Sacred Union: The Harmony Of Divine Feminine And Masculine

Season 1 - Episode 3: Friends and strangers keep asking us, "What is that magic between the two of you?" We usually answer, "We don't know. It's just natural." A couple since almost eleven and married for more than five years, my beloved Marie and I are exploring what we experience together as "Sacred Union". In this episode we talk about how we work on divine feminine and masculine within ourselves and how we bring it into our relationship.

Transcript

Hello and welcome to this series about Sacred Union,

Where me,

Martin Rietzfeld,

And my wife Marie Rietzfeld are going to interview each other about Sacred Union.

And today's topic is about the Divine Feminine and the Divine Masculine,

And the harmony between those two.

And we're not talking about genders,

Like male and female,

But really about the qualities.

These opposing qualities that can work together in harmony,

That can complement each other.

And today's first question is from you to me.

Yes,

Today I start with the first question to you,

My love.

What does the harmony between the feminine and masculine actually mean to you?

Good question.

Thank you for that.

Maybe I'll start explaining what masculine and feminine actually means for me.

And it's actually a placeholder between two opposing qualities.

Can be yin-yang or black-white or warm-cold or yeah,

However you want to call it.

And the harmony between these two,

As we see it in the yin-yang sign,

If you have one part,

It always also has a little bit of the other part in itself.

But harmony for me means a lot more,

It's wherever,

Like whatever our,

Let's say our zodiac sign is,

We have certain qualities that are stronger and others that are not that strong.

So obviously with different birth dates,

Different countries,

Different origins,

We do have different qualities.

So we need to find the harmony between these qualities,

Each and every one for themselves.

And just to give an example from my side,

I tend to,

When I'm focused on something,

I really like,

I hone in,

I focus on it and I can work 24-7 on it.

I go full on in,

I learn everything that needs to be learned and I make it perfect.

I really like create a piece of art out of it,

Whatever it is.

And this is a quality going in one direction,

Like being very focused,

But on the other side it's also super important to take time off and to sleep well and to rest.

And I also,

I don't want to say that the working and focus part is the masculine or feminine part.

I think it's more important,

All this like labeling that the moon is feminine and the sun is masculine and so on.

I think for me it's not necessary because at the end it's qualities,

It's different qualities,

Also like the receiving and the giving,

It's also a different quality but it doesn't really matter if we label it as masculine or feminine because some feel it different and I think the empowerment of the new earth is like find your own way,

Find what works for you.

And with that,

Yeah it's important for me to keep the harmony in whatever I'm doing.

It's like I love driving fast with my car but it's also very interesting to go super slow or even to walk and to look at every single bit and piece that's around so it gives me a lot more,

It gives me different perspectives that I would not be able to see by just going into the completely masculine or into the completely feminine direction.

So having both opposites and working with both opposites,

Yeah I feel I can experience a lot more of life I guess.

That's the short summary.

That's very beautiful.

Thank you for sharing your feelings about this topic.

So it's up to me now to have a question for you.

What do you think where,

How are we kind of conditioned or how can we,

Where can we break conditioning in this whole like feminine masculine circus that's going on,

Whether you feel that you have broken certain conditions,

Certain conditioning and what helped you to break those?

Thank you.

I feel like understanding parts of the conditioning that has been happening to us is to first go back into childhood and also to the relationship that we have with our parents,

Not just in childhood also in the present time because especially the parents,

They are role models for us and we subconsciously take on what we believe is part of the divine feminine of our mother and what is part of the divine masculine of our father.

And for me I realized that the divine feminine has both,

But I will start with an example,

Both have different layers and it's hard to,

As you said before,

It's hard to put labels on it,

What the divine feminine or masculine actually means.

So when I look at the mother role and the mother has this nourishing energy where she cares for her children,

Where she cares for her husband,

For the whole family,

For the larger family,

Maybe for the whole tribe,

It's intrinsic inside of her I guess,

But it's not necessarily a feminine quality because it's very much about giving and being outwards and not so much caring about herself,

But always making sure to look out for others or to support others.

So this nourishing energy of the mother is not necessarily feminine,

But it's part of her,

Of the feminine energy as well.

So you asked me about the conditioning and I,

When I look at the role like my mother has towards me and I see her all the time very much in this quite active energy of nourishing others,

Nourishing us,

Making everybody else happy,

Which is a beautiful quality,

But then it's also very important to step back and to be inwards.

And that is maybe what she doesn't do that much and she's like working,

Working,

Working,

Which is again rather masculine.

So for me,

I learned that I can allow myself to also step back when I need the time,

Like especially during my moon cycle that maybe the outside world expects from me to deliver and to be full on and to be productive,

But my body is telling me like,

No,

I can't,

I need time for myself and I need time for journaling and meditating and really going into this more inwards and receptive mode of also allowing myself to develop my psychic abilities rather than being in the rational mind.

And yeah,

It took some years to be okay with that new mindset because it's not so much accepted from society and I felt like that was really a breakthrough to break through a certain conditioning.

Did that answer your question?

I know there's much more to that.

I feel an important part to it that I want to emphasize on what you said is also the condition on expectation,

Right?

The conditioning about expectations.

So how did you,

Is there anything specific you did to overcome all these expectations that were put on you or because I know you had struggled with that?

I still do.

I'm still working on that.

I'm still in working progress.

I think what helps me in this process is to also openly talk about my inner worlds with either if it's like clients or if it's you or if it's my parents or my brother or anybody that I interact with especially,

And I can't emphasize it enough,

Especially during mooning when we as women are bleeding because we are so conditioned to deliver the same energy and outcome as we do when we are in another phase of our psyche.

And to break these expectations I started to openly,

I mean of course it depends who it is,

But to openly share that I'm taking it easier right now because of this and that and once I feel that my energy is back I of course I'm giving,

I'm always giving my best and I always want to deliver the best outcome,

But sometimes there are days where I or where my body can't and of course also towards clients I want them to be happy with working with me and yeah that's why we need to be flexible sometimes right?

And yeah I feel like it's being received well and I've never had any incidences where somebody said like oh I don't know I don't believe you or you have to do this and that.

They always received it really well and I feel like yes that's what we need is this mutual respect and understanding for each other.

Thank you.

What question do you have for me?

Do you feel like the energies of the divine feminine and the divine masculine can also change for example in a man or like in a male body how can a man also take on feminine energies and still be a man or vice versa?

Do you know what I mean?

I think so let's explore it.

The first word that came to my mind or to my heart is vulnerability and I feel vulnerability is not by society not seen as something a man does by talking about genders now but in this case I think it's important so but actually opening up our heart as man sharing being honest about our emotions is hard and it requires a strong will and yeah a strong standing man to be vulnerable so I guess through conditioning a lot of the characteristics that were said well only women do that only women cry or strong men don't cry I think we have to question these because crying takes a lot of strength to show emotions to show feelings and so I guess that's the first part to question like to question all these conditionings we keep talking about conditionings today very interesting but yeah also like the separation between man masculine and feminine and female it's yeah a lot of it is just conditioning and your question was to yeah how can a how can a man be more feminine right?

How can a man also take on feminine energies and still be a man?

Now we framed it very good love it.

Yeah I think as I answered before part of it is questioning what is actually female and what is or what is feminine and what is masculine and then this kind of rewrites already I guess a lot of patterns and conditioning and definition of what is masculine what is feminine yeah let me take another example which I guess is through conditioning very often being said as being feminine it's like more the soft kind of part so gentle,

Carousing,

Soft hugging or stroking or something like this and I once heard a trick that when you when you're angry what you can do as a trick and I will get back to what I talked before in a second the trick is when you're angry you smile you force yourself to smile and at some point like your whole body takes over you kind of trick your body you trick your emotions your brain into something that you at the moment don't feel but I read once that an emotion if it's in our body it's there for like 90 seconds or so which is nothing and everything that happens after these 90 seconds is what we make on top out of it so the emotion the original emotion has long been gone but we still make drama we still make fear anxiety and so on on top of this and getting back to your question of how we can be more soft is actually doing things that are soft that are feminine like cuddling with our partner giving very gentle massage or if you have no partner and if you're up for that you can be very kind and carousing for yourself or with yourself your body deserves it you can show your body that you love it and just taking a few practices that you feel for yourself and I think that's a very that's very specific for yeah for yourself or for oneself is to find like where am I where do I feel that my masculine takes over and then just take the opposite and practice this with yourself with others being gentle in your communication being kind and gentle with for example when you're always harsh on the phone with your mother or your father practice the opposite and I think this brings so whatever the masculine and the feminine part is this conditions you and or this this actually breaks conditioning when we look at the brain and the term called neuroplasticity it's like whatever we do a lot our synapses our brain highways let's call them highways they get stronger and bigger and stronger and bigger and once we break down this conditioning and once we change it we get different conditioning and different brain waves so we kind of fall out of that default mode but it yeah it definitely takes effort but it's possible it's yeah we can do it did this somehow answer your question yes I think there is also here much more to it but for now I'm fine with that answer yeah if anyone has more questions or wants to go deeper you can always let us know we are happy to go deeper into any topic good one last question for you yes you've been recently reading a lot about the womb about femininity about the sacred or divine feminine can you name a few bullet points or a few topics or yeah that helped you the most on your journey on my journey to to being an embodied divine feminine or yes for example or like over the last few months what I've seen a drastic change after you started reading and you started going deeper into that topic so what initiated that change what initiated this or what helped you on this path of becoming more embodied becoming more more whole more connected to your womb connected to your femininity there are a couple different points one important is that I started honoring myself much more and yeah me being in my body and and appreciating my body and nourishing myself love and every now and then like putting my hands on my womb and reminding myself that I am a powerful woman and I know that all the women are out there are immensely powerful so through nourishing myself and practicing different self-love rituals and like self-massage for example I also started seeing all the other women out there as as like sisters and and seeing the beauty inside or seeing the beauty of them and also telling them how beautiful they are and how powerful they are and whenever I notice something that I really think it's super cool and and I really appreciate it I just share it with them also with men I think the author deserve it but especially women because I feel like we as women we have been conditioned to see each other more as as like a competition rather than like fostering this this sisterhood love in between each other and yeah this this helped me to even strengthen the bond to myself because when I when I can see first I started looking more into my qualities and and yeah my strengths and seeing those and then being able to see those qualities or other qualities any any qualities in other women this reminds me then again of myself and is like reflecting back on me and it's like often like a mirror for myself that I am a beautiful woman and all the other women out there are immensely beautiful as well so that is one and another one is by connecting consciously to my moon cycle to me it got really important to be able to feel where I'm at in my cycle and understanding my moods and the emotions that come up or being able to feel ovulation and for many years I like we have been practicing natural contraception for almost 10 years and for many many years I knew like when I saw that my temperature I had a temperature rise and knew okay I had my ovulation but I wasn't really aware of it inside my body that I kind of felt it and in the last months it got so important to me that I was like I want to be able to to feel to feel my ovulation and yeah I can now and it's incredibly beautiful to to experience this moment when when the egg is released and starts traveling it's magical and I wish that every woman every woman can feel that because it connects us consciously to to our power and reminds us of who we actually are and then yeah also running to you and sharing it with you what I just felt in my body and and feeling the happiness of you for me is always a very special moment and yeah there is much more to that as well but are you happy with that for now?

One last quick one before we finish the interview for the for today since we talked about the harmony of masculine and feminine to feel that you brought in any masculine energy or what masculine energy did you bring in in either of those because I could I could feel like you were very strong standing and in no I need my time I need I need yeah I need space for myself which is setting these boundaries is I guess a very masculine trait anything else that you can think of to yeah bring this harmony in?

Yeah as you just said this setting the boundaries and using more like the organizing quality or structured quality of of the masculine where I really put into my calendar like always weeks up front of like here my morning starts nothing else I have to do in this time and I also share it in so like in our calendar and make sure that you can also see it and it's shared so you know that okay that's time for her and for us actually because you you also started to be much more conscious about it and taking some time off together with me and like together in our sacred union as a couple to experience this yeah hormone change and this is I guess really a more masculine trait of setting the boundaries being structured and knowing when I say yes and when I say no to something and it really helps me and you as well I guess yeah thank you for also bringing that masculine part in thank you yeah thank you everyone for listening if you have any questions as always please let us know in the comments and reviews and we are happy to answer them or you can direct message us as well of course good much love much much love and see you in the next one.