Male And Female Roles

Glenn discusses traditional male and female roles. How masculine and feminine energy exist in all of us, and the great rise in feminine energy in today's world. In this podcast, we also discuss the changing in persective on a social level regarding gender roles and expectations of men and women in today's world.

Transcript

Welcome to Life,

Lessons and Laughter with your host Glenn Ambrose.

Hey everybody,

Welcome to the show.

Today we are talking about rolls.

Whoo!

Whoo!

Rolls.

We are talking about,

And we're not talking about rolls that you bake in the oven,

We're talking about rolls of men and women.

Oh dear God,

Yes.

Yes.

Because,

Because this being a life coaching podcast,

I'm sure most people were like,

Sweet,

Glenn's doing a baking podcast,

And I just want to let them know right off the top that that is not what's happening,

So don't get overly excited.

All right,

So men's,

Male-female rolls,

Men's and women's rolls.

This is,

What do you want to talk about?

This could be a hot button issue.

Yeah,

It could be,

But I don't think it's too hot button.

I mean,

I think that it's obvious that our roles have changed since previous years,

And I feel it's all part of the spiritual shift going on.

They needed to change.

I mean,

Most of the problems,

Possibly all of the problems that we've had in society over the last 8000 years is really based on masculine energy.

It's in masculine energy has been in,

For lack of a better term,

In control over all these years.

Male masculine energy has dominated the world for years,

And that's where all the aggression comes from,

And the push and my way,

Not your way,

And acquisition and all that type of energy is masculine,

Strong,

Forceful energy.

And it's out of balance.

It's not that there's no place for masculine energy,

Of course there is,

But when it's way out of balance,

That's what happens.

So I feel now what we're doing energetically,

The entire planet is raising the vibration.

The feminine energy has been kept at bay for so many thousands of years that it's finally coming up,

Trying to get back into balance.

And of course,

It's not there yet,

But we're heading in the right direction because we can't have a balanced world until it's balanced.

So I tell people all the time,

Right now,

Feminine energy is way stronger than masculine energy because it's trying to come into balance,

So therefore it has to be.

That's the only chance of it coming back into balance,

So it needs to be stronger and more effective and it is.

So a lot of times if we see what works,

And I use these examples a lot with Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King Jr.

,

They didn't fight against,

That's more masculine.

This is my side,

No,

This is my side.

No you listen to me,

No you listen to me.

That's all masculine energy butting heads and it never works.

So they bring in more of a feminine energy,

Which is just kind of,

No,

I'm going to do it my way.

And the other side says,

No,

Fight me.

They go,

No,

I'm not fighting,

I'm just going to do it my way.

You go,

No,

You have to fight me.

No,

I'm just going to do it my way.

And then eventually,

Visually,

I liken it to a rock and water.

A rock standing in the stream going,

You shall not pass to the water.

And the water goes,

Yeah,

I think I will.

It just goes over.

And the rock goes,

You can't pass.

And the water goes,

Yeah,

I think I will.

And just goes around it to each side and it just continues on.

So the water wins the argument by not arguing.

It doesn't get into it.

It just does it anyway.

So in short term,

The water wins and it's stronger because in the long term,

Water wins too.

It just erodes the rock.

Eventually,

The rock's not even there.

It's not even an issue.

There's not even a blockage.

The water doesn't even need to go around it anymore.

So this is why I think the feminine energy is stronger than the male energy.

And it's more effective.

And we're so conditioned in our world that to accomplish anything,

We need to be strong.

And unconsciously,

We liken strength to masculine strength,

Which is what we need to undo.

We need to really liken it to feminine strength.

Because,

I mean,

Of course,

We see it in men.

I mean,

We're men.

And we've been doing it wrong for thousands of years.

So of course,

We see it in men.

But I also see it in women.

Sometimes women want to be strong,

Of course,

Just like everybody wants to be strong.

So they'll stand up and they'll start embracing masculine energy and saying,

See,

Look at me.

I'm strong like a man.

And it's like,

No,

No,

No,

No.

It doesn't work well for men.

And we sure as hell don't need more of that energy.

Be strong like a woman.

Be strong like the feminine energy.

That's the most powerful thing there is.

So embrace that.

And you don't have to be a man or a woman to embrace a particular energy.

We both have both within us.

Right.

And that's a big point that I wanted to talk about is exactly what you just said,

We both have both within us.

What you're talking about and describing as masculine energy and female energy or feminine energy are the traditional traits that have been ingrained for thousands of years that you,

So you associate them with those two genders.

But everybody has them both.

Right.

It's just what you harness and what you control and what you,

You know what I mean?

So the terms that you're using are terms that are not necessarily popular anymore,

But they're in everybody.

Right.

And it's,

So continue,

Sorry.

Yeah.

So they are,

They're in everybody.

I mean,

Do,

You know,

I think men have a natural leaningness to go towards masculine.

You know,

I don't know what came first,

The chicken or the egg.

I mean,

You know,

I'm not God.

I can't remember back to the beginning of man,

Like how they were,

You know,

I would guess that men,

You know,

Were made to embody more masculine energy and women were made to embody more feminine energy as a general rule.

But we both have both.

We both have access to both because it's just energy,

You know?

So we can both use both.

And it's just right now,

It's so important.

It's the rising of the feminine,

You know,

To bring us into balance.

So of course it's stronger.

Of course it's more effective because it has to be,

You know?

So yeah,

Whether you're male or female,

To embrace a more feminine,

Non-controversial,

Non-fighting,

Stand up and push mentality.

And it doesn't mean accept poor behavior.

It doesn't mean.

.

.

It just means continue on your path regardless of who's trying to stay now.

And that's so powerful and effective right now.

And we're seeing this play out in a lot of ways.

So I know I've been talking a lot about energy,

But it's the roles.

If we look at the roles,

For many thousands of years,

Men were the protectors and they had certain roles to bring the money into the house and the woman stayed home and all that.

And it's not like that anymore.

I think everybody's aware of that in society,

That roles are changing.

And this is just part of our evolution.

They needed to change,

You know?

And it's weird and it's different and some people like it and some people don't.

And because it's not smooth,

The people who liked the old roles go,

See,

That's the problem with everything.

It's changing.

Well,

Roles change.

Everything changes on this earth.

We can never in any way,

Shape or form in any area of our lives just go,

Okay,

Everything just stays like there.

And nobody evolves.

Nothing ever changed.

That's not the world we live in.

We live in an ever-changing reality.

So things are constantly going to be changing.

And this is one of them.

And to bring us into balance,

That men and women have to get to that point of male and female energies being even.

And we are seeing that.

And there are a lot of societal changes that go along with that.

And a lot of times,

We've seen this.

We've definitely seen it or at least I've seen it with a woman's perspective.

I mean,

A woman's roles change dramatically.

Not just now,

They have to be everything.

They have to be a good mother and they have to be successful outside of the home in business.

And they need to throw the perfect birthday parties for the kids.

And there's just so many.

.

.

They're trying to juggle every area of their lives.

But it's hard and it's unrealistic.

There is a way to balance everything,

But we have to be realistic.

And it's the same thing with men.

I don't think that gets quite as much attention.

Although I have seen it getting a little bit more attention now.

But the best example I can bring is the divorce rates because the divorce rate is about 50% or so.

So I mean,

There's a lot of single dads out there that are actually having to take care of their kids when they're with them.

That didn't happen before.

And this isn't just.

.

.

The divorce aspect makes it more obvious,

But it's not just the divorce thing.

You actually even said something recently.

You said that you were watching Braden.

How old is he now?

Four.

Four.

You're watching Braden and you didn't like it when somebody said what?

You were babysitting?

Yeah.

You were with him.

You were watching him.

You weren't babysitting him.

The reason that.

.

.

And I felt the same way when I was out in public with my son and somebody,

Usually an older couple,

Would look at me and they'd be like,

Oh,

You're babysitting?

Is that your son?

You're babysitting today?

No,

I'm not babysitting.

It's my son.

So it was always me and my son out doing things just us two.

And I used to get that a lot.

Oh,

You're babysitting?

Oh,

You're.

.

.

Even watching.

Oh,

You're watching your son today?

Like,

No,

I'm being a parent.

I'm raising him.

That's what I do.

I'm raising his father.

And it was so obvious to me,

But in previous generations,

They found that odd.

And like I said,

It's obvious when it's one on one.

But one of my friends told me years ago,

He's married and his wife was going to head out and go visit some friends while they were at his parents' house.

And his wife went to leave and his father was like,

Where's she going?

She doesn't have the baby.

He was freaking out because she was going somewhere and the baby was still there.

He's like,

Who's going to watch the baby?

And my friend was like,

I am.

He's like,

What do you mean you are?

It was just such a foreign concept to him.

And that was probably 15 years ago or something.

I still remember that because it was such a profound example of the mentality shifting.

Men are stepping up.

Well,

The men that are doing the right thing are stepping up to the plate and their roles are changing dramatically because they also knew.

Like we've been told,

Don't cry.

Don't show your emotions.

Very closed off from an emotional aspect.

Now all of a sudden,

You're alone with your child and they scraped their knee and you have to be motherly.

We have to be able to open up to that side of us,

That more feminine,

Loving,

Caring,

Emotional side.

And so men are being forced to do that by the shifting of roles in society.

I think something that's interesting is expectations.

I think that with this shift that's been happening for a very long time now,

I mean,

Not long in the grand scheme of things,

But long enough.

Longer than my entire life so far.

But I think that one of the big things that's changed is expectations for the feminine roles have changed because as you said,

People now expect you to be everything.

But I don't think that the male expectations have changed as much.

It's still acceptable.

Even if you are a dad that is like,

Yeah,

I got to babysit the kids this weekend.

Depending on what you think,

You personally might go like,

Oh man,

That's messed up to say.

Why are you looking at it like that?

But societally,

It's not that big of a deal for a guy to still feel like that.

Even if he supports the mother in doing all of the things,

Because she's expected to do all of those things.

Yeah,

You're right.

I think you're right.

He necessarily isn't expected to be like.

.

.

The term Mr.

Mom is still a thing.

And that's messed up.

Yeah.

Well,

You're right.

You're right.

It is,

I think,

And shifts never happen evenly.

I think you're right.

I think the feminine is rising.

So the masculine needs to adjust.

But the feminine rising is happening first.

That's the strength and the power and the energy that's changing everything.

So that has to shift and then the masculine needs to lessen because of that.

So I think that that's why it is.

There was a woman's lib movement.

Well,

There still is.

But I mean,

This woman's liberation movement in the 70s is huge.

That's because there needed to be attention brought to that so it could have the space to rise.

It wasn't,

Hey,

Let's make men more emotional movement.

That's not what brought in change.

So if you want something to grow,

You need to feed it energy.

If you want something to die off,

You just need to starve it.

So that's why I think that it's more obvious on the woman's end of it and it's happening first.

And I think you're right.

I think it is more socially acceptable and the pressures that are put on women are more obvious.

And then the ones that are men are just slowly catching up.

It's almost required now.

It's almost required for a woman to be both,

To have both,

To be like the great parent and have their stuff together and throw the parties and stuff like you said,

But also to be successful,

But then also to be questioned about how you balance it.

So not only is it expected,

But it almost is required to the point where women who freely and happily choose to serve more traditional female roles because that's how they want to live are sometimes ridiculed for that.

And that was happening.

I actually just watched,

It's ironic that we're doing it now.

I just watched a show,

The 70s series on Netflix.

I just watched the one on the women's movement and they were talking about that,

How some women were just like,

They felt threatened because the woman's movement said,

Hey,

We want all this.

And then they were looking at it going,

Well,

Wait a minute,

If I don't want what you want,

It makes me feel like I'm a bad person and I'm stupid for choosing just to be a housewife.

And I don't feel like I'm stupid for choosing to be a housewife.

Why are you making me feel like that?

So there's that dynamic too that they have to deal with.

And I mean,

It is,

It's all part of the adjustment.

And I think some of the men,

If you don't,

With the divorce rate so high,

You have to,

Women's adjustment is more into the workplace.

They got the mom emotional aspect down.

They always have.

So their adjustment is more external outside of the home life.

And you either bring money in this society or you don't.

So if you're divorced,

You need to make that adjustment.

You don't have a choice whether you're going to or not.

Men have always been in the workforce,

So they have the money aspect,

Hopefully.

But if they're not real motherly in the home,

There's going to be issues because of it.

But they can almost sit back and if they don't make the adjustments,

What's the worst that's going to happen?

They can still pay the bills.

They can still lie to themselves and pretend that they don't have to.

Whereas women don't have that luxury.

So when we look at the,

As I'm saying this,

It feels like there's more pressure on the men and there's less pressure on the men,

Which I think is true.

But usually whenever we see that,

We fall right into the victim mode.

See it's not fair.

And we've got to look at the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is like who's going to be happier and more well balanced first?

Because that's the goal.

The universe doesn't look at us and go,

We want to make sure they're not overwhelmed.

We want to make sure that everything's okay for them.

We want to make sure that life is easy.

No,

That's not what the universe wants for us.

What the universe wants is us to arrive at a healthy,

Balanced space.

Women are getting there first.

I'm not saying it's easy.

I'm saying they're getting there first.

So they're experiencing more love,

More peace,

More balance than men are.

They are.

I mean,

Just look at the spiritual movement.

I mean,

The spiritual movement is,

I don't know what the numbers are,

Man,

But it's weighing heavily to the women.

Women are waking up at a lot faster rate than men are.

And I think it's because they're more anchored in the feminine,

Which is more emotional.

So the jump is a shorter leap for them to open up spiritually because they're actually already connected to themselves internally to some degree.

And we've been taught for thousands of years to stay away from that aspect of us.

Not only do we not embrace it,

But we've been taught not to go there because it's weak.

You know,

And like Brene Brown was talking and she said that,

You're laughing because I love Brene Brown.

She's been in my radar lately.

She was saying that the number one issue for women is body image.

The number one issue for men is weakness.

That's our number one issue.

We can't be perceived as weak by anyone.

By a woman,

We can't be perceived as weak by a woman because then we're weak and they can't respect us.

And we can't be perceived as weak by other men because then we're just bullied and pushed down and not respected.

So that's our number one issue.

So I mean,

We've got a ways to go.

There's a couple of guys sitting here.

We got a ways to go.

Women are at the forefront of the movement.

Yeah.

And this is,

I mean,

The funniest thing about all of this and someone somewhere is screaming at their podcast device whenever they're listening to this on.

Yeah,

We're two men talking about this.

A,

This doesn't necessarily apply to everybody because everybody has different levels of energy and everybody has different identities.

Everybody has different ideas and every,

You know,

So is it a one size fits all solution to anything?

No.

And do two men have all of the answers about this?

Absolutely not.

But definitely we do.

But in a traditional sense,

You know,

Which the majority of the people listening to this will be everything that you're saying is right.

And it's hard and it's a difficult situation,

But it's a situation that everybody needs to talk about and just like,

You know,

Figure out what they can do better.

Right and it's,

You know,

If we're,

You know,

If we stay in a bigger perspective and look at it and go,

Okay,

You know,

What's happening on the earth right now?

And we're in the middle of a spiritual shift.

And if we come at it from that perspective and now all of a sudden we don't have victims,

We have change heading in the right direction because we're loved.

And if we come in from that door,

Then that's where we're going to meet.

And that's where there are no victims,

You know?

And that's because,

I mean,

Generally people get upset because they feel like they're being victimized.

So it's like we want to meet at a level that this is just a transition that's happening.

And do I understand it a hundred percent from a female perspective?

No,

I don't.

I'm not a female.

So how the heck would I,

You know,

And I don't pretend to,

But this is just my perspective and it's opening up the topic to discuss it.

And it's two guys discussing it because there happens to be two guys that do this podcast.

So that's what you're going to get two guys' perspectives on everything.

That's just,

You know,

So.

And like you said,

Everybody's different.

I think I have like,

I don't know,

Well,

You may have a different take on this.

I think that I have like a ton of feminine energy compared to,

And I have a lot of masculine energy,

But like,

I know that I have both.

It's very clear to me.

And there are women that have more masculine energy.

There are straight women with more masculine energy.

There are gay women with more masculine energy.

There are straight men with a more feminine energy.

Right,

Yeah.

And a lot of it is what you're opening to.

And it's also generationally.

Remember this is a,

You know,

This is a shift,

Part of the spiritual shift that's going on.

So your generation as a general rule,

The men in your generation are going to be,

You know,

Like if you took them all generally,

You're going to be open to more feminine energy than the men in my generation.

And my generation is going to be more open to feminine energy than my father's generation and his father's generation.

You know,

That's how the shift happens.

We're better balanced.

There was,

Speaking of like this spiritual evolution and all of this stuff,

When I was in high school,

There was one kid,

At one point,

There was one kid in my high school who was like,

He was gay,

He identified more with feminine energy,

He liked to,

Like he wore like wings to school one day.

And like some kids hated him,

But most of the people like that I saw,

At least because I was not hanging out with the people that were filled with hate,

Like loved him and embraced him and stuff.

And we were like,

Oh,

Like,

This is great.

Everybody's embracing this kid.

And I thought,

This is great.

I love my generation.

For like,

Allowing people to be who they are.

Yeah,

It's not even,

I hate the word acceptance because I don't think that there's anything to accept whatever.

But anyway,

I was like,

I remember in high school thinking like,

Yeah,

Awesome.

This is great.

I'm glad that everybody is like,

It's not a thing,

Really.

For the most part,

I thought this is not a thing.

Right.

It's good.

Several years later,

I'm directing a high school show.

And we're like all building a set and stuff.

And I'm talking to some of the kids.

And I'm like,

And they're like talking to each other about like,

Who's got crushes on who and stuff.

And a couple of the kids were just like,

I'm gay.

I'm bi.

I'm straight.

And then one of them was like,

I'm pansexual.

And I was like,

I don't know.

It wasn't even that term.

It said a term that I had never heard before.

And I went,

What does that mean?

And he was like,

It means we don't care.

We just love,

It doesn't matter.

And I was like,

Oh,

Cool.

And everybody else was like,

Yeah,

Cool.

And like two years before that,

A girl had like come out on stage during a talent show and it was a huge deal.

But two years later,

All of these kids are just talking about this all like openly and sharing all this stuff with each other.

And I was like,

This is awesome.

So the generational shift of energy that you were talking about,

I think is very apparent with all of this energy shift.

Right.

And it is.

And when we see stuff like that,

We get all hopeful and we go,

Oh,

Isn't this wonderful?

Yeah,

Well,

That's not what change looks like.

And we have to remember that.

What change looks like is uproar when this stuff came out on television.

When Ellen came out on television,

The whole world went crazy.

And the gender dialogue,

It takes people talking about it.

It takes people,

Some people getting upset and then eventually getting used to it.

That's the beautiful byproduct.

But it looks ugly in the beginning.

So if you see something that looks ugly and you just go,

Oh my God,

It's ugly.

Well,

Yeah,

That's the beginning.

That's what the beginning of change looks like.

Don't stay there.

Just understand that that's the beginning of change and stay on course.

If you stay on course,

It comes back,

It eventually spits out into something beautiful.

So that's what we're in the middle of.

And having the dialogue and really working through being open and working through the changes that are taking place.

And as we work through it,

We are getting to a place that's more beautiful,

More accepting,

More loving of everyone.

That's where we're going and that's what this looks like.

When we were talking earlier,

One thing that kept jumping out at me is I kind of flashed to when I've discussed this topic with clients.

And the most common reaction that I get from clients when I bring this up,

Especially female clients is they go,

Wow,

It's so great to hear you say that.

It's so cool to hear a man say that feminine energy is more important.

Right now,

We have to embrace it and feminine energy is stronger and to really embrace my feminine energy because that's the most powerful energy there is right now and that it's important.

And even to acknowledge the role changes,

It's so refreshing to hear a man say that.

That's usually the reaction that I get from my female clients,

Which is nice.

I'm saying it because I feel it to be true because it's all part of the spiritual shift,

Not because I'm some guy that wants to make women feel good.

It's just truth.

They feel good on their own.

So this is all part of the spiritual shift that's going on and I think it's not always easy and it takes adjustments,

But the end result,

The direction that we're going,

If we look at that and keep our eyes on the prize,

That's where all the joy and the peace is going to be when we get to where we're going.

And as you mentioned,

I think that was a perfect example of how we're getting there because what you just said didn't happen two generations ago.

Right.

Absolutely not.

There's no way.

It wouldn't have happened in my generation,

Let alone.

.

.

So seeing the changes being so dramatic in just simply a few generations is profound.

So there.

All right.

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Yeah,

That's true.

Yeah,

What he said.

All right,

I'm going to go with that.

All right.

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Reviews

Really interesting, some very valid points. Also its noteworthy I think that many of the younger generation were raised solely by single mums, and may not have been in contact with much strong male energy, I think that's certainly the case with my boys... Thanks gentlemen 💜x