Empath & Ancient Wisdom: Transition To 5D, A New Earth Pt 2

This is the second part of the talk "Empath & Ancient Wisdom: Transition To 5D, A New Earth Pt 1". The talk continues here with more questions and answers about the transition to the New Earth / Upper Earth.

Transcript

I'm Trevor Lewis and I'm here with Christopher Largent for the second part of a talk and discussion about the planetary transition to 5D.

The questions and answers continue.

I've always worked with pioneers,

Which means my budget is what you would call fluid in the extreme.

You never really know whether there's going to be any money there.

Yeah,

That's one of my things.

I also have a suspicion that good pioneers have pretty miserable childhoods.

There's something going on in there that really challenged them as kids because if they came in with this perfect world,

They wouldn't want a pioneer to change it.

They tell you,

I had the perfect parents,

All this.

I didn't have the hardworking parents,

But it wasn't a very nice childhood.

One of the things that I like is a Venusian point is that the woman whose apartment I'm sitting in right now,

I've been seeing for almost two years,

Exactly,

Not for 10 years,

We really admired each other.

Because of my childhood,

It was particularly nasty at night.

I never slept at night.

I would get up and walk around and I'd wake up in two hours and go back to sleep in another.

If I got three to five hours a night,

I was in good shape.

I never slept soundly until Mary and I got together.

I slept nine hours and more every night for the last two years.

My body is trying to get used to it to say,

You know,

This is this wonderful person you're with,

But what are you supposed to do with all that sleep?

It's a very Venusian thing.

Last fall,

I realized that and Mary and I were talking about it and I was saying,

Yes,

I also am struggling with being this extraordinarily independent aquarium and Mary's an extraordinarily independent aquarium.

But we want to be together all the time thinking,

Okay,

What's that about?

But I think the worst thing is the biggest challenge for me is Mary's an award-winning ballroom dancer and rides a motorcycle.

Guess which two things I'm learning now?

I'm doing better with the motorcycle than the ballroom dancing,

I'll admit,

Just right off the top.

As long as you don't try waltzing with a motorbike in your arms.

But yeah,

Trevor and I are always talking about,

Well,

What are the challenges of,

You know,

Moving the professions forward and everything else?

There's always,

It reminds me of P.

G.

Woodhouse's thing.

It's kind of like a what is it?

The things that make oysters make pearls,

Is that right?

Yeah.

And they have to constantly be irritated.

So I said,

You know,

To create that pearl,

It's just one damn thing after another.

Sometimes I feel that way.

Michael,

This is probably,

You're possibly the newest person to all of this information.

How are you doing there?

Can we hear you?

You're on mute at the moment.

There you go.

I'm just taking it all in.

It's interesting.

So I'm just sitting,

Listening and taking it all in.

Cool.

So Chris,

In his government consulting days in Washington,

Used to make good use of the word interesting.

Would you like to put a context around that,

Chris?

Right.

Would you like to put a context around that,

Chris?

Well,

I think,

I think one of the things that I think being in Washington,

There are two things that jump out at you.

And first is that you're dealing with a very serious number of power addicts.

And I once asked a senior consultant,

What do you guys really think about?

You know,

You're in D.

C.

All the time.

What do you really think about the politicians?

And famously,

He used the line that all consultants know,

If you have a lot of clowns,

You're going to have a circus,

He said.

And what happens is in D.

C.

,

You realize there's this kind of manipulation of the public and to try to kind of make it seem as if everything is the way the news presents it.

So all kinds of very strange things come up.

Some are more obvious than others.

The less obvious is that trillions of dollars are being spent on secret space programs and secret super soldier programs.

And we've been all over many planets.

And that's being dumped on Gaia TV,

As I mentioned earlier,

Because it is often I will say to people,

You know,

If you want a little surprise,

There are lots of there,

There are whistleblowers there as well as other kinds of classes.

But these are things I never thought the public would be exposed to not this early.

But so one thing is about that,

That we're dealing with a galactic worldview that almost every government knows about.

And that means that they're aware of the fact that there's some bigger thing going on on this planet.

And that is what happened.

A lot of super soldiers don't know much about the transformation history.

And I don't talk about it to certain groups because I want them to let me know how they're experiencing it.

And they will say,

You know,

There's the Earth is some big,

Very important,

Something happening here,

There's a big transformation is the Earth experiment,

It's often referred to as,

And it has big galactic implications,

And humans are doing bigger things than they think.

So that's interesting.

And then the other thing is this,

This attempt to always keep one side against the other.

So when I was in,

I was in DC,

Spent most of my time a little bit spent most of my time a little bit late Clinton,

But mostly the two younger Bush administrations,

Which is very interesting.

And one of the things about that was the press and the party heads were starting to create the red states versus the blue states.

And what's more,

Try to find very divisive candidates and try to have people kind of doing this all the time.

And that's,

I was impressed by the fact that the people in DC,

The staffers didn't really fall for it.

And a great deal of the public did not.

Because a lot of the public is just too savvy,

You know,

Realize,

Okay,

Somebody's messing with us.

Because anybody who thinks that those two people running for president are the best we can do.

And we can't get a woman to run because it's a,

Because we know women are minority,

They outnumber the men.

So the logic is completely lost on everybody.

Right.

But there are lots of very,

There are the sorts of things that you'd realize in the great transformation,

The work is going to be done by people in the communities,

And how their consciousnesses affect the field.

It's not going to come from institutions,

Because they're not real.

And we do have a one liner in the academy about institutions was from the Wizard of Oz that familiar sentence,

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

That's great and powerful Wizard of Oz.

Well,

Actually,

No,

It's a bunch of guys,

Usually guys trying to get away with something calling it politics or economics or foreign policy or whatever.

And so it's,

It's very different from from what is on the news.

And,

And fortunately,

In the 80s,

I was on a on the board of a media watchdog group,

Just because a whole bunch of journalism professors,

Concerned citizens,

Investigative reporters asked me if I were dumb enough to join to do research on unpleasant projects.

In this case,

It was subliminals.

And one of the most depressing things I ever studied what the public is subjected to on a daily basis,

But media watchdog groups already realized that,

You know,

We're kind of being conned.

But I think the public was aware of it more,

The more people I talked to,

They said,

Oh,

I don't really watch news,

I don't really take it too seriously,

Or anything like that.

And,

And I was very impressed with the staffers in DC,

Very hard working people who really wanted to do good stuff for the public.

And to be fair,

Most of my consulting was at the Labor Department.

So I wasn't at state or anything like that.

That's a little bit more of a place where you're not sure where your tax dollars are being well spent.

They are in the Labor Department.

But yeah,

There's always a lot going on.

When,

When you consider and I think this is the big shocker for most people,

A government is not necessary.

Indigenous cultures for tens of thousands of years on this planet never had one.

No human planet has a government.

No human planet has an economy,

Except this one.

No human planet has police,

Except this one.

No human planet has a military,

Except this one.

And those are the things again,

That are slowly leaking out.

But if,

If the indigenous cultures didn't need them,

Why would anybody else?

And so this is part of this kind of trying to convince people that there's,

There's a need for these institutions.

And there really isn't,

If you have higher human consciousness,

You,

You end up having Plato's idea 2,

400 years ago,

Because he was so brilliant that both political parties wanted him and he wouldn't join either.

And in the end,

He said,

As an older man,

Politics is not the solution.

It's the problem.

Philosophy,

Love of wisdom,

Higher consciousness is a solution.

And I think we're much more aware of that today than people were in Plato's time.

You sure are aware of it if you're a political consultant.

So Natalie,

I know you're really disappointed at the idea of all the patriarchal institutions disappearing.

Yes,

It's a terrible thing.

We're going to have a funeral for them any day now,

I hope.

And Natalie will be there with the first box of matches.

Yes,

Indeed.

Yes,

Indeed.

I mean,

I'm hearing some things tonight that I've never heard before.

And it's just fascinating.

Like I want to know more.

I'm like,

Where can I go read all this stuff?

I think Trevor,

You mentioned the term brain candy.

That's what's going on in my brain right now.

My brain is just going over and over what you said.

So.

Yeah.

So okay,

Chris,

That would be an intro into talking about your newsletter,

Talking about the Seventh Academy,

How often you meet what,

What are you doing in your spare time,

Chris?

Well,

The Seventh Academy is really just a fancy name for people who are local around here,

A median person two Saturdays a month and Wednesday night on Zoom at six.

Usually we're having subjects that anybody wants to talk about from six to seven on Wednesday nights.

And I will record them for people who want to be on the list and they like the subject.

But a lot of it now is especially discussions about the two earths and the pioneering.

I mean,

What are the tools we need?

And sometimes it's a perspective.

I mean,

That was the thing about that,

About where can I learn more?

Well,

When we kind of peel away the,

This very funny kind of facade about American culture,

And you start looking at the whole planet,

You think,

Okay,

There's a whole lot of very interesting stuff going on that they never taught us in school.

And always makes me feel like,

Did you ever see the film Pleasantville,

Where the kid goes back and it's everything is in black and white.

And he's,

He wants to be back in the,

In the fifties and so on.

But he and his sister go and they change everything and people start to see in color.

It's a very fun,

It's a Gary Ross movie,

Someone who wrote Babe.

And it's a,

It's a,

It's a really interesting movie,

But it's kind of like that.

It's saying,

Okay,

This is just this crazy facade.

And you start looking behind it,

All these very interesting things are happening in the,

The galactic history is a very big deal.

The psyche discoveries are a very big deal.

The,

The creative potential of humans.

And one of the things we're starting right now is that there's a famous book written in the 1930s about play that human culture really advances through very sophisticated forms of play and the criteria that,

That the man who wrote it,

Highly respected because most people didn't write multidisciplinary interdisciplinary books in the 1930s.

You stuck to your profession and your academic discipline,

But this guy wrote a book called Homo Ludens and Ludens of course,

It's a Latin word for play.

But his criteria are that when people play there,

They're doing it freely.

It's not for productive purposes.

It's in some practical materialist purpose.

It involves creative energy,

Involves creative imagination and so on.

Sometimes it can be very serious like chess or football.

Other times the kids playing,

But that whole model gives us a different way of thinking about an earth where we have a Venus star point and not a Mars star point.

Cause under the Mars,

We're thinking I've got to get up every morning and be hardworking,

Responsible.

And at the end of the day,

I have a list of things that I accomplished.

And the Venus says,

You know,

Did you have fun?

It was there.

Did you do something you loved?

Was it,

Did you run into more beauty?

And I remember one,

And I'm terrible at this,

By the way,

Just so you know,

I was a terrible workaholic since I loved everything I did.

I worked these God awful 60 to 80 hour weeks until about two years ago when Mary and I got together.

And the other day I found this,

I live in a log cabin on top of this hill.

And there's a wooden,

This is one of these wooden swing benches out front.

And I realized that Mary and I were sitting out there in the sun,

Slightly cold,

But nice and sunny for something like two hours.

Okay.

Well,

Two years ago,

I thought you can't just sit here for two hours.

You've got to go do something,

Right?

Get out there and do something.

And now I'm thinking,

No,

That's really great to sit there for two hours.

That was really important in some way that I can't possibly explain.

So Sherry,

Let me check in with you.

How are you doing there?

What questions do you have?

Thanks.

Hi,

Trevor.

Nice to meet you.

Chris,

I'm doing good.

I,

You know,

I was getting over the COVID and I'm starting to get back on my feet.

Thank you for asking.

I am now experiencing more of the penis part of all of this,

Where I'm feeling a lot of the beauty.

I've been doing a lot of,

What's the word?

I don't know.

I've been in helping organizations better the planet and things like that.

And I just,

I don't know.

I don't think I'm in a big cloud.

I'm really,

I'm in a good place.

I'm in a really good place.

I'm not experiencing the problems or the transitions we're having right now.

I'm seeing beautiful things and beauty in everything.

I am going through the change period where I've tried some different things.

I am,

I just started a class in graphic design,

Which I never thought I would be doing,

But I am and I love it.

And I've just been very artistic lately.

Just making things and painting things and all kinds of stuff.

That's right now where I am and it's,

I love it.

I'm very happy and it's very beautiful.

Yeah,

I love it.

It's great.

I've had the challenge of protecting myself.

I really have to protect myself when I go places lately.

And it seems like just what you guys said,

Where it's a challenge out there because people are so negative.

It's so,

Everyone out there is looking down and they're trying to avoid human contact.

And it's really sad.

It's very sad out there,

But I'm trying to not absorb those feelings of those people that I get.

So,

Other than that,

Everything,

You know,

I have nothing to complain about.

I came out of the little flu pretty good and I have no complaints.

Thanks,

Sherry.

You're welcome.

Thank you.

Chrissy,

Would you like to share actually your reaction to reading Three Waves of Volunteers and the New Earth?

Sure.

So,

Trevor turned me on to that book at the beginning of the pandemic or whatever it was.

And I think,

I don't remember,

Trevor,

It might have been a chapter or two.

I had to put it down because my soul felt so aligned with it that I had to like absorb it.

I cried.

I rejoiced.

I was,

You know,

There's like all these emotions and I flew through it.

And I remember it was like,

Oh my goodness,

I get it.

Like all the things I felt in my lifetime,

Like not belonging or why am I here?

What am I doing?

Am I doing anything?

And the not belonging and feeling like I'm from outer space.

And it just answered all that for me.

And I just,

I found myself at peace for a little while till,

You know,

The next growth spurt happened.

And then I was back in turmoil again.

But it was a very profound read.

And of course,

Trevor,

You're always intuitive of what I need in the moment.

So,

It came at the right time.

And stuff pops into my world and there is Chrissy an hour or two later for her weekly or biweekly session.

And it's a case of,

Oh,

Have I got the perfect update for you,

Chrissy?

I think I texted you like once a day at least.

Like my mind is just blown.

You know,

I keep saying it is we're spiritual beings having a human experience.

And as such,

Compared to being spiritual beings having a spiritual experience,

Having a human experience just sucks.

Veronica nodding her head vigorously on that one.

Yeah,

I've whatever this transition is from a physical perspective,

I would really,

Really almost like not to be in a human experience because there's been a lot of shit the last two years.

And I think I'm coming out on the other side of it.

But,

You know,

It started out with,

Hey,

You've got a macular degeneration.

You have to understand my history.

Six decades on this earth,

No problems,

No pain,

No nothing.

I have been blessed.

Hey,

You've got a macular degeneration.

Like,

Okay.

And then my teeth,

Which right now I'm getting restored.

So,

Had teeth extracted,

Had implants done.

And I've had hair,

Boom.

It's like,

Oh,

Now you're hip.

You need a hip implant.

I'm like,

You know,

It's like,

We talk,

Trevor and I talk a lot about people who are opting off the planet because of the energy.

And I never understood that until probably the last six months.

I'm not opting out.

But I certainly can see that the energy,

Trevor says I have,

According to Chris,

We have to be out till the end of April.

Is that right,

Chris?

Where it's at the like start,

Maybe just a little bit less intense.

I've actually been becoming more 3D.

And that really bothers me.

I don't know where that's coming from.

And I would appreciate any advice because I worked with many of you and everything helps.

And then I jump back into 3D and then I go up higher and I go lower.

It just seems like I'm all over the place.

Maybe that's just a Gemini in me.

I don't,

I don't really know.

So.

Well,

It's interesting,

Veronica,

Because there was once teaching this class about the two world views.

I used to do this for my university students and I draw a picture that represented the more holistic and represent the more atomistic.

And when they start to talk,

I'd say,

Well,

Which world do you want me to stand in front of?

What are we talking about here?

But essentially the transformation is moving in one direction.

There's always something more holistic.

Well,

There was this 14 year old kid in a class that I was teaching,

This brilliant kid.

And he said,

You know,

If you're a transformer,

You have to go back and forth between those two all the time to know what you're doing.

Don't you?

I thought out of the mouth of babes or in this case,

Teenagers.

Right.

Yeah.

And,

And that's one of the things that I think happens.

And I remember being warned by the native elders about that.

Because I have a,

I have a bunch of air planets and Uranus and Gemini is one of them.

And it's that back and forth thing.

And sometimes very fast when you have that energy,

Very fast.

I think I was enlightened there for a moment.

Now,

I,

Who?

Exactly.

It's like,

Oh,

I'm just,

You know,

I'm just,

You know,

La la la.

And then it's like,

No,

Wait a minute.

I'm like,

Would you stop,

Please?

I just want to continue.

I want to continue up.

I don't want to keep going down side.

And then I started thinking there's something to be learned here.

There's something to be learned.

And there's something to move forward to.

So yeah,

This may not be much help.

But there's an old teaching and it turns up in several traditions,

It says,

Well,

You know,

You guys are the great transformers on the earth.

You're learning to do that.

Because the next thing that happens when it's all done here,

You're going to be moving all over the galaxy,

Helping people transform things.

And you have these very sophisticated skills in the hardest job anywhere else in the galaxy will seem like child's play to the transformers on this planet.

And they say,

Well,

You're always going to be employed,

But you don't have to worry about that.

They don't have economic systems and everything's available.

But they would say a lot of times you're just honing to skills to a very high level,

Because people who aren't really transformers would kind of just throw in the towel or say,

Okay,

That was a defeat.

I was just rather than saying,

Okay,

What is this?

And that's a good transformer question.

The beauty of classical learning and classical academies is everything's an open question.

And when you have a good question,

That's a great question.

And if I keep asking myself that something's going to come out of it,

That's Plato's strategy with 30 some dialogues,

He never gives an answer.

I used to annoy my students.

And I said,

No,

This guy's more fun than you think he is.

Very funny guy.

So Socrates,

But it's that an open question means I'm going to keep looking at it until something comes out of it.

And that just gives us greater skills.

And on this,

This is going to sound fairly crazy.

But when this first started on the earth,

As opposed to earlier things that I said that sounded crazy.

When this first started,

People,

People said,

We don't think this is going to work.

Right?

And I said,

Oh,

Yeah,

Sure.

It is,

You know,

Got all these teams of people,

All of their brilliant,

This,

This is going to work.

And,

You know,

It's,

It's a standard joke,

Come to the end of it.

And it's like the heroes in the movie saying,

This is going to work,

Let's go do that.

And then when it works,

The hero says,

I didn't think that was going to work.

And so what you have is coming in and think,

My god,

That did work.

But look at the work it was and look at the skills that everybody have.

And everybody has well,

Other galaxies started watching here.

And we're their documentaries and TV shows.

And they look at it and they think,

How do they do that?

Where do they get those skills?

How do they handle that that way?

And especially when it's something that to them,

To us,

It looks challenging,

Veronica,

Like what you just said,

To them,

It looks dead impossible.

And I'll watch the humans and they'll come back and say,

Okay,

That's how they handle it.

That's amazing.

And so not much help,

Because we'll appreciate how wonderful this is sometime in the future.

Well,

And it does,

I mean,

You know,

I started with Trevor,

And I started in the classes with,

You know,

Doing the Academy.

And it's just I work with Chrissy,

I work with Beth,

Everything happens,

And it kind of moves you along to the next level.

And you take things and you're like,

Oh,

There's that there's that there's that modality,

And you start forming your own.

I don't know what to call it your own something.

And you pull from everyone,

And then you form your own next level,

Which I guess is exactly what you're saying.

So it's just when you have six decades of basically going,

Oh,

Now you have to do the work.

You think,

Oh,

I don't need to do the work.

I've never had to do the work.

I've just kind of skimmed along for the last six decades.

And it's like,

Nope,

Work time.

And I'm like,

So now you've been incredibly helpful.

And I'll be back at the Academy starting tomorrow night again.

Thank you.

I suggest everybody check it out.

Seriously.

It's amazing.

Yeah.

And that was a nice summary,

Veronica,

What you said about how you approach it.

That's good.

I hope you heard yourself.

I hope I did.

Trevor recorded maybe he'll send it to me.

So hey,

You're on the recording.

Beth,

I know you've heard all of this lot before,

But just checking in with you.

How you doing there?

I you can hear me.

I can't see myself.

That's okay.

That's okay.

We've got the top of your head.

Now we got the top of your head there.

So this is off the top of my head.

When it was being spoken about the Venusian part and the appreciation and what are we seeing?

I drove out of the desert on,

I don't even know what day it was Friday.

And it's a desert.

It's a desert through Arizona,

Through New Mexico.

Oh my God.

West Texas.

And all of a sudden,

Yeah,

My second day,

Because I stayed over in Midland,

Texas.

And I'm from the Northeast.

It's not like I didn't live this way before,

But I've been in the desert for six years and the median had green grass growing on the highway.

The median has it's green,

It's grass.

Then there's grass on the right side.

And I don't know,

Sherry,

You understand this.

And on the right side is now grass with blue bonnets and orange flowers.

And then,

Then it gets even more,

There's trees on Hills.

And then I was actually the synchronicity of this wasn't lost.

I was listening to Ben Zander and I think it was the ninth,

Beethoven's ninth.

And I've listened to it enough that I know what's coming next.

When I went through one area on the highway,

It opened up that I was in a valley and mountains with trees and green were there.

And it was right before that,

That the ode to joy started.

And all I could think of was,

Fuck yes.

I mean,

It was just like all times,

Because all I could feel was I'm no longer visiting this kind of area.

I'm going to be living in it.

And the ode to joy,

I have never been so excited to hear it.

So that's how I'm experiencing.

And all I know is that I feel like intuitively things not being in the desert,

Things are,

It,

I feel different.

It's,

It's,

So as people are talking about the second,

You know,

The higher earth and the trans,

I'm physically,

I was on the road 10 hours today.

I visited Louisiana by accident,

But I spent a little bit,

I did.

But I feel like I'm living it in my car.

As I'm moving.

So this is,

This is a pretty interesting time for me.

But the ode to joy will never be the same.

I've got memories of pulling into the driveway of Meadmore Manor,

Which is an English country estate on the sort of scale of the castle.

It's more modern than castle,

About as old as America is,

But it's older,

It's newer than castles.

But I pulled into the driveway.

And as I pulled into the driveway,

My cassette recorder flipped over to pomp and circumstance.

And it was just glorious timing.

So yeah,

I know that feeling.

Yeah.

Kathy,

Hi.

I kept you for last here because I think you've actually been around Chris for longer than any of us.

Yeah,

Probably.

At least longer,

Longer ago than any of you.

And I know you've heard me tell your 5D story.

And I know you've heard Chris tell your 5D story.

Would you like to tell your 5D story yourself?

Or would you like me or Chris to tell it for you?

Well,

To be honest with you,

I think Chris has more memory of it than I do.

He's got a better memory anyway.

And it wasn't until I was in the military,

That I got to know him.

So he can probably remember more of the detail than I do.

If you say it,

Then I'm like,

Oh yeah,

That's right.

I forgot about that.

Go on,

Chris.

Fill in the details for Kathy then.

Okay.

The quick version is Kathy came to do past life regression and she was incredibly accurate.

She would do things in the past,

Very deliberate,

But very accurate.

She'd do things in the past,

So you'd have to be an anthropologist to have the kind of details she had.

And one time she suddenly says in 1992,

Can I go into the future?

And I said,

Sure,

It's your trip,

You can go wherever you want.

And so she went into the year 2000 and this is 1992 and she's on the East Coast and she finds herself on the scenic overlook in the year 2000,

Where she will later be when she moves to Oregon.

And so that we didn't know at the time.

But the next thing she does is she said,

I'm going to go into the future.

I think it's something like the 2060s and I'm visiting my parents.

They think I live in Oregon.

I don't live in Oregon.

I live in Oregon on the higher earth.

And these are the ugliest shoes I've ever seen.

I can't believe I bought these shoes.

And I said,

Could we skip the Taurian thing and get back to the upper and lower earth thing?

And they have their curl.

Yeah,

Got it.

They're curled up to tell what about the upper earth?

Well,

You have to go in from the upper earth to this lower earth.

And in fact,

They're alien races that help you make the shift so that I can visit my parents,

But they don't know there's an upper earth.

And it was one of the few times,

And she gave more detail than that.

But there's one of the few times that we started discussing among people who had heard the two earths prophecy,

Is it possible to talk about two physical earths?

And that's been a hot topic since the 90s,

The early 90s.

But that was one of the most fun ones.

And it was got a whole conversation going with,

There are two people who did the book,

Mass Dreams of the Future,

Helen Wambach and Chet Snow.

And I once was asked to a dinner with Chet.

I didn't know he was going to be there after Helen was gone.

And he had the same experience that they usually,

When they had people projected to the future,

That a kind of timeline with some variations.

All of a sudden he was discovering two quite separate timelines,

And he'd never heard of the two earths prophecy.

So I told him Kathy's story.

And he said,

Well,

That's interesting.

So she was kind of a catalyst there for that.

Well,

You know,

I've been,

These last few years,

I've been doing a lot of research on my own.

And Dolores Cannon always talked about two separate earths,

Like two physical separate earths.

And that was the impression.

And then I've also been following these videos of people who do the,

Her QHHT,

I think it's whatever Dolores Cannon's therapy,

You know,

And a lot of them were talking about,

Like,

They all seem to have the same story when they go,

When that transformation happens,

That there's a choice that they could make where to go.

And they make it sound in those like there's physical,

Different physicalities too.

Like in that,

That I felt like when we did the progression that I was on earth,

But it wasn't this earth,

Like it didn't look like this.

It looked,

It looked like this earth without humans wrecking it,

Like human intervention of anything.

You know,

That's what it looked like to me.

And I mean,

That would be nice.

And I assume that that is,

It's a different place than this.

I don't know,

But that's what I assume.

I mean,

I always feel like right now,

I never really wondered what my purpose was,

Is supposed to be,

Because I feel like I always,

Always knew that my purpose happens once we get to go through this transformation.

And I thought that too,

When I saw that,

When we did that progression,

Because I had told you what my job was there.

And Trevor,

You asked me once before,

Like,

What would be your ideal job?

And I'm like,

Oh,

I don't really have one.

I don't know.

I can't seem to find anything I really like doing here.

And then I thought about that progression and what I was doing on in the future.

Then I thought that is my ideal job.

That is something exactly.

I would love to do that.

I want to do that really bad.

So I just hope it happens soon.

So I'm going to say,

I'm with this earth.

Cathy,

If you're really good at progressions,

Can we progress you just to,

I'd be happy with December 31st,

2023 at the moment.

I know,

Really.

Yeah.

I'd be,

I'm game if anyone wants to help me do that.

I'm game to do a progression again.

Do we know anybody who's a good hypnotherapist that has done that type of thing before,

Chris?

I don't know.

Who is that?

Oh yeah,

This girl.

Well,

They're not,

Yeah,

The best is a good hypnotherapist herself.

But of course,

Chris was the person who took Cathy through the first time.

That's true.

That's true.

But I think she's,

She's one of those people that's so good.

Anybody can do it.

When you have a good retriever,

You think,

Okay.

I remember once we were,

You know,

She was someplace in ancient Greece and,

Okay,

Cathy,

Where are we going?

I don't really know yet.

Why not?

Because the kids are playing with the sheep.

When are they going to be done?

I don't know.

They're playing with the sheep.

When you get that kind of detail,

You know,

You don't have to work very hard.

Just keep asking the obvious questions.

So she's,

She's one of the good ones.

Yeah.

So guys,

We're at the bottom of the hour.

Any last questions for Chris?

Well,

Do you,

Chris,

Have any,

Any intuition as to when this transformation will happen?

Well,

I'm kind of curious about whether it will be a second separate earth.

And I lean a little bit toward it might be a separate physical thing.

And that being the case,

The building that might take the,

The awareness will come,

It's likely to come before the actual physical thing.

And the awareness will start to shape these communities and the communities will,

In a sense,

Shape that higher earth.

That's,

I think the choices that people are making,

The awareness is probably something that's a function of this year,

The actual formation of those communities.

If I were guessing,

And I was talking to Jim Lee about it with his,

You know,

His projections of futurist Jim Lee,

He and I are both looking at a building through 2026,

Then a kind of,

Okay,

Last,

Last sort of which way do we want to go?

And then 2030,

He sees a big change again.

And so I think it's a few years as this community formation happens,

Because if you just think about one of these happening around here is suddenly people are talking more to each other,

They're engaging more in nature,

There are farmers markets everywhere.

And then I'm here in Mary's apartment,

And here's this big apartment complex.

And there's the people running it just hired this young couple who opened a farm.

They're here every Friday selling vegetables inexpensively to the people who want it.

And that's happening all over this place.

You think of that growing more and more and more and think,

Okay,

How long does it take for that transition to become move from fun to pretty total?

So I'm thinking people feel very different by the end of this year.

But I think the actual formation may take a little bit longer,

No deaths as to how long.

Well,

So you don't get any,

Any sense that there is going to be a solar flash that'll physically strike Earth and transform everyone on the planet?

Well,

That's a very difficult thing to say,

Because there's a certain extent to which the planets are all very intelligent and talk to each other.

And they move around their,

Their sun,

Their light sources,

Which are alive.

And so they're always feeding.

And there's an old,

There's an old native teaching that you need to spend as much time in in the sun as you can,

Relative to all sorts of other considerations,

Because it's giving you information,

You're downloading things.

So,

Yeah,

Kathy,

I would say if that's necessary,

That could happen anytime and speed things up.

So I would allow for that.

In fact,

I'm taking a gradual approach with my fingers crossed,

It'll actually be fast.

Good,

Me too.

And certainly this point of this build up,

It is,

I've watched the individual awareness of us being empaths,

Building up.

For me,

Obviously,

It's been in the last 11 years since I realised,

Oh,

This,

They're the word that applies to me.

And in the process of everybody else waking up to the fact that,

Oh,

This thing,

Empath is real,

And it applies to me.

So we've been waking up as individuals,

We've been coming together in terms of communities.

And I'm starting to see the teachers working together more and more.

And so,

Like a snowball rolling down a huge,

Very snowy mountain,

We're seeing this snowball just gathering speed and gathering momentum.

And it doesn't take long for a snowball to double in size.

And the further down the slope is the larger doubling in size actually consists of.

Isn't that the golden proportion once again?

Yes,

It is.

Yep.

So guys,

May you all live in interesting times.

Sorry,

Too late.

Chris,

Thank you for joining us this evening.

Yes,

Thank you,

Chris.

Thank you,

Everybody.

Great,

Great meeting.

Great to meet you.

We will have this on recording just as soon as I download and make it available.

But for now,

I will see you all soon.

Thank you very much.

Thank you very much.

And actually,

For anybody who's interested in Chris's contact information,

Just reach out to me and I'll pass it on.

We can get you on mailing lists.

We can get you invites into his video sessions,

His group video sessions.

And let's just,

It's about connecting,

Because there's going to be so much more connecting going on as we move further into 5D.

So,

I don't want to hold anybody up,

And I have a couple more questions.

So,

I'll let them go.

Go on then,

3D.

No,

I know.

This is really all,

I'm energized.

I'm tinkering.

I love this because I get excited.

But I've noticed this happening,

And it's one of those things where I say,

That's interesting.

I didn't know until this morning that there was an actual aurora borealis last week,

Right?

That people were seeing the northern lights in the sky in Minnesota and Texas.

I thought,

That's why things were so off kilter last week.

It seemed as if everybody I spoke to had some issues going on.

And then the other thing which I found interesting is that I have a ringing in my ear.

So,

I have tinnitus,

And it comes in,

It's different.

It's a different,

It's different now.

I had a humming,

More like humming,

And then the ringing,

And the humming went away on the right ear,

And it's like the scale is a little higher.

But I reached out to an audiologist,

And the response I had from the scheduler was that they can't see me until September.

And I'm like,

Well,

Why is that?

Because they're seeing an awful lot of tinnitus and vertigo with patients.

It's increased.

So,

I'm like,

That's fascinating to me.

What is happening is that people are trying to get the message,

And it's just,

It's all happening at one time.

So,

I don't know,

You're shaking your head.

I'm just making an observation.

And I spend time trying to get rid of this,

And now I'm wondering,

Something's trying to come to me.

There's a message coming somewhere.

So,

Yeah.

Mine,

I have,

I call it tinnitus,

Tinnitus.

Mine came on strong in the middle of 2021.

And it's constant.

It would be most,

It first started mostly in my left ear,

And every now and then I would have it both.

Now it's consistently both.

Yeah.

And my,

The frequency has increased in my right ear,

And it's interesting.

So,

I'm just observing it.

I'm okay with it.

I know there's something coming out of it.

There's a message coming.

But I just thought it was fascinating that these doctors are saying,

Huge increase in vertigo and tinnitus.

So,

They can't,

You can't see anybody until September.

It's interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We have the same thing around here.

I've had tinnitus for a variety of reasons for three or four decades.

Part of it's related to childhood trauma.

Part of it's related,

There are certain imbalances that can make it worse.

But also,

From Arthur Furstenberg's book,

The Invisible Rainbow,

Every time the electromagnetic fields jump up,

People,

Yeah.

Sensors can hear electricity and it registers as tinnitus.

So,

There are lots of things going on that are tinnitus.

And I think,

And the vertigo is another one that's,

Practically everybody was talking about vertigo in January and February.

And I think they might still have,

They just don't talk about it anymore.

I'm getting used to it.

That was it.

To tell you what,

Let me finish with some affirmations because I just did a quick scan of my book for tinnitus.

And so,

Let me share.

I'm releasing all that is unlike the action of love.

That sounds like Louise,

Directly from Louise Hay.

I'm releasing all that is unlike the action of love.

I'm trusting my higher self.

I'm listening with love to my inner voice.

I'm listening to the information from my environment.

I'm embracing my inner knowing and my inner voice.

That's probably a good way to finish this session tonight on 5D.

Blessings to you all.

Go out and enjoy.

Look after yourselves.

And if you can,

Look after somebody else too.

Thank you,

Trevor.

Thank you,

Chris.

Thanks,

Everyone.

Thanks,

Chris.

Thanks,

Chris.

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Thank you for adding the rest! Would love to hear more talks like this!