Neil Elliot's 'Higher Road'

'D. Neil Elliott was highly educated, owned a profitable consulting firm, and had a successful career and an amazing wife and family. But things were not all they seemed to be… Neil was facing a lot of challenges. In a phrase, he was in a dark place. Quite by accident, he discovered a Higher Road. As he traveled that road, he found the key to transforming his life.' Neil and I chat about his journey; the divinely ordained process he shares in his book "A Higher Road"; consciousness & much more

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Holiness and welcome.

This is Josh Stippold from integratingpresence.

Com.

And today I have with me,

D.

Neil Elliott.

Neil,

How are you today?

I'm really well,

Thank you.

How are you today,

Josh?

I'm doing fairly well.

It's a kind of warm day here in Missouri,

In the middle of the United States.

And yeah,

Just did a extended meditation session today,

Like I do on a lot of Tuesdays.

Yeah,

It's pretty good.

Hey,

What I've been doing recently here,

When I have guests on,

Instead of me reading an intro,

I will toss it back to them to say in their own words,

Who's D.

Neil Elliott and what kind of work do you do?

You know,

Why do you like to come on these podcasts?

And then I will state my intent for this show too,

After we do that,

I guess.

Or actually,

Yeah,

I think that would be better because it would give some context.

So,

Who are you?

Your work as well.

Okay,

Perfect.

So,

Who am I?

You know,

I'm a soul on an evolutionary journey and currently going through an awakening to come back to the reality of myself and let my soul have mastery over my life.

So,

Now in a kind of a materialized sense,

Who am I?

Currently 62 years old,

I was born in 1960.

I live just south of Vancouver,

British Columbia,

Canada.

I lived in Canada my entire life,

But I've traveled the world.

Second marriage between us,

We have three children and I have five grandchildren and they're all in Texas.

I'm a professional engineer with a masters of a business administration.

And I've worked in the hydroelectric industry for over 34 years as both an engineer and a project manager.

And yeah,

So that's kind of,

That's who I am.

Right on.

So,

The kind of work you do as far as on the,

I guess,

More spiritual side,

Right?

That's kind of what my podcast is tailored to.

So,

I guess what got you into all this and a little bit on your website,

I was reading and it kind of hinted at some things,

But didn't go much into detail.

I don't know if we need to go into any detail,

But what would you like to say about what got you interested in consciousness and souls and whatnot,

Right?

Yeah,

Yeah.

So,

Let me preface this whole thing with that each of us,

We create every event and every experience that comes into our life.

And I'm saying that now in retrospect.

So,

In the 90s,

I wanted to,

I was working with a lot of people being a project manager,

And I wanted to be more inclusive with how I was thinking.

So,

I picked up books by Napoleon Hill and Tony Robbins,

Dr.

Wayne Dyer,

Carolyn Meis,

Looking for a way to kind of expand and understand the universe,

So to speak,

And also change how I thought.

So,

I did that through the 90s.

Didn't really fundamentally change how I thought,

But I became more open to other people's ideas and things.

From 2002 to 2015,

I slowly drove myself into this really deep and dark despondent depression.

And we're all great actors in our own environment.

We can put forth,

We wear this facade and we can project whatever we want to family,

Friends,

Clients.

So,

No one knew I was actually in that state.

And what I did was I picked up some newly issued spiritual books and some science books.

And I started to study them.

To repeat this process,

I went through the 90s,

But hopefully with better results to get out of this really deep,

Dark depression I was in.

It didn't work.

In November 2017,

Our house had sold after being on the market for five years.

And I sat down at this little one-bedroom rental apartment and I crafted my suicide note.

My wife had jumped on a plane to visit family and friends in Toronto,

Ontario,

Canada.

So,

I was alone.

I planned out my suicide.

I crafted this note.

Coincidentally,

About a week prior to me sitting down,

I came across some material or it fortuitously came to me that promised to liberate me from my thinking if I studied it and followed it.

And so,

I thought,

Okay,

Well,

You know,

Being an engineer,

I'll push out my suicide from three months to six months,

Whatever,

And I will give this.

I was looking for any sliver of hope.

So,

This was that sliver of hope and I thought,

Okay,

I'll give this a try and see if it works.

If it doesn't,

I can always pull the trigger.

A year later,

I woke up.

My depression was totally gone.

I was full of inner peace and love and joy.

I felt totally prosperous and abundant.

And 13 months,

So end of December 2018,

I went into two meditations,

Two days apart.

And as I went into this meditation,

I was going through these higher vibrational frequencies of consciousness.

The spiritual energy flowed in through my head.

It filled my body and then it totally enveloped me and cradled me in unconditional love.

And it's an unconditional love that we really don't have the human language to describe.

But I felt totally supported,

Non-judged,

Cradled in this unconditional love.

I didn't care what ills my body had.

I didn't care what aches and pains it had.

I didn't care what anybody had done to me in the past or what I had done to anybody.

I just felt totally supported and bathed in unconditional love.

And I had two of those.

Two days later,

I had the exact same meditation.

At that point,

I knew that the new knowledge I gained and the process I followed,

Which reveals these truths hidden since the beginning of time,

Is our truth.

And I've come to now come into this place.

So that was 2018,

December 2018.

So I've been following this since then and it just,

It's ever evolving and I get more and more insights and more knowledge comes to me.

And I get inspiration about what I should be doing.

And these truths just become deeper and my whole consciousness expands and takes in and understands more about how and why the universe came into being,

How this materialized form came into being,

And what our purpose is in being here.

Wow.

Of course,

The emotional resonance around this centers,

Of course,

On the very heavy notion of planning to take one's life.

And it really felt the kind of depth and presence and gravity of that.

It's just like,

Yeah,

A lot.

When faced with that,

I can only imagine that pretty much everything else falls away,

Right?

And it's like,

It's a big deal,

Right?

It's nothing to take lightly.

And that's so now going from that place to where you are now.

There's lots of different things to pick up on here potentially.

And what I do want to say without much of a transition here on my part is come back to the intent of this,

My intent for having you on.

And to be honest,

Looking through some of your stuff,

I was like,

Well,

I could see where I have maybe,

Maybe too many questions that could potentially be not conducive to hosting a guest of your type on the show.

Because,

You know,

I don't want to go in that route.

I want to be supportive and let you share your story and your knowledge and your teaching and your wisdom.

So I decided that I'm going to have you on because this is part of my process,

Too.

How I will view and respond and how this all unfolds by with the choices I make,

Too,

Right?

So that said,

There's still plenty of common ground and I'd like to dig into this,

Too.

So the biggest one you mentioned,

Well,

I'll just,

I'll put some bullet points out here and then we'll,

We can come back and touch on any of these or all of these,

Not all at once,

Just so we can have like a reference point here,

Of course,

Consciousness.

And with that comes energy,

Too.

So I think maybe that might be a way into consciousness,

Too.

And but the heart qualities that you talked about this unconditional love.

Love gets a bad rap by some people because,

You know,

Some people say,

Well,

I love chocolate.

I love this.

I love that.

But we're not talking about that,

Obviously,

Right?

So,

So we can,

That's where I think we can dive into this,

Too.

The other thing where you mentioned we create our reality.

This is a big one.

Some people might call this karma,

Right?

Where our actions have consequences.

If we engage in skillful,

Wise actions,

Well,

Then there's going to be a skillful,

Wise result.

And the opposite,

If we engage in unskillful,

You know,

Ignorant actions,

And not only actions,

But speech and maybe even thoughts,

Right?

Then they're going to have fruits that are similar results,

And they might not pan out immediately or maybe not even in this lifetime.

But from my current understanding,

That's the way that works.

So all those things,

And then of course,

The science and spirituality aspect.

So we've got our kind of work laid out for us here.

If you have a preference on any of those,

Please jump in.

But overarching,

I think consciousness is one of the more fascinating ones.

And before though,

I was really curious to know,

What is this teaching you got?

And follow if you're okay to share with that.

So,

You know,

So the promise,

The thing,

Yeah.

So my book lays this out.

And let me tell you that this new teaching,

This new information,

This new knowledge that if you follow this seven step process,

You have to come to it like a little child full of curiosity and wonder and joy.

And so I'm not,

Well,

I am deliberately being vague.

I call it a blueprint document.

And the reason I'm doing this is because the way my book is constructed is it's in five parts.

And part one is an overview.

Part two is really a memoir of my life.

And I made it very candid and I made it very open to utilize some specific examples of patterns of thinking and feeling that I adopted that drove me to that point of suicide that I reinforced over a lifetime.

And then part three of my book is a chapter in consciousness and it's based in science as well.

And so that chapter is to help everybody get on the same page and come to a new understanding of what consciousness is.

Part four is these truths that I unveil.

And then part five is really my process,

My personal journey as I went through the seven steps.

My recommended way to read a higher road is read it cover to cover,

Understand the process in its entirety,

And then if it resonates with you,

Go back and start with some of the science material.

Or if you're already familiar with that material,

Start directly with step one.

And so what is this?

It's information that you have to be in a certain consciousness state,

In this open consciousness state,

Like a small child before it's indoctrinated with all of the human aspects of thinking and feeling and cultures and religions that each of us are exposed to.

And so you need to come to this open and curious and full of wonder and joy.

And so my book is constructed to open people up to get them to that point because what I don't want to happen is,

You know,

Blurt out what that information is and where it can be found and I provide it to people.

But because if they go there directly,

They might just totally reject it.

And if they do that,

They have just missed a huge opportunity to transform their lives.

And so that's why I don't share what that is.

But I can tell you if you read it,

You may also come to agree with me or believe as well that this teachings,

This knowledge is actually our truth and I'll call them truths.

And you don't have to believe that,

But that's my belief.

And I can tell you that I'm living proof that this works.

So it's an opportunity.

I mean,

There's lots of different ways,

Lots of different paths.

This is the one that worked for me because it's grounded in science.

It's logical,

It's rational,

It's believable.

And then it bridges this gap between spirituality and science.

Do you go into in the book how those steps came to you and how all the material in the book came to you?

Or is that just kind of anecdotal?

I mean,

It's not really that,

It doesn't make that much big a difference in the whole grand scheme of things in the book.

I describe how this information came from me.

Like right now,

I look back and go,

This really was a divine ordained process for me to get to this point where I felt there was no purpose in life.

It wasn't worth living,

It wasn't worth carrying on.

And that's what opens us up to ask questions about what's our purpose here?

Why are we here?

What's our truth?

And it's these kinds of questions that open you up to explore things that earlier in your life you might not have explored,

You would have just rejected.

And so,

I'd say it's a divinely ordained process.

The science books that I read,

That I share in my book,

Was really laying a foundation for me to open up and have a new understanding of consciousness.

And then when I got to that place,

This other material showed up in my life that actually then bridged this gap between spirituality and science.

Well,

Cool.

And before I jump into asking you about,

Well,

What is consciousness itself?

Because this is a huge issue that science really doesn't even know yet,

And it's still so far behind in some of these spiritual teachings,

I would say.

But this is the thing,

Before we get into that,

The purpose.

Because this is a big thing for a lot of people.

And I mean,

That's kind of a vague thing to say a lot of people,

But I'm sure there's plenty,

A significant number of folks out there who just don't know what their purpose is,

Right?

And who are kind of yearning to find a meaning and a purpose.

And then this question also frustrates spiritual teachers too,

Because a lot of times they'll,

A lot of people will come to them in wanting to know their purpose in life.

You know,

And I really haven't addressed this anywhere else,

As far as I can remember now.

So I don't know how you want to approach that,

Or I'm curious about that too.

If someone wants to go to ask you to,

Yep.

Yeah,

Yeah,

No,

I mean,

It's a great question.

And I don't want to,

Like consciousness is a really important topic.

So let's talk about our purpose first,

And then if maybe we move on to consciousness.

So,

You know,

So there's a few things here.

So your soul is on an evolutionary journey over many lifetimes,

In varying genders,

Varying places of origin,

Varying skin colors,

Varying religions,

Sometimes religious,

Sometimes not religious at all,

Different languages,

Different experiences,

Different situations of sometimes being wealthy,

Sometimes being poor.

And all of these circumstances that your soul is going through each time it incarnates here,

Is to shape and hone and hue your individuality,

Your personality.

Your soul is a fragment of divine consciousness.

It is perfect,

It is pure,

It is unconditional love.

And in order for,

You know,

So,

Well,

I'll back up to that.

But,

And so you come here to shape and hone and hue your personality until you get to a point in a lifetime where you understand these mechanisms of the ego,

And we can talk about that,

And how and why these laws of the universe work in your life,

And how you utilize them moment by moment to create every event and every experience that comes into your life.

You finally,

Your soul finally wakes up and realizes what it's doing to itself,

And then it begins this process,

This journey to make it back to where it came from.

So,

You know,

It wakes up,

Understands what it's doing to itself,

And then it begins this process to transcend the ego.

And it,

You know,

Maybe a few lifetimes that that happens.

But the goal is for your soul to gain mastery of your life so that it expresses its true self to everything and everyone in your environment.

We are not here to please God,

We are here to express God,

And God is unconditional love.

And your soul is a fragment of the divine consciousness,

And your soul is here to express unconditional love to everything and everyone in your environment.

That means you don't judge,

You don't criticize,

You don't condemn,

You don't lie.

You know,

There's a list of things that are contrary to unconditional love that the ego picks up,

And we all do this,

You know.

The ego is created to,

For us to experience this individuality and experience these other things,

These other feelings,

These other experiences that are contrary to unconditional love.

And what happens then is that you,

As you shape and hone your personality,

It is only through lessons of suffering will the journeying soul gain self-knowledge to retain individuality after discarding the ego.

So when you finally discarded your ego in whichever lifetime that is,

Your body will return to dust,

It's ephemeral,

Your soul moves on,

It steps into the light,

And it will not need to be reincarnated again.

But you are a unique and individualized expression of unconditional love.

You take all these experiences back to the collective whole,

The unity of divine consciousness,

And then that becomes a richness in the divine because without this mechanism of the ego in this materialized form,

There would only be unconditional love.

And so it's this contrary individuality that creates this richness of experiencing something beyond unconditional love.

And everybody's purpose is the same.

Now your materialized purpose might be quite different,

You may be really good at math and,

You know,

Becoming some professor or some scientist or you're a great artist or something,

You have a unique expression that you're going to do here while you're on Earth,

But your soul's purpose is to be this expression of unconditional love to everything and everyone in your environment.

I love that.

In the Buddhist tradition,

They talk about the Brahma-viharas.

So these are sublime dwelling places,

Also called the heavenly abodes or the divine abidings.

And of course,

They're loving.

These are like flavors of love too.

So we get more specific too.

Loving kindness,

You know,

Just a well-wishing.

And the base level of that is just an absence of ill will.

And this is towards all beings as well,

All beings everywhere.

And then we have karuna as compassion.

And for me,

That just means mostly is acknowledging pain and then caring as much as we can to the best of our ability about that pain and then having a wish for it to release and then there to be freedom.

And then there's rejoicing karuna,

I'm sorry,

Mudita.

And it's also translated as empathetic joy or vicarious joy.

So this is like being happy for other people's happiness.

This is one of the challenges of mine for somewhat,

Unless I become conscious,

Then I have this thing where,

Oh,

They're happy and I'm not,

You know,

Kind of thing.

So,

But when we realize that there's like how many billion people on earth supposedly,

Well,

That increases our chance for happiness if we can be happy for their happiness.

And then of course,

Equanimity,

This kind of balanced grandparently,

Wise love that knows that we want to help as much as we can.

However,

Folks have to make their own choices.

We can't make their own choice.

We can't make choices for them,

Right?

And so these are the beautiful heart qualities I love practicing.

And they're almost like an emergent state too,

Where when we just have the hindrances that block and obscure these natural states,

Then they just emerge forth within us as well.

And they're boundless qualities too.

There is no limit or boundaries or anything on these.

So yeah,

It's beautiful,

Unconditional love.

So now,

Going into consciousness,

What is consciousness?

You know,

It's a really simple question and hardly ever has really a simple answer,

But it can,

I guess,

But it doesn't need to.

So yeah,

I'm fascinated to get your take on this,

Your insights and wisdom on what is consciousness.

So let's talk about what people think and what science thinks to begin with,

Just because we need a contrast.

So,

You know,

Many people will think that,

You know,

You are matter imbued with consciousness.

You're a human being with consciousness in it.

And,

You know,

You'll read some near-death experiences where people talk about,

You know,

Expanding and feeling like,

You know,

There's consciousness in everything,

Be it a rock or plant or tree.

And we have this human concept.

And this comes from our egoic individuality and our belief that our body is our reality.

Our body is not our reality.

Solid things are not our reality.

This is just a tool,

An illusion for us to learn the lessons we need to learn.

In reality,

Consciousness,

What you see is consciousness made visible.

Everything in the universe is consciousness.

Everything,

You know,

What you see,

Touch,

Taste,

Feel,

Know,

What you perceive to be solid is really consciousness made visible.

Before the Big Bang was universal consciousness in a state of silence and stillness and equilibrium.

And it is opposing impulses.

And these impulses were torn apart at the time of the Big Bang.

And we see those impulses as electromagnetism.

And it is these impulses of electromagnetism that are the basis of everything that we see as materialized for.

And this is the,

You know,

Basis of all of the laws of cause and effect that we experience in the universe.

So consciousness is everything.

And consciousness is made visible through these very mechanisms.

But there's,

You know,

We are consciousness made visible.

That's the simple answer to that.

And it takes a while.

When you go through this material,

You'll learn what was before the Big Bang,

What happened at the time of the Big Bang,

The impetus for the Big Bang,

And how the materialized universe came about.

But it's information that cannot be immediately understood or perceived by the human mind.

It takes time,

Energy,

And effort,

And it takes meditation to be able to fully understand and enter into it.

You only understand it when you actually enter into it.

I've never heard it put as an impulse before that fascinates me,

The impulse aspect of it.

So,

Curious about that if you wanted to touch on that.

Otherwise,

We can keep going.

Let's see.

So,

You know,

I go ahead.

Sure.

No,

What were you going to say?

Oh,

No.

Yes.

If you'd like to address the impulse,

That was fascinating to me when you mentioned it was.

Well,

You know,

I mean,

Okay,

So I can give you a high level of it.

So these opposing impulses,

One is will to move out and create.

The other is purpose to give form to creation to experience it.

And so the will to move out and create we see as electricity,

And the purpose to give form to creation to experiences is magnetism,

Bonding,

And rejection.

And so we know in science today that everything at a subatomic level is just energy.

We are energy.

There's more space in us than there is anything that's solid.

This is just a perceived body.

And what gives form to creation is this processes of law of cause and effect through will and purpose,

Through plan,

Through consciousness plan,

And the purpose to give form to it to experience it.

These are the things that bind and draw,

You know,

Energy together through fusion to create elements,

Etc.

We can go through that whole process.

But yeah,

There's a lot to learn.

There is,

And I'm reminded of like the Hermetic principles with this,

And also kind of the Hermetic idea of I'm getting this right,

Nous,

And kind of the notion of divine will,

Things like this.

So we talked about,

You mentioned at the start,

I think,

About vibration,

Right?

When you talked about the unconditional love being bathed in that,

This vibration,

Unconditional love.

I'm interested in this energy of vibration,

Right?

Not necessarily electromagnetism,

But this vibratory energy as well.

And then we,

Neil and I talked a little bit in a conversation before this one,

And we talked about high vibrations,

Right?

And I was interested in your perspective and understanding of,

You know,

In the spiritual communities we hear often high vibration,

Right?

Keeping a high vibration.

So it's for my research purposes,

And that's also one of my intents with this conversation,

Is my research purposes,

What is a high vibration?

What does that mean?

Honestly,

I probably shouldn't be asking you that if I can't answer the question myself,

Because I have,

I just recently came upon this about what does that mean to me,

You know?

And I've never actually spent time with that question.

So it's not really fair for me to put you on the spot if I haven't done it myself,

I guess.

But if you're interested,

I'd be fascinated to learn what you have to say about that.

Well,

I think there's a couple things I can say is one is that the source of our being,

Whatever you want to call it,

God,

Yahweh,

You know,

The Tao,

The source of our being is so spiritually refined and such a high,

At such a high frequency of vibration that it cannot enter into you and make itself known to you until you go through this process of raising your human consciousness vibration.

And you do that through building new brain cells and pressing it with new knowledge and following these practices in these seven steps.

And so,

You know,

I can't tell you that,

Oh,

A high frequency of vibration is,

You know,

56,

000 hertz.

I can't tell you that.

But what I can tell you is that when you actually make a connection back with the divine and you feel this inflow of energy,

You will have,

You know,

Gone through this process where you are creating new brain cells and pressed with new knowledge that operate at a much higher frequency of vibration.

And go ahead.

Oh,

Well,

So this reminds me of kind of some of the divinity teachings that I haven't studied too many of them.

But one of the things is everything is an expression of divinity,

Right?

This paradigm,

This view that if everything comes from divinity,

Then how could anything not be an expression of divinity?

Of course,

We have some kind of,

The main question people would have with that is,

Well,

You know,

What about all the horrendous things in the world?

Is that also expression of divinity?

But you're welcome to pick that up.

But what I'm getting at here is this connection with the divine.

We talked about this too.

So to flip that around,

What disconnects folks from the divine?

And then,

You know,

How do we,

I guess,

See that?

And then what are some just things in general,

If you'd like to share,

Help us connect into that.

So if you can remember some of those questions,

And I'm going to go through a process,

But you'll have to remind me of that.

But let's just,

Let's talk about,

Let's talk about the ego.

Let's talk about the soul and the ego.

So at the time of creation,

The soul is,

Remember now,

The soul is perfect.

The soul is unconditional,

The soul is a fragment of divine consciousness.

At the time of conception,

The soul is infused in the process of conception.

And the ego,

The little I mind of ego is created at the same time.

The I mind of ego works in this materialized form through the mechanisms of electromagnetism,

And it builds the body according to the genetic plan in the sperm and the ovum.

As the baby grows up,

You know,

You come in with a consciousness plan,

You come in with a life plan,

If you will,

Your soul wants to learn certain things.

You're born into a family,

Which will advance that soul's evolution and the things that it wants to learn.

You as a baby,

You are a sponge,

You just pick up everything that's in your environment,

Your parents' culture,

The religion,

The language they speak,

The emotions they emit,

Etc.

And everybody that you come in contact with.

At age five,

The brain develops to the point where it can consciously make its own decisions.

Now you have to understand we live in this duality.

Your reality is your soul and your ego is this manifested form,

This duality of manifested form.

We have already adopted the fact that we think this body is our reality and everything in our environment that we see as solid is our reality.

Your soul is hidden and as your ego develops and you take on these patterns of thinking and feeling,

You bind down your soul and shut it off from its connection with the divine.

The soul is always prompting the ego to try and get back to this state of unconditional love.

But the only mechanisms the ego has to create happiness or security and protection is through these mechanisms of bonding and rejection.

So,

You know,

You gravitate and you draw things into your life that make you happy.

I like that kind of food.

I like that kind of car.

I like that kind of house.

I want to go to that event.

You push away things you don't like.

I don't like that kind of food.

I don't want to go to that event.

I don't want to go to that country.

I don't want to mix with those people.

Those are the only mechanisms for the ego to draw these things to you that you like.

I like that person.

I don't like that person.

Your ego has this perception of individuality,

Believes this body is our truth,

Believes outside of it are all these things that it's trying to somehow interact with or control,

And it judges and it denigrates and it lies and it cheats,

And it expresses love to,

You know,

People it likes and it draws to it things that it wants to survive.

It pushes away things that will,

You know,

Harm it or protect it,

And tries to create this sense of security through a house or through other mechanism.

And,

You know,

You know as I do,

You know,

You want to get a new car.

Excuse me.

There's a car that you like.

You set a goal.

You earn some money.

You go buy that car.

It brings happiness to you immediately because this is something that you wanted.

So it brings happiness to you and over time that begins to wane,

That happiness begins to wane because it becomes kind of dull and boring.

And so you show it off to your friends,

You get a little height and sense of boost of happiness and,

You know,

Kind of like one-upmanship on them.

So you get another little boost.

But eventually over time it becomes dull and it becomes boring.

And so you have to set another goal to run out and chase to get something else to create this happiness in your life.

More money,

More cars,

More food,

More,

You know,

Whatever it is,

More,

More,

More,

More,

More,

More friends.

And all these are mechanisms of this bonding rejection that creates and reinforces this individuality and tries to bring happiness to you.

But life is,

And so these are the things that create these events and experiences that come into your life.

You think with electrical impulses in the brain.

You feel with magnetic impulses in the nervous system.

The magnetic impulses center and bond your electrical thinking into this consciousness blueprint that you magnetize over time through repeated thinking and feeling,

Being a loving thought or hateful vengeful thought,

And it will draw a like experience or event into your life.

It might be years in the future,

Could be the next lifetime.

But you will draw these events.

It is a law of cause and effect and you will continue to do that until you get to a point to wake up,

Realize what you're doing to yourself.

And when I say you,

I mean your soul realizes what it's doing to itself and then begins to go through this process to shed all of these things that are contrary to unconditional love and bring itself back to expressing itself,

Which is congruency with unconditional love.

And you get to this point where you want to bring love to every event and every experience in your life.

Be it another person,

Be it a situation that comes to you.

And even though it might seem harmful to your ego,

You recognize it as a lesson that your soul wants to learn and you bless it with love.

And your goal is to accept it with love,

To bless it with love,

And to release it so that you don't block it and create these other problems in your body.

Very cool.

And you just gave a beautiful Dharma talk,

I would say,

With the.

.

.

And I love these terms too that you use.

I haven't really heard it put like this.

The bond that you're bonded to,

Bonding and rejection.

So this notion of bondage,

This is what we're all trying to free ourselves from,

Bondage.

You put it very well and went into vivid detail about the kind of the more the greedy type personality,

Right,

Who wants,

Wants,

Wants.

Then we have the aversive type or the rejecting type who identifies more with that.

If I could only get away from this and do away with this,

Then it would be much happier,

Right,

If I could only get rid of this,

Of course.

And then the other one is more based on confusion and ignorance too,

Right?

And so this is,

Yeah,

This is really what it's all about.

These poisons of bond,

This bonding,

This bondage and this rejection and this ignorance too.

And you put it so beautifully of how to.

.

.

Just seeing it,

Right,

A lot of times,

A lot of it will kind of melt away when we're just conscious and aware of those habit patterns as well.

Of course,

It goes into having spiritual practice.

It's a lot easier to notice these as well because a lot of this deeper understanding can't really come through our normal ways.

I mean,

It can,

I guess.

There are normal ways of just hearing someone or seeing something or even just thinking about it too,

Right?

Sometimes,

I mean,

We have to have those things as well.

But these deeper spiritual practices that we both talk about,

Really,

We can see these things for ourselves on deeper,

Deeper levels.

And so,

But what really gets me,

I guess the deeper question here is,

Well,

Why do we have this ego to begin with?

So I guess you would maybe possibly say that we entered into an agreement to have these experiences as well,

I guess.

I don't,

I'm not sure as far growth and expansion and lessons,

Right,

That we.

.

.

It's almost like a challenge if it's really put that way,

But it just fascinates me how far off I know,

I have been too,

Of how much the ego dominated experience.

And then,

You know,

Also the ego,

It's a fragile type thing too.

From what I understand and what's helped me is not necessarily completely shedding it and dropping it completely,

It's more integrating the ego.

But we mean more here,

The negative type ego,

The ego I'm talking about that is worth integrating,

Is the one that will get us out of bed in the morning,

Can help us put on our clothes,

Get from point A to point B,

Remember our name and social security number,

That type of thing,

But not letting it run the whole show,

Right?

So,

I guess the question here is,

You know,

Why do we even have an ego beyond what I just talked about,

The small minuscule purposes of a dysfunction,

Being able to function in this three reality?

How does it get so out of control?

It gets out of control because we let it get out of control.

We don't understand these mechanisms.

So,

If when you go through this process and you can fully understand this duality,

Not intellectually,

But fully know it in your heart,

This duality that are,

The ego is not to be condemned.

The ego is a necessary tool of creation to create individuality out of the unity of the divine.

So,

The ego is required to do this in order to,

For us to have these experiences,

To bring back to the divine to make it richer and have things that are contrary in its experience and its depth and breadth of knowledge and feeling to know what it's like to not be unconditional.

And,

Go ahead.

No,

I'm sorry.

No,

No,

You were going to intercheck.

What were you going to say?

I'm Canadian,

So please go ahead.

I guess I haven't had enough interaction with Canuck Canadians,

So I'm learning.

I heard it put this way that it's,

Yes,

Everything is like one or unity consciousness,

But it's different expressions of that oneness,

Right?

Because it's trying,

That paradox of diversity and unity.

So,

Yes,

It's trying to get at the same type of thing of how that,

Kind of the more masculine aspects of diversity or feminine aspects of unity.

But yeah,

So if you want to… And that's what I was saying about,

You know,

You're coming to shape and hone your individuality.

Yes.

And,

You know,

There are our primary aspects of the male and primary aspects of the female,

And each of those get developed in those genders when everything's in alignment with the divine.

And we have gone wayward in the last 120 years,

And we have let our egos run amok and take control,

And we have lost our way.

And in order to bring the world back to the state of the way that it was intended to be,

Which is expression of individuality,

Of unconditional love to everyone and everything in your environment,

You know,

All of the things that are already put into motion through individual thinking and collective thinking must come into manifested form.

It is a law of cause and effect,

Cannot be escaped.

And so things are going to get a lot worse before they get a lot better,

Because collectively we have created a consciousness paradigm around the world through our collective thinking,

Which will bring all kinds of things into manifested form that we don't want to,

That we never,

We don't even know we're doing it.

It's through our ignorance and unknowing of how the universe actually works,

That is enabling experiences that we believe are negative to come to us.

But all of this is to teach us lessons.

All of this is unconditional love.

It's just that people don't view it as unconditional love,

Because they see it as a negative experience,

Something that's coming to them to harm them.

When something comes to you that you consider to be negative,

You know,

You'll get to the point where you look at it and go,

Oh,

What am I to learn from this experience?

How can I transmute this to love?

And how can I experience this and feel it and release it back to the divine without it creating this negative consciousness pattern in my own personal experience?

So beautiful and well put.

And just looking back at my own life,

It's just mind blowing.

I'll kind of this trance I was in this kind of complete brainwash state where,

You know,

That would have really never occurred to me unless I would have been kind of in,

Well,

I shouldn't say never,

But I mean,

The likelihood didn't seem great until I actually had gone through a really rough patch myself,

Right?

And then could you imagine if that message about transmuting negativity or just changing the viewpoint of more of a default mode of looking at it as what can I learn from this instead of,

Oh,

How is this going to hurt me?

Kind of right.

I mean,

Just think if that was broadcast on popular television.

And my point here being how powerful media is too.

And at the same time,

I want to say that,

You know,

Why this might seem like a more wholesome,

More skillful,

Wise way to view our reality and world.

I also want to be open to the fact that,

You know,

That there could be a lot better perspectives than I'm putting forth here.

And I welcome folks to bring even higher perspectives,

More expanded perspectives,

More wise and wholesome,

Skillful perspectives too.

Because I'm not,

You know,

Again,

It's just kind of more of a spiritual ego at this point.

Would be for me to say,

Well,

Even to say that this would,

That this is better and this is the way.

But as far as to my current knowledge and understanding,

Preface it.

So Neil,

I think this might be a decent time to start wrapping up a little bit.

I want to let the folks that are listening and are watching to know,

You know,

How to get in touch with you,

How to buy your book,

A Higher Road.

Also,

If any events you have coming up,

Any social media you'd like to plug,

And this will be included in the show notes too.

And just in general though,

You know,

What message would you like to leave with the audience too?

Could be anything from anywhere.

I'm thinking also maybe like,

What are some of the more pressing issues so much is like,

What is the timely thing right now in June,

Early June 2022,

If it makes any difference,

This notion of time we have that ought to be addressed right now.

Address it.

Well,

I think,

You know,

Everybody is exactly where they need to be in their evolution.

But for those that are curious,

Those that are open,

Those that are willing to explore,

I suggest you,

You know,

Find something that's going to work for you.

I'm going to recommend you read my book,

A Higher Road,

Cleanse Your Consciousness to Transcend the Ego and Ascend Spiritually.

It's by D.

Neil Elliott.

And the reason I say that is because this is going to,

You know,

This book is based in,

One,

It's my experience.

Two,

Is I'm sharing new knowledge,

But I'm also taking people through a process of explaining to them these concepts that we all understand in science today,

That will help them bridge this gap between spirituality and science when they get to that information.

And the reason I found this process so workable for me,

If you will,

I can't think of another word at the moment,

But is because it's things that I knew that I could believe,

So it built this foundation of belief for me that what I was learning,

It wasn't woo-woo,

It wasn't out there,

It wasn't something I had to do,

And it actually taught me these fundamentals in ways that were logical and rational and believable.

And when you get that kind of information and new knowledge,

You can totally transform your life,

No matter where you are,

Whether you're living on the street or living in a mansion,

Whether you're ill or healthy or happy or depressed.

And what it takes is for you to be willing and be open to learn.

And if you can do that,

You have the opportunity to transform your life,

To go through this process,

To totally become this embodiment of unconditional love,

To be a beacon of light to others,

To help us bring this whole world into a new era of love and peace.

And it takes everybody individually to do this process.

Life is a journey within.

It is not a journey without.

Don't let your externalities drive your reactions and experiences in life.

You know,

We have never really left where we come from.

This is the paradox of life.

Our goal is to get back to where we came from while we are here on Earth,

But in reality,

We have never really left it.

And so,

But you need a process to do that.

You need a process to get to the subconscious mind to break up these patterns of thinking and feeling and begin this process to transform your consciousness,

To cleanse your consciousness,

To rebuild it,

And then become this embodiment of unconditional love.

So,

On the book A Higher Road by D.

Neil Elliott is available wherever books are sold.

My website is dneilelliot.

Com.

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Thanks so much for joining,

Neil.

And may you all listening,

Welcome in the most ideal,

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