stream and also the emotions and blocks live stream most people by far the majority of people when it are carrying a dense and heavy emotional body now this is important in the context of the Kundalini arising because that metaphorically speaking using this metaphor that emotional body is a little bit like blockages in these fiber optic filaments and it can have the effect of dimming the light almost it can almost feel like for people who in a very depressed state almost like their light has gone out you know and that's that's a function of the emotional body and the compression that it causes energetically and spiritually speaking and in this metaphor it would be like kind of blockages on if this was the spine of the body preventing almost the flow the natural flow of the arising of this energy and it can even be almost like a cog in the end here it can almost be like that using this as a metaphor now that's it that's important because as the energy arises and the purpose of the whole meditation journey and using many consistent meditation practice that's awareness based it's all about ultimately you coming to the realization of this infinite silence now a consistent meditation practice is going to bring about that typically although not always over a period of time and you may have periods of deeper and deeper awareness deeper seeings and it will gradually over time the layers of the onion so to speak the emotional body starts to get dissolved the emotional body nits is just a term I refer to and then an energetic body of the emotional trauma that's we actually embody within ourselves that has come about from the case of mistaken identity the belief that all I am is the body mind and this created as I've said at length on previous streams creates a sense of inner separation from the source upon which emotional trauma emotional experiences get built now a consistent meditative journey is all about deepening your awareness deepening your awareness and as part of that process you will start to also dissolve dissolve and resolve the emotional body yes it's exactly the same as Eckhart Tally's pain buddy what's Vicky think how do you overcome that filament that gets blocked Vicky that's what we discussed at length in I'm not sure if you were on the live stream I suspect you probably were the live stream where I talked about transmuting fear into love and the replay of that is now available as of today on my profile and insight timer so please for the fullest fullest answer to that one please go over that but ultimately but ultimately it's all through the power of awareness the recognition of this awareness and in that stream I talk I go through a very carefully guided exercise to start to get you to recognize that awareness that's already present for it's that awareness and that awareness alone that will create this transformation this transmutation of the emotional body now this is very important in the context of the Kundalini arising because the energy itself given that it's infinite is therefore infinitely powerful and there's it's it's not unsafe but it's because it's so powerful it can have some very very profound effects in your body I want to give you a little kind of metaphor for that power of this now in my previous life I was a chartered civil engineer and I remember well a power station being built not far from where Jolene lives in Wales and it's called the Norwig this power station now it's a hydro electric power station but it's a little bit different perhaps from your average a hydroelectric in that denoting was built by the National Grid the National Electricity Grid here in the UK for one specific purpose for one specific purpose and that was to be able to bring on extra electricity generation onto the National Grid incredibly short notice and so there's a reservoir I forget the name of it actually more or something or other above dinner week there's the pipes running down the mountainside in fact through the mountain I've been to Norwig in my early days as a civil engineer down to the turbine hall which obviously then generates the electricity now the Norwig was designed to be able to come online from nothing zero generation of power to full power and I was just checking this early this afternoon on Google and depending on which review you read anything from 12 16 seconds from from generating no electricity to 1,

730 megawatts of electricity in about 12 seconds 16 seconds that is incredibly fast and it's probably the fastest power station to come online in the world from what from my certainly was in its day and it probably still is now the reason I'm using that as an example in reference to Kundalini the arising of the Kundalini energy can be like that when it's triggered it can happen incredibly fast and incredibly powerfully now the reason I'm making references to these kind of blockages in the emotional body it's a little bit like it can be if not handled with care this energy it can be like turning on there on full power an electric current running through your body incredibly high voltage rushing through past and through all these energetic blockages coming to a completely different perspective on reality a deeper seeing in life that can completely to the to the unprepared to the unprepared a seeing of a reality that is beyond your wildest dreams and completely turn your world inside out and upside down and this can actually happen and has happened quite a lot to some people sometimes there can be a spontaneous spontaneous Kundalini awakening and what's typically happened in those cases that these are people who may not be have been on the spiritual path but in a lot of the cases that I've heard where this has happened what I've seen and witnessed is that there's been a very very dense emotional body a very very dense and heavy emotional body and they're very very deep in suffering now the self weight the small s self ego identity weight of that can get so heavy and so dense it's a bit like a nuclear bomb it implodes before it explodes there's an implosion inward and that in those cases that I've seen it's like this a degree of implosion a collapse of the identity a breakdown of the identity and what that has a tendency to do is create a crack in the identity identity and into that crack it's like this massive surge of energy suddenly flows and people can have the most profound seeing and experiences from this and it can actually be can be for them quite blissful for quite a period whether it be an hour two hours days or even weeks or whatever but what typically happens in those cases and I've seen this too much to not to comment on it is that because the emotional body has not been dissolved and that grime and grease and sushi they sort to some degree that cork is still there what happens is the bliss and power of that awakening that they've had can collapse in on itself and they go back into deep suffering deep identification and wonder what that what the hell happened if you can use that word what the heck happened to this incredible seeing that they had because suddenly they're back in suffering I know people who have had this experience also when this happens in an unexpected way and it can't and it's more frequent than you might imagine this by the way particularly in the West where some of the Eastern traditions are not well understood there are many cases where this has happened happened in a kind of spontaneous way typically in this very very dense emotional body state for people they they have this deep seeing and they start the whole world has changed and may start seeing things hearing inner messages and so forth and they report this to maybe friends family doctors and typically people think they're going off their rocker they're going mad when in truth what's actually happening is a profound spiritual awakening now in the East but if you're in somewhere like India it's likely that this would be recognized and understood and you'd likely be taken to the ashram of a truly realized master to help guide you through the part of this process what's happened too often that I've heard in the West and I've heard of cases of this in the UK is that people get taken into hospital and they get sectioned because they think the doctors think that there's something really weird going on and their family members may think this and so forth and they get put on all sorts of drugs and it can take a long time for people to come through that process because of the misunderstanding in the West in the West not just in the medical system but in the world generally I mean as a function of the reason it happens that way this is sudden arising and then collapse into suffering again is because of that emotional body that it's not been dissolved and I can see several people here of similar kinds of experience to this and I didn't want to mention it because I knew Jolene had but I wanted her to say that rather than me now now that Jolene's mentioned that I can say that and she will tell you this that the experience for her whilst initially blissful I'm sure she doesn't mind me saying so we did a full online interview about this came back to very very deep suffering and that was really not a pleasant state for it to be now for her to be in for quite a long period of time that eventually she moved through and beyond now the reason I'm sort of playing quite a lot of intention and emphasis on this is because this does happen and it happens quite frequently more than you might realize and this is another reason why a consistent meditation practice that's based rooted in awareness that you can recognize awareness know the how-to's of dissolving the emotional body which are discussed at length on transmuting fear into love and the emotions and block live streams with that kind of awareness and that kind of consistency of practice this arising in those situations is going to be a lot less troublesome but if one goes into this blind be like like it can comes up comes up on people by surprise I've heard so many cases of people take like years being taken out of their lives through this and that's why I always advise caution when it comes to Kundalini because the most effective way for the arising of the Kundalini is through a consistent meditation practice and spiritual inquiry because that will prepare you and prepare your body over a number of years it will also prepare the dissolution of the emotional body such that as that awareness can starts to deepen starts to deepen and the Kundalini energy arises it's not going to be nearly so troublesome it is still I need to emphasize this a very profound step from the arising through the physical body to finally to the crown chakra into the realization of the self and for this and it's probably almost for this reason alone why the guidance of a truly realized being in this in this situation and in this context is really important because it's like jumping off a cliff into an abyss of that as is infinite in its dimensions and completely losing one's idea of who one really is in this in this transition and in this transformation thus is the power of this energy so I always always always when it comes to reference to Kundalini I would advise care caution respect and rather than approaching it through trying to activate it or force it instead concentrate focus on the awareness based meditation the spiritual inquiry the whole livestream about who am I and this way you will your body will be gradually prepared the emotional body will be dissolving dissolving dissolving and as the awareness deepens and the time is ripe and the realization is ready to flower it's going to be wholly less troublesome and also also also also when it does it's much more likely to anchor and stay stable unlike the situation where perhaps people have been into deep suffering there's been an arising through a partial collapse of the identity and then going back into suffering for years so another reason for consistent awareness based meditation practice combined with spiritual inquiry combined with dissolving the emotional body is going to gradually prepare you for the deepest realization of life very very important this energy is not to be underestimated nor is it to be messed around with really and I'm saying this only from the highest interest I've seen too many cases of people being sectioned or having all sorts of trouble and suffering with this because unless you treat this with care and respect you could be heading for some serious challenges because they turn around the spontaneous turnaround from that deep suffering place those people I was talking about earlier through to the deepest seeing is such a vast change turning your world inside out it's no wonder that people in the shall we say normal domain in the West think that their friends family members or whatever are coming mad and the medical profession thinks that too as I say in the East particularly in India this would be completely understood and would be dealt with appropriately we're not there yet in the West interestingly from a couple of different sources I did a seminar with the scientific and medical network earlier this year and I just asked a question on that I didn't specify Kundalini to be fair on this but I asked how many people had had some profound spiritual experience and to my surprise I think it was around I think the figure was around 80% and then asked how many people truly understood what that showed them the answer surprisingly was much less I think it was probably only 40% something like that and that's why it's important to have some understanding of what this is about and when you're dealing with it it's not something I would advise going to directly meditation regular meditation awareness based meditation that will prepare your body and the dissolution of the emotional body for this is very very important and just even in my own case after 14 years of consistent meditation and certainly a number of very profound spiritual experiences as that deepest seeing arose this body felt like the universal grid was plugged into it even with that degree of consistency of meditation practice and a huge amount of dissolution of the emotional body as well and in fact the energy was so high that this body could almost couldn't sleep for two weeks it was so powerful I was okay and I remember asking in meditation what's going on and the seeing had arisen and the words I was given was this life is death life is death and instantly realized it wasn't the body that was dying what I was died in fact was the identification with the body mind that's who I really was and so this energy field I've been like plugged in to the universal grid lasted for about two weeks now to many people that would be a quite distressing experience fortunately I was a very very experienced meditator and also an experienced energy worker by that time so I realized and all the insight that was leading me to was just needed to go with it and in fact I was given a date that the process would come to an end and so trusted in that completely so I'm always a little bit cautious when people start talking about Kundalini because it's not my focus and it's not a focus I would recommend for you in as far as self-realization concerned the energy of Kundalini will arise naturally through your meditation practice through your awareness meditation practice and the preparation of the body and the dissolution of the emotional body you don't need to give any thought to is the Kundalini rising it will just happen when it's meant to I'm just gonna check a couple of the comments yeah yeah you're using Eastern terms there Tracy so I don't really know what they mean but yes it is correct it is the death of the identification with the personality and I'm glad that the explanation resonates for you awesome what's very thing there's a question in my mind about the difference between unwise egoic pursuit of a Kundalini experience and a spontaneous event yeah and this is exactly what I'm pointing at Vereena because again an observation that I've seen within spiritual communities across the world now there can be a mind based ego based pursuit of the Kundalini experience that and the blissful and feelings that can come with that now if that is your focus and goal I would advise you to think carefully and look within the silence of your heart as to whether that's really in your highest and greatest interest because as beautiful as those experiences can be typically they can be quite short-lived and if there's a heavy emotional body can actually cause more distress than their worth and as I say in the West have resulted in many people being sectioned so this most often I would say Vereena and your question is very pertinent is actually coming from the mind you see pursuing it in that way is like trying to jump from a to Z spiritually in one go without going through B C D E F and G and so forth and this is not a very clever strategy it's actually an unwise strategy much more effective is the consistency of an awareness based practice meditation practice spiritual inquiry the solution of the emotional body preparing the body's energy field and system and then the flowering and the arising will simply blossom when it's meant to so really the most spontaneous are at the rising will ultimately always be spontaneous it won't be because of something that you've done but in it's in the trying to force it is where some of the problems can arise and even in a very experienced meditator in a very experienced meditator one still needs to approach it with divinity sacredness caution because of for all the reasons I've explained I'm not trying to put people off here I'm just trying to point out there are a number of factors that need to be considered when considering looking at this it is far more effective far more effective to approach it from a meditative perspective the dissolution of an emotional body it's going to be a lot less troublesome a lot less troublesome let me just have a quick look so hopefully that answers your question Verena but if anything else you want to add to that please do tracing I meant the force energy known as prana travels up the pathway to the seventh chakra yes well indeed yeah it does Lucy saying she wouldn't recommend it either and I know from what Lucy shared before she had a similar experience to what I pointed out with Joe me Alan says I had some symptoms of Kundalini rising shaking tingly energy currents and I feel that I am one of those unwise persons you mentioned that had it raised without passing the necessary steps you know this is neither right nor wrong Alan it is what it is but it can lead to problems and the the such is the human mind it likes to go after experiences one of the things I see a lot of is pursuit of spiritual experiences you know whether it be blissful states and so forth beautiful visions and all the rest of it and all of these have a purpose and have a role to play but they're typically going after more and more of those is an ego pursuit rather than a calling from the heart you see the purpose of all these spiritual experiences indeed any spiritual experience is to invite you to go deeper into the recognition and realization of who you are so what's Alan just saying that I'm having a deep crisis now I'm sorry to hear that Alan and if you didn't watch the stream please do watch or listen to the transmuting fear into love live stream replay that's just gone on my profile because that will help you through that crisis listen to that one and shortly coming the emotions and blocks ones but that one in particular will help you bring you back to awareness and help you resolve and dissolve the crisis that is really a function that's arising from the emotional body and the identification as the body mind so really my pointing to you Alan is to look at listen to that one listen to it many times listen to it have a gap listen to it again have a gap listen to it again very very important very very important so hopefully that will help you initially Alan good good so do that because I don't recommend you just listen to these ones I listen to it maybe you know as many times as you need to and the reason for that is you've gone through so much conditioning so much conditioning that repetition repetition eventually you will start to see more deeply and what people tell me having listened to streams second third fourth fifth times is they hear something different every time and the reason they hear something different is that they're integrating more they're going deeper and suddenly the seeing gets deeper and it means more it's like that that's upward spiral just like the complete energy just want to see what arenas comment is that's just barely a moment oops sorry I know there it is I know Ruth is saying thank you for the explanation for the question from Verena I can see how this would be very appealing to pursue the ones you go exactly that it can be that and I really don't recommend it I really don't recommend it what's Jolene saying whoa sorry this is jumping about the comments here listening to them more and more as breaks in between two is very beneficial yeah have a break between them have a break between them because it gives you integration space Oh Alan started listening to you but I was interrupted so just keep going Alan at your own pace because awareness is the way through is the way through the crisis you know these crises can run very deep in the human experience and I only have great compassion for it what has happened has happened but the answer and the resolution is awareness what's Diana saying is my sign is a Scorpio and everyone says that Scorpio is a bad sign but I'm not rude I think well if anything if it's any what's the word support to you Diana my star sign is also scared Scorpio it doesn't it's not something I give much attention to yeah yeah I know I am classified as Scorpio but really it's neither good nor bad there's no such thing as good or bad as far as the absolute is concerned is concerned so you know all of this thinking about good and bad is all from the mind and it's simply not true as to who you are and so that's another thing not to get overly identified with my star sign is a Scorpio or I'm a Libra or whatever other Pisces really don't give it a second thought go with awareness go with awareness Nick says I don't see why I need a strategy for something I meditate for improving my life my inner being I don't aspire to any kind of Nirvana also from my understanding Kundalini is a very specific stream of spirituality while most spiritually content most spiritual content I'm exposed to it's not emphasized exactly it's I'm really with you on that final sentence the only reason I'm having a stream talking about it is to point out that really it is just too much focus on this too much focus on this from a place of misunderstanding and actually as you're saying the first part of what you're saying I'm also in agreement with you strategy goals as far as spiritual self-realization don't go together so like if you have this goal I'll be self-realized in 2022 that's not gonna work you can't make it into a goal and the reason you can't make it into a goal or a strategy is because that which you are seeking is in fact that which you already are that which you are seeking is that which you already are so it's about allowing whoops sorry I'm just trying to read the rest of this is come on so yes it is an aspect of spirituality correct nits and for me in my own journey yes I was aware of the word but it really got very little of my attention I knew the word but it's only since that flowering and all the issues that I've seen arising from it that I've decided that it was time to speak about it and clarify if only to prevent more people from misunderstanding and going down a route that actually is neither effective nor helpful to them so that's really why the purpose of this stream so whoops sorry I'm just trying to make sure I don't miss any other comments it's right maybe it's just my experience and that is not in my lexicon you know actually Nancy it sounds like where you're coming from it was pretty much the space I was in myself I mean I remember just to give you another example many years ago many years ago now as they wait as their realization was really beginning to blossom and come into being I remember getting this insight in meditation and it went like this God has invited me to his satsang God has invited me to his satsang now I didn't even know what the word satsang meant I'd heard of it but I didn't know what it meant and I had to look it up I was like oh wow that's that's quite a surprise so actually for me it was really helpful just to focus on meditation I wasn't trying to achieve anything I was simply just meditating as far as I could see the meditation was profoundly beneficial in remaining and staying calm and centered and that was really my focus it was only much later on that I started to find out about self-realization and things just naturally flowered from there without sort of some sort of endless pursuit of it so I think your approach is quite similar to where I was what's very nothing esoteric astrology might use labeling language but esoteric astrology would not I'm sure that's probably right yes I am a scorpion Tracy so Lucy says it helps a lot to people that means been searching for eight years for what happened to me and that's another reason why I'm doing this stream Lucy because prior to probably a year or two ago I would not have even mentioned the word but I started to think about it and I started to think about it and I started to see all of these issues and in fact many people have come to my events have had this some of the types of experiences that I'm referring to and it was quite a journey to help move them through and beyond this the kind of situation Alan's talking about to a much more stable place so this is for these reasons and more I felt it was important to include some commentary and some insight on this as part of this program because there is so much misunderstanding around it and so many issues around it particularly when it comes to the unprepared yeah exactly what I was talking about Lucy you know can happen to many people who consider themselves zero spiritual so Alan saying I agree with Lucy that helped me understand what was happening and announced the inevitable crisis that if it had not been announced and if I didn't know where it came from I would be thinking I was going down in a vortex of madness exactly and again for these types of reasons Alan it is so important that some insight is offered into the issues surrounding this energy because when it arises unexpectedly or is trying to be forced it can result in the kinds of problems that I've referred to and that's not really a place you want to be in I wouldn't want wish that upon anybody ultimately it might take years and you'll come out the other end of it but there's a more effective approach not a strategy just approach stick with your meditation stick with the spiritual inquiry see where your heart guides you follow that and hence the livestream trust your heart and then these things will start to emerge and flower naturally within you it doesn't need to be forced it really doesn't just like marinas question earlier there's a big difference between an egoic pursuit of something and the calling of the heart and the calling of the heart is the much higher one it will inspire you invite you and the ultimate conclusion of that is the realization of the self nits yeah you're welcome nits you've changed my life for it well I'm glad it's benefited you Lucy and the reason that it feels that way for you is because you're open inside and all I'm doing effort doing here is pointing out that which we already know within so if something is resonant with you if something is resonant with you it's because there's already an inner knowing and he's just coming up coming up to the surface Vicki's and I feel this is added to my toolbox of healing to deepen my awareness good I'm glad to hear that Vicki thank you for the donation Ruth I've just seen that and that just reminds me something I wanted to say about donations I read unexpectedly the other week I think it was about this this platform insight time on which at time which I'm very grateful for that they have turned down the opportunity to have I think it's about eight million dollars of revenue u.

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Dollars revenue from advertising and I think that's what a great decision that is because this is a completely distraction free platform they could generate eight million dollars more revenue a year if they had advertising and insight timer they don't do that which means that they rely upon the donations that come through to support the platform and the memberships as well so I just want to say thank you for in fights insight timer because having only recently done live streams on insight timer and live streamed in many other locations I just think it's brilliant the focus that you have here and the distraction free focus on spirituality meditation and so forth I just think he's so good important so thank you for the donations because it helps both insight timer and myself the donations are so important to keep insight timer going anyway so thank you for that strategies don't work with those crises they only subside when you're out of moves indeed in fact I'm not a fan of strategies generally when it comes to spirituality you'll see all sorts of reference to strategies in the self-help movement you know I'm probably we've all been there but while strategies are neither good nor bad or wrong nor right in the ultimate sense any practice like there is a strategy is only a stepping stone to awareness that's already present and so strategies aren't the answer realization is realization is I'm not saying the bad or wrong I'm just saying they're only stepping stones and eventually the ego mind does run out of moves and it is that that plane the realization blossoms or flowers or do you think I agree with talking in community about Kundalini experiences whoa that's just gone off the screen just need to open again often the yoga community shuns such ref whoops sorry I'm just interested with the rest of this come up every moment folks often yoga just finishes references to not fuel ego attachments but I found that violence leads to lots of misunderstandings yeah absolutely I would agree with that Audrey and that's why another reason why it's important for me to offer some insight on this I'm not in any of this by the way and not in tonight or any of the live streams inviting you to believe anything I say actually I'm inviting you to look deeply and realize the truth within and then you won't need belief did you hear what I said that inviting you to realize the truth within and then you won't need belief because it is before and beyond belief so I think I see a few comments there about insight timer and then yeah but when in pain your subconscious tries to desperately fix fix fix it does indeed Alan and that again for other reasons why I recommend you listen to that live stream again and again even those surrenders are sometimes faked so it stops yeah that's also true Alan that is also true and again another reason why it's helped very helpful for you to listen to that live stream and the emotions and blocks one when it comes but also go back over some of the earlier ones right from the beginning what it means to go within because each of these streams are lonely stand in their own right they build upon one another and so you can deepen your understanding yeah it's this ego running out of moves it's a bit like a chess game and eventually you know ego is forever looking for moves he's ducking and diving bobbing and weaving but awareness being infinite and seeing all of those moves will eventually checkmate ego and there will be no more moves and at that point this is when the blossoming takes place so again awareness being infinite infinite silence is always going to checkmate the identity it's only a matter of when not if only a matter of when not if and this can happen in this lifetime for you by following the calling of your heart by following the calling of your heart what's blossoms thing I love insight time a subscription I listen to some meditations offline asleep we are good I'm glad to hear that thank you for the donation from Solvay that's very much appreciated and this thing you can try to express your thing and just surrender indeed again just just go over those streams Alan they would be really really helpful to you you know all of the streams you know this whole program that's 13 streams in total and I'm not just saying this because it's me doing it but actually there's more than enough insight inspiration and information and approaches to the infinite silence meditation here to realize the self even in just one of them because all of it is coming from a space of awareness but together and collectively they're designed from this awareness to help support you and so they cover many different angles over many years of sharing this message and they're there for you to use so Ruth is saying has saved me and many others particularly during the pandemic these live streams are genius thank you very much for us I'm glad that you find that the case I was in yes nits but when I try there's only suffering is when I just can't any more that it vanishes yeah what you're pointing out there Alan is that it's this point of surrender really that the trying actually pushes it away the trying pushes it away the allowing which is actually the effortless and trusting the awareness is what brings the release and also brings the realization looking down to guest it says is it possible to die or permanently leave your body through the Kundalini or any spiritual method the short answer to that is yes I'm gonna just much talk about this in some of the Eastern traditions which again I need to stress I'm not schooled in and this is another reason for approaching it in a much more gentle way in terms of meditation meditation because let me reference it to my own the experience here I say my but it's not personal it's not personal but the realization what was as it is seen that there was no in this seeing and realization no sense of any personal identity not all no awareness of this body no awareness of an identity of Philip just infinite awareness and in that seeing it was also clear that it would actually be possible to just to completely let the body go at that point and in fact there are cases of realized being consciously choosing to do that now in this case here that wasn't resonant and it was like the body came back online and in fact checked that just out of interest since and it was clear that there was more about the awareness and the silence was seeking to express through this body there are cases where people having come to this space the body will be released and they will in the human terms die the awareness doesn't die but the body will so again it's important from the meditative journey perspective to approach this gently keep going with the inquiry keep going with the awareness based meditation and it's also for these kinds of reasons guest why if you like if there is a role for a spiritual guide it's to help you over this final threshold even if there's nothing before that it's to be a living pointing to that and to be able to help that transition that's an important role to help with that because it's probably the case that for most people without this kind of guidance it can almost be too much I'm not saying it's impossible because that's the way it happened here and it wasn't something I was particularly seeking that's the way it happened but if there is a role then one of the key ones is to be this living pointing to be this guide to be that anchor that can allow and help people take that what ultimately will be kind of like the ultimate leap of faith or the leap of trust into the knowing if that makes sense so the answer to your question is certainly possible and it's also possibly to consciously leave the body and in fact many a realized being has done that let me just catch up on the comments Philip I tried to translate realization many times to my language and I cannot really understand it would appreciate if you can try to explain this term and also when you say it's allowing what yeah okay yes I'm not sure what your native language is but I'll try to come at it from a couple of different angle a few different angles for you to help you capture that so when I'm using the term realization as in self realization capital S self realization what's eventually recognized this is a different word for realization now recognized is that that which you are seeking the infinite silence the infinite consciousness the infinite awareness is in fact that which you already are so the realization is a recognition of something that was always been here you could also use the word remembering nets oh yeah I infinite I am that and aha moment and oh my gosh moment that is universal in scale so different words for realization recognition remembering recollection of that which is you already are the infinite consciousness or infinite awareness so hopefully that gives you a few more angles on it knits you are already this and you simply remember that realize that allowing allowing what is one allowing is the allowing of that recognition that realizing to arise is a moving away it will be experienced as it will be more accurately it will be experienced as a moving away from identification as the body mind as the ego mind so that's why I use the term allowing but this allowing isn't a doing it's an allowing of that which is already present the infinite awareness the infinite consciousness to take should we say front and center stage currently in most people across most of the planet what's front and center stage is identity is ego mind the allowing is allowing the awareness to take front and center stage the identity has run out of moves it's checkmate and awareness now is front and center stage hopefully coming at it from those different angles helps clarify the translation a bit for you next but please let me know if you need any more so it did your awareness choose to come back was it a decision beyond your control so there's a few things there guest it's not my awareness not mine not Phillips yes it will appear to you that there's this guy called Philip Wade sat in England in the Universal Studio conveying spiritual pointings to you but they are not mine it is awareness speaking through the vehicle of this body of Philip to awareness which you are also are having a conversation about awareness so consciousness speaking to consciousness about consciousness or awareness speaking to awareness about awareness so did your awareness choose to come back awareness was always there it never went anywhere only identity veiled it only identity veiled it as far as the person has got is it a decision beyond your control as far as personhood is concerned yes it is beyond the personhoods control it appears in the human experience we have a choice but I'll often like to refer to it as a choiceless choice you see one simply is this infinite awareness and the choice that we appear to have and we experience as having is do we go with the mind and contraction and should must or to or do we go with the inner calling of awareness and when when it appears that we make that conscious choice to go with awareness and the ultimate resolution of that is actually beyond the human mind choice it simply arises and that's the allowing again I need to go back just to make sure that I've picked up balance so hopefully that answers your question guest will surrendering itself nurture will surrendering itself nurture the something or other for disidentify that this identifying with the ego or is the disidentifying that lets the acceptance and surrender happen what should I be working with more okay I think I get what you're saying Alan you know ultimately although what I'm talking about in the transmuting fear into love livestream appears as a process it will appear to the human context as a process but really those kind of steps I'm giving you that it'll appear as steps as well actually ultimately it's effortless because one is already this awareness so the pointings in the steps are to get you to recognize what's already present and then let that do the work so that live stream is very very important very very important to you Alan so I really recommend that you watch that hopefully that's helping you for now I spend the whole of that stream going over that but the other streams are going to help you as well because they kind of build a picture for you I think I saw Nick say that was explanation was okay Alan as blossom says no apology needed these are important questions I'm just inviting you are giving a few more clarifications but recommending that you go over those streams and the prior prior streams because it will help you greatly Ruth is saying the same thing and also blossom thank you so much for leaving to everyone here for your love and understanding wisdom Alan if there's one thing I would say the mind will strive and try harder and harder and harder and try to solve this but the insight that I offered in light in the live stream is this thought cannot heal your pain presence will transform it thought cannot heal your pain presence will transform it trusting that presence the infinite awareness is the key is the key Alan so hopefully that's helping you nits is saying it keeps bringing me back to I'm not trying to lower the energy of the mind as I would in the past but literally increasing allowing another energy yeah yes it's coming up I did it's not coming at it from the mind is never going to get you there so here's an insight you get that there being the realization of the self not a place just the realization by realizing recognizing remembering you are already there and that and that alone the mind will naturally what we call the mind will bow down to that higher power will bow down to that however it ultimately has no choice and then it will take its correct and proper place as in service of awareness Alan okay the one thing I had to say is is this thought cannot heal your pain presence will transform it and ultimately it is effortless so no amount of thinking about it is going to serve you trusting awareness will that's a summary of what I said the other thing about their rising that the sudden arising of this energy in the spontaneous cases or trying to force it you see we live our life in the human domain by what we can refer to as perceptual markers you know and they could be a relationships your home your family the things that you do in the day the sudden and rapid arising of the Kundalini in an should we say unprepared way completely demolishes your perceptual markers and the identity is completely and utterly left floundered by this and on the one hand they can be the deepest and most blissful experience but on the other hand the identity is struggling and floundering and yet what on earth has happened here and I actually saw a case an actual case where this was reported it was in a film called crazy wise and whilst I don't know the guy but directly what it sounded to me like he had a spontaneous Kundalini awakening I was in an environment where it wasn't understood and then the in the pain body came back in on the emotional came but he came back in and he struggled for many years afterwards and what happens is the perceptual markers get blown away your level of perception changes people in the not in a normal mode of operating cannot understand you what you're going on about I think you've gone crazy but actually what's happening is a spiritual awakening and this is where the Eastern traditions are so much more in advance of what we have in the West yoga is probably 14 15 thousand years old I'm not talking about yoga just the physical postures I'm talking about yoga the totality the science of yoga they call it a science self-realization and that wisdom is very supportive to us you don't necessarily need to study those traditions but but be open to the pointings and the guidance coming from your heart oh yeah Lucy said I talked about being on the side what as part of her experience so that was something else I just wanted to say okay that's a lot of talking but it's an important subject and I think we'll have a meditation now let's close our eyes Alan just for this meditation if you can stay with us I'll offer some guidance to help you it'll help everybody so just closing your eyes and first become aware of whatever's here now you sensations emotions feelings breath and just simply notice without any judgment what's here just simply accept the fact whatever's here is here and he's being watched witnessed and that whatever's here may be changing moving but the witnessing presence remains still and watches without any judgment and now just be open from your heart to the experience of the spheres nothing to visualize nothing to do just be open otherwise known as spheres of light or the pure state I and even this state I am is seen all witnessed from the silent witness within pure being and this silent witness itself he's now dissolving melting like a sliver of ice in an ocean of water effortlessly dissolving melting becoming one with the water and the water is an ocean of infinite silence you resting in this as this lies previously here we trust this verified atmosphere of silence transforms transmutes dissolves all that you are not any emotions simply felt or watched from this infinite awareness and the power of this awareness is like a kiss from within it transforms transmutes dissolves all that no longer serves you trust only this awareness this and only this for it is unchanging unmoving untouched unblemished perfect whole complete and you non-personally are this infinite silence infinite awareness be still unknown any emotion just let it be there take away the labels take away the judgement just watch just trust the awareness and know the emotion is simply an energy in motion it appears in front of awareness awareness unfolds it embraces it from the inside out dissolves transforms transmutes the fear into love be still and know this infinite silence call off the search cease striving the reaching the trying simply silently rest in this as this infinite awareness infinite silence that you non-personally already are be still and know this all you have to do to be this eternally this be still in a moment I'll ring the Ting Sha bells three times and there's the sound of the Ting Sha bells gently fades really resting in this as this aware of your body the chair you're sat in or whatever you may be lay on and if you haven't already done so just gently open your eyes Namaste good so if anybody wants to share anything ask anything we can do thank you Jolene for that just a reminder the group name if you want to share join it is nothing special exclamation mark nothing special and the seven infinite silence meditations can be found on my profile beyond the knowledge or methods of experiencing the infinite silence could you describe the experience of re-emerging as the person worried about staying permanently stuck in the state of the infinite bound it's kind of hard to put all of that into words but an approximation would be there's no time there's no space there's just awareness recognizing itself as awareness there was no sense in the body two words were heard and this was infinite silence and knowing that that was this in that same moment there was a recognition that was heard by and within a form and that form was the form that was Philip and there was a sort of kind of yeah there was a body here wasn't there kind of sense to it not much there's no thought in any of this by the way so it might sound like thought but there was a kind of awareness yeah there was some kind of body and then a sense of this body re-forming or re-emerging which took quite some time in the human domain I don't know how long that would be but certainly quite some time the infinite silence awareness was still there but then this body had appeared within it and all of the things that come with that body but like I sometimes say everything had changed and nothing had changed and what I mean by that everything had changed in the sense that whom I thought I was,

Philip the person with this story was no longer true and nothing had changed in the sense that actually that which I had always been and you have always been infinite silence was here now and had been recognised,

Realised,

Remembered a bit like that in a few words Alan thank you Philip and thank you everyone for a wonderful meditation and very supportive experience during the talk glad you found it so beneficial and thank you everybody for their support to Alan I'm sure we've all experienced or many people should I say have experienced similar things Ruth is saying I drop in so easily when you are live it's much harder when listening to recordings I've had the same experience with other teachers any suggestions to enhance the meditations when listening to recordings Yeah Ruth this question comes up quite a lot and it's a belief in my experience that it's harder when either people are not here with me in person or they're not with me live or they're not with a group so that basically boils down to a belief that you have that it's harder and so the belief that it is harder becomes your experience that it's harder so let go of that idea that it's harder because it's just a belief and then you will find it easier to drop in witness that makes sense lots of people report that to me Ruth and it basically boils down to a belief Ruth and Nixon I tried it with my eyes up and looking outside my rooms window excellent and you know actually I do sometimes and I haven't done it on the insight time streams an open gaze meditation in fact it was something the silence showed me to do where I simply guide you initially with your eyes closed and then or even just completely with your eyes open guide you to focus on my eyes and sometimes I do that in person with people it's a very powerful meditation the open gaze meditation so you need to have visuals for that but it works so don't worry too much about different techniques that will come with you but the awareness never goes anywhere sometimes I close my eyes when I'm guiding people sometimes I don't I did a little bit that time Ruth keep going with them dedication exactly guest what are you saying guest you're Philip you're the man for all your sharing thank you thank you guest for sharing and thank you for joining us Vicky's saying I can usually close my eyes and meditate but last few days but how totally back to my enlightenment thanks to your meditation I was truly stuck ok so it sounds like you've become identified somewhat Vicky and the power of this infinite silence meditation the realisation that I'm sharing with you which I've just touched upon in a few words is the meditation emerged from that and it was made clear as part of that along with many other things that share it in this way and people will get it it may be immediate it may take a little while longer Jamie I need to stop believing in my beliefs you do Jamie you do because ultimately you will become your beliefs in fact that's what we do and that's why we suffer see my stream or listen to my stream beyond belief I think it's recording number four on my profile Jamie have a listen to that one is called beyond belief and it will explain at great length why beliefs are the only block to self realisation so that's the one for you in fact it's the one for anybody to be honest and I will always do one on belief for that reason so have a look and listen to that and once again on the donations insight timer only works by the donations the donations that you make here get split between me and insight timer and that's what help keeps the platform advert free so thank you very much for them they're really appreciated both for myself and insight timer thank you so much for joining us from all around the globe namaste

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On my 6th round of all the streams again, thus was replay #12. Understanding Kundalini .. marvelous discussion and reinforcement 💖🌷🙏🏼

Thank you, Philip, for making kundalini clear and simple to understand because it was a bit confusing for a lot of us I think 😊.
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Hi Philip
Finished listening to this Kundalini track for the 2nd time. Love the pointings. After been doing your infinite silence meditations since end of Jan, I am much calmer and peaceful. Prior in attending your lives in at the end Jan 2022, I was having a lot of anxiety. I am so grateful to you Philip.
Blessings of infinite silence to you🙏💖☺️

Like the other live streams, so many helpful pointers. Thank you for your guidance.