A Lot About No-Mind From The Beginning To The Infinite

From the first moment of no thought all the way through the flowering this is an indepth talk about our souls journey from a seed to seeing the light for the first time from the begginging to the infinite because once you experience the light the journey never ends.

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I'm relatively new to Insight Timer so I just want to say again thank you to all the followers who have signed up on my page and let me know they appreciate my work.

That really is appreciated very much.

Yesterday I made a track on how to become enlightened,

As if that can be actually explained.

But in a way it can be because it's like you have an imprint of something like a clay mold to make a pot or something.

You have a,

Basically what is a negative,

Empty shell that you fill with clay and then you mold it,

You put the two molds together and it forms a pot or maybe a person's head or something beautiful,

Who knows.

But from the negative you can create the positive,

If that makes any sense.

So you've got a negative.

You can talk about what it is and what's going on and what's not.

And from that talk about what's not,

Then you can form what the positive is because you can think that every equal has its opposite,

Right?

So be aware when I mention something like No Mind,

Which our discussion today is going to be mostly about No Mind and how to attain it,

What it is and what benefits it can have for you in the long run.

First off,

No Mind is a doorway,

It is a passageway.

Think of it as this,

Like you bury a seed into the ground and the ground is dark and it's silent and it's still.

And you have to leave that seed in until the springtime comes.

And when the springtime comes you have to have trust that that seed will sprout and turn into a plant,

Into eventually a flower,

Right?

Well that period of waiting,

That given space,

That infinite patience that it might take to allow that seed to happen,

I mean we have to have total trust in existence that it will happen.

But anyway,

That infinite space that you're given it.

Spring could be weeks away,

It could be a year away.

Most farmers start planting before winter comes,

Before the ground gets all hard.

And they plant their seeds in anticipation for next year's spring to come around and give them all the beautiful vegetables and flowers and all the other beautiful plants that we benefit from in life.

So No Mind is this darkness space at first,

Let's just say at first,

Because it's a dignity you have to allow yourself.

When you go into meditation,

And for a person who is a thinking person and has never stilled the mind,

It's kind of almost impossible to imagine,

But basically you're shifting centers,

Right?

So you're shifting from your mind center to your real center,

To your real core.

And at the core,

It's completely still.

When you go inside and find that core within you,

You'll find that there's no movement,

It's just completely still.

And that is a necessary necessity in order for life to exist,

Is that you have to be hollow inside,

You have to have this core that everything can revolve on.

Without a core you'd wobble all over the place and be very unstable.

My first experiences with No Mind was basically surfing,

Maybe.

May have been the very first things that came into it.

I've been surfing forever,

So even longer than I've been meditating,

I've been surfing.

But basically when we go out to surf a lot of times,

We just paddle out into the water and we sit there and we have these periods of no thought.

You're just watching everything.

You're just an observer and just patiently waiting for a good wave to come to you.

Of course some surfers believe you have to work for the waves,

And that's another story,

But basically it's a form of Zen,

A form of No Mind.

And then you can carry that into your meditation.

So you lie down to meditate and you sit and you watch.

You become a watcher on the hill.

You just sit and watch all your thoughts and just observe them.

Don't feed them,

Just watch them.

If you feed them,

Yeah,

They're going to keep going.

And if you try to stop them,

Then it's going to get even worse.

Just the act of trying to stop a thought creates more energy into thinking.

So basically you've got to remember that thoughts are pretty much parasites.

They don't have a life of their own.

And if you watch them and just watch their lives and don't interrupt with them,

They solely fade away.

And then these moments of No Mind,

These gaps of No Thought will come.

It may take a while,

But just like the seed underground,

You have to give it time.

And you have to give it this space.

Without the space to happen,

The seed will never flower.

So maybe what you need is someone to say,

Hey,

Trust me,

And experiment with these moments of No Thought.

Nothing bad is going to happen to you if you have periods of No Thought.

It's not like Alzheimer's disease where your mind is completely gone.

What happens is basically you become the master.

Your consciousness gets shifted into being the master.

And then your mind becomes a servant.

But it's not a slave.

It's not a horrible thing.

It's actually a very beautiful thing that can happen to you.

Because as soon as you make that shift to consciousness,

Then you get in touch with what they call cosmic consciousness.

And cosmic consciousness is what guides people when they can't think,

When they're in a panic situation,

Maybe almost getting ready to get into a car wreck and they are able to use their consciousness fast enough to avoid the car wreck.

I know another example that I bring up quite a lot is about the samurais in the old samurai days.

The movements are so fast with the swords,

With the samurais who are really good samurais,

The movements are so fast that the samurai that stops and thinks is the one that dies.

You can stay ahead of the mind and stay in touch with consciousness and consciousness will guide you through every action that you do.

And you can use this in your daily lives.

There's a funny story I told a friend of mine one time I was working with.

I said,

Hey,

I spent the whole day today without thinking once.

And he was like,

What?

What are you talking about?

That's just stupid.

How can you not think?

Are you just dumb or what?

But I was like,

No,

No,

I use my consciousness to guide me through.

And no thought opens a space for consciousness to happen.

It opens a space for existence to come within you and revolve and you become centered in existence instead of centered on your mind,

Which is on the periphery,

Which so it's very unbalanced in the first place.

So this new center,

This new core will actually guide you through everything you're doing in life and benefit your life in many,

Many ways.

But for every beginning,

There's an end of something else.

And there's no end to the story,

Basically.

So the seed starts off his journey.

And it's underground.

And we are just like the seeds underground,

We had the potential to be great trees,

You know,

Great,

Beautiful flowers,

And we have that potential within us to be something great.

But the problem is,

Is that every seed,

Just like having an ego,

It thinks it already is that big flower,

That big tree.

But it's never broken the soil.

And that's the tell of time is that right there is that when you break the soil for the first time,

That is in a sense enlightenment.

You see the sun for the very first time,

You thought you saw the sun,

But you were just a seed.

So you didn't see the sun the same way as a plant sees a sun.

The plant has a relationship with the sun.

Without the sun,

The plant would die.

So there's a relationship between us and God,

Because God in the sense of what I'm trying to explain is God is the sun.

And we are just these plants,

You know,

That are breaking out into the air for the very first time.

So if you haven't listened to the track I made about how to become enlightened,

Or maybe a few of the other tracks I've made prior to this,

It's all building up to this grand finale,

Right?

Hopefully there's no grand finale that finishes everything.

We'd like to think that it's just continuous.

We're just going from one journey to the next,

From one form to the next.

And who knows how high it really goes?

I mean,

Who knows after you become enlightened,

You know,

What will happen to you after that?

But most enlightened people have the same answer.

And basically it's like,

Don't worry about what happens after that.

Because if you live in the present moment,

You're not being pulled by the future.

You're not being pulled by the past anymore.

These things like anger,

Jealousy,

Greed,

All these negative emotions,

You won't really feel them as a center anymore.

They may be on the periphery,

But they won't be at your center anymore because you shifted.

You made this shift in life from the mind center to the real center.

And the real center is not the heart center either.

The heart is closer to—feelings are closer to the real center.

But you have to go deeper.

It's into your real core,

The hara of your being.

The Japanese call it the hara.

But all this starts with no mind.

It starts with that sitting down and finding a little discipline within yourself to not really force yourself to sit down every night.

But if you need to push that type of discipline into your life,

That's not a bad thing.

It becomes a bad thing when you don't love doing something.

When you meditate and you fall in love with meditating,

Just for the pure blissfulness that meditation creates for you.

When you meditate for no reason at all and you love doing it,

That's devotion.

Then it's not a duty anymore.

It's not a four-letter word.

It's something that becomes beautiful.

Something that you love doing has no duty to it.

It has no work to it.

It's not a negative thing.

It's something that you'll enjoy more and more the more you do it.

And everybody can be at a different level on this journey in life too.

Some people may have already experienced no mind a little bit and they just need a little incentive to stay in the underground,

In the darkness.

You have to give yourself enough time.

And by that,

I would say in the beginning,

If you're a beginning meditator,

At least 15 minutes.

At a minimum 15 minutes.

30 minutes is way better.

Depending more than 45 minutes,

It may be too much.

Because if you can't keep checking a seed under the ground all the time,

If you keep disturbing the soil,

You're not giving the seed the benefits.

So anywhere from 30 minutes to 45 minutes is perfect.

An hour.

If you feel real busy and you can't be centered and you can't find that stillness,

Then you have to meditate a little bit longer.

I know that doesn't make sense,

But you have to get to that point in meditation where no mind can happen.

And no mind is the launching pad to centering with a new consciousness.

And of course that leads to the next pitfall.

Like I said,

If you meditate for two hours or three hours at a time,

It can be unhealthy for you.

Too much meditation can be unhealthy.

I had to learn that myself the hard way.

Because when you become really spiritual,

Then the body can suffer in a way.

Illnesses of the body.

Because you feel detached from the body.

Not that you're not the body.

The body is a part of you.

Without the body you wouldn't exist.

So the body is an extension of you.

Just like the mind.

The mind and body are inseparable.

These two things are inseparable.

But your consciousness is separate.

You're able to separate it from your mind and your body.

So you can feel that you're more than.

It's not that you're not the mind,

You're not the body.

That's not true.

That's a twist in people's words to try to make it sound like something that it's not.

But yeah,

The body can suffer a little bit if you don't pay attention and take care of the needs of the body as well.

So Osho made a term for it.

He called it loss in God's echo.

People who meditate for hours and hours and hours,

They start to have sleep problems.

They start to have other issues in life.

Their health goes downhill.

Because you have to take care of the body.

It's still a part of you.

It is you,

But you're just more than that.

And when you switch to consciousness,

And when you become enlightened,

When you pierce the ground for the first time and experience that divine light,

Then it all starts to make sense.

Everything falls into place.

But there is a period,

Like a waiting period.

A baby has nine months to grow.

And it's different for every person.

Some people might only need a week or two weeks,

Depending on where they're at on this journey.

And they've spent a lot of time in this no-mind state.

And no-mind is different from someone who is ignorant.

No-mind,

Like I said,

Is a contact with consciousness once you pierce the ground.

And this consciousness will guide you throughout your life,

Even before enlightenment.

Because consciousness reaches into your core,

And it's trying to talk to you and help guide you,

But it's reaching out from a different center,

One that you're not used to.

Like they said,

Intuition is something.

If you don't listen to intuition,

Then you usually end up paying the price for it.

But one of the hardest things in life that I had to learn how to do is to trust existence,

To know that I'm cradled by existence.

That is,

Once you make the shift from the mind center to your real core,

To your real consciousness center,

Then you're cradled by existence.

Existence will always take care of you.

Even if you feel like you haven't had a meal in a day or two,

And life seems very dire and everything could be hectic in your life,

Who knows?

Everybody's going through a lot of different things all the time.

But once you accept the fact that existence cradles you,

Then things start falling into place.

Things start going your way again.

Because it's like Jesus said,

Thy will be done.

At first Jesus fought everything with his will,

But when he realized that it's bigger than him,

Then he shifted his consciousness into his real center and said,

Thy will be done.

So anyway,

I guess we'll end it with that.

That was a nice,

Beautiful talk,

And I hope you guys enjoyed it.

And girls and boys and everybody,

Have a Merry Christmas.

If we get this put out before Christmas,

That'd be awesome.

If not,

We'll see you next year.

I don't know if I'm going to be able to make another recording before their deadline of December 17th.

I think this might be it until mid-January of next year.

So hang in there.

I will be able to,

If you look me up on Facebook under Douglas Grumman's,

Then I also put out videos on Facebook and sometimes YouTube.

I haven't done a YouTube one in a little while because Facebook is so much easier and Insight Timer has taken up most of my time.

So anyway,

Thank you again for joining me.

Namaste to all my friends and Aloha to all my serpent friends and Merry Christmas to everybody.

Take care then.