Embracing Your Whole Truth & Womb Magic With Mercedes Michaels

In this episode of the And The Net Appeared podcast, Chelsey is joined by Mercedes Michaels, a life, love & sex coach. As a qualified Tantra Practitioner, Energy Healer, Doula, Life Coach, and creator of the Womb Magic Process, she works with women all over the world to guide and support them to step into their fullest potential and connect with their pleasure and passion. Recorded Oct 6, 2020.
Please note: This track may include some explicit language.

Transcript

And I guess the growth that I experienced in Bali was just like,

And what if I just own all of it?

Like,

What would that look like?

What if I just,

As you say,

The net appears?

It's like,

What if I just jumped and was like,

I'm here and if you don't like it,

Fuck it.

Like,

Really,

I just hit this point.

And there were still two people that I hid that from.

But the rest of the world,

I was like,

Here I am.

And that's when I decided to write my book,

The Soulful Stripper.

Welcome to End the Net Appeared podcast.

I'm your host,

Chelsea Benzl,

Business coach for spiritual online entrepreneurs.

In this podcast,

You're going to hear stories of badass women just like you taking big leaps of faith and the net appearing.

Enjoy.

Hello,

I am here with the gorgeous Mercedes Michaels,

Life,

Love and sex coach.

Welcome Mercedes.

Thank you so much for being here on the podcast.

Hi,

Thank you.

I'm so excited to be here.

It's really,

I think I just want to touch on the synchronicity first,

Before we even get started of how this episode came to be.

Totally one of those,

Like,

Maybe not quite leap and the net will appear stories,

But almost that trust and that what you seek is seeking you.

Because I wanted to reach out to you about being on the podcast,

And then you put something out there on Facebook and it just divinely fell into place.

And here we are.

And I'm really excited for all the things that we're going to talk about.

I know.

I was just like,

Of course,

Of course she was going to reach out to me about this.

I didn't even know you did a podcast.

At that point,

I hadn't caught up,

I guess,

Because we're on different time zones and that I hadn't seen what you'd been up to.

And so when you were like mine,

I was like,

Yay.

So for anyone listening,

Mercedes and I go back to our Bali days.

That's where we met back in the day.

Bali days,

That's where we met back in what would have been like 2016,

2017?

17.

Yeah,

2017.

I moved out there.

So,

Yeah.

Yeah.

So much has changed,

Obviously,

In the world since then.

But I've watched you blossom and grow from you were doing more,

Like the doula work that you were doing back then.

And tell us a little bit about your evolution and the work that you're doing now and how it kind of came to be.

I'm super curious to hear that transition.

Yeah.

I think for me,

I've always kind of spent the last 20 years in and out of this kind of self-development world in some sense.

And I think I would learn something,

Go away,

Forget that I learned it.

And then something would drag me back to the past again.

And I would just keep coming back to the past,

Each time learning more and more.

I guess when I was 30,

I went through big changes.

I divorced.

I was a new mum.

I didn't know which way was up.

I was just hanging on for dear life.

So I guess when you met me in 2017,

I'd done a few courses.

I was living in Bali.

My dream was to be a doula out there.

And I got to live out some of that reality,

Helping out at Bhumi Sahath,

The birthing center.

And then as a solo mum,

I realized actually,

I don't want to live my life on edge of when somebody might give birth.

Although I loved learning and I loved everything about that support role.

I also saw that a lot of women in the West had a lot of trauma around birth and a lot of trauma around their sexuality and owning who they were.

So when I came back from Bali,

There was this kind of evolution of like,

I had worked as a stripper on and off for the past 18 years.

And that was a big thing of mine was like,

I can't tell anybody.

It's a naughty secret.

Like,

Duh,

Duh,

Duh,

Duh,

Duh.

And I just felt so torn all the time at like,

Shutting people out of my life and closing it down and keeping it,

You know,

Like so compartmentalized because I wasn't living my truth.

And I guess the growth that I experienced in Bali was just like,

And what if I just own all of it?

Like,

What would that look like?

What if I just,

As you say,

The net appears,

It's like,

What if I just jumped and was like,

I'm here and if you don't like it,

Fuck it.

Like,

Really?

I just hit this point and there were still two people that I hid that from,

But the rest of the world,

I was like,

Here I am.

And that's when I decided to write my book,

The Soulful Stripper,

Because I really wanted to change the stigma around,

You know,

Like sex work and like,

Did that mean that I was a horrible person?

No.

It meant that I was doing a job.

I was providing for my daughter.

I was expressing my sexuality and,

You know,

Living a normal life.

Like,

If I wasn't at work,

I wasn't out partying until 5am.

I was like,

Doing whatever else does,

You know,

Still a normal functioning part of society.

And so,

Yeah,

I came out with the book and that's been going great.

And then from there,

It's kind of rolled on,

Like people were like,

Okay,

What,

You know,

Like,

Can you teach me how to like,

You know,

Get in contact with my sexuality and a lot of the Tantra work that I've learned over the years.

So it all kind of snowballed and became,

Right,

This like life,

Love and sex coach.

And just,

Yeah,

An accumulation of everything that I've learned.

So there's bits of the doula and womb healing in there.

There's,

You know,

Like relationship work,

There's,

You know,

Just like stepping into and owning your full feminine power,

However that looks.

And yeah,

And that's what I feel most passionate about because it's when I have accessed the most personal freedom is by being completely honest and here I am,

You know.

And I wish that for everyone on the planet.

Yeah,

I love that.

It's like once you stepped into the fullness of who you actually are and trusted that kind of like that net appearing that you would be safe,

You would be supported.

It is okay to be all of you.

And then things start to just snowball and it becomes this thing,

Right?

Like you become magnetic to all of the people who now you can actually help because you're now all of you.

Totally.

And it was interesting that I'd always had this story of like isolation.

Like I think even in Uput I still felt a little like as like an outer,

Like I wasn't in the cool crowd,

I wasn't accepted.

And that was a lot of my own story.

And going to school pick up,

I was thinking there is no way that school mums are going to accept me for who I am.

If I tell them what I do,

It's going to affect like my child playing with their kid and like dah,

Dah,

Dah.

And so I went on this,

I created this whole story about every school mum ever.

So when I was writing the book,

I challenged myself to say like to own it.

Cause I was still stripping at the time and I was just like,

Oh,

What do you do?

And I was like,

Oh,

I'm a stripper and you know,

I'm doing some coaching and dah,

Dah,

Dah.

And so,

But I held it even with the people that I really wanted to just like,

Like,

Jerk away from.

And what I realized is that there would be people who wouldn't take it and wouldn't like it and that's fine.

They're not my people.

But I never experienced that.

Nastiness about it.

I experienced intrigue.

And more often than not,

It opened doors to connection because I shared with this school mum who I thought for sure was going to be like,

With me,

She's like,

Oh my God,

You probably know my cousin.

I've known her cousin for like eight years.

And this whole story I'd built about myself because I was like,

Oh,

I'm going to be a stripper.

Because I accepted me,

Other people accepted me.

And that was the difference is I would tell people in the past and maybe experience like some kind of friction because I wasn't truly okay with it.

I would say it with a little bit of like a,

Oh.

And then when I stepped into it and I was like,

Yeah,

And I'm a stripper,

Like then the responses were completely different.

That's the thing that blew me away the most is that,

Yeah,

Like I've literally had no like backlash,

So to speak,

Or any of those things that used to keep me up at night,

Like tying my tummy in knots.

So yeah.

Isn't that funny?

The stories that we can create and build into these,

Like it,

It feels so real.

Like,

Well,

Of course that's how they're going to react.

Of course,

I'm going to be shamed and thrown out to,

You know,

Like,

What's that word?

Dis,

Where you're,

You're thrown out of the community and you're just like,

You're fending for yourself and it's our survival mechanisms.

It's our ego.

It's,

You know,

So many factors at play.

I get it.

I get it logically why we do that,

But it's still bullshit.

And then you have the experience of like,

Yeah,

I have,

I'm not surprised that you haven't gotten any kind of backlash or any kind of like nastiness from these people because you're owning it.

You're,

You're grounded in your truth and who you are.

And just like with anything,

That's what you're vibrating at.

That's what you're putting out there.

So of course that's going to be matched.

Yeah,

Totally.

I think it's a very different day as well.

Like it makes me sound like I'm a hundred,

But 18 years ago when I started stripping,

Like when I was like 18,

It was really taboo.

You really hid that from everyone.

No one should find out about that.

It was very shameful.

And I carried that,

Like it was only bikies and sluts that kind of,

That was like the,

You know,

The,

The senses in the,

In the community of that was the kind of people that did that.

You must need drugs or whatever.

And then there's been a huge turnover in the kind of women that are doing this work.

They're like,

Well,

I'm going to own it and I'm going to set myself up for life and I'm going to do it.

And it's like some really incredibly intelligent and smart and sassy and powerhouse women who are,

You know,

Who are using their,

Their bodies and their sensuality in a way that also supports them.

And so I think it's a completely different topic.

So I think maybe this conversation 18 years ago would have been maybe a little bit different.

So yeah,

It definitely evolved in our,

In our thinking.

Yeah.

And that says a lot about the shift in consciousness just around women's empowerment and women's like,

I sometimes wonder if because of my Bali days,

This got kind of ingrained in me and to me it's normal,

But I do start to see the shift in the mainstream as well around owning our sensuality,

Owning our cycles and working with our,

Like our menstrual cycle,

The moon cycles,

Just all of it.

And it's like,

There's this greater and growing awakening around our power as women.

And so it almost makes sense through that lens,

How you would then see these really really soulful,

Spiritual switched on women who they're not sluts,

They're not going out there and like,

We could even,

You know,

Pick apart that word slut.

Like,

What does that even mean?

But yeah,

It's just owning what you,

The power,

You know,

You have and working with that.

There's a lot of beauty in that.

I see that we are making those shifts and we are coming into a new awareness around it.

Yeah.

And I think as well,

Like the view on like,

This can actually be like sex work on the whole can actually be a really spiritual and connected job.

Like we're semi-counselors,

Like we spend time with these men who either aren't getting their needs met at home.

And quite often they're not there to see you actually be naked or whatever.

They're actually after like someone who wants to listen to them because you know,

They're either single and they don't have that female connection.

More often than not,

I would get hired to sit,

Clothed and chat and converse with these men.

And it was like,

That's what they,

That's what they were after.

Was like that love and connection that we're all chasing,

You know,

That we're all out and we all innately need.

And so I think there's a big shift in seeing it from a negative to a positive.

And I think as long as there's open communication and things like that,

If those men are in relationships,

That it can actually be a really beautiful,

Healthy way for a man to get his,

His,

You know,

Connection needs met when,

When,

You know,

We can be forgotten sometimes.

So,

Yeah.

That's really interesting.

I love that perspective.

And it,

It makes me think about how obviously sexualized that industry is,

But it is,

It's like,

Is that maybe where a lot of these men are going?

Because that's the easiest way to access some semblance of connection and,

And,

And,

And,

And,

And,

And,

And,

And,

And attention and intimacy and,

And depth that they're not getting elsewhere in their life.

But it's kind of how I see it at least.

And I would imagine you have a very different view on it because you see like from the inside out and are much more in this world.

But I see it as like,

If I were a man and I were kind of lacking in that department,

You know,

I go see the strippers or I go hire a sex worker or whatever it might be.

That need Matt,

But it makes me think about the professional cuddlers.

Like that's kind of the other end of that spectrum,

But it's like we need everyone along that spectrum.

I think that would be a really cool world to live in or to see that come to be because there is so much more to it.

Yeah,

Totally.

I think definitely,

Especially with like the lap dances,

The tease of the lap dance is like using your feminine energy to kind of hypnotize a man.

It's not like you know,

Smutty kind of like,

Here's this,

It's like they're enticed and seduced by the way our body moves in a way that theirs doesn't.

You know,

It's using that energy and I think when I,

You know,

Became more awake to you know,

The power that I held,

It became a whole different ball game and I actually used to start then speaking to people and speaking to men at my jobs about,

I was like,

I'm just gonna get hired for the person that I am and I would speak to them about,

You know,

Like I'd drop in spirituality.

I wouldn't keep conversation surface level.

I would like try and like bring,

You know,

Make their minds go,

Oh okay,

But I want to know more about that and so that's where the Soulful Stripper came from is because they were so like,

Whoa,

That's not a lens that I would have seen you through.

You know,

They would have had a certain like,

This is,

You're interested in handbags and makeup and yeah,

I can love those things too,

But I also have this whole other side of me.

So yeah,

I was just like,

If I'm gonna go,

I'm actually gonna bring something to the table in that sense as well.

So yeah.

I love that.

Yeah,

It is.

It's like,

It's important that you're having those conversations and I don't just mean with those men,

But like having written the book about it and speaking about this and all of the many things that you do,

It's important to bring that aspect to it because it is there,

You know,

And it's important that we start to see it from a different perspective.

So I really appreciate the work that you do.

Yeah,

It was going back to how you were saying like,

On the whole we're talking more about like our cycles and working with them.

I could literally note at certain stages in my cycle like I wouldn't work like when I started to learn about working with my cycle,

I won't work in the lead up or when I'm bleeding because that's generally I noticed that's when I had more difficult or challenging clients because my energy was like I want to be in bed and so I would attract different clients at that time but you can see like where I'm ovulating like my income skyrocket because they're just like,

I was like what's going on?

Like people just you know like wanting to give me money all the time and it was because of that energy that I was radiating and it's like you know we can work smarter not harder you know like put that energy in for three weeks and still earn the same amount that we would in a month you know so yeah.

It's really interesting.

It is really interesting and that's another thing too that again that sparked when I was in Bali so I was kind of initiated into that whole boom kind of like mystery school.

Yeah I'm tapping into that magic but again I feel that it is becoming more mainstream and more well or widely accepted that there is something to this and more and more people are talking about it and if you're listening and this is the first time you're hearing about it well welcome to your initiation because this is it is a conversation like I remember when I first got my period I was super young but there was so much shame around it like I would never talk to anyone about it partly because I was so young and I didn't think that any of my friends would have been you know in the same situation as me and so I just kind of kept it super wrapped up I wouldn't talk about it it was shameful no one talks about it it's not something that's like you know should ever see the light of day and I probably carried that with me like up until being in Bali to be honest so like all throughout my teens and most of my 20s and then it was like boom not only can you talk about this there's actually some like magic and power to tap into and our whole like the core of our feminine lies in our womb and I was just it was it's just like cracked me wide open and now I'm just you know still on a journey I don't think it maybe at this point in my life is a calling for me like it is for you but it's still something I'm really passionate about so I'm really excited that we're having this conversation and that we can share this with maybe some people who this may be new for yeah totally and I think I'm on the same page as you there I guess until I was maybe 30 I was just like yeah I like I wouldn't like buying tampons or like I'd be like oh my god I'd like buy extra things even if I didn't need to just so that they weren't the only thing on the counter like just to try and like disguise them and you know if I was staying at my dad's house you know I'd be like oh my god like I don't want to tell him I need money and like yeah you would never mention it I'd rather be caught dead than mention it and yeah the more I got into the Tantra circle and learning a lot about you know the red tent which is actually the honoring of that time and and the process that your body goes through during that that bleeds cycle and just like using that as a time to release the emotions that have built up it's funny you say the magic because that's actually a process that came through me kind of and I know I was always like yeah you channeled it whatever like I was one of those eye rollers but it just came through me in a session one time I was working with this woman and it's I've coined it were magic and basically it's a process where we tap in and we clear and well clear heal or embrace depending on what needs to be done shame guilt anger sadness fear and hurt which are your major emotions now you'll find to do with the womb a lot of discomfort pain challenges are to do with blocked energy and stagnant emotions that are that are stuck in the womb and they are things that that you don't even remember consciously but I worked with a woman and and she'd said she's carrying shame in her womb space and it went back to a memory of when she was like seven and it's like she had no conscious idea that that was affecting her in her life and she was carrying shame I worked with another woman in this process and she unfortunately experienced nine pregnancy losses and she was pregnant again and she was really having a hard time connecting with this new pregnancy because she had so much fear and she couldn't set up the nursery she couldn't do anything she was just in fear like her head was just always busy and we did one of these sessions with her and she went to her GP doctor the next day and he's like what has happened because your dialogue your inner dialogue has changed so much about this pregnancy it's ridiculous like you know she's I've kept in contact with her and she's still pregnant she's had a few challenges come up but the way that she's able to look at them because she doesn't have that build-up of those old emotions that were no longer serving her and so it's just like that's why I'm called at when magic because every time I do this one of these sessions if someone it's just every session is completely different but the magic that comes out of it it's just like whoa I can't believe like that has just come out of that session it's incredible so wow that just yeah I don't even have I want to hear more stories like that because I don't even have words it is it's magic when it's there's that much of a profound shift that around something that's so powerful like such an integral part of who we are as as women as females it is it's like how else can you explain those shifts and I'm really curious to hear as much as you feel called to share like what some of the practices you take them through are yes so I mean I was working with women initially doing just like a womb visualization working what was with what was present and clearing that and then I would with face-to-face clients maybe do your any massage and then we'd have a follow-up I found that your any massage was too invasive for a lot of clients for various reasons or either they weren't in a partnership that supported them having that kind of work done outside of their marriage or relationship so when I started learning NLP hypnosis time like therapy I there was a combination that kind of came together of like this meditation gnosis and it's basically a guide you to tap in and see like what color comes up okay now what sound does that have so that we're really like bringing that feeling up okay now what emotion like you're in your unconscious mind at this point you're not in your conscious mind because we've gone into it I'm talking trance through hypnosis and so it's like what's coming up and some of the things like you can see the reactions in what where is that coming from and so it's like a way of communicating with your womb and your higher self okay there's pain why is the pain there and it you know like we're just getting these answers coming from left of field saying you need to let go of that relationship or you need to throw out all that guy's stuff or you need to you know clear out the room next to the nursery was was one you need to go and heal the relationship with your mother or like it just all these messages that have been coming and we do a visualization process of clearing that out of the body and then reintegrating and seeing like a new positive emotion and statement and color that kind of replaces that old way of being and then there's like action over the next 30 days to help really kind of lock those in on it on a cellular level of like these are new beliefs you know like these are what's happening now and so I work with what's present we don't dig for trauma we want to make sure that you know it's a really safe and beautiful experience for everyone so that that way you know like layer by layer we know healing is like layered it's like that never-ending onion and so working with what's present clearing that and seeing the shifts integrating that and yeah the the results have been I had one woman with a hysterectomy she could not connect with her femininity she felt really gross and just not sexy and two days later she sent me a picture of her in her laundry she's like I just sent this to my husband he's like the happiest man alive because she hadn't had a you know she hadn't felt that way inclined for like you know some time previously to her sessions so yeah it's weird and wonderful and wacky and it's yeah it's totally magical yeah yeah there's so much power in the subconscious like when you get into that state that's where so much of that inner knowing is and when we live in the conscious mind and we're always thinking and processing and analyzing and all that we can lose touch with that I find even if I go a couple days without like meditating or whatever my practice is I'm big on like self Reiki or whatever it might be it quickly that inner knowing that inner voice that wisdom it starts to get quieter and quieter and kind of lose touch with that but it is there like it's always there and then when you can do practices like this and uncover these truths it's like it really reminds me again of my power and of like the power these women have to heal the stuff that's been there whether they've been aware of it or not but then to move to the other side of that and know that that was in them all along like that ability to ship that natural state of who they are on the other side of all of that stuff that they've just cleared and it's like it's just really inspirational doesn't really do it justice but it's like a reminder of how fucking powerful we all are and that inner wisdom and if we all just got out of our heads and into our hearts our wounds and we could trust that oh my goodness imagine if every human was living life like that yeah exactly totally and that's the thing that I say to my clients is because quite often with healers we can get into like oh my god they did this for me and I'm like no I'm literally facilitating the space for you and guiding you to your your higher knowing and your intuition which you've always had all along and it's just quieting the mind long enough for those messages to be able to be heard and yeah exactly if we all tapped into our you know intuition way more often then yeah we'll be a completely different world and that's I think that's very fitting for the topic of this podcast like it's that that trust that you have to access in yourself if you're gonna make a big leap if you're gonna do some make some crazy life change or whatever it might be that you're in the midst of or on the verge of it's like knowing that all the answers you need all the wisdom you seek it's within you it's never gonna come from the coach the guide the healer the whoever it's like how do you come back home to your truth in your power and your wisdom that was always there all along totally I think coaches healers read their guides to point you to your own truth it's like you know they're there to kind of help you thought the wheat from the chaff when there's maybe too much going on and teach you how to get to there more often and and on your own yeah yeah so so where can people find you like what I'm sure I already want to go like look at all your stuff and learn more about all of this because I'm like super on board so anyone listening where can they go to learn more about your work yeah it's my website is Mercedes Michaels calm and Instagram is at Mercedes Michaels so that's where you can find me and yeah I have all the info on there and all my courses and yeah the book and I work with people all over the world women all over the world so I was gonna ask that about doing these sessions like do you do them virtually yeah I do them virtually and that's why a huge part of this is why I think this process kind of manifested is because I just yeah I was really looking for something that I could access a lot more women with rather than just people who get to my house for a session so yeah I work with women in London I've got clients in the States it works really well online I guess it's just as tapped in it's just setting up that quiet space and it's me guiding you with my voice through your own process so yeah yeah I'm really I'm really excited to share this with my audience because this isn't stuff that I would generally talk about like I said earlier it's stuff that I'm aware of and tapped into you but I'm probably still playing a bit of that old story of like feeling a little bit uncomfortable or like it's not my place to talk about I don't want to talk about it so it really is a gift that you are in your power doing this that this is work that I just see it in you like in your energy right now in how aligned this feels for you to be doing this work yeah it's it's literally taken a life of its own since like okay right I'm coming into my power about the book and then this process kind of comes through me and then you know it's just all the things keep aligning I've even got a mainstream so this is to show you how we're like I've done an interview in a mainstream magazine about my book like in a women's day kind of I don't know if you've got a Canadian equivalent like a women's chat magazine and the combination of topics that I'm talking about stripping adoption and worm healing in a run-of-the-mill doctor surgery kind of magazine and it's just like so I'm like yeah it's blown me away how receptive and I'm just like that's just more and more showing me how in alignment this is and how ready people are to hear this because if people weren't ready they definitely wouldn't be putting this in mainstream media you know yeah yeah I already people are and also I see it as like how it's just more evidence of you're in alignment you're in your power you're doing the right thing and of course the next opportunities are gonna come up and of course you're gonna start to make big shifts in the world because you're doing what you are here right now to do that space that's where all of the synchronicities happen in the miracles occur and the connections just come out of nowhere that you have no idea and and otherwise wouldn't be able to even really believe but it's like well of course because you followed that nudge you followed that guidance you followed your own inner wisdom totally and I think that's the biggest thing is that I know that you've known that that's just part of who I am is really following those nudges you can quieten them down for a certain amount of time but it's like they'll become punches not nudges and it's just like the more and more you keep fighting against that it's yeah it's showing you how out of alignment with what you need to be doing in the world is a teacher that I learned through said this to me he's like choose your challenges so as in like give yourself a challenge whether that's like jumping into something that you've been like oh can I do it can I not you can trust you might fail but you might learn a lesson that you bring into the next business that is like gangbusters and so I think that's really important that to get to this point with my business I've done like three different coaching businesses that I just didn't have the belief because they weren't totally aligned and so it's like that I've learned something on all of that journey and now I can see oh it's all come together because of that that stepping stone of businesses but he says choose your challenges or the universe will choose them for you and so it's like if you're not holding yourselves to a higher demand then the universe will throw you like a broken hot water system and this and breaking down on the freeway and this shitty thing happening and so it's like because the universe wants you to grow and evolve anyway if you may as well choose a good challenge that's going to take you in a direction that you want to go or you can just keep getting a little bit crappy shit thrown at you and you're gonna grow anyway you may as well be intentional about it I love that you said that too I think that's really important to make note of like it's not about waiting until the brilliant idea that feels super aligned comes it's like okay if you have any sort of nudge like whatever it might be it might not be the thing some sort of net is going to appear and then it's like from that maybe that's the stepping stone into the next big thing and then the next in the next but you won't get to that ultimate thing business relationship life situation if you didn't first take those steps and follow those first little nudges it doesn't have to be perfect you just have to do something yeah totally and I think this is where like having that you know like people was like what's your five-year plan and do that and it's good to have some loose goals of where you see yourself but I find if you're sorry like blinker and like no I need to and you're fighting like that I need to achieve this because it's on my goals board and like to do that it becomes so rigid it's so like fighting your natural feminine flow she kind of like go off the path and see what's over here what's over here what's happening here and it's just like that's how like you you know you've gone to a different cafe that day and then there's a different way to there and then he's speaking to someone else and then you hear you know and it's like all those things lead you to like this new job interview or like a date or whatever it might be so I think it's great to have goals and then if life is really telling you that's not the direction fighting it is like swimming up upstream and it's just it gets hard it gets tedious and then it's really difficult to like you feel like life's against you and it's not it's just trying to work you in a different direction and redirect you to something probably better but if we're so focused on that rigid linear like this is the way it needs to go direction that feels it doesn't feel like a redirection to something better it feels like you're pumping up against a wall and nothing's working but if you can just soften and surrender into that and trust you're always always always being guided then it has a different flavor to it it's like okay well what might be over here what happens if I just go with this go with the flow there's a quote from Abraham Hicks that I love that nothing you want is upstream like if you have to write against it if you have to struggle and force and make it happen it's not gonna be what you want when you get there because of all of the energy that went into building and creating it in the first place like let yourself surrender let yourself flow let yourself go downstream and then because the process to get there is a lot more flowy and fun and easy you're gonna have a better outcome when you get there you know I love that mmm so much to being in your feminine like there's so many aspects to it there's so many different ways you can play with that in your day to day life right and not to say that we always have to live only in our feminine you know there is still that duality within each of us but it's I believe that's where we are the most magnetic and the most powerful and the most in alignment as women is when we're in that flowy feminine state would you agree yeah I totally agree and I think it's I was brought up by a very masculine like get stuff done single mom and so that's how I became and I had no idea about these energies that lived inside me I was like what the feminine what and it's just like so much more happens when you're just in that state of ease and I think the way that I like to see it is like we've got our feminine at the forefront so she's riding the boat because we're in a female body so this is the easiest and it feels the easiest in my body and then when I need the masculine to poke through and back that up a little like when I need to be a little bit more aggressive like you know I have a little bit more like stick or something about me I bring that through it and then back it off and then go back to you know that feminine whereas I think maybe the men it's like they're in their masculine and then when I need to poke that like more vulnerable nurturing side through then they bring that through and then that pulls back and that's how I see it that we've got one majority like driving the boat and so yeah just making sure that what you've got driving the boat feels good in your body it's like I know when I'm not I know when I get into my masculine and I've been there for too long cuz I'm just like like I just feel like my whole body is kind of intention and it's like fighting with each other and I'm really snappy and aggressive and like you know and it's just I'm just like oh can I say oh wow why have I been in that energy all I'm doing is cooking dinner but you know I'm putting this time constraint on and I need to do this and this needs to happen at that time and dinner today because it's in the control and it's just like oh no I don't need to what's five minutes later gonna do to the planet no one knows yeah that's another reminder of the wisdom of our bodies if you can follow that guidance of what feels good in your body again imagine if we went through even an entire day with that awareness consistently because I know it's it's easy to lose sight of that or not to check in and be super aware of how do I feel right now but if you have that awareness you can come back to that and know that if there's something off if you're not in the energy that supportive you in this moment and the people around you it's not gonna feel so good so use that as your guidance you know yeah I think this comes within the net appearing it's like I've come to realize that if something just feels a bit scary but it still feels good jump but if something feels like utter madness and confusion and like really just like scattered energy and like that's a no for now until you can get to that place of like scary and there's also like excitement bubbling and like a sense of calm so it's like excitement and like with a calm undertone whereas like I feel like this like you know big grappling kind of like in a conflict energy is like that's just like don't live just yet there's something maybe that's coming you know so I feel like that's where I started to listen to my body yeah you're full of really good explanations you can put words to these things better than I think I've ever been able to with your your like kind of the explanation of the masculine energy in the feminine it's just so really nice to see it through how you've just explained that you know feeling the difference and feeling the yeah your body's wisdom but I especially like the bit about in the as a woman in your feminine you are the one in the forefront and it's masculine that backs you and that's not like how it is you know if you're standing you're with a man and he's behind you and he's that rock and you're like you get to just kind of flow with it and like no leaves or allow yourself to be led by that energy I don't know I'm kind of just riffing off this but I really loved that analogy thank you for that no worries oh this has been so nice to connect and to share your magic with all of us thank you again so much for for being here and and yeah sharing that with us no thank you I was so excited I was like yeah I get to catch up and share this stuff so yeah no it's been really lovely yeah getting to catch up and share this yeah I really chilled you know conversational kind of way I really enjoyed it yeah me too so we'll put all of the links for all of your all your stuff anywhere that people listening can find you and that'll be in the show notes for this episode um yeah is there anything else you want to add or any of any other drops of wisdom that you want to leave us with I think just because we mentioned it at the start of the show if you're getting woken up remember you were saying about being woken up at a certain time we've like flooded with intuition I feel like those messages that you get in your gut at like 3 a.

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It's that's your that's your higher self like you're in a quiet deep sleep and it's just like cool this is the quietest she's been all day here you go here's some wisdom so I feel like it's that time because it's you know the longest we've been quiet for and so yeah following like I adopted my daughter that's a whole other story but like through messages at that time I've yet planned trips I've created businesses I've done so many things and I know you were sharing about the same saying that you know when you get that intuition you know that that's just like guns blazing time yeah I love that too that that thought that we're asleep we're in that depth we're just kind of like there's not much going on if there is that guidance that needs to come through pay attention to what comes through in the middle of the night like yeah like you were saying I was waking up at 4 a.

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Right in my journal about business stuff like what am I doing oh I'll like write this shit down but I don't really know why but it is it's like listen to those nudges you know your inner guidance is never wrong you can trust it it's safe to trust it mmm yes it is safe to trust it that yeah the safety part I love that yeah mmm so much wisdom I'm excited to go back and listen to this episode thank you so much all right thanks for having me yeah my pleasure truly thanks so much for listening if you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast we'll be releasing a new episode each week so I'll catch you again on the next one