The Biology Of Belief with Dr. Bruce Lipton

Join me, with Dr. Bruce Lipton, renowned cell biologist, founder of epigenetics and internationally recognized leader in bridging science and spirit. Dr. Lipton shares in great depth about the power of your energy, thoughts, beliefs and emotions and the importance of managing stress for greater health and immunity.

Transcript

Welcome,

My friend,

To the USU podcast.

I'm Julie Riesler,

And I am so honored to have you here.

In this show and community,

You'll find huge-hearted overachievers who want to turn on their inner light,

To learn to trust their heart wisdom,

And help raise the consciousness of this planet,

Just like you.

Whether I'm sharing a conversation with a fellow lightworker,

Luminary,

Or a solo cast about navigating life as an empath,

My goal is the same,

To help you turn your fear into faith,

To remember that you are sacred,

To realign with your highest potential,

To be fully self-expressed as your USU.

Are you ready to join me on this journey?

It's time to listen to your inner guidance and follow your soul's purpose.

Never forget,

The chances of being born were one in 14 trillion.

In other words,

You are pure positive divine light,

Born to shine,

To live from your heart,

And to be your fullest USU.

Well hello there USU listeners.

Oh my goodness,

You are in for one of the biggest treats of your lifetime.

I'm serious.

This is such a gift.

I just make sure you get your notepad.

I don't know.

I'm not sure yet.

You'll see with the conversation.

But you're in for such a powerful conversation.

I have here today,

Dr.

Bruce Lipton.

I wanted to tell you all about him.

I know many of you are a huge fan.

If you're new to Dr.

Bruce Lipton,

Then you are going to become a fan as well.

I know it.

Let me tell you about our guest.

Bruce Lipton,

PhD,

Is a cell biologist and lecturer.

He is an internationally recognized leader in bridging science and spirit.

Bruce was on the faculty of the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and later performed groundbreaking stem cell research at Stanford University.

He is the bestselling author of The Biology of Belief,

The Honeymoon Effect,

And co-author with Steve Baierman of Spontaneous Evolution.

Bruce received the 2009 prestigious Goi Peace Award that was in Japan in honor of the scientific contribution to world harmony.

This is our guest today.

For more information,

Visit brucelipton.

Com.

All of this will be in the show notes.

But I don't even want to,

I just,

It's time for me to stop talking.

Bruce,

We are so excited to have you here.

And may the internet energetic realm work in our favor.

We already said the intention.

I am so happy to be here with you so very much and actually happy with the audience that we have because the audience represents the cultural creatives,

The people who are looking for answers outside of the box,

Because clearly the answers are not inside the box we're in right now.

It's kind of messy.

Yes.

Okay.

Can we start there?

I mean,

I've,

I'm going to manage myself.

I always say I have thousands of questions.

We're going to bring it in.

But I love what you just said,

Answers out of the box.

Can we just start?

I mean,

Where,

Where do you,

Someone who's listening,

There's so much being firehosed at all of my beautiful listeners,

Myself included with information that's not accurate,

That's not helpful.

Maybe we could just start there with what do you,

Where do,

What do we do?

Where do we start with this?

What's being told to us versus what we need to know for our health,

Our wellbeing?

I'll just,

I'll open it up there.

Okay.

It's a very broad question.

I will try to narrow it down as best I can because it's a very important question at this time in the history of our planet and the history of human civilization.

The first big overriding thing that people are not talking about,

Which is the biggest problem of all,

And no one's,

We're not talking about it.

And I go every now and then I hear a little blip where,

Oh,

They mentioned the word and then disappears and it's called mass extinction.

And I go,

What do you mean mass extinction?

I go,

We always have the belief in a Darwinian view that evolution was a gradual change over millions of years with slight changes that led to all the different forms of life.

Turns out that's not true.

That evolution has start and stops,

Jumping points,

Meaning it builds up and then something happens.

It starts,

It goes down and then builds up again.

Five times this has happened in the history of the planet.

They're called a mass extinction where greater than 70% of all life forms disappear because of some cataclysmic event.

The last mass extinction,

66 million years ago,

There were dinosaurs and lush tropical forests.

The whole planet was healthy and vibrant and a comet hit near Mexico in the Yucatan Peninsula.

The comet was so big when it hit the earth,

It upended the web of life and up to 90% of life got wiped out,

Including all the dinosaurs,

Which are not here anymore.

Of course,

They all got wiped out as well.

And the relevance is that's called a mass extinction.

And then after mass extinction,

Everything builds up.

So we're now built up again and here we got a whole planet filled with all kinds of life.

And guess what?

We are now finding from science,

Now finding,

Let me emphasize this,

Only about 15 years ago did science recognize that we are in what is called the sixth mass extinction of life.

We're losing species of organisms on this planet faster than in previous mass extinctions.

But here's the problem.

Up until now,

All of them have been natural events,

Tectonic plates moving,

Volcanic activity,

Overriding everything or a comet hitting the earth.

This mass extinction human behavior is undermining the web of life that is no longer sustainable for us or for many of the organisms that were part of our community of life.

And so we are in a mass extinction.

Just to give you an idea of the numbers,

So it's like a real number thing.

Let's see,

How long ago was it?

It was 1970.

World Wildlife Foundation did a survey,

How many total animals on the entire planet?

And they just redid that survey again.

So it's 50 years.

And I said,

What happened in 50 years?

The answer is two thirds of animal life on this planet have disappeared.

We only have one third the number of animals that were here just 50 years ago.

In other words,

The population is drastically two thirds gone.

And I go,

Wow.

And I go,

In Germany,

They've been doing a survey of their insects population.

And they're doing it 27 years.

The last reading of the insect population this last year showed a 75% reduction in the number of insects.

Now,

A lot of people go,

Oh,

Hey,

Who needs a mosquito anyway?

And I go,

OK,

But how about all the honeybees?

Well,

They're very important.

Without the honeybees,

We don't fertilize,

You know,

Pollinate the crops,

And then we don't have food.

So losing the honeybees,

Big,

You know,

Effect on human life.

The number of fish,

Since 1950,

90% of the fish population have been lost from the ocean.

By 2048,

Science has recognized,

Conservative figure,

2048,

There will be no fish left in the ocean.

Human behavior,

Overfishing,

Polluting the water,

And destroying the breeding grounds.

Humans have essentially decimated the fish population.

So 2048,

Not a big long time from now,

A world Earth with no fish in the ocean.

That's coming up very quickly.

OK?

Our civilization is facing what NASA calls an irreversible collapse.

Irreversible means it's going to collapse,

And it's not coming back at this moment.

OK?

So basically,

That's what the nature of the report from NASA.

OK?

I'm adding all these numbers up and telling all these numbers,

Hey,

What the heck does it all mean?

The answer means very simply this,

Is that right now,

Our population of life on this planet is disappearing.

And human behavior is now the cause.

So it's like,

Wait a minute,

All the other causes were something we had nothing to do with.

For the last 15 years,

Science has owned that we're in a mass extinction.

It's not like it's sneaking up on us.

We already know it.

And that human civilization is responsible for the loss.

And I go,

Well,

Then who do you think is going to help stop the loss?

And it's like,

Oh,

Yeah,

Humans.

Because we're the ones that are creating it.

We're the only ones that can stop it.

And the point is,

This is a wake up call.

Nature has been telling us.

You can look at all the symptoms on this planet,

Like economic upheaval,

Racial,

Religious strife,

Political boundaries being all messed up,

All kinds of every one of these symptoms,

COVID.

And you go,

These are symptoms.

I go,

Symptoms of something bigger,

The bigger top thing is mass extinction.

All the other things are signs of an instability and a breakdown.

And I go,

So what's the issue here?

Well,

First of all,

Let's recognize this.

Humans have caused this problem.

And humans are the ones that are going to have to help change it.

But the thing they're going to have to change is behavior.

Because the way we have been living on the planet,

Our conventional way of politics,

Economics,

People dealing with populations has led to this problem.

And therefore,

If you want to stop the problem,

You can't use the same thinking that created the problem.

That's Albert Einstein.

Yeah.

It says,

If the thinking we've used has created this problem,

Then we have to change the thinking of how we live.

And this is why I'm so honored to be here with you,

Julie,

On this program,

Because the audience are people who can institute changes.

And so just to give an overview very quickly so people can see what's going on,

I'll give the story of a caterpillar metamorphosing into a butterfly.

A caterpillar,

As an organism,

Is one of the most voracious organisms on the planet.

I took pictures for use in my lecture.

I have a milkweed plant,

Which is a nice big green plant.

But it's a favorite plant for monarch butterflies.

So they lay their eggs on it.

And then a caterpillar's hatch out.

And then I show three days after the caterpillar's hatch out,

There's not one leaf left on the plant.

The caterpillars ate every damn leaf off the plant.

They're voracious.

They ate up their environment.

Then what?

They go into a cocoon,

And out of that cocoon comes a butterfly with the lightest touch on the planet.

The butterfly hardly even lands on the planet.

OK?

So what's the point?

A transition from the most voracious to the one with the lightest touch is the story of caterpillar to butterfly.

And I say,

This is the story of human civilization at this moment.

We are currently in the caterpillar phase.

We are so voracious,

We've eaten up everything.

We're destroying the resources,

Taking everything out of the planet,

Throwing our garbage back into the planet.

And it's like,

OK,

Guess what?

You reach the end of this.

We are now destroying the planet in the sense that it's on edge.

And I say,

Well,

We need this metamorphosis.

I go,

Well,

What happens?

And this is the point that I wanted to emphasize.

The caterpillar,

Big living organism,

Got millions of cells in it.

Consider a cell a miniature human,

Which they are.

OK?

So let's just say for a minute,

We're all cells inside a giant caterpillar,

Eating up the environment,

Just like we've been doing in our world right here,

Eating everything and everything.

And there's a point where there's nothing left in a caterpillar.

There's nothing more to eat.

And I said,

What does it do?

It goes into a cocoon.

I go,

So what's happening in a cocoon?

Metamorphosis,

Caterpillar in a butterfly.

I said,

Yeah,

But what's happening?

The cells of the butterfly,

Excuse me,

The cells of the caterpillar,

The ones that were eating and destroying and growing and making all this stuff,

The cells are starting to lose their jobs.

Why?

Because when the caterpillar goes in a cocoon,

It's not eating anymore.

It's not moving anymore.

It's ending.

I say,

So what's happening?

Well,

If you're one of the cells in that caterpillar,

You go around and go,

Oh,

My God,

The world we know is falling apart.

People are out of work.

Cells are out of work.

There's no jobs.

There's nothing going on.

And all the cells.

And I go,

But while that's going on,

A breakdown of the caterpillar,

There are specialized cells called imaginal cells,

Visionary cells.

They see a future.

They say,

We can build something better.

OK,

We'll build a butterfly.

So I say,

Oh,

So what's happening in a cocoon?

And this is critical because I'm going to relate it exactly what's happening here.

There's a breakdown of the structure,

The loss of jobs,

The loss of economy.

All things like,

What the hell is things falling apart?

And then I say,

But simultaneously,

A bunch of those cells are coming back together to create the new thing.

OK?

So I say,

Civilization has been in a caterpillar stage,

Still is in the last phases of it right now,

Destroying the civilization and the planet in the process.

I say,

But what's happening?

Oh,

The jobs are ending.

The economy is ending.

People are out of work.

And they're looking around just like the cells in the caterpillar going,

Oh,

My god,

What am I going to do?

My life is ending here.

What the hell am I going to do?

And then I say,

But at the same time as one is coming down,

We're building something new.

I say,

So why is this relevant?

And I say,

Because if I'm a member of the population right now,

I have two choices to focus on.

One is like,

It's all coming down.

And oh,

My life is threatened.

Oh,

I'm afraid.

Oh,

I'm scared.

Oh,

That's a bad thing right there because fear is going to compromise your health.

OK?

And I say,

I could focus on this and every day see it's getting worse.

It's getting worse and scaring me more every day.

Or I could redirect my attention and say,

What are we building?

What's new?

What can we do to get out of this mess and create a better sustainable world and all that?

And I say,

Why is it relevant?

Energy is life.

When you use your energy,

You're using your life.

And if you're using your energy to look at a system falling down and being in fear and all that,

I said,

Ben,

You just wasted your energy and you're wasting your life because that's death.

It's going to be death.

But if we take that energy and put it into something that we're building that's more sustainable,

Then we're enhancing our vitality,

Enhancing our life,

And moving in a good direction.

That when you look at the news right now,

You have two choices.

You can go,

Oh,

My God,

The thing is falling apart.

And it's like,

Oh,

My life is in jeopardy.

Or I could say,

What can I do to sustain myself and improve my future?

And the answer is,

Find those groups of people that are making a positive change.

Add your energy to that.

I think there's something like the serenity prayer or something a long time ago where do something you could put your efforts into do something that you can do something about.

But don't put your efforts into something you can't do anything about because your efforts are your energy and your energy is your life.

And if you're starting to be so concerned about the whole thing falling down,

You're not enhancing your life.

You're using up your energy.

And that's death.

And so the idea is this.

You have a choice.

And I say,

Why is it affecting me and my health so much?

And here's the most important part.

There's two protection systems in biology.

And there's something driven in biology called the biological imperative.

It's the drive to survive.

It didn't exist in humans.

It existed in the first organisms that came on this planet,

Bacteria,

For example.

If you're going to try and kill a bacteria,

The bacterium is not going to go,

Oh,

OK,

Kill me.

No.

Bacterium is going to do everything in its power to stay alive as a drive.

It's below consciousness.

It was so fundamental that bacteria got it.

Well,

Humans have it big time.

I say,

Why is it relevant?

When our life is threatened,

We go into a protection mode.

That's what protection is all about.

But I said,

We have two protection modes.

We have an external protection mode called the adrenal system,

Fight or flight.

The threat's coming.

We're going to have to fight to survive or fly,

Whatever.

But I said,

We also have an internal protection system called the immune system.

OK?

I go,

So what?

I say,

The immune system uses a lot of energy when it's working,

Because if you've ever been sick,

You may have not had enough energy to get out of bed.

So I'm saying,

Ah,

The immune system uses a lot of energy.

It protects you from a threat on the inside.

OK,

Now we understood we have two protection systems.

Now I'm going to say what?

It's used for protection when our lives are threatened.

I say,

Let's go back to the original threat,

The saber-toothed tiger.

If you're out harvesting some food and a saber-toothed tiger's coming,

You damn well got to do something to survive.

You have to get ready to run.

And I go,

Well,

How do you do that?

I say,

Well,

Arms and legs.

I go,

So what?

I go,

The energy to drive your protection system,

Arms and legs,

Is the blood.

So I say,

Listen,

This is out of a textbook.

When a threat is perceived,

The blood is preferentially sent to the arms and legs.

Yeah,

The blood has the energy.

If I'm going to run from the tiger,

I want my muscles and my arms and legs to have all the energy I can get.

But I said,

The blood is preferentially sent to the arms and legs.

Where the heck was it preferentially before it was in the arms and legs?

Like the gut.

I said,

What's the function of the gut?

Growth,

Maintenance,

Cleaning the system,

Keeping it,

Repairing it,

And doing it.

So it's maintenance.

I go,

So what?

I say,

If you're being chased by a saber-toothed tiger,

Should I spend that energy maintaining my body or should I not do the maintaining right now but use that energy that I would have used,

Arms and legs,

So I could go?

I go,

That's the first thing that happens when stress hormones are released into the system.

It's going to cause the blood vessels in the gut to squeeze shut.

I say,

Why?

Because when the blood vessels in the gut squeeze shut,

The blood now preferentially is going to go to the arms and legs instead of the gut.

And that's when people have what they call butterflies in the stomach when they get fear.

I say,

What's the fear?

Get ready to run.

Get ready to run,

Shut down the blood vessels in the gut.

I go,

Oh,

That's that fluttery that you feel,

That nervousness.

That's the blood vessel squeezing shut so the blood goes outside,

Butterflies in the stomach.

That's the step of stress hormone shutting off growth.

And I say,

What else is going to,

I say the immune system uses tremendous amount of energy because when you're really sick,

You can't get out of bed.

And I go,

Oh,

Stress hormones also shut off the immune system to save energy.

The simple logic is I have a bacterial infection that could give me a bad case of diarrhea and I'm being chased by a saber-toothed tiger.

Which one do you want to deal with?

Both?

Split the energy?

Huh.

The heck with the bacteria because if the tiger catches you,

You don't have a bacterial problem anymore.

And so the idea is very critical.

Stress hormones shut off the immune system.

I say,

Why?

Because if I'm being chased by the tiger,

I don't need to worry about the bacteria at this time.

So I go,

So why is it relevant?

Well,

It's so effective at shutting off the immune system that doctors give patients who are going to receive a transplant,

A kidney,

A heart,

A lung from a foreign person.

Well,

When you put a foreign organ in your body,

Your immune system says not self and reject it.

So listen how powerful stress hormones are that before the patient receives a transplant,

The physicians give the patient stress hormones because then when they do the transplant,

The immune system is not going to be functioning to destroy it right away.

Wow.

Okay.

So I say,

Oh,

Stress hormones are so good at shutting off the immune system that they use them therapeutically.

So I say,

So what happens when I'm being chased by that saber tooth tiger,

I shut down the growth and maintenance of my body and I shut down the immune system.

You know,

That sounds very disastrous.

I go,

When the system evolved hundreds of thousands of years ago,

When did we use that fight or flight?

I said,

When a saber tooth tiger was coming.

So I said,

Well,

How long did you use it for?

Well,

If you escaped the tiger 10 minutes,

So you shut off everything for 10 minutes,

But tiger is gone.

You're safe.

Everything comes back.

And I go,

And what about today?

And I go,

The tiger is chasing us 24 seven,

Three 65.

We're all under stress continuously.

Whether I'm going to keep my job with them,

Going to have money for the food,

Whether I can pay for my healthcare,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah.

I say,

Oh my God,

You are shutting down your growth and you're inhibiting your immune system under stress.

I say,

This is why the population is so sick because we used to say,

Oh,

Disease is due to genes.

Let me give you a fact.

Less than 1% of disease is connected to gene.

Less than 1% then where the heck is the health crisis from?

And the answer is stress.

And I say,

Oh my God,

Stress isn't compromising our growth and our immune system and it's not shutting off.

It's staying the stress is on and on and on and on.

I say,

So what can you do about it?

And I say,

Well,

Better damn well get out of the stress because that's where the illness is coming from.

And I say,

Where are we getting stress?

I say,

You get it everywhere.

And now today you're going to get the biggest stress because today the plague is coming.

Plague is coming.

COVID.

We're all going to die.

I go,

Look,

We've had flus every year.

COVID is a flu.

That's a fact.

Same virus.

We have coronaviruses that have been in our bodies for millennia,

But the immune system learns to work with them.

The COVID is a new virus.

So what does it mean?

It's a little more challenged to the immune system than normal.

And I go,

So what?

I go,

The population has already compromised their immune system in the US.

60%.

That's more than half.

60% of the population has at least one chronic disease that is taxing the immune system.

And then,

But the bigger number is 40% of Americans have two or more chronic diseases.

And I go,

What does it mean?

Your immune system is compromised.

It's trying to keep up with the damn chronic diseases that we have.

Then I throw a new virus in there and I say,

Well,

Now I have to fight this third thing all of a sudden.

I go,

Guess what?

When people are healthy and not under stress,

They get infected by the virus and they have symptoms that are so mild,

They never went to a doctor,

They never went to a hospital.

And I say,

Why is it relevant?

Because I say,

Where did the numbers come from of millions of people dying?

I said,

Oh,

Mortality,

This is a little mathematical tricky.

OK?

Yeah.

Yeah,

Yeah,

Yeah.

Mortality is the number of people that died divided by the number of people that have the disease.

I'll give a simple example.

Five people die,

10 people have the disease.

How lethal is that?

The answer is 10 divided into 5 is 50%.

50% of the population,

That's a lethal disease.

OK,

Wait.

But then I find out,

Wait,

100 people have the virus,

5 people died and 100 people had the virus.

I go,

Oh,

That's 20% mortality,

Not 50%.

Every time the number in the bottom gets bigger,

The number of the mortality gets lower.

And we were told that millions of people are going to die because they believe 3% to 5% or 6% of the people with the virus die because the number of people that reported was such a small number that went to the hospital or went to the doctor.

I say,

Why?

Because once they started doing testing,

They found massive numbers of people have been infected,

But they didn't go to a doctor and they didn't go to the hospital.

So their numbers are not included in mortality.

The numbers are small.

I say,

Yeah,

But if you add all the people that have the virus now that we've tested it and put that underneath and divide it,

Then mortality rate is nothing near what they talked about,

OK?

Because it's back down to higher than average,

But not millions of people in the US.

That's what they were talking about.

OK?

I go,

Why does the US have such a high mortality rate?

And the answer is not because the virus is virulent,

It's because Americans are compromised.

Their health issues,

2 thirds of the population already have one chronic disease and over a third of that population has two or more chronic diseases.

And I say,

So what?

Is the virus virulent?

I say,

Not as virulent as the mortality rate.

The mortality rate reflects people who are compromised.

That is why who gets affected first?

People in nursing homes who are end of life compromised.

They'll die first.

Why?

They're already compromised.

Then who else?

Those that are severely compromised.

Well,

That's 40% of the population right there.

And all of a sudden it's like,

Is the virus as virulent as you say it is?

I go,

No,

It's not.

But we are weaker than healthy.

So much weaker that we are compromised and now the mortality rate is high.

If you take care of yourself,

If you eat well and don't eat industrial farm stuff,

Which has a lot of poisons and toxic elements in it.

If you look at industrial farming,

I always joke,

I show a slide of the farmer in the field wearing a hazard suit,

Spraying the crops you're going to eat with stuff that is so hazardous he has to wear a suit to put it in a plant and then you eat the plant.

So eating natural and healthy food,

Eating more supplements,

Vitamins and nutrients because our food has been short.

Exercising,

Meaning go out and do something,

Walk,

Move,

Why?

Because that enhances the power of the circulatory system,

Which is the delivery system for the immune system.

And then most importantly is get the hell out of the stress.

I said,

What can you do?

I say,

Turn off a damn TV set because the TV set is not enhancing your vitality.

It's giving you every reason why you should be getting back into protection,

Which is then shutting down your growth and your immune system.

And all of a sudden I say,

Well,

They're making things worse.

I go,

Yeah,

They surely are because the fear of the disease is worse than the COVID itself.

And yet we're in that problem.

And I say,

So you're all looking at all this thing falling down,

It's falling apart and you're going,

Oh my God,

I'm threatened,

I'm the caterpillar and the caterpillar is dying.

I go,

Yes,

It is because the caterpillar is killing the planet.

Human behavior is destroying the planet.

And it's time for us to stop focusing on old behavior and start enhancing what are the things we can do to enhance our environment?

What are the things we can do to cut down on our destruction of the environment,

Which is unbelievable,

The amount that's going on?

What can we do to conserve energy?

And all of a sudden you say,

Oh my God,

There's something we can do.

I say,

As long as you're not in stress,

You can do it.

Because when you're in stress,

You shut yourself down.

You don't go out,

You go in.

The stress is close me off from the threat.

And it's like,

Oh,

Well,

Now you're not connected anymore.

Now you're in a lot of trouble.

So long story shorter,

So we can get to a better question,

Is simply this.

The world is going through a mass extinction event,

The sixth one.

It's created by our inability to maintain our environment.

That we have to return to a behavior that the indigenous people had on this planet.

Because the indigenous people were the ones that originally said,

This is a garden and we are gardeners.

And then the modern thing comes in and says,

Oh,

This is for us to do whatever the heck we want to do it because we can dominate and control nature.

And I go,

How's that working?

We've destroyed ourselves.

OK,

So it says we must change.

And so your audience to me,

Julie,

Is the most important thing because they said,

What if I stop contributing to the downfall and put my energy into the rising up?

I said,

No,

Then you have to get rid of the system.

And when the system is breaking down,

I said,

Why?

It's scary.

The caterpillar is breaking down.

I go,

Because the caterpillar system is destructive.

You can't build the sustainable world we need to live in on the foundation of our world today because the foundation of the world is creating mass extinction.

So basically it says,

I'm looking at the caterpillar coming down.

I'm not nervous about it.

In fact,

I'm very appreciative of it coming down,

Knowing that its demise is required before I can build the new one up.

I need a foundation start.

And the foundation we have now is so destructive,

We're facing that extinction.

So the most important thing I can tell the viewers right now is stop watching that damn TV because all it's going to do is give you the bad news.

The bad news is going to invoke more stress hormones,

More stress hormones,

Shut your immune system down,

And you're going to get sicker than you ever were before.

And now it's time to say,

Let's join into community to build something,

Something that's sustainable,

Something that works with our environment and it works with communities and takes care of our children,

Takes care of the air,

Takes care of the water,

Be nurturers.

And that actually is the character of mammals.

And as mammals,

We're supposed to be nurturers,

But we've been raping the garden and now it's dying and we're going to blame the garden.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wow.

I mean,

It's really exquisite what you're saying and it's powerful.

And I keep thinking,

Really we're in a pandemic of stress.

It's this pandemic of stress has created,

I didn't realize the numbers were 60% of Americans.

60% with one chronic disease,

40%,

Two or more.

Two or more.

This is why so many Americans take five pills every day just to hold back the chronic illness that they have.

I remember studying you a little bit.

I got my master's degree in an integrative health.

I did health and wellness coaching and it was this beautiful integrative university.

I remember studying epigenetics and we talked,

I know that's something that you have studied and founded and talked about.

And I had thought it was 10%,

But 1% of disease you said.

Like that's even- That's the current data.

1% of disease.

I had to like,

People wake up,

Wake up.

Let me just add,

Because I was a research scientist in a medical school.

Let me offer something.

Yeah.

If you take 90% of your money to fight a 1% of disease,

You've wasted your money.

People are not suffering from genetic issues at all.

They're suffering from other issues that we can manage.

And this is why it's so important for us to say,

We put our money in the wrong place.

We want to enhance health.

We want to do it through consciousness.

We want to do it through spirituality,

Not through pharmaceutical drugs.

They don't work.

As a matter of fact,

300,

000 people die per year with prescription drugs.

I go,

Why is that relevant?

I say,

35 or so thousand people die from illegal drugs and we have a war on illegal drugs.

And I say,

300,

10 times as many people are dying from pharmaceutical drugs.

They go,

That's the cost of doing medicine.

I say,

That's too damn expensive.

We shouldn't be dying that much from pharmaceutical stuff.

But it's a private corporation.

Its interest is to make money.

And everyone thinks,

Oh,

They're out to take care of me.

And I go,

You got to wake up,

Folks.

Pharmaceutical company doesn't give a damn about you until you buy the drugs.

And if you stop buying the drugs,

They care less about you.

And if the drugs kill you,

They don't care either.

Why?

They make enough money selling the drugs that they pay off all the petty court cases that accuse them of killing people.

They pay that off because they know they're doing it.

But they also know they're making more money than they're paying for the complaints.

So then,

Hey,

Fine.

If people die,

We'll just pay them.

And it's like the idea of a friendly banker.

Oh,

My banker loves me.

I go,

Your banker loves you when you have money.

If you don't have money,

Bankers doesn't have as much love for you anymore.

It's contingent.

And I go,

The pharmaceutical company loves me.

I go,

As long as you buy the drugs.

And the issue is,

Since drugs are a contributing factor to the loss of life,

I think they're not that friendly because they don't really care.

In fact,

I'll give you a fact that I know from pharmaceutical execs.

They test a new drug.

They find out,

Oh,

Some people die from it.

OK,

So you think,

Oh,

We shouldn't do that drug.

No,

No,

No.

They do a bean counting statistics.

How many people are going to buy the drug?

How much money will we make in selling the drug?

And how much money will we lose in court cases where people complain that the drug killed them and they do simple mathematics?

If I can make more money than I have to pay to the court cases,

Then how will the court cases?

We'll just pay them.

We're going to make more money.

And that's exactly what they do.

They approve a drug knowing people are going to die,

But knowing,

Hey,

We got enough money to pay for it.

It's like,

Whoa,

Are these my friends?

You bet they're not.

They're their own friends.

Well,

Part of me wants to ask you,

I want to come back to you because you talked about spirituality and consciousness and this rising up.

But I have to ask you because I'm curious.

Everyone's talking about,

OK,

The vaccine.

I mean,

It's an interesting one.

I have kids that are being indoctrinated.

You have to do this.

And I'm,

Don't get the vaccine.

You don't want to put stuff that hasn't.

I'm curious what your take is,

If you have it or you can share it.

First of all,

Let me tell you something about vaccines.

Vaccines the way they're introduced to the body are non-biological in a sense.

Biology has an intelligence to it.

It has more intelligence than humans.

Why?

My cells,

Which created this body,

Have technologies that humans can't even match.

So when we start talking down about cells,

How stupid they are,

I go,

Hey,

They created us and we can't even recreate their technology.

So I go,

So why is it relevant?

Because there is a natural immune system.

Of course people have had the immune system and it worked for thousands and thousands and thousands of years before medical people got here.

Well,

Then who injected them?

I said,

Nobody.

I said,

How did the immune system work?

And this is the screw up.

Anything that gets in through the mouth,

Nose,

The ears,

The eyes,

Opening in the head,

Anything that gets in has to go down the throat.

I said,

So what?

There are things called tonsils.

And in the textbook,

It's wrong because in the textbook they say tonsils are there to protect you from organisms that come into your body.

I said,

They don't do the protection.

They do the education of what came into the body.

They inform the immune system of everything that was in the environment so the immune system can make a response to it one way or the other,

Accepting it or causing an immune response.

This is why babies stick everything in the world into their mouth.

And it's an instinctual inoculation project because everything that goes in bypass,

Go down by the tonsils,

The tonsils learn,

That's their learning function,

So that they can inform the immune system to,

Okay,

This is what's in our world and this is what we have to deal with.

And so the idea is there's a natural immune system.

It's oral.

If I take a needle and inject it into my body,

I bypass all the centuries of intelligence that knows what's going on in the environment and how it got here.

All of a sudden,

If your cells and somebody put a needle in and right next to your neighborhood is this big pile of trash,

You know,

Swamp,

It just got there and all the cells are going,

Where the hell did that come from?

Nobody saw it come in and there it is.

I go,

That confuses the immune system.

Immune system has normal ways of doing it.

I'm not against vaccines if the vaccines are orally presented.

But if you take a needle and inject it,

I know you thought your intelligence is going to enhance the immune system.

Well,

Definitely not.

It compromises the immune system because the immune system going,

Where the hell did that come from?

Who's in charge to recognize where this is and what it is and how it got here so we can deal with it?

No knowledge.

Just showed up.

And I go,

This is a major problem.

And a child's immune system doesn't fully engage until after two and probably by three.

I say,

That's when it's fully starting to engage.

I say,

Well,

What about when it's one?

Are you kidding me?

It's in development.

It's not even finished yet.

And then what are you going to do?

Throw injection in the system that bypasses the system.

And then the thing that's developing is going,

Where the hell did that come from?

And the point is,

This is weakening our system.

It's compromising us.

And now we know there are many compromises from vaccines.

And it's important.

We once had a fear that swine flu of 1976.

It was a made up situation because only two or three people were so-called identified with a swine flu.

But the government was pushing for everybody to get inoculated.

Well,

Thank God the government is such a boom doggone when it comes to projects.

It took them a long time to get the swine flu vaccine into the world.

But by then,

People looked around and go,

There's no swine flu here.

I'm not going to get it.

Who got it?

The kids and the old people because they were institutionalized,

Both of them.

I say,

So what?

The government had to spend billions of dollars as insurance money to pay off the number of people that got something called Guillain-Barré syndrome,

A nervous system disorder.

From what?

From vaccination.

It was the vaccine that caused more problems than any swine flu that ever showed up.

And it still causes problems.

And what's in that vaccine?

Son of a gun.

The drug companies got a law passed that they don't even have to tell you what's in the vaccine.

And then they're going to force you to take the vaccine without even telling you what the hell's in that vaccine.

And we know that many of the components they have been using are toxic.

Mercury and ether,

Formaldehyde.

These are things to preserve animals when they're dead.

And I say,

These are preservatives.

You don't put formaldehyde in your body while it's part of a vaccine.

Do I have to tell you as a drug manufacturer what's in it?

No.

The law said I can inject you with stuff and not even tell you what the hell's in it.

I'm a scientist.

I'm not going to let anybody inject anything under my skin.

They have to put me in a jail or whatever it is.

Why?

It's a violation of my human rights.

You're going to stick something in my body.

You're not even telling me what the hell it is.

Oh,

I'm not letting you do it.

And I wouldn't let them happen to kids.

Kids need oral vaccines.

They were doing oral inoculations in their infancy.

Let them continue to do that and create it that way.

That's natural,

And that will make it work right.

But a violation that humans,

Again,

Can dominate and control nature and decide,

I want the immune system to do what I want.

I'm injecting this and that.

It goes,

It may not respond any way that you want because it's its own intelligence beyond us.

Yikes.

Yikes.

What would I do with COVID?

Well,

I'd do what I probably already have done.

Get it.

And I go,

Why?

I go,

Hell no.

You know why?

I'm not that unhealthy.

I take care of my health.

And that's why 90-some percent of the people that got infected didn't have enough of a symptomology to it to go to a doctor or go to a hospital.

I say,

And that's why the numbers that have the virus are not accurate when they do mortality.

They discounted 90-some percent of the people that had the virus but had no symptoms that would cause them to go see a professional.

And I say,

Well,

You've left out those numbers.

You put those numbers back into the equation and mortality rate is nothing near what you're screaming and yelling at people and scaring them because as you're scaring them,

The stress hormones they have just released are now compromising them.

You're making it worse.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've seen this with my mom who's in her late 70s.

She's,

I mean,

I love her.

She's definitely aged a lot in the last six months.

She was very active,

Used to volunteer,

Dance.

I mean,

And she looks like she has aged a good five to seven years.

And it's tough.

She did it.

Yeah.

Not look like it.

She did.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's been,

It's been hurt.

The reason is this.

We were not designed to live in protracted protection.

Right.

That she's protected.

Oh,

The old people like you're 70,

You're going to die.

I'm 76.

I give a damn.

No,

I'm healthy.

I don't care.

I'm going out and playing.

I'm going to have friends that we don't wear face masks and we're close and we like each other.

And if I did get COVID,

Which I think I already had,

Guess what?

It's a flu.

I'm going to live through it.

I'm not going to die.

But if I'm compromised,

I'm going to die.

And if I put myself,

Lock myself up,

That's called protection.

I say,

What's the difference between growth and protection?

This is critical growth.

An organism moves to a stimulus with their arms open to take it in.

That's called assimilation.

Assimilation is growth.

I want this.

I take it in growth.

What about protection?

I go,

Uh-uh,

Close it off.

I don't want to take anything in.

I go,

Well,

You can't maintain protection.

That'll kill you.

And then you scare people.

Don't go out of your house.

Don't do this.

Don't do that.

And I say,

What are they doing?

I'm protecting myself.

I said,

Well,

You shut off life because life is being open.

Protection is closing it.

I'll give a very simple example.

I'm old enough to remember when they used to do air raid tests because we thought the Russians were going to bomb us.

And we built bomb shelters.

I go,

What's a bomb shelter?

There's a place to hide while the bombs are coming down.

I go,

So what?

OK,

Take a community and a normal,

Healthy community.

Schools are going.

Shops are open.

The environment,

The ecology,

Everything is in growth.

When an air raid siren comes,

I say,

What about growth?

I say,

Everybody,

Let's go to the job.

Where do they go?

They're going down the basement.

I say,

Well,

They're in the basement.

What's about what's going on up here?

I say,

No growth.

It stopped.

It stopped.

I say,

But when it was just an air raid test,

No big deal.

You know why?

15,

20 minutes later,

You get out.

So they stopped work for 15 minutes and no big deal because they went back to work.

My issue is this.

What if you get in the bomb shelter and there is no all clear?

How long can you live in a bomb shelter with no all clear?

And the answer is you will die in the bomb shelter.

Why?

Well,

You only have so much food,

Water,

And air.

If you use it all up and you're still underground,

Where are you going to get your water,

Food,

And air from?

Ah,

You cannot stay in a bomb shelter.

And I say,

But the news media is putting our consciousness into a bomb shelter.

Your mother was told to disconnect and hide and be safe and do all that stuff.

I say,

But life was doing something.

When you're not doing anything,

Use it or lose it is the name of the game.

And it applies to every part of the body,

Not just the muscles.

Everyone says,

Oh,

Yeah,

I worked real hard and I built up the muscles.

And then I stopped using it and it turned to fat.

You know,

And it goes,

Use it or lose it.

And I go,

Every part of the human body,

Including the immune system and the brain and every part is based on use it or lose it.

If you stop using the brain,

That's when dementia comes in.

Alzheimer's is part of not using that brain.

You broke the cells down because you stopped using them just as much as you broke the muscle cells down when you were no longer exercising.

And every functioning part of the body is based on use it or lose it.

Then you tell somebody,

Don't use it.

Go sit in your room,

Close yourself off,

Hide in there.

I go,

Well,

Now you've activated slow death.

I'm not using it.

The system is going to go,

Well,

If you're not using it,

We're not maintaining it.

The game's over.

That's the game.

Don't laugh because it's serious.

Well,

I just,

Yeah,

I really,

I mean,

I've been watching this.

I don't watch a lot of news and I'm thinking the things that you said to be in the cocoon and to come out as a butterfly,

We got to each really,

I mean,

Gosh,

Just managing stresses in itself,

Self-care is,

You know,

People talk about it,

But it is crucial with what you're saying.

It's,

It's,

That's what,

That's what people don't understand that your life is profoundly different if you walk outside with your heart being open to the world versus if you walk outside being closed to the world,

You cannot be in growth and protection at the same time.

Growth is open.

Protection is closed.

If I choose protection,

By definition,

I shut off growth and maintenance and then the thing falls apart.

And then your mom could age very quickly because what was keeping her alive was her activity.

If you're active,

Then the body maintains activity.

When somebody says,

Oh,

I'm too old to do that.

And I go,

Well,

Guess what?

That's the first step of aging because now you told yourself I'm not going to do it.

And if you're not going to do it,

Then the system that was designed to carry out that event,

I'm not going to do it.

Then who needs the system?

And that's when the body's intelligence says,

If I'm not using something,

Why am I maintaining it?

I'm putting energy in and I'm not using it.

I should cut the budget,

Shut it off.

Yeah.

Forget it.

We don't need it.

Right.

That's such a good way to say it.

I never thought of that.

Your body is trying to optimize energy.

And if you're not using it.

.

.

That's its intention and its efficiency at it.

And we have trouble as humans recognizing when the body is doing something for efficiency because we as a group are not very efficient.

And that's why we're facing this extinction.

Our inefficiency has degraded the environment.

So to help the rising up too,

I'm like,

Let's fast forward in the cocoon.

I'm thinking of everyone I know.

I get a lot of comments from people that listen and are really wanting to do something to make a difference.

And I do believe it starts with yourself,

Of course,

Because I live here.

What can we do?

We mentioned this raising consciousness,

Tuning into spirit.

We talked a little bit about actual foundational self-care,

But to get to that lightness of the butterfly,

What do we do?

Do you have any.

.

.

You talk about science.

.

.

Oh,

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Let's talk about it.

I don't watch the news.

Number one,

I don't watch the news.

What?

Am I going to change it?

I'll just be a recipient.

Oh,

This is what they're doing?

And I do what?

So what?

Did that help anybody?

I just use my energy and shock and fear of,

Oh my God,

This thing's falling apart and I can't do anything about it.

I said,

Then stop watching the damn thing,

Because most of it's false anyway.

People are making a community stronger than ever before in these times,

Because many of are realizing the only way out is community and the present rule is no community.

I go,

Well,

That's antagonistic to life at all.

Why?

Because biological forms live in community.

Even if you don't see them,

Bacteria,

You think,

Oh,

They're just isolated here and there.

I go,

No,

They're in total community.

They're always communicating with each other using viruses.

That's the highest form of communication,

Releasing chemicals like hormones outside,

Or even touching each other and sending information from one bacterium to another.

Community,

Even though it doesn't look like a community,

Everything,

All living things are in a community.

When community is broken,

Then the health of the community is gone completely.

The community is so powerful that I give a story like when a young cult is acting up,

The parent,

Mother,

And father horse will nip at it saying,

Don't do that,

Not good behavior,

Don't do that,

Nip at it.

If the cult doesn't respond,

The ultimate threat is they push the cult out of the community.

You go,

You can't be here with us anymore.

Guess what?

In a short moment of being outside that community,

That horse is going to say,

Yeah,

I'll learn whatever I need to learn because I cannot survive out here alone.

I need to be with the rest.

The nature of community is such a drive force that it will cause an animal to adopt the behavior necessary to be part of that community because if it challenges and is left out,

It's certain death at that point.

When we break out community,

We're not recognizing,

We don't sustain ourselves by isolated individuals in our own homes.

We sustain ourselves by working together in a community,

Whether it's physically working together or contributing your money or contributing your consciousness or whatever it is,

We must work together because life is based on community.

COVID-19 is the community breaker.

Is COVID as lethal as they say it is,

Which causes us to be so isolated?

And I go,

No.

In fact,

That's a bigger problem.

If the people got the damn COVID,

We'd get it over with and then it won't be that new thing anymore.

We'll have immunological memory from our exposure to it.

So this has always surprised me.

They were overrunning the hospital early on in the COVID thing.

They said,

We've got to stop this run on the hospital.

How can you do that?

Quarantine people so that they're isolated.

And then the hospital said,

Ah,

Now it's under control.

And I said,

Until what?

Until you let the quarantine out.

And I said,

Why?

Did the virus go away while they were in quarantine?

No.

Did you gain immunity while you were in quarantine?

Nope.

What are you?

Fresh meat for the virus.

And so a second spike is like,

What?

You're surprised there's a second spike?

Are you kidding me?

Why wouldn't there be a second spike?

Why?

Because these people have no immunity to it.

And the only way you get immunity is to have experience with it.

Is it going to kill you?

If you're compromised,

You're in trouble.

If you're not compromised,

It's called a flu,

And you'll get over it.

OK?

And except everybody's fears,

I don't want it.

And I say,

Well,

I don't care how much you don't want it.

It's going to be here when you get out of your house because that virus isn't going away.

Yeah.

So for those that are dealing with the stress,

Not watching TV,

Definitely don't watch the news.

Don't watch TV unless I will only watch things that make me laugh or feel good.

There's some good things that I don't watch a lot,

But I'm like,

There's some good things.

I know you have a show,

Angaia,

Which is a great,

I don't know if you laugh with inner evolution,

But I know,

I mean,

There's a lot of great shows,

Angaia,

And a lot of other great shows out there.

And honestly,

Sometimes I watch kids shows because they're just really fun and light.

So that's TV.

And this is in a way that won't challenge you to think real hard.

What the heck are they talking about?

I'm using my brain so hard to understand what the hell you're talking about.

Yeah.

They take it down to,

I can understand it because the kid can understand it.

I can understand it.

In fact,

When I wrote Biology of Belief,

I was a research scientist in a medical school.

And my first version of the book,

I started putting it together,

Writing it in the normal way I write scientific papers.

And I gave it to some people about halfway through thinking,

Well,

Let me just see if this is how this is going.

And I gave it to a couple of friends and then I never saw them again.

And I had to go find them.

And they were embarrassed because they didn't want to tell me.

I didn't understand a damn word you wrote in that book.

It's like,

Well,

This is not going to be very helpful.

This book is it.

And I realized I cannot write in science that's like Latin,

Which separates science from the people.

I had to write it in people terms so that everybody can understand it.

So I had to take away from science vocabulary down to people.

Oh,

That's what you were talking about,

Bruce.

OK,

Now I got it.

That's why Biology of Belief has been such a big seller.

If I put it in scientific language,

Only a minor percent of people would ever have looked at it.

Right.

But you have to bring it down.

So looking at a children's show is not necessarily bad.

In fact,

That's the simplest understanding to get the point across.

Stop making it complicated.

Let's simplify it because people are lost in complication.

Yeah.

Can you just to you sparked I wanted to ask you this.

I mean,

I know it's a whole book,

Biology of Belief,

But if you were to like kind of condense just some of the key pieces of it,

Because I think this is going to go very well with your belief around stress,

Your belief around what you know,

Getting to the light,

Rising up.

Yeah.

OK,

First understanding is this.

We have been programmed and I was participating in the presentation of that program when I was teaching medical students back then.

We have been programmed the belief that genes control our characteristics,

Not just our physical but our emotional and behavioral characteristics.

Then I go,

Wait a minute,

The genes are controlling our fate.

Did I pick them?

Well,

As far as I know,

No,

I didn't.

OK,

Can I change them?

If I don't like these things,

I said,

No,

You can't do that either.

Well,

Can I control them?

I said no,

Because we're told that genes turn on and off by themselves.

And I say,

So what was I teaching genetics?

And I was teaching something called genetic control,

Which translates as control by genes.

I'm sorry,

You've got the cancer gene and it's going to give you cancer.

I go,

Well,

First of all,

That's all BS,

Belief system,

BS,

Because there is no gene,

There's not one gene that causes cancer.

That's pretty amazing.

I say,

Why?

How many people are scared to death because they have a cancer gene?

I say,

The gene doesn't cause cancer.

I go,

What do you mean?

I say,

Let's say the breast cancer gene,

Which of course women,

That's so profoundly important in their lives.

And I go,

If you have the gene,

You're going to get the cancer?

I go,

No,

50% of the women have the gene,

Never get a cancer.

Well,

What's the conclusion?

Having the gene does not cause cancer.

Well,

I say,

Well,

Then what's the cause of cancer?

Being out of harmony and having the gene causes cancer.

If you're not out of harmony,

The gene is not going to manifest its expression.

And the belief that genes turn on and off is the biggest disempowering factor in the whole world because it says then genes do what they want,

Irregardless of what you want.

And all of a sudden,

Now I'm a victim of my heredity.

Oh my God,

I got this gene.

I'm going to get Alzheimer.

My father died at 70 and his father died at 65.

And all of a sudden,

I say,

Oh,

I got him 70.

I'm going to die now because that's the,

I go,

No,

That was their lifestyle that died at 70.

There's no gene that shuts you off at 70.

It's lifestyle.

I go,

Well,

Where do I know from,

How do I know this?

I say my own research from 50 years ago,

I was growing stem cells,

Which are embryonic cells that are in your body.

Quick little sidebar.

Why have stem cells?

The answer is the body is not a single thing.

You look,

There's Bruce,

One single body.

I go,

No,

Bruce's body,

If you have a microscope is made out of 50 trillion cells.

The cells are the living entity.

The community of cells is Bruce.

Okay.

So all of a sudden it says,

Oh my God,

I'm a community of cells.

And I go,

Yes,

You are.

And I say,

But these cells die hundreds of billions every day.

Blood cells are dying,

Skin cells are dying,

The entire lining of the digestive tract of a trillion cells,

Not every three days.

I go,

If they're dying,

Then obviously you're still here.

How could you still be here?

And the answer is,

You have stem cells.

If you're listening to this program,

You have stem cells.

Don't think you don't have stem cells.

Why?

You're here.

I go,

How can you stay here?

And the answer is your stem cells are embryonic cells and they replace anything that dies.

Okay.

So now I go,

Okay,

I'm cloning stem cells.

What does that mean?

I put one stem cell in a Petri dish all by itself.

It divides every 10 hours.

So after 10 hours,

Now I have two cells.

And after 20 hours,

I have four cells.

And after another 30 hours,

I have eight and it doubles.

And I go,

So I put in one cell in the Petri dish.

It doubles,

It doubles after a week of doubling 30,

000 cells in the Petri dish.

They're all genetically the same because they came from one parent.

So whatever genes that parent cell has,

30,

000 cells have the same genes.

I take those cells,

Split them into three Petri dishes,

Point genetically identical cells in each dish.

All three dishes genetically identical.

But I feed them culture medium.

Cells live in a culture medium.

You don't put cells in a dry dish,

They die.

You put them in a fluid.

I say,

What's the fluid?

Culture medium.

I say,

What does it represent?

This is going to make a point.

The equivalent of blood,

Laboratory version of blood,

Culture medium.

Well,

Since I'm making the culture medium,

I can change some of the constituents a little bit.

So I make three different versions of culture medium,

Changing the chemistry a little bit in each one.

Well,

These are environments when I grow the cells.

So I have three dishes,

Genetically identical cells in all dishes,

But three different environments because the chemistry of this culture medium is different than this one,

Than this one.

So I say,

So what?

In the end,

One dish of cells form muscle,

Another dish of cells form bone,

A third dish form fat cells.

I go,

What is responsible for the fate of the cells?

The answer is they were all genetically identical.

The only thing that was different was the environment,

The culture medium.

I go,

Ah,

So the chemistry of the environment was adjusting the fate of the cells.

I go,

Absolutely.

The control was not in the cells.

It was in response to the environment.

And I go,

Oh,

Oh,

This is so cool.

Genes didn't control the cells.

The environment controlled the cells.

And of course,

I was teaching medical school,

Genes control the cells.

So there was a disconnect in my life,

In the classroom,

Genes control,

In the research,

Environment control.

Okay.

So I say,

So why is this relevant?

Because what I saw is the new science back then 50 years ago.

New science is called epigenetics.

Sounds like genetics,

Epigenetics.

Epi means above.

What do we call skin?

Epidermis.

I said,

What does that mean?

Just underneath the surface,

There's another layer called the dermis.

And above the dermis,

Epidermis,

Above the dermis is skin.

So I say,

When I say genetic control,

What I was teaching in the classroom,

This character is controlled by genes.

The new science is called epigenetic control.

I said,

Sounds the same,

But listen why it's important.

Control by genes,

Genetic control,

Gene controls.

Epigenetic control,

Epi means above.

So when I say,

What does it mean?

Genetic control translates as control above the genes.

The genes don't turn on and off.

That was the whole wrong belief system.

Everybody's been programmed.

They're still programmed.

They're still saying,

A cancer gene turned on.

I go,

A gene is a blueprint,

Just like in an architect's office.

And I say,

You go into an architect's office,

She's working on a blueprint,

And you ask her,

Is your blueprint on or off?

And she would look at you like,

Are you crazy,

It's a blueprint,

There's no on and off.

Genes are blueprints.

They do not turn on and off.

They can be read or not read.

That's what you do with a blueprint.

You read it or you don't read it.

I go,

Ah,

Then who's the reader?

The conscious mind.

The conscious mind changes the reading and the genetics change.

I go,

Oh,

The control wasn't in the genes.

No,

It was in the mind.

Epigenetics above the genes.

I say,

Story in Petri dish,

The environment control the fate of the cells.

The environment was culture medium,

The equivalent of blood.

Ready?

This is a skin covered Petri dish.

A human body is a skin covered Petri dish.

Inside you have 50 trillion cells.

And I say,

Oh,

What about culture medium?

I go,

Ah,

The original culture medium,

Blood.

Now here's the point.

What did I show in my research?

The composition of the culture medium changed the fate of the cells.

I say,

Does it make a difference if the cells in a plastic dish or a skin dish?

Nope.

It's still the composition of the culture medium.

In the skin dish,

It's blood.

And now we're coming to a point that Bruce is going to make.

And the point is simply this.

Well,

Then who's the chemist that makes the composition of the blood?

Because the composition of the blood determines the genetic activity.

I go,

The brain is the chemist.

And I go,

Oh,

Now comes the last one.

We're coming to it.

So what chemicals should the brain put into the blood?

And I go,

This is how simple it is.

Whatever the picture in the mind is,

Whatever you see in your mind,

The brain's job is to translate that into complementary chemistry.

There's a chemistry for love that is different than a chemistry for fear.

And I say,

Why?

Because when you're in love,

You're putting good things into your blood,

Which is now going to 50 trillion cells and nourishing them.

Dopamine for pleasure,

Oxytocin for binding,

Growth hormone was released.

And that causes health and vitality.

That's why when people fall in love,

A picture of love is translated by the brain into chemistry that enhances your vitality.

People glow when they're in love.

I say,

Yeah,

But what if that brain switches to fear?

I go,

Then the love chemistry is not going into the blood.

Fear chemistry is going into blood.

I say,

That's different chemicals altogether.

I say,

They have a whole different response.

They're the ones that shut down the system and mess with it.

I go,

So you have a skin covered Petri dish.

You have 50 trillion cells.

Are your cells healthy or are your cells sick?

And I say,

We used to blame the genes.

But now if I know the genes are the blueprints,

It's the mind and the consciousness that determine the reading of that blueprint.

And I can change my genes' activity by my consciousness.

I could be born with a mutant gene and cancel it.

I can be born with a healthy gene and make a mutant product.

Oh my God,

We've been blaming genes.

And it all started up here.

Programming consciousness because we are creating our lives.

And then I just want to stop here for a second because the most important sidebar comes in here.

I go,

They're all different sciences,

Physics,

Chemistry,

Biology,

Psychology,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah.

I go,

The most valid science on the planet of all the sciences,

The one is the most valid,

Truthful of all sciences is quantum physics.

Yep.

So why?

Why is that relevant?

Because quantum physics,

The most valid science,

The one you wouldn't question,

If you're going to question science,

Question anything else first.

Quantum physics,

Listen to this.

First principle,

Consciousness is creating your life experiences.

Change your consciousness and you change the character of your life.

I go,

Well,

This is the fundamental nature of physics.

I go,

Now guess what?

It's also the fundamental nature of biology with the science called epigenetics.

Science of genetics,

Your genes,

Your life.

Science of epigenetics,

It's what you concentrate on,

Your consciousness that will determine the character of your genes,

Not the genes.

And now all of a sudden I say,

Why is it important?

And the first answer was,

When I told you genes controls your life,

You are a victim of your genes.

And you know,

You didn't pick them,

You can't change them.

You say,

Oh God,

My life is programmed.

I'm going to get cancer because every woman in my family has cancer and I'm a woman and I'm going to get this cancer.

And I go,

Well,

That makes you a victim.

I go,

But that belief system is 100% wrong.

That's why 50% of the women with a cancer gene,

They don't get the cancer.

Why?

It's not in their vision,

The fear,

The disharmony.

That's what caused the cancer.

No gene caused cancer.

It's fear and disharmony that opens up the system for cancer.

So I say,

Why is it relevant?

And the answer is,

Old story,

Which almost everybody out there that's listening now has been programmed with,

Your genes control your life and you're a victim of your heredity.

And I turn this around and say epigenetics,

The new science,

Which you're just beginning to hear about is a scientist says your consciousness is controlling your life.

I say,

Why you control your own consciousness.

You can make a negative conscious,

You can make a positive conscious,

You can do any damn thing.

And all of a sudden I say,

Why you are not a victim of your heredity.

You are the master of your genetic activity.

And if you don't like your genetic activity,

We don't place the blame on the genes.

We have to go back and say your consciousness is not living in harmony and your body is now reflecting that disharmony.

That's where sickness comes from.

And we used to blame it on genes and that's so wrong.

There's only like six diseases that count for a lot less than 1% of the population that are actually due to a single gene like cystic fibrosis or hemophilia,

Huntington's disease.

Those are three of them right there.

I say,

Why those are there's only a small number of diseases that actually have a gene that will cause a disease.

All the rest of diseases,

Multiple genes and all of them reflecting consciousness,

Adjusting your biology to your perception of the world.

When you're in fear,

You shut it down.

When you're in love,

You open it up.

And that's why the fear of business is killing us and the absence of love is one of the biggest problems on this planet.

Well,

That was that was I almost have no words.

That was extremely,

Extremely powerful.

And you know,

I'm like,

Just before I know we're going to wrap,

We have to wrap up soon.

But my gosh,

Bruce,

Thank you.

I mean,

I I'm holding back.

There's so many questions.

You've done a beautiful job just answering so many.

And I think the question I'm hearing people ask is,

So if we know consciousness is what's really going,

It's really the it's deciding.

It's underlying everything,

Your life,

Your beliefs,

Your,

You know,

And I've talked to others about this.

In fact,

I remember having a similar but different conversation with with Greg on here,

Greg Braden,

Who we love as well.

And how do we I'm hearing people like,

OK,

So how do I change my consciousness?

How do I?

OK,

This is again now another most important fact.

Consciousness comes from the mind.

So basically,

Your mind is creating your life experiences.

And that's what physics and now biology is saying.

And I go,

Yeah,

But I have positive thoughts about my life.

And yet my life is so negative.

Where the where the hell did that come from?

Not from my positive thinking.

I go misunderstanding.

Number one biggest misunderstanding is there's not one mind.

There's two minds.

They both are,

You know,

Interdependent.

They work together,

But they have each mind has a different function and each mind has a different way of learning.

If you don't understand this,

Then the whole world seems like crazy world.

OK,

And I say why there are two minds.

The latest evolution is the conscious mind right behind your forehead is the lobe of brain tissue called prefrontal cortex,

The latest evolution.

That's where our consciousness is.

So I say,

What is consciousness?

It's connected to your unique identity.

No two people have the same consciousness.

It's also connected to your spirituality.

There's an energy field that you represent.

That's and that's who you are.

So I say,

That's the conscious mind.

I say,

What's the subconscious mind?

I say,

That's a database of programs.

Oh,

Where do I get the programs?

Well,

Let me first say,

Why do I have programs?

The brain is like a computer.

It is a computer is better computer than humans could even make.

But I give you the same the parallels here.

I go buy a new computer at the store,

Bring it home,

Turn it on.

It boots up.

And now I say,

Do something,

Spreadsheet,

Make a drawing,

Write something.

I say,

I can't.

I say,

Why not?

You got a computer booted up.

Oh,

I didn't put any programs in.

I need a write program.

I need an internet program.

I need this program.

I go,

Oh,

You have to put the programs in before you can use the computer.

I go,

Yes,

A child's brain is a computer.

It boots up in the last trimester of pregnancy.

It's ready to go.

It's got no programs.

You can't use the computer if there are no programs in it.

So the brain of a child is not in consciousness,

Creativity,

As a predominant brain state until after age seven.

So I say,

Yeah,

But then what's the brain state before age seven?

I say,

It's a lower vibration called theta.

When you put wires on a person's head,

Electroencephalograph,

You read brain activity.

A lower vibration below consciousness is called theta,

Which is imagination.

This is what kids up to seven live their life,

Half real,

Half imagination.

They have a tea party.

They pour nothing in a cup.

They drink nothing and talk about how great the tea was.

You're on a broom,

But it's not a broom.

Now it's a horse.

The mother says,

Give me the broom.

The child in the child's mind,

Imagination,

Theta.

It's not a broom now.

It's a real horse.

I said,

That's theta,

But theta is hypnosis.

I go,

Why is it relevant?

You get your fundamental programs,

How to be a member of a family and how to be a member of a community,

Thousands of rules by simply doing nothing but observing.

In theta hypnosis,

You watch your mother,

Your father,

Your siblings,

And your community.

You download their behavior.

They already have the program.

So you download it.

That becomes your fundamental program.

Where'd you get your program?

I downloaded it from my family and my community.

And I go,

Geez,

That's a problem because up to 70% of most people's programs are disempowering or self-sabotaging programs.

I go,

Yeah,

And you inherited them too,

All of us have.

I say,

So why is it relevant?

Once the programs are in,

Then I could use the computer,

Type on it,

And add my data to the computer.

That's conscious mind.

Subconscious mind,

Program.

Conscious mind,

I take the control back and now I'm going to run the program.

And I go,

This is true.

And then I say,

So conscious mind is the one with positive thinking,

Wishes and desires.

That's creative.

Conscious mind's got programs.

I go,

So what?

I say,

When you're operating from your conscious mind,

You're going to manifest whatever you want,

Health,

Happiness,

Relationships,

Good job,

Fine.

That's creativity.

That's where we're going.

Subconscious mind,

Whatever the program is,

Is what you're going to play.

And since most of the programs are limiting or disempowering,

You don't really want to play them a lot.

But now comes a true story.

And this is the ultimate important story at this moment.

And that is this,

The conscious mind,

Creative,

Wishes and desires,

Looks out the window like your eyes are looking like cameras.

You see the world and conscious mind is going to drive your vehicle body,

Let's say steering wheel.

My conscious mind is going to drive me to what?

Wishes and desires,

What I want.

But here's the problem.

This is the whole thing in the box.

The conscious mind can think.

I go,

So what?

I say,

But thinking is not looking out,

Thinking is looking in.

So I say,

Julie,

Tell me what you're doing on Friday.

If it's not written in the front of you right at this minute,

I say,

You can tell me what you're going to do on Friday.

I say,

Where are you going to find the answer?

It's not on the page in front of you.

Where are you going to find the answer?

Inside,

Thinking.

What am I doing on Friday?

OK,

I'm doing blah,

Blah,

Blah.

I go,

Wait,

What just happened?

This is it.

You ready?

Yeah.

So I'm thinking,

I'm looking out the window and driving my vehicle according to what?

Positive wishes and desires.

But the moment I'm thinking,

I let go of the wheel because now I'm going to take my attention and not look out the window.

I'm going to look inside my head.

The answer of what you're doing Friday is inside.

So I say,

So what happens when you're thinking?

Conscious mind,

Let's go with the wheel.

It's not looking out the window anymore.

It's looking inside.

I say,

Well,

Let's say you're really driving a car.

And all of a sudden you're thinking,

I go,

Guess what?

You're not paying attention to the road right now.

What are you doing?

You're inside your head.

I say,

Well,

Jesus,

The car is driving.

I'm driving the car.

I go,

Don't worry.

Subconscious is autopilot.

When the conscious mind lets go of a job,

The subconscious steps in and grabs the wheel and it will drive you according to the program,

Not according to wishes and desires,

But to the program.

If the programs aren't any good,

Then when you're thinking,

Your behavior is not good behavior.

It's the behavior of the program.

Okay.

And I say,

So why is it relevant?

Because 95% of the day is what science recognizes how much time we're thinking.

And I say,

Just put that number into the game.

5% of the day I'm moving toward wishes and desires,

Conscious mind holding the wheel.

95% of the day I'm moving toward programs that subconscious have because the subconscious is autopilot driving the vehicle.

Is my life coming from my wishes?

I go,

No,

5%.

Your life is coming from your program.

And so if you've got negative programs,

Which we all did,

Then 95% of the day we play these negative programs that are sabotaging us.

And then you would immediately say,

But I would know if I was playing those programs and I wouldn't do that.

And I go,

No,

You won't.

And I say,

You know why?

Because when you're thinking,

Your conscious mind's inside,

The subconscious is playing and you are not observing it because you're not looking.

You're inside.

You don't see what's coming out.

So for 30 years,

The same story,

I keep telling everybody,

It is 30 year old story.

I'd like to find a better one,

But it's working for 30 years.

So I'm going to tell it again.

And that is this.

You have a friend,

You know your friend's behavior very well,

And you happen to know your friend's parent.

And one day you see your friend has the exact same behavior as their parent.

Of course,

This excites you and you want to tell your friend.

You go,

Hey,

Bill,

You're just like your dad.

How can you compare me to my dad?

I'm nothing like my dad.

And everyone laughs because they have that experience.

I say,

You want to know what a profound story is?

That's a profound story.

I said,

Why?

Everybody else can see that Bill behaves like his dad.

Where did he get that behavior?

Oh,

First seven years,

He downloaded by watching his dad.

I say,

But then how come Bill can't see it,

But everybody else can see it?

I say,

When does he play that program?

I say,

When he's not paying attention.

So whatever program is coming out,

He's behaving like his dad.

Everyone else says,

Oh,

Bill,

You're just like your dad.

He's going,

I don't know what the hell you're talking about because he didn't see that behavior.

And now the boom in the room,

We are all Bill.

Every one of us is playing subconscious programs 95% of the day because we are thinking.

And as a consequence,

None of us are observing our own behavior.

The only thing we see is the result.

I got up in the morning with wishes and desires,

Success,

Happiness,

Health,

Great relationship,

Great job.

That's my desire.

And I go off to work and I come home at five o'clock and it's like,

None of that happened.

And I go,

Jesus,

It's not me.

I had all the good wishes.

The universe is not supporting me.

And now I'm a victim.

Now I'm a victim of things.

I go,

Big problem.

We are co-creating as quantum physics says we are creating with our mind.

And if you let your subconscious mind run because you're thinking,

Then your programs are not supporting you.

They're just manifesting whatever the program was that you got.

And up to 70% of those programs are disempowering and self-sabotaging.

And then you say,

Oh my God,

I'm a victim because I got up in the morning and I wanted success and I came home and it didn't work.

And I always give the analogy,

It's like I came home and I looked and my foot was bloody.

Somebody shot me in the foot.

And then I look and oh,

In my hand is a gun.

I was shooting myself in the foot all day long.

Did I see I was shooting myself?

No,

Because you were playing the programs while your conscious mind wasn't watching.

And when the shot was going in your foot,

You were the last one to see who was shooting you in the foot.

And that leads you to be the victim.

And this is where almost the entire population stands,

Go,

I wanted to be healthy.

I wanted to be successful.

I wanted to have a great relationship.

It didn't happen.

So the universe is not supporting me.

And I go,

Wow,

It's the other way around.

You didn't see that 95% of the day,

The behavior you were playing compromised every one of your wishes and desires.

That if you recognize this,

You can rewrite those programs.

And if you rewrite the program,

That means 95% of the day,

You're going to play the new program.

And I love it because you don't have to do lots of work.

You just put in the program.

Once a program is in,

Then go back to the way your life is right now.

You're not realizing you're operating 95% of the day from the program.

But you will see the problems when they don't work.

And I'm going,

Guess what?

Same amount of effort goes in after you put the good program in,

Meaning once a good program is in,

I could think all day long and not pay attention.

But guess what?

Basically,

Everything I'm doing is going to be a positive response to my life.

But the programs I have now,

The programs all of us have now,

Are compromising programs.

And so Basie says,

What are your programs that you've got in the first seven years,

Especially because you weren't there when they were going in at last trimester?

You weren't consciously there at zero.

You had a whole year of programming.

You weren't there.

At one year old,

You got another whole year of programming.

You still weren't there.

At two,

You start to maybe catch a glimpse of something.

But what was the point?

Most of your downloaded programs,

You had no awareness of what these programs are.

They went in before you were conscious.

And so help before we end this program.

So give people,

How do I know what my program is?

Yeah.

And how do you write it?

Well,

There's these two things.

I have to go quickly because they could take another hour or two.

But I know this is amazing.

Thank you.

How do you know what the program is?

95% of your life is coming from the program.

Your life is a printout of your program.

Look at your life right now.

Point.

The things that you like that come in,

That you really like them when they're there,

They come in because you have a program to acknowledge that.

The things you desire,

Wish for,

Want,

And you find yourself working hard,

Struggling,

Sweating,

Putting a lot of effort,

I'm making this happen.

I'm making it happen.

I go,

Why are you working so hard?

And the answer is so profoundly important.

It is.

And that is because the program you have does not support that conclusion.

And therefore you are going to try to use your conscious effort to override the program.

That's where the effort comes from.

And I go,

And how successful is that?

I go,

Well,

Since your conscious mind is working 5% of the day,

It hasn't been that successful anyway.

So it's not going to change.

You want to change.

You have to rewrite the program.

I said,

Well,

How do I know what the program is?

Well,

I just said,

If I'm looking for a relationship,

I'm failing them.

Basically I have no good relationship program.

So I want to make a change.

So I want to put in a new program that enhances my relationship.

And I go,

Well,

This is where the problem comes.

Remember I said the mind has two functions.

Conscious mind is creative,

Subconscious mind is habit.

Conscious mind being creative can learn in any number of ways.

Julie,

We're watching this podcast,

Read a book,

Go to a video,

Go to a lecture.

You can learn.

You can just go,

Aha,

A new idea.

I just changed.

Consciousness.

Subconscious is habit mind.

I go,

Why is it relevant?

If a habit could change easily,

Then it's not a habit.

And I don't want a habit to change easily.

I'm glad I learned how to walk before I was two because I could spend the rest of my life walking without learning how to walk again.

It's great.

Drive a car.

Once I learned how to drive a car,

I don't have to think of the details like I did the first day I got behind the wheel.

Like this,

But now I drive a car without thinking of the details.

Habits are good if they're good.

But if a habit is bad,

Then unconsciously it will sabotage you because when you play habits you're playing them because you're not paying attention.

So a bad habit in there will show up as making you a victim.

I want to be successful.

It didn't work.

Damn,

It's the outside.

And I go,

No,

Damn it's the inside.

Because during the 95% of the day,

You were sabotaging yourself like Bill and you didn't see it.

So I say,

Okay,

So the habit mind learns in a different way.

And that's where the crux of the problem comes from because,

Oh,

It's so hard to change a habit.

I go,

It's hard if you don't know how to put a habit in.

And you have to recognize habits resist change because they're called habits.

And so I say,

Well,

How can you rewrite it?

I say,

You have to use a different approach to writing.

I say,

How did you learn in your subconscious in the first place?

Oh,

The first seven years,

My brain was working at a lower vibration of consciousness called theta,

Which is hypnosis.

I go,

Oh,

So if you can get into hypnosis,

Quiet your brain down,

You can download a program straight in the subconscious.

I go,

That's why in the old fashioned days when the hypnotherapist had a watch and he would say,

Watch the watch,

Watch it.

And it says,

You're getting tired.

You're getting sleepy.

Why was that relevant?

Consciousness is a higher vibration.

Theta is a lower vibration.

If I want to put theta in because theta doesn't go into conscious mind,

Theta goes into subconscious.

That's how you got your program.

Theta,

Your conscious mind wasn't even working.

You just took whatever you experienced,

Downloaded.

So if I can get into theta,

I can reprogram.

I go every night when you go to bed,

When the conscious mind disconnects,

The brain is slowing down,

Going towards sleep,

Which is delta.

But between the moment when you close your eyes,

I'm now sleeping.

And before it gets to delta,

It's now in theta.

So that's why if you put earphones on,

Playing a program with the program you want to be true in your life,

Positive program,

And I say,

What do you do?

I say,

You put the earphones on,

You go into the bed.

While you're awake,

You might hear something on the tape or the CD.

And I go,

But the moment you go to sleep,

Conscious mind's off.

But theta,

Download,

Is working.

So whatever is being played through the phones is not going into the conscious mind,

Going straight into the subconscious.

That's where the habits go.

That's how you got the first seven years of habits.

Okay?

Yeah.

But you still learn things,

How to drive a car after age seven.

I say,

Oh,

How did I learn new habits?

Repetition.

I made a habit by repeating something,

A practice.

I got to repeat it and I got to repeat it and I got to repeat it.

That's how I learned.

So I say,

I love it because the new age thing is called fake it till you make it.

Meaning,

Let's say you're not a happy person,

But you want to be a happy person.

Then I say,

What you do is what?

You repeat every day as many times during the day as you can,

No matter where you are.

Oh,

I am happy.

Of course you're not happy.

Look around.

You're not happy about anything.

But I say,

No,

Keep saying I am happy.

Repetition of that.

You keep repeating it and that's how the subconscious mind learns.

Repetition.

Practice.

So,

Fake it till you make it.

Just keep saying I am happy,

Regardless if you're not.

Then there's one day you won't ever have to say it again because you'll wake up and by then the subconscious has learned and it will keep you unhappy.

Its job is to manifest the program.

So I put in happy program.

Once I put it in,

I don't even have to think about being happy anymore.

It's doing it all of the time.

Okay?

So,

First way is hypnosis.

Second way is repetition.

And the third way is the most valuable new one for this problem because I said we're facing a mass extinction due to human behavior.

We have to change behavior quickly.

So guess what?

There's a new version of changing subconscious behavior.

It's called energy psychology.

And I say it's based on what?

Super learning.

What the hell is super learning?

I say maybe you've seen somebody read a book by taking their finger and moving it down the page.

As fast as they move the finger down the page,

They read every word on the page.

That's super learning.

But with energy psychology,

Engaging a super learning process,

You can rewrite a belief in minutes.

It's like,

Oh my God,

Necessity is the mother of invention.

We have the absolute necessity to change our behavior on this planet right now because our behavior is causing the extinction and we need to change.

So nature says here,

We want some new change fast,

Energy psychology.

All of you should get on it right away because why waste another minute of your life operating from disempowering programs when you can in minutes rewrite?

And I say,

Well,

How many ways are there to do it?

And I say on my website,

Simple,

Bruselipton.

Com.

I have under resources about 25 different versions of energy psychology,

All of them working.

You could pick one that satisfies your interest by reading the description and pick one of those because if you do this,

You can rewrite your life.

And I go,

Wow,

That's really great.

I say closing because I need to say this now.

My last book was called The Honeymoon Effect.

And what was the emphasis?

And I said,

Every day of our life is blah,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah,

Because of whatever programs in our subconscious that are preventing us from experiencing the thrill of heaven on earth.

Blah,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah.

Then you meet somebody.

And I just want to emphasize,

Being in love doesn't necessarily mean with another person.

You can be in love with a pet.

You can be in love with gardening.

You can be in love with cooking,

Something that you do that gives you so much joy that you keep your mind present.

Being in love says keep your mind present.

So when you're doing something you're like,

You're not defaulting to the subconscious.

You're doing from the present consciousness creative.

So I say,

Look,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah,

Every day of your life you meet this person using love in this case from a person.

I say what happens?

In 24 hours after meeting this person,

Your life transitions from blah,

Blah,

Blah to heaven on earth.

The honeymoon is heaven on earth.

Honeymoon is all my so much love and the food's great and the music's great,

The job that used to suck at who cares,

It's not so bad anymore.

And I go,

Wow,

In 24 hours you took an entire life of blah,

Blah,

Blah and turned it into heaven on earth.

I go,

What the hell was responsible for that?

And the answer was,

What would happen if you stopped playing the program?

Because now we know love stops playing the program because you stop thinking and you stay present being called mindful.

And I say,

Why was the situation?

I say it's when you're thinking that the subconscious makes its programs and plays them.

But if you're not thinking then you are still consciously holding onto the wheel.

Consciousness has wishes and desires.

So I say what happens in 24 hours from just stop playing the damn program,

In 24 hours you go from blah,

Blah,

Blah to heaven on earth.

And that's called the honeymoon.

It's not an accident.

It's a co-creation with your partner who is also operating from the conscious mind,

Wishes and desires together collectively manifesting wishes and desires 24 hours.

That's all they dug to stop playing the program.

And it's living heaven on earth.

And then I say,

But the honeymoon doesn't always last.

And I go,

Yeah,

Here's the problem.

And the problem is I could stay mindful for as long as I can.

But sometimes I have to think,

I have to,

Oh,

I got a job,

I got chores,

I got responsibilities.

I start thinking,

I say,

What happened?

You were having a honeymoon.

What was the honeymoon based on?

Just using the creative wishes and desires.

And all of a sudden I say,

Then all of a sudden one day you start thinking and then what happens?

I say,

Oh,

A new voice comes out,

The subconscious programs,

Which are what?

Many of them,

You know,

Disempowering.

Your partner has never seen disempowering programs because when you met your partner,

Both of you stopped playing programs.

Both of you started doing wishes and desires.

That's how you manifested heaven.

But the moment one or both of you start thinking,

Then that other voice shows up,

The subconscious,

Which didn't play.

But once it shows up,

Guess what?

Those behaviors suck.

And all of a sudden that heaven on earth joy of a honeymoon starts to disappear.

Doesn't mean you don't love that person,

But you love them.

But the juiciness of that joy that you first had disappears.

Why?

Because now you're blending in the crap programs from your subconscious that never played when you created heaven on earth.

So the story is the story of the matrix is a documentary because A,

We all got programmed and B,

You can get out of the program by taking the red pill.

And the example that most of us have had without knowing it is falling in love is the red pill.

And the moment you start falling in love,

Your life improved and everything was like the greatest it could ever be.

I go,

It was always that way.

It was always available.

It was your own subconscious program that was undermining your heaven on earth desire.

It's always there.

And so now it's an opportunity for us to wake up,

Recognize if my life isn't working right,

I don't need to go out and change the damn world.

First I have to go and change my own consciousness.

That's the old hippie statement long before you were born,

Julie.

There was a hippie statement that said before you go out and save the world,

Take care of your own backyard.

Well,

This is exactly what I mean by this.

Before we go out and try to change the world,

If we're still living from the crummy programs,

Then we're not going to make the world any better because 95% of the day we're going to play those programs.

But if you rewrite those programs and put in all the programs of positive things,

Love and health and all that other stuff,

You don't even have to work anymore.

Why?

Because you can think all day long because when you now default to the subconscious,

The programs aren't going to sabotage you.

They're going to manifest your wishes and your desires.

And that's the coolest part.

You don't have to work on this every day of your life.

Once you put the new program in,

It's automatic.

It's always been automatic,

But the programs you're playing are not necessarily good ones.

And so it's like,

Wow,

Freedom is just that far away.

It's very close.

Oh my gosh.

This is so,

So powerful.

I have seven pages of notes to go through later.

I literally am switching pens and I'm trying to keep up with you and I realize I could listen again.

This was so,

I just want to say you are such a gift.

Your time,

Your generosity of wisdom,

Knowledge,

Spirit,

Being here with us and to explain.

This is so powerful.

I am so grateful that you shared.

Let me just tell you something.

I'm the first student of this because this was not my life.

I learned it from the cells.

I learned how they worked and there was a difference.

And I need to emphasize this right away because immediately I understood the mechanism from a scientific point of view.

It's like,

Oh my God,

I could create the most magnificent life.

I understand this new science.

So I grabbed a bunch of people,

Tried to put them in room and say,

I got to tell you,

If you understand what I'm going to tell you about,

You're going to have the greatest life.

And then they look at me and they go,

Lipton,

For a guy who says,

You know this stuff,

Your life doesn't look that great.

And there was this point where I voiced and I didn't voice it.

Thank God it would have been more embarrassing.

I almost said,

Well,

Do as I say,

Not as I do.

And that's when it hit me and said,

How the hell can I keep using my conscious creative mind working 5% of the day to tell people this is how you create a life when my subconscious program working 95% of the day still has the old BS programs.

And the point was,

Before I go out there and tell them about this,

I first have to put it into my system.

So when I stand up in the front and talk about it,

It's not a suggestion from outside.

It's like,

This is based on experience.

Yes.

I wrote the honeymoon effect book because understanding the nature of that,

I had,

Oh,

I almost said a bad word,

Bad relationships for 50 years.

They didn't work.

Why?

Because I was using the programming I got from my parents and their relationship wasn't anything you want to emulate,

But I was doing it 95%.

Once I understood that,

I said,

Oh my God,

I'm going to change my relationship programming.

I have.

I changed it 25 years ago.

And what's the point?

I have been living the honeymoon effect for 25 years.

I wake up going,

Oh my God,

I'm still here.

It's still exciting.

And I'm having this wonderful creation.

I got a love life with my partner,

Margaret.

So fantastic because both of us knew about programs.

And it's like Bill,

Bill played the program.

He didn't see it.

Only other people could.

If you have someone that's close to you,

They can say,

You know,

You didn't see what you just said or you didn't see how you just behaved.

That behavior you just did,

That's not really good.

If someone said that to you and they weren't that close,

She'd go,

You're criticizing me.

Don't criticize me and stuff like that.

And we won't listen to them.

We'll get angry.

They'll tell me the truth.

I'll get angry at them.

But if you have a partner who both of you recognize,

Your behaviors are coming from the program and some of them are not any good and you trust your partner really,

And your partner comes up with something,

You don't need to get in an argument.

You say,

Oh,

I can change that behavior.

There are three ways,

Hypnosis,

Repetition,

Energies.

I can rewrite that.

And if you start to clear out these programs in the relationship,

There's a point when they're all cleared out.

Guess what?

There's nothing in your behavior to sabotage that relationship again.

Then guess what?

It's heaven,

24 hours a day for the rest of your life without any effort because it's automatic anyway.

And this is what our world needs.

It's for each of us to do this.

It's really just contact.

From personal experience.

It's the best thing,

Personal experience.

That's what I had to do before I could go out and teach it.

But then when people started to hear what I was saying,

But they saw,

Well,

Your life does look really good.

How are you doing so well in the midst of this crisis where everything is going wrong?

It's because I don't live in that world.

I changed that program.

I don't take those stimuli into my life because they don't match a program.

And you can try and scare me,

But it's like,

No,

None of my programs scare me anymore.

I changed all those.

Power.

Power to the people.

Totally,

Totally power to the people.

And it's like,

Listen,

Everyone listening up,

You can change all of these crappy programs because we all have them and definitely go to Bruce's website,

Go to your website with all the very many different kinds of energy,

Psychology examples.

But I just,

This is so powerful.

You can change it.

It's really the message.

Exactly.

I'll change it.

Thank you so much.

Thank you very much.

And thank all of our wonderful listeners out there because every one of you,

We could all start participating in a heaven on earth and the planet will change as fast as we change our belief system.

No other words.

Thank you.

So true.

My friend,

I am so grateful that you are part of this powerful community.

I thank you for listening to this episode and I hope it inspires you to remember who you really are and who you chose to be in this lifetime.

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Abundance,

Heart,

Magic,

And so much more,

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Really insightful. Change your programs, change your life, change the world. Been at it in the 12 steps since 10.2.88. Thanks.

Giving this five stars because the content is super helpful for Global Awakening 🙏very grateful to you both for sharing this with us.

I also feel the need to add a Heads Up to those like me who are extremely affected by other people’s energy: this is probably the most “caffeinated” talk I’ve ever heard on this app. From the intro, all the way to the end, I felt like I was being hollered at. I even turned down the volume all the way to the very last notch; still felt like the energy and concepts being discussed were actually being vocally thrown at me instead of me just being present for a talk. It felt like an energetic bludgeoning. Even the intro felt like an energetic assault. This is not meant to be a harsh criticism, I am just healing from lots and lots of trauma and other peoples energy affects me greatly. This is just meant as a heads up to those like me, who tend to click away from a talk or meditation if it’s too energetic, because it does feel like an assault. I’m glad I stuck with it until the end of the talk, even though it felt very uncomfortable with raised voices even with the volume turned all the way down to the last setting. The concepts were spoken very very very fast as well, so will definitely listen again. Thank you for hearing me. ❤️🙏✨

This interview was so full of scientific, spiritual and inspiring information and I thank you from the bottom of my heart

Excellent talk! So powerful & inspiring. Thank you. 🙏🏻

Wow! I learned sooo much from this talk. Cannot wait to share this with those that are ready to learn. Thank you to you & Bruce. I will definitely visit his website.

Super interesting. This gives the framework for the law of attraction. I'm going to study up on this epigenetics.

Absolutely Amazing, Beautiful, Eye-opening & Insightful talk ❤️ Thank you so much 🙏 So many great things to take from this!! It's one I could easily & will listen to again 🌍❤️☀️
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Excellent! Excellent! Excellent!