Two Major Stages Of Mindfulness Or Meditation

Freedom, Happiness, and wisdom. When we learn the principles of eastern wisdom, we apply discernment that becomes dispassion. The highest dispassion leads to knowledge of real self, awakens to permanent happiness. We will learn from Yoga Sutra, Gita, and other texts together to discover the true nature.

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We have to check ourselves, I have done meditation for an hour, And after a few hours, The mind returns to the same old habit and state. No, That is not what the meditation is. That is not what the Patanjali is saying. That is not what our masters are saying. So that needs to be, Once we understand that, Then we say yes, What we will, What this Patanjali is teaching in the next sutra, How it should become a part and parcel of my day to day life. It is not one hour. It is not few hours of sleep or few hours of waking state, No. That state lays in you. That is what the journey of Eastern wisdom is. Do you have any questions, Stephen, David, Jerry, Laura, Kate? Or have you been practicing sharing? Last session, I think, Was more very important. Do you have any question you want to share your experiences? I will start in a few minutes. So, So, So, Gareesh, Can I keep reflecting on the image that I saw the last time? Because it keeps kind of having it in my mind. Is that a good thing? Can I ask you what you made? I saw, So I saw like, At the end of it, I started to see these prisms kind of come in, Like rainbow colors, Like different colors, Like a light, But they weren't, It wasn't straight. It was like little, They were, I don't know how to describe it. There was lines everywhere, But I keep having moments where I will like, Go back to it during meditation or just like throughout my day. Is that a good thing to go back to or should I let it go? Quite interesting. I had an encounter with, Or you know, This guy, Used to come to my sessions. There used to be 20 people in New Jersey. And the way I always ask, Can you share your experiences after the end of the session? So he said, I see God, I don't want to name the God, But he used to tell me that I see the God and I communicate with the God. So I told him that, Then why you are coming to meditations? No, I have a lot of stress. I said, Why don't you communicate with the God and tell the God to get rid of the stress? After all, God is all-pervading. That is what we understand. And why we pray God? To get rid of the stress, To get rid of the suffering, To get more money. So when we study Patanjali, We understand that there are a variety of visions and colors and experiences we undergo in meditation. What we have to do? So you asked the very right question and that we are going to take up in this session. In the 17th Sutra. Do you remember what we studied last time? Did you reflect on this? We discussed that existence is our father. And Eastern wisdom, What is Eastern wisdom? It is an instrument of knowledge. It is the mother. And who is the baby? The baby is the intellect. So the way the mother teaches and educates the baby, Come on, Why you are putting everything into your mouth? You see, That is what used to happen when we were babies. We saw something go into the mouth. Even sometime we saw the lizard, Okay, Put it into the mouth. So the Eastern wisdom teaches the intellect like a baby, No, You have to put this, You have not to put this. So what happens to the intellect? Intellect goes into the steady wisdom. That intellect lives in the steady wisdom and the steady wisdom plus practice leads to awakening. So now the 17th Sutra says, Vitharka vichar anand asmita anugamat sampragnata He says one stage of meditation, It consists of four stages. So all the four stages is known as sampragnata. Sampragnata means simply, Now I'm answering Lara. Sampragnata means the meditation with the vision, With an experience, With an object, Whatever you want to say. So it may be with an object, It may be with a vision, It may be with the color. So now the next Sutra, I should take up the next Sutra in order to answer that, Viram apraktyaya abhyasapurva sanskarashesho nanya Literal translation is, When all the impressions coming from the world outside and also the past impressions present in the mind are totally gone. That is the higher state of meditation. So tell me you want to live into the higher state of meditation or the lower state of meditation. If the vision comes, Let it come. The vision goes away, Let it go. If the God comes in my meditation and they want to communicate, Let us communicate and they disappear. Thank you, God. Now I'm only talking of meditation. I'm not talking of release and dogma, Believe in God. Thank you, God. You have come, You have gone. That too is thank you. So now we go back to the very first Sutra. A seeker only succeeds in meditation. So now we are a seeker. So that seeker knows the five subjective states of the mind. Do you remember? I have repeated many a times. What is that wandering? That is known as chipta. Second state is moorha, The foolishness. Third state is vichypta. So there is a difference between the wandering state of the mind and distracted. When you are practicing meditation and the mind is going somewhere else, Then you do not succeed in meditation. That is known as vichypta. And the wandering is general nature of the wandering and the mind is wandering. So now relate the Sutra to this five subjective states of the mind. The fourth is, The definition of the fourth is given in the third pada of the samadhi, Third pada of the Patanjali yug-sutra. What is that? Desha Bandhasya Chitasya Dharana. When the mind is holding on to an object, What object we are holding on? So we are holding a dynamic object in our meditation practices that we are doing. And what is that dynamic object? Mantra. You see that? The mantra. That is how I design and customize the practice of meditation. So go a little deeper. So what exactly the Patanjali is saying? It's like a story of a woodcutter and a monk. So that woodcutter always goes to the forest, Cut the wood, Sell it to maintain his livelihood. And one day he went to a monk to seek the blessing. The monk looked into his eyes and said, Walk on. I'm answering in a different way your question, Lara. So walk on. So that woodcutter did not understand he went to his house to talk to his wife. Wife said, No, Perhaps monk is saying that you go deep into the forest. So woodcutter the next day went deeper into the forest and he found the sandalwood trees. So now he was cutting the sandalwood trees, Selling it. He became rich. But after a year, You see that? We stuck to one vision, One color, One experience. We want to hold on to that. No experience, You cannot hold any experience. You cannot hold any vision. You have to crush the mind. But anyhow, After a year, That woodcutter reminded, Reflected on. Monk said that walk on. He did not say you to stop. So he walked on and he found the silver mines. He continued to walk on. He found the gold mines. He continued to walk on. He found the diamond mines. He became the richest guy in his village. And after that, Nothing was found. It is the objectless state of the meditation. He found himself. Go back to the third sutra. Tada drashtu surupaya avasthana. Can you compare you with the 10 million dollar lying in the bank? Who is more important? Your happiness coming from inside and all the material riches outside? Now I have understood it. So after doing meditation, My mind goes back again to the same object of the material riches and it holds on to it to secure happiness. That is the cause of ignorance. That is the cause of suffering. So now going back again to this sutra. So when we go back into this sutra, Now that will answer. You have asked many a times during the last one year what these colors, I see those colors, What that means, What are the visions, What it means, Whether I have gone into the deeper. So master says, What the master is saying? Master is saying that there are four stages of meditation with an object. First level of experience is vitharka. Vitharka means that the mind experiences the physical objects during meditation. At the second level, The mind experiences the subtler objects. What are those subtler objects? Can you make out? Sound, Vision, Colors. So now you can make out that where you stand for. And the third level is the subtler. You know, Sometimes you have told me, I don't want to say, You know, I was full of joy. There was an intense joy coming from within. And you have also told me that is the third level. Subtler. You only experience that joy, That peace, That calmness coming from somewhere else. And the fourth one, Sometimes you have said, Oh, This meditation has passed in a few minutes. Even you have done for such a long. Fourth state. Fourth stage. Now, Can you categorize instantly? Now, You know where you stand. What is very important? Can you make out what is very important out of these four stages of meditation? That your mind experiences it. So they are in, I would say, In ascending order. Physical, The lowest. Subtle vision, Colors, Sound. Second level. Third level is the subtler. The pure, Sheer joy. And the fourth level is you feel, I don't want to say anything. I want to remain, You know, It's totally blank. I am, That is the fourth level. You get a glimpse of what I am. Total blankness, But still it is not blankness. Yeah, I think I should bring it in this session. I'll say why it is not. So he says that you get a sense of I am. You're in meditation. Only I am. Not I am Lara, I am Ked, I am David. No, I am. Only I am. No objective. No object. No personification. I am. That I am is normally understood as choiceless awareness. But we have Patanjali says that is not the end of the journey. You have yet continued the journey. Walk on. Like the woodcutter, The monk said walk on. Walk on. Walk on. So why to walk on? You have, You will reach to a state which is irreversible. You have returned from meditation and you are still living into the same state. You are living into the same state and that state is oozing out. What? Peace and happiness, Love and the joy. When and where? 24 by 7. Here and now. That is where what the third sutra is saying. Tada drashtu swarupa avasthanam. The mind is now settled in my real nature. That real nature is satchitanand. Keep a smile on the face. Need not to think too much. You know I'm taking you to the journey, You know, Step by step. So why do you be so serious? So the first four stages of meditation is known as sampragyaat samadhi. Now see the beauty in the difference between the release in dogma, Kart, Belief and the journey of meditation. It is totally different. God comes into the vision. Thank you God. God goes out of the vision. Thank you God. We have nothing to do with release in dogma, Belief and kart. Very clear, Patanjali says. Be very clear, 100% clear. They come, Let them come. They go, Let them go. Now before going into the practice of meditation, We should also understand that what a journey like this. In the first chapter, We are covering the first chapter. The first chapter is for the seeker. And the seeker has already practiced a lot of meditation and then he is studying or she is studying a systematic study of meditation. Why? To bring an end to the suffering once and for all and to awaken to the inner nature, The real nature. So the second sutra, He says, When all the impressions have completely dissolved, Destroyed, Inherent impressions are destroyed, Then you reach to the objectless state. In that objectless state, The Patanjali says that is not end of the journey. Then you have two more meditation practices, Which is known as sabij samadhi and nirbij samadhi. Sabij meditation, Nirbij meditation, Which is also known as sabitark and nirvitark. After that, No. Is that end of the meditation? No. Then you enter into dharma meer samadhi. Is that the end of the journey? No. Ultimately, You enter into a state what is known as ritambharata tapraprajna. That this mind in the intellect is constantly pulsating with the real nature. What is that real nature? It is the state of pure consciousness, Truth, Permanent peace and love in the wisdom. That love, That wisdom constantly coming from inside when it comes all the time. You live into that state of the highest consciousness. That is now is that the end of the meditation? Then it comes into the fourth padha or fourth chapter of Patanjali. Then Patanjali says when you are living into that, You have a variety of experiences. What are those experiences? Don't get carried away by this. I'm only taking a briefly. Don't fix your goal like this. What I'm going to say now. Otherwise, The mind will be destroyed. You will not be able to reach to that state. Let it come naturally. So what happens? What is the fourth? Ah, Chapter or third chapter. Yeah, Third chapter. So now there is a natural, The mind moves natural ways. So say, For example, You want to meditate on time. How can you meditate on time? Should we discuss that now? No, We have yet to reach to that state. So what happens when you meditate on time? You can read the thoughts of others. Isn't it Christian? I love him. How can I read the thoughts of others? So that builds the ego. The mind goes outside. Meditation is moving inside. And you destroy yourself. So when you meditate on the earth element, Something more comes. When you meditate on air element, Something more comes. Now does that, Should we do it now? To demonstrate, To show powers to the others. The moment you enter into that area of ego, Everything is destroyed. I have seen at least 10 different masters. There was a liberty when I was living in India. You find those masters who show and demonstrate those powers. So only one Indian guy is present here, But he knows I'm exposing myself. So when they used to come to me and they say, You know, Sir, I have a lot of problems. Can it be done in a day? I said, Go to that master. He has all the powers. Take his blessings. At least, You know, I will be free from that guy. It doesn't work in that way. Never go there. One percent truth is there. Then why I was sending? I want to live in a freedom. So I used to send those people, My friends and students, Because you are not a seeker. So I used to send them to those masters. And they all know what those masters are undergoing. When you demonstrate those powers, Magic, They are living a very difficult life. He knows, I sent him a couple of masters. Go take his blessing. Why? You are not ready for it. So the same thing Patanjali says clearly in the third chapter. The last thing that I will take up before we start our meditation today. So we are talking of the four stages of meditation in this sutra. What is before that? Have we done that? No, We have not done that. So it is very good to know whether we have done it or not. So I will pick up a couple of the sutras from the third chapter. So that we understand from where the journey of meditation starts, According to Patanjali. Have I been so serious in talking? No, I'm just presenting the things. My Indian students will start, You know, Making, Saying, Oh, You have made me fool. No, I did not make you fool. You are making yourself fool when you are looking for some magic, Trick, Power. It has nothing to do with it. Patanjali also warned it and every master says, What is the goal that I must find out my real nature so that I should live in my real nature, My real self all the time, 24 by 7, So that I can experience pure joy, Happiness, Love, Wisdom, Creativity in my personal, Professional, Social and family lives. There is some noise coming from outside. It's OK. So let us start our journey of meditation. Close your eyes. Close your eyes, My friends. I told you I'm not a teacher, I'm just a pointer. So take me casually, But take these principles seriously. Eyes are closed, Gently, And you are first looking at the body. First, You are looking at the body. Become aware of the body. So when you see the body is steady, The mind is looking inside in the heart, In the space. I am. Just to make yourself aware from the last session, You can access the last session on social media. So I am, That I am is the existence. It is not I am the body, Mind, Intellect, Husband, Wife, Son, Daughter. No, Nothing of that sort. That I am is the real pure existence. And when I say I know I am, I know comes from the consciousness, Feelings, Sensation, Knowledge, Awareness. All are part of consciousness. So two things will happen. What is existence and consciousness? And third is, I know I'm happy. That happiness is an extension of existence and consciousness. That is the realization takes place in meditation. So looking at, Looking at the neck joint, Let us make it comfortable. We have new friends. So it is better to pick up one or two steps. Look at the neck joint. Physical level is the neck joint. You see the object. What we discussed, I'm translating that into a practice. And then you experience sensation being comfortable and steadiness. In the neck joint, Yes. And what is behind and beyond that sensation being comfortable and steadiness. Only the space. So what we are doing, We are merging all the two different types of meditation. The first type, We have four stages with object. In the fifth, We have no object. So no object, We are taking it as a space. So move casually. Understanding the principles clearly and then doing it. Meditation always succeeds. So looking at the shoulder joints, Who looks mind, Awareness, You know it. That is an object. From an object, We moved at the subtler level. We experience sensation being comfortable and steadiness. And what is behind that? The space. The entire body. The entire body. All the joints, One after the other. When the eyes are closed gently, The mind moves within with experience of sensation being comfortable and steadiness. And it is facing inside. What it is looking, The space. So in that state, We go for nyasa. Many words, Nyasa, Sannyasa. Sannyasa means renunciate. But here, The real meaning of sannyasa is all round purification of the mind. We are not becoming a monk. So are you in the state of steadiness and comfortable? Start breathing little deep. Silent and slow. Means that you are, You have changing the rate and the rhythm of the breath. So check this breath is rhythmic. Check this breath is rhythmic. So breath is our car. I'm using a metaphor to make you understand. The mind is the driver and the highway is the space inside. You see, We take the mind to the objectless state again and again. So how we do it as you inhale, Move the mind inside the right arm from the shoulder to the fingers. As you exhale, Move the mind from the fingertips to the shoulder. Make sure the mind is looking into the space. That space is our highway. So actually we are engaging the mind to at least discover and become aware that there is something like the objectless state. Many things happen. The mind starts enjoying living within. Wandering, Forgetfulness and distracted state stops. Now move the mind inside the left arm. From the shoulder to the fingertips. When you inhale or exhale, Doesn't matter. And at the same time, Experience the steadiness in the body. Experience the steadiness in the body. It comes naturally. You need not to force it, My friend. That is the beauty. When the knowledge merges with the step, It leads you to a deeper state instantly. So we are doing, This is, The process is known as Niyasa. And now move the mind inside the right leg. Right leg from the right side of the waist to the toes as you inhale. You know, As you inhale and you move the mind with inhalation, Both support each other. In Hatha Yoga, We say, Chale vate chalam chattam nishchale nishchalam bhavate. A beautiful verse. Wonderful principle. When you regulate the mind, The breath is regulated, The prana is regulated. When you regulate the prana, The mind is regulated. And here what we are doing? We are using the breath, We are using the mind too. So in practice, Just the double. And now move the mind inside the left leg. You will find yourself, If you are following the step as explained, You may start feeling some sensation, Tingling in the body. Can I stop? Can I repeat those experiences? No. Recognize them, Accept them and continue. So in our journey, All, Every meditation practice is made consist of different steps, Leading to different result. Now moving the mind inside the spine from the crown of the head to the tailbone. When you inhale, The mind drops distance down from the crown of the head to the tailbone, In the space within, And you may drop, Mentally sing, Oh. When the breath returns, The mind moves from the tailbone to the crown of the head. You are saying, Oh. You have been saying that I don't use any external means. Maybe a sound or something from the outside. Because the mind will remain outside, It may be absorbed, No doubt. But when we learn meditation, According to the teachings of our masters, No outside object should be there. Mm-hmm. Now leave the step, Leave the breath, It doesn't mean the body should move. You are leaving the step at a mental level, The breath becomes normal. We went a little step ahead with the mantra, And here we will go back. It doesn't mean that you will not progress. So, Singing and listening is the first stage. We have merged last time. So, Looking deep inside the heart, Singing and mentally singing, And listening to what you are singing only, The first line of the mantra. Sarvesham swasthir bhavatuh. Mentally you are singing and you are listening to what you are singing. Sarvesham swasthir bhavatuh. Now we will go to the second stage, Singing, Listening and the meaning. What is the meaning? Well-being. Can you see well-being? It is subtler. Can I experience that state? Yes. Can we express that well-being everywhere? Yes. Let us do it singing, Listening and meaning. Simply focus on the meaning, With the listening and in your mind and the singing. Sarvesham swasthir bhavatuh. Sarvesham swasthir bhavatuh. The literal meaning is, Let there be a well-being everywhere. It is a subtler level. Now we see that singing, Listening, Meaning and the applied wisdom. If the mind constantly, Consciously lives in the state of the well-being, You discover something deeper within. Not only in you, But in everyone. So let us with that feeling, Let us do it mentally again. Singing, Listening, Meaning and knowing. Sarvesham swasthir bhavatuh. Sarvesham swasthir bhavatuh. We will take the second mantra. Follow the same sequence. The first stage is singing and the listening. So even if you don't understand the meaning and you do it singing and you are listening to it, Every Sanskrit word is a mantra. It has the sound, It has the vibration, It changes the movement of the prana. Second line. Sarvesham shantir bhavatuh. In the second stage of the mantra, Singing, Listening and meaning. The second thing is let there be a peace everywhere. Bhavatuh should happen. Shanti means peace. Sarvesham everyone. Sarvesham shantir bhavatuh. Sarvesham shantir bhavatuh. Sarvesham shantir bhavatuh. Now the third stage, Singing, Listening, Meaning and applied wisdom. Applied knowledge means what? According to our eastern wisdom, It says that peace is all-pervading. It is always present deep within us. Similarly, It is present within every being. We start looking and discussing about anxiety, Duality, Depression, Why not peace? You see the message is clear. Let us do it for a couple of times and see the result by yourself. Sarvesham shantir bhavatuh. Sarvesham shantir bhavatuh. Sarvesham shantir bhavatuh. Sarvesham shantir bhavatuh. Sarvesham shantir bhavatuh. Sarvesham shantir bhavatuh. Third line is still deeper. Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. Puranam means a sense of completeness, Wholeness. We have to discover a center within us behind the mind that is whole, That is one, That is complete in itself. And who is that? My real nature. What is the goal of meditation? Real nature? Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. You are singing and listening. Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. I have already explained the meaning. So six times you sing and you listen to what you are singing mentally. What will happen? You have to raise your awareness to sing yourself, To listen to the noise outside. It's very easy. By default the ear says, Yes, I hear. See the beauty? Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. Now singing, Listening, Meaning and the applied knowledge. What is applied knowledge? Let the mind go deeper within and find the wholeness, Oneness in you. Why? Why? The moment you are at the center of the wholeness, All desires, Craving, Obsession, Anxiety drops by itself. I need not to fight with it. Is that so? Can it happen in one session? I cannot answer. That's the one session. Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. Sarvesham puranam bhavatuh. Sarvesham purnam bhavatu fourth line sarvesham mangalam bhavatu mangalam means auspicious moment what is when the auspicious moment? It should be 24 by 7 let us do it singing and listening sarvesham mangalam bhavatu sarvesham mangalam bhavatu sarvesham mangalam bhavatu and 6 times singing and listening with the meaning meaning is auspiciousness so here is the auspicious moment can I recognize auspicious moment? How? Leave all the thoughts that makes us crazy sarvesham mangalam bhavatu sarvesham mangalam bhavatu sarvesham mangalam bhavatu sarvesham mangalam bhavatu sarvesham mangalam bhavatu sarvesham mangalam bhavatu I am doing just to demonstrate but you are doing with me that's fine but you are also singing, Listening, Meaning and now the applied movement, Applied knowledge so when the first line, Well-being merges with the peace and then it merges with the sense of completeness in me every moment in my life becomes auspicious moment can you experience stress anxiety, Duality conflict in an auspicious moment? No! You leave them too far sarvesham mangalam bhavatu sarvesham mangalam bhavatu sarvesham mangalam bhavatu sarvesham mangalam bhavatu sarvesham mangalam bhavatu sarvesham mangalam bhavatu Did I explain the three subjective states of the mind? One is wandering, You already know the other is sense of forgetfulness the mind goes somewhere else, Feels sleepy, Lazy during the practice of meditation third, Distraction so when you are doing the practice step and the mind is still going somewhere and if it is going somewhere it will move the body not only you notice, I will also notice that is why I say it is always good if you keep your videos open so now comes the Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti so we are going to do with singing in the mind, Listening, Meaning and the applied knowledge what is applied knowledge? Aum is symbolically is my real nature no release in called dogma belief itself throw them out from the mind second shanti is for the causal body so those who do not understand in this session they simply look into the infinite dark space they drop shanti into that second shanti is for the mind, Intellect and ego third shanti is for the body and the world so you are moving the mind from deeper inside to outside by saying, Singing, Listening Aum Shanti, Let us start mentally Aum Shanti, First shanti to all which I do not know in meditation second shanti is to the mind, Intellect and ego Shanti third is to the body and the world Aum Shanti, Shanti, Shanti Aum Shanti, Shanti, Shanti you are living in mantra that is more important Aum Shanti, Shanti, Shanti do it couple of times yourself living in mantra means experiential understanding I do not want to say evidence approached that has less to do with the meditation what a beauty I appreciate you all do not follow the teacher, Follow the Eastern wisdom Aum now stop this Aum Shanti only one Aum Shanti walk down your mind from the crown of the head to the heart within singing mentally Aum Shanti let the Shanti take you very deep inside the heart and when you see the mind seems to stop do nothing if it does not stop walk down again from the crown of the head to the heart within Aum Aum Aum now do nothing remain as you are you live in a state of doing nothing when you live in a state of doing nothing that I always say is the last step of meditation what it means we don't ask the mind to do why mindfulness knowledge reveals but that is not the end of it once we return in a specific way from this meditation we will share our experiences those who want to share to progress openly bluntly Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti bring your mind on the right hand we don't rub our palms in this meditation or in any practice why because the mind jumps to the body it doesn't remain within bring the mind on the left palm feel the sensation slowly gently raise both your palms place it on closed eyes and open the eyes inside the palms know your experiences bring the hands down and now is the time to share your experiences so how are you Stephen? I'm good peaceful I could see your face yes is a muscle peaceful? Yes I could see it was I have to say it was a pretty deep meditation it was quiet it was fast it was I heard you I had no desire to really do anything I heard it and I was there I was present beautiful it was great beautiful beautiful good how are you Sam? I'm good I guess I have to describe it similarly it's just you know very effortless that's the point I guess when you realize you're not even you know your breath is even coming in and out so easily smoothly with you know the environment around you and yeah effortless time all that stuff you see? That's a beautiful you see that normally we talk about mindfulness is effortless if I don't make an effort if I don't make a journey how can I reach to the state of effortlessness? No meditation is effortless so be lazy sleep that is not you see a lot of so we have a lot of misunderstanding about it so if I don't practice I don't change my crazy and the lazy mind that is what the Sam is explaining that it was pretty effortless but he has been doing it that's how you got into it so how are you David and Jerry? Good to be back I think it was very to Stephen's point it was very painful I heard you but I didn't hear you it was just a very short bit beautiful hello hi can you hear? Yeah yeah we can hear sir it was today it was it was also quiet I noticed in the Miata it used to be a very pinpointed space that I would look into the arms and the legs and now it's more of a vast space like a one lane highway now it's a you know eight lane highway and then with the meditation there's just this overwhelming feeling of during the mantra of peace peace and happiness literally still this lightness I did and I guess that's about it that's beautiful one point now we will continue to understand whatever the experiences that takes place in the mind with reference to these four stages so that was the second stage we can figure out when you said it's an eight lane highway it means more expansion of the mind and that is the subtler you see that Lara how are you Lara? I am good I also had sort of a similar experience with Jiri because the Nyasa was just this vastness it almost felt like these waves through my body and then when you started chanting it was actually on the second one the shantir my body went shoop it just like hit me and brought me more into alignment yeah yeah yeah you're right and so then I was just with that experiencing that it was also very quiet and slick quiet and slick the meditation there's quick now quick we spent almost 35-36 minutes now you see that gradually we will understand once you had the fourth stage of experience out of the four and one purely but it was a physical level physical subtler and you see that is how we go deeper and deeper so I will continue to explain in every session that what happens how to go into it so it is not that you are into the first stage and it will take a year to move into the fourth stage anyone can jump into the fourth state anyone can remain at the first stage it depends on the day, The time and our mental state how are you my friend Kate? Now you have to unmute it first I have muted your ah, Ah, I'm really good one thing happened that I have a question about which I don't think I've ever had it happen at the very end of the, Very end of the meditation when you asked us to put our hands over our eyes yes I saw a very like, It was spectacular blue and then it went black and second level yes it was deeper so actually I felt much deeper in the meditation I'm talking about when we were coming out so I just wanted to stay in the meditation yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah so these vision and colors vision and colors indicates the mind in a flash went deeper with the vision and these colors and then it returned again so that is so that is why I always say that you need not to rub because when you rub the mind is already at the physical level in all meditation I always ask you to do like this very good Kate how are you Christina? I always tell younger people, Everyone is young including me so young people should be doing meditation yeah, I love hearing people go first because I feel the same thing almost every time in like the slightest way so peace, I was going to be embarrassed to say peaceful because I felt like that would have been so like duh but that's all I felt the whole time and because I've been really practicing or letting my thoughts pass because I have really high anxiety and so I have a bracing mind all the time yeah, Yeah so my focus has been letting those thoughts pass and so I was able to do that and I didn't realize I was letting myself do that until I heard you um, Alm and I felt myself like spiral into like that's good, That's good I loved that and I was like oh I didn't even realize I was letting thoughts pass until I noticed that I was younger you see Lara, Second stage second stage so that's how we instantly understand as we graduate, That's very good Christina you have to listen to the talk again and again so that the mind becomes clear and then you practice it will bring a good result so how are you my friend Arnet no, Annet Annet Raskin am I talking, Am I saying the right name am I speaking the name correctly Annet Raskin, You have to unmute it and then we'll have Terry I don't hear you we don't hear you even though unmuted but we will make out you keep speaking you know so we'll make out with the movement of your lips anyhow you try and in the meantime we will go to Terry how are you Terry I'm not sure, It's a good lesson and I'm very good I know that you couldn't see me I've been moving a little bit but then halfway through I used to get it very good Terry you have to continue you get the audio files continue the journey continue the journey so this is what happens I just was talking I met almost 100 masters so there were about 10 different masters they have acquired certain powers 1% is true out of 100 people 1% you know those who have done a lot of practices they get these powers so I had maybe 100, 000 students in India so when they used to come and I used to see that oh he's not a seeker he wants an instant result so I said go to that master so when they used to go to that master they were more impressed by them than I used to say to them that you have to pay them something out of the respect don't pay me you need not to pay me so they were convinced that there is a line with the 500 people to seek the blessing from that master he used to sit in a room oh sir I have a problem so you used to bless and give something you go there and it will be so sometimes those students never return to me I said I'm very happy with that what you are looking for is more important in the journey of meditation you see that's what you know today I just you know it came to my mind and I spoke about it do you have any question? So very good we'll continue our journey yes next time we will understand the second stage of meditation when we say what is that objectless state of meditation so how it happens what is the role of the intellect the mind and the body into that that is all for today thank you my friends yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you have questions Christina, Are you recording after the session? What did you say? What? Did she? Did you get the recording after we finished? Did they come to you or no? No I just got your email okay I will make sure the afterwards you get the recording okay awesome thank you okay beautiful thank you thank you Anna Driscan I'll listen to you next time thank you