Sacred Union: How Do We Share Sacred Union In Our Offerings?

Season 1 - Episode 2: Friends and strangers keep asking us, "What is that magic between the two of you?" We usually answer, "We don't know. It's just natural." A couple since almost eleven and married for more than five years, my beloved Marie and I are exploring what we experience together as "Sacred Union". This time we talk about how we bring Sacred Union into our offerings like Sound Journeys, Ecstatic Dance, Womb Healing Journeys, Sacred Union Ceremonies, and more.

Transcript

Hello and welcome to the series about Sacred Union,

Where my wife Marie Rietzfeld and I are going to interview each other,

To share with you and to explore what we experienced together as Sacred Union.

To give a little bit of a background of what we are offering,

We basically travel around the world and we have some hotspots.

We love living on Bali,

For example,

But we've also been to Latin and South America and every now and then coming back to our home country,

Austria.

And we facilitate sound journeys,

We also facilitate yoga journeys with sound,

We facilitate womb healing ceremonies and Sacred Union ceremonies,

And we also very much into natural contraception.

Now that you know a little bit more about what we offer,

We are going to talk about one big question today,

Which is how do we share Sacred Union in our offerings?

And let me start asking you the first question.

The first question.

So how do you feel that we bring Sacred Union into the space when we facilitate a workshop or a session?

What's your specific preparation and how do you hold the space during the session so people can feel the Sacred Union?

Thank you.

So my preparation before we facilitate a workshop or a journey or a session is every time I'm connecting to myself first in a meditation,

I'm connecting to my heart,

To my Akashic field,

And I'm tuning in what is present in me right now and also already feeling into the group,

What the group will be like,

And also feeling into you,

Into Martin's energy,

Where he is at and where I maybe take on like more parts of a session depending on where you are at and where maybe I step a little bit back because I feel that you are very much in your in your masculine today for example.

And yeah this this connection and building the trust before I facilitate anything is very helpful for me because it really grounds me and it gives me the self-confidence that what I'm doing is coming from the heart and I'm giving my best.

I'm giving my 100% of love and dedication to this group and also to you because we are holding the space together.

And yeah this creates this harmony inside of me that I know that I'm able to hold the space for myself but I also can trust that you are able to hold the space from your side and together we can create this safe container where no matter if it's a woman or a man can feel really safe and held.

And yeah that's my take on that.

So Martin I would like to ask you,

We have experienced or we experience on a regular basis that men and women are sharing with us that they feel so safe in our sessions and with us.

Do you have an idea why it is that way or why they perceive it as safe?

Thank you for your sharing before and thank you also for that question.

And thank you also for that question.

And yeah I would say part of feeling safe with us is definitely the harmony in between us.

So there's never this feeling of any let's say rivalry between us or any competition or yeah one knows better than the other kind of thing.

I would say we both know quite well our part we know what we can contribute best to the session and we honor that we appreciate that and we also honor the other the partner and appreciating what they bring in and we enjoy our space when we have it and when we yeah I enjoy my space when I do whatever I do and I also feel that I can give you that space so you can enjoy what you're doing without any competition or anything and I think this brings in a harmony that because I feel like the the world what I always see is like competition and who is better and who is more and who is bigger and so on and with bringing in our individuality and complementing each other there is like this whole rivalry or competition is just not happening and I think this gives a very safe space so I would say that's one reason one reason and another reason is definitely that I have a male body,

Marie has a female body so people feel like this like the femininity and the masculinity in like the different bodies but I also have the feeling that both of us have the other gender so I the feminine and the Marie also the masculine.

Do you mean the energy?

Yeah the energy of the of the masculine and the feminine within us is also most of the time like centered and grounded and especially when we go into a session it's it's there it's not like anyone needs to kind of feed an agenda or something because they know we are together we are a couple so they feel really safe in in the space that we create and for me personally I think creating the space is one of the most important aspects and however this is done it it needs this dedication and this intention and yeah I feel that we always prepare the space well before they come and Marie said she's tuning in and feeling into the group before it comes for me for example if it's a gong journey I kind of warm up the gong and it's very interesting because by the way the gong plays I can always feel how the how the group will be so the gong already kind of reflects up front how the group is and it can play like super easy and flowing and I just stroke it once and it goes forever and it's like a very easy journey and if it needs a lot of stroking and then it might be harder for someone and that's just a nice indicator and then also with the group we I guess we are we always very intentionally setting boundaries in a way of also I would say expectations and yeah kind of expect the unexpected but if nothing is coming that's also fine so in a way preparing the boundaries in a way that we say you know whatever comes up is absolutely perfectly fine so there is no need to expect anything because you can go into 10 different sound journeys and all of them will be different there is no one sound journey like the other sound journey and yeah I can talk a lot but does this somehow answer your question yes it does thank you sure then let me find or let me feel a question for you in spirituality we have experienced quite often that there's a lot of floating and up in the air and ethereal feelings and stuff happening but it's also very important to to ground that so when you think about our sacred union and how we facilitate our sessions what helps you in anchoring the space or grounding the space grounding the people and really whatever they have experienced during one of these chinese bringing it back in and and integrating it is there anything and and integrating it is there anything yeah specific or any any recommendations or any experiences you have and you can share with us it is important to me to clear the space like energetically clear the space before we welcome the participants into the space so I'm walking around with either palo santo or sage or incense that have a good smell but also with the intention of really preparing the space to to hold what needs to be held in the upcoming session because often there are a lot of emotions coming up and it can also be quite physical for some people and I feel like if there was a different facilitator before in in the in the room there might be still some energies that are not supporting us because we need like a clean slate and this is already a beautiful way of of grounding myself and also grounding you and grounding you and then grounding the participants by subconsciously letting them know that this is a safe space it's cleared it's it's for you and whatever you need to or not need but whatever you want to go through whatever is there for you it's it's being held and then what is very very grounding before we dive into the session or into a sound journey for example no matter if it's for a couple if it's more like a sacred union journey or if it's if it's for a bigger group is really using or preparing our body with some exercises like clapping on the skin like up and down and really connecting to two different body parts to remind ourselves that we have this physical body and it's a beautiful vehicle to or it's the only vehicle that we have to to walk on this earth and we we want to appreciate it and yeah and then when we go into the sound journey setting an intention is very important because it's your it's your anchor point and it's it's the direction of what you want to explore or what you want to have answers for and yeah i feel this is always bringing you back to to to your heart into your body even though your mind might or the mind is hopefully asleep but your your your spirit can maybe drift off into different dimensions if you want to call it like that and and receive insights the intention always brings you back into your body and then i feel to really ground people when we come back out of a journey is to have a sharing circle because then it's time to really put what we have experienced into words and putting experiences into words is very very grounding and it sometimes as you know it can take people a while to find the right words and to land back in the space but it's you can you can see a shift in their eyes once they start talking and once the others have the opportunity to listen and by listening is also part of the integration and and valuing the other person and maybe also seeing the other person as a mirror because what they have experienced might be very similar to to what we have experienced but we have already forgotten it so there's a lot of opportunities to recall some insights that we had through a share sharing which is again very grounding so yeah that's these are my thoughts thank you can i add one more of course i just wanted to ask you what what do you feel is is grounding in such an energetic deep um work do you yeah do you have anything to add yeah what i immediately had to think of when you started talking is i'm also teaching kids regularly yoga and they can come from wherever from outside and being like super energized and super like jumping around and i always invite them to sit down in cross-legged sitting sitting position and we close our eyes and we simply take three deep breaths together and that's just i always do this at the beginning and at the end of the practice and this works miracles for kids also for adults yes but it's it's even for kids um it's beautiful to see how on one side we have kind of completely disconnected from our breath and from this beautiful way because the breath breath means life there's a reason like in in yoga it's the life force and without the breath we would die within minutes and once we know how to handle the breath how we can work with the breath and how we can direct the breath hold the breath bring it out and in through the nose or through the mouth we have a great tool to yeah basically calm our body or energize our body and yeah it's kind of a forgotten forgotten miracle what we can do with our breath and it even works with kids and it's super grounding because it's breath is our connection to this life here yeah that's what i wanted to add i love this edition yeah breath look is so powerful any other question for me i think it's your turn no so this was already the next question what i have to add okay i want to ask you a question regarding um i want to ask you a question regarding communication during our session and let me quickly for the listeners explain um the sound journeys that we are facilitating so most of the time it's me sitting in the middle or yeah mostly in the middle with the big gong the big drums the crystal balls so i have more than like big instruments and being static and marie is the fairy flying around and coming with the small instruments when someone is going through a hard time she's floating around and just holding the space being there so yeah i was wondering how you feel and if you can share the communication between us because we we cannot talk during the sound journey so how do you feel when to do what and yeah what to do so it kind of harmonizes with what i'm doing yeah this kind of unspoken connection during the sound journey during the sound journey i love that yes um to me it has the more practical aspect which is so it has a practical and a more telepathical aspect and i will start with the practical one which is when i like take an instrument because i feel it's it's it suits what you in the center are um playing and i want to blend it in and yeah weave it into into the into the sound most of the time i take it and then i i try to have eye contact with you and and quickly show you like that's what i would like to play now are you fine with that and most of the time you're just smiling and then i know okay i can go ahead um and sometimes you give me like i think it's like a sign with your hand or is it where i receive a sign of like stop for a moment not now in a few minutes and then i know the gong needs more space right now or the drum needs more space right now and i step a little back and i'm more there energetically for the group and and once he kind of gets softer again once you are getting soft again with with the energy i know now it's my turn to complement what um what you're doing and the other aspect is i feel yeah almost telepathic skills that we have developed over the last years where it's not really needed to to first make eye contact and like kind of ask you if that's fine if it's if if that's also what you feel that it fits it's more like i feel an an impulse that it's the right thing to do right now to to blend in a certain instrument or my voice and i am there is no doubt for me so it just feels like so clear that this is what is needed right now for for us and for the group and when when this happens i i love it the most because then i know that we are completely in flow and that we are completely um yeah connected towards to to each other and i think i forgot to mention before as a as a preparation before a session it's also very important to me that we are like holding hands for a moment looking each other into the eyes and um hugging each other and we have like this little sentence that we usually say of um yeah let's let's create magic and let's have a beautiful session with beautiful participants and this is to me like the intention for being able to use the telepathic ability in this session with you yes does this answer your question thank you yes do you have one more question for me as well do you have one more question for me as well of course i have one more for you did you ever have the experience that you felt that one of our participants did not feel safe and if yes what did you do in this case to make this person feel safe that's a good question and not easy to answer i guess it's kind of hard to know because most of the time yeah people just don't share when they didn't feel safe but with the sharing cycle that marie mentioned at the beginning we also and that's kind of part of setting the boundaries in a in a positive way of whatever's on your heart please share it you can share anything with us and i personally learned and i think you can feel that as well is at the beginning when we started doing our our sessions i was always observing everyone and just checking in or trying to see if they feel how they feel basically and if someone did not feel safe someone did not feel or if i could see that someone did not feel like fine or something i tried to alter my program or my playing but i realized quickly that it's not possible to make it like right for everyone so i took a step back and realized for myself the only thing i can do is to give 100% myself 100% yeah what i have to to offer i can be 100% true in how i share what i have to offer and if someone can take it or not is then not up to me and and yeah so with that said no one actually ever said that they don't feel safe which doesn't mean that they didn't from our experience we we could not see anyone that did not feel safe and it's also i guess a matter of um yeah where they're at in their journey because some just cannot drop in because they're not not ready yet maybe and on the opposite side we had a few experiences where participants were were going through very deep journeys let's let's call it that way in a way that yeah i've never seen the exorcist but it looked i guess very much like i think i've seen a trailer once it looked very much like a big thing was going through them and yeah once experienced like it was a one-hour sound journey and participant like for 45 minutes going through a very heavy time and it's always a fine line to to walk between how much do you let someone go through their own process and how much do you show okay we are we are here that's the safety you were talking about and what we normally do is when something like like this happens that it can be cramping of the fingers it can be like very like with the face making like weird faces or something we just omarie the fairy just comes with an instrument and yeah just kind of flying gently flying around this person showing that you know in case you need something we are there but still letting them go through their own journey and and go through their own experience but having the feeling that they are safe whatever they are going through and we had this a few times and yeah it always worked out beautifully they were like the most peaceful participants at the end of the journey so it can be a tough journey but um at the end it always turned out really really beautiful so yeah but so far no one has said that they didn't feel safe didn't feel safe good thank you you're welcome any last words that you want to share any maybe any insights we had that we can we can share of bringing in and again the sacred union it can be partner it can be yeah two very good friends so it's yeah sacred union basically for us means like this feeling this oneness can be with an instrument can be with a friend can be with your partner um so yeah any anything you can you can share any recommendations or or eye open us let's call it eye open us any eye openers we had during our chinese that we can quickly share yes one eye opener for me was that other realization when i wear a uni-egg as a facilitator during a session it gives me so much more trust and self-confidence in in myself and being able to hold um a big group of people and without a uni-egg and i thought like that's so interesting but i think i i realized that having um or wearing a uni-egg of course there are specific crystals which amplify or which um support different energies but still from my experience in in general it doesn't really matter which crystal it is but any uni-egg is really um yeah boosting women with self-confidence it was like that in my case and and yeah it just lets me experience me as a woman and knowing that it's important to be connected to my body and and my womb and that i am a powerful woman and i can i can hold space for people to help them experience healing so yeah once i learned that i most of the time wear my uni-egg if that's what you wanted all that works is is worth sharing infinitely thank you so much for sharing thank you so much for listening and yeah if you want to go through a specific topic just let us know in the comments or through the reviews and we're more than happy to yeah walk through that specific topic thank you so much much love and much love and kisses see you next time