Awaken To Your Own Divine Nature With Paul Selig

In this episode, I connect with one of my all-time favorite spiritual authors renowned Channeler, Paul Selig. Paul and The Guides help us to understand the turmoil we are moving through as a collective and how we can choose to ascend to the Upper Room, awakening to our own divine nature. 

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It's how we show up for whatever we're doing in our lives and doing that from our heart that I think makes the real contribution to the whole,

Whatever that may be.

And we live in a culture that makes one thing higher than the next.

And that's just not true either.

Hello,

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Now let the collective share begin.

Welcome back to the Soul Collective.

I am so grateful you're here.

You are in for a divine treat today.

We are joined by psychic teacher and award-winning author Paul Selig.

Paul is the author of nine channel texts,

And he is considered to be one of the foremost spiritual teachers at this time.

Paul,

Thank you so much for joining us.

Welcome back to the Soul Collective podcast.

Thank you for having me.

Yeah,

So we had the treat of speaking with you not too long ago.

You were a guest on Unity Live,

Which is a platform that I co-host with Brooklyn Reign,

And it was truly a magical conversation,

And we'll link to that in the show notes.

But I'm hoping that we can really dive into where we left off,

And there's so much happening in the collective right now.

And I'd love to just kind of dive into some of the topics that we were discussing last time.

Okay,

I don't recall what we discussed last time.

You'll have to forgive me.

Yeah,

Well that's actually one of the questions that I have for you is that you,

I know,

Are so busy,

And you say yes to showing up and being in service to humanity.

And I'm just wondering from your perspective what that commitment has looked like for you over time and how that's maybe evolved.

Well,

I mean,

I work.

This is my job.

This is what I show up for.

I don't put myself in any kind of lofty position or role.

I'm actually not a spiritual teacher.

I'm a channel.

I sit in a chair and I take dictation,

And the dictation ends up being these books that don't require any editing.

They're all spoken into being.

And I have a practice as a psychic,

And I'm an odd psychic in that I'm a medium for the living.

So I'm not talking to dead relatives,

But if you haven't talked to your cousin for a year,

I can probably hear your cousin pretty well.

But this is just,

I see it as a skill set that's been developed.

Through working,

I began sitting in a group and doing what I would now call channeling when I was in my early 30s,

And I'm nearly 60 now.

So in a lot of ways,

I trained for this while I was living a very different life as a college teacher,

And I did that for a very long time as well.

So the commitment to time,

I kind of tell you,

I feel that I'm very fortunate.

I'm not working in a factory.

I've had rough jobs in my life.

I'm not washing dishes.

I'm very happy to be what I'm doing.

I love being a college teacher.

I did it very well.

And this is my work now,

But I approach it in much the same way.

When you have a class of students waiting for you,

You show up on time.

You want to keep your job,

You show up on time.

I show up on time.

And I work with these guides,

And the deal is if I show up,

They're going to show up,

And this will happen in its own way,

Which is really still outside of my understanding how it happens.

So it's taxing sometimes.

I just released a book,

Which is The Kingdom,

And just two days ago,

They finished their tenth book,

Which was happening.

But that took six weeks of dictation,

Maybe 34,

35 days over six weeks with a few days off here and there.

And I mean,

It's amazing to me that a book can be born that way.

All I have to do is proofread the transcripts,

And then it goes to the publisher.

So I'm not complaining about the work.

I'm grateful for the work and how it comes through,

And I actually feel that the guides that I work with are in support of me through this.

So I'm not even more than I can hold,

And if I'm working too hard,

I get slowed down one way or another.

Yeah.

You mentioned showing up,

Which I think is a big part of it.

Is there anything else that's required of you,

Meaning like eating a healthy breakfast or?

I mean,

I'm the least healthy person I know in some ways,

And I'm really trying to work on that.

But no,

I don't eat sugar before I channel or the night before if I can help it because it makes me kind of drunk and hungover,

And I don't want to feel that way.

I don't take any drugs.

I don't I don't take any drugs.

I don't drink any alcohol.

I'm really clear on this stuff.

My abilities kicked in for me when I was 25 and I stopped drinking,

And that was the beginning of an opening spiritually and psychically.

And when I quit smoking sick breaths,

Which wasn't until I was 48 and I was a very heavy smoker,

The book started coming once that was out of my system.

And the guides had said,

We want to continue working with you and if you don't stop smoking,

We won't be able to.

And so I stopped four packs a day and I just stopped.

And then the book started coming probably within maybe six months or so of that time.

And they haven't stopped.

So I'm aware of my responsibility to my body and to my diet and all of those things.

I don't always do what I know to be best,

But I still like to be indulged.

So there you go.

Yeah.

You mentioned that you just finished your 10th book and we're going to be talking about your ninth,

The Kingdom.

Do you have a sense of what's next?

I mean,

Have you kind of signed up for quite a few more books to come?

Oh,

I agreed.

And I agreed to another trilogy when the guides are on board and my publisher said,

Yes.

So there's another trilogy and then I'm going to,

Supposedly if I can,

Write a memoir about what this whole experience has been like.

And after the next three books,

I don't know,

That will be 12th channel text in probably 13 years or something like that.

And it's not that I'm not willing to show up.

I think that there comes a time when the teaching that they brought through needs to feel complete,

But that just may be my presupposition.

So I've heard,

And I don't know when I heard it,

It was,

I think maybe in the last book,

Maybe in the current book that they just finished that after this trilogy,

There would still be more books,

But they probably wouldn't be part and parcel of the same teaching,

Which is really unfolding over this series of 12 texts.

Yeah.

It's interesting.

I don't usually go back and listen to my interviews.

And I went back and I listened to our conversation and I just found it to be so immensely helpful.

And there was so much love that was pouring through and not that you're a mushy gushy person by any means.

I know that you're not,

But I do find that the teachings from the guides,

There's so much patience and love that pours through.

That's my experience.

I mean,

They put up with my stuff.

I interrupt all the time when I'm concerned about a teacher or don't understand it,

But they're very good teachers.

I was a good teacher when I taught college.

They're very good teachers.

And they really,

I think,

Have this ability to sort of take their students through this process that is pretty unreal if you really look at what they're teaching when it's a real unfoldment.

And they take us as far as we can go as we're willing to go there.

They're not bossy.

They're not,

And it's not self-help.

It's not three steps to enlightenment.

It's none of this stuff.

It's not about getting a better looking partner or a bigger house.

It's not any of those things.

It's really about,

They would say who and what we truly are and the realization of that in the world and how that informs and transforms the world that we're sharing.

Jessica And others.

And I'll say God as well because they would say God is all things.

But it's not convenient.

And there's nothing about this teaching that's convenient to my personality and how I want things to be.

I wish it were.

But I used to say there's a reason I'll never be channeling on cruise ships.

It's just not convenient.

And it's not always all that fun.

It's challenging stuff,

What they're talking about and where they're leading us.

Yeah.

So maybe we can go there if you can share with us what the kingdom is.

Well their definition of the kingdom,

If I get it right,

Is the realization of the inherent divine in all things.

So the guides have said there is one note played in the entire universe.

And they call that the word,

The one note that all things are made of,

One source.

And they say we're living in an octave of sound,

Of music.

And it's a collective octave that we share.

And this is the reality that we know.

And it has its rules.

And it has its low notes and its high notes like any octave.

And they say any piece of music and they say that we are all singing all the time because our song is our vibrational tone and frequency consciousness.

Any song can be transposed to be sung in a higher octave.

And the work that they're doing with us is aligning us to what they call the upper room,

Which is basically the beginning of the kingdom or the way to begin to align to what exists concurrently with us.

It's always been here,

But we haven't been aligned to it.

And the realization of the kingdom is the realization of the inherent manifest divine.

And in some ways,

It's as if I understand what they're saying and the kingdom is called into being through our awareness of it,

Through our agreement to it.

This is all a teaching of vibrational accord.

And they would say A-C-C-O-R-D or A-C-H-O-R-D is on the piano.

I've heard it for 10,

12 years now,

All the time,

A-C-C-O-R-D.

And what they're really talking about is the chord of resonance that we are and also being in accord or in alignment to what coexists at that level of vibration.

And that's the kingdom.

So,

They would say God knows God in all things.

God knows itself in all things.

And the realization of the divine self,

Which is the God within,

Doesn't mean that you as a level of personality are God.

I think that's a New Age teaching that's highly confused.

Somebody runs around,

I'm God,

I'm God,

I'm God,

Give me what I want.

It's really not about that.

It's about the realization of the one aspect of us that is in unity with all things.

And that level of realization,

They say,

Claims the kingdom into manifestation.

Beautiful.

I don't usually bring in current events,

But I feel like it is relevant.

I came across a study and it was reporting on COVID-19 and risk factors.

And we know that there's comorbidities and other factors that create a more negative outcome.

And one of them is obesity.

And the second one in the report is fear and anxiety-related conditions.

And I found that to be really interesting and really relevant to our conversation,

Just in the understanding that fear can be prevalent and can be something that we as a collective,

I think,

Need to move through and are moving through during this time.

And also just being aware of different factors that may perpetuate those frequencies.

One of the Guide's biggest teaching is fear.

They say the action of fear is to claim more fear.

Now,

I think people want to run with that in the wrong direction.

Fear is also not prudence.

And prudence is being mindful of one's wellbeing and the wellbeing of the one beside you.

So,

For example,

If it's raining,

Take a damn umbrella out.

You know what I mean?

There's nothing,

You don't have to be frightened of the rain,

But you don't have to get wet either.

So,

I truly believe what the Guide say that the action of fear is to claim more fear.

And every choice made in fear contributes to this fear that we've all been living in and drowning in,

Frankly.

I mean,

The Guides I work with said it's kind of like you're born into this world where somebody's already peed in the pool and then you get used to it.

So,

We're supposed to be afraid.

I'm supposed to be frightened.

And I think I'm not over my fear.

I'm a whole lot better than I used to be.

I was one of the most fearful people I've known.

So,

As fear relates to illness,

I don't know.

I mean,

Anger relates to illness.

I know that.

When I read people,

I can feel it.

However,

Anger is generally fear in some other guides.

Righteousness and all that stuff is always the personality structure of the ego.

So,

I mean,

We can reduce everything to this if we wish to.

All of those things somebody might call the seven deadly sins.

It's all fear.

Lack that I'm not going to get what I want,

That you're going to get there before I get there,

All of this stuff.

It's all fear.

And is it the biggest problem we have?

Yeah.

The guides say the only real problem that we have as a species is the denial of the divine.

That's it,

Really,

Denying God or whatever that is for you or denying that one note sung.

And anybody can find a list of things to say,

Well,

This can't be holy and this can't be God,

And you can be right at that level.

But the guides have said again and again and again,

You cannot be the light and hold another in darkness.

It cannot be so.

Who you damn,

What you damn,

Damns you back.

It's really simple.

It's vibrational accord.

And we like to do that.

That's who we are.

So,

And that's fear too.

So,

The book that they just finished dictating is all about moving beyond separation,

Which is the big lie,

They say.

The big lie is that we're separate,

That you and I are separate and that we're separate from our source.

What does that process look like?

Or do you have a sort of intuitive sense of what that might look like in practice to move beyond that as a collective?

Well,

I hear it's going to take a few generations to do it,

But I've heard that we're going to have war until we stop adhering to a level of consciousness where war is a possibility or an option or a choice.

We've had war for so long,

I've been told,

That we expect it and we continue to perpetuate it.

The small self,

They say,

Knows itself entirely through historical precedent.

The true self or the divine as who and what you are,

Who I am,

Who anybody is,

Knows itself beyond that.

So,

It's moving to the level of consciousness where this is no longer the way that we operate.

Now,

It's an enormous undertaking as I understand it,

But I also hear that it's happening.

The times that we're in now,

I understand whole great opportunity for me if they're seen that way.

But you see,

Everything where I've been told it's like a great wave of change where,

And you have a couple of options of how to deal with this.

You want to ride the wave and be carried someplace new,

That's great.

If you want to get crushed by it,

That's not a lot of fun,

But we're all going to be in it anyway.

And like any big wave does,

It sort of dredges the stuff up from the bottom of the surface.

We're looking at all that.

The fear that we were seeing now,

The divisiveness,

The bigotry,

None of this is new.

It's been there.

But guess who gets to see it now?

And the reason is nothing gets healed unless it's seen.

We don't get to quote unquote,

Spiritually bypass.

That's not what this teaching is.

The guides said in a book called the Book of Truth,

Which they dictated maybe seven years ago now,

They say what's happening really now is the equivalent of an archaeological dig.

And everything that's been buried in your backyard or the collective backyard is about to be exhumed and revealed.

And you reveal it so that you can see it and heal it and move beyond it.

Not so that you can blame it and shame it and make it worse and try to bury it again.

It doesn't quite work that way.

In our culture,

They used to burn the witches in the town square.

That never made anybody happy.

Maybe it made them happier for a minute.

But it's a ridiculous premise that it works that way.

It has not worked that way.

We're still fighting each other.

So I think that this is an opportune time.

It's just not convenient,

Once again,

To anything that we thought or expected.

But I sort of knew that was coming because they've been talking about it in these books since 2009 when they first started dictating it.

Yeah,

It is in some ways great to have that preparation.

And also what it brings up for me is just the sense of if you are on a spiritual path,

Which all of us are,

But you're consciously doing the work.

If something comes up,

For example,

That is triggering or a shadow that is meant to be looked at,

There can be a tendency to judge it and say,

Oh,

But I've been doing all this work and I've been on this path.

And I feel like that's kind of,

In a sense,

What's happening for us collectively.

We can look at all of this transformation that's happening and judge it and be in fear of what's happening,

Or we could look at it as a gift in terms of what the potential that it holds.

Yeah,

I mean,

It's a challenging thing to talk about in some ways because on a practical level,

Yes,

People are dying.

Yes,

We're at war.

Yes,

All this stuff is going on.

It's all a mess.

It's not about pretending it's a mess or trying to sort of throw some rose petals on it and say,

Well,

It smells good at least.

I don't think it's like that at all.

But it is about seeing or realizing because the guides would say to realize is to know the inherent divine that must be present in all things.

And where we don't want to see it is where it's most needed,

Which that brings,

They would say,

The action of the divine upon it.

So,

I think it's not only it's a challenging time,

It's a time of opportunity for us.

You know,

My work is this now.

This is what I do.

When I was teaching college,

My spiritual practice was teaching college.

And truthfully,

Your spiritual path is your life.

This is it.

And truthfully,

Some of the most enlightened people I've ever met in my life wouldn't say that they have a spiritual life.

When I first started teaching,

I was like 27 or something.

And I was teaching in New York City public schools and they would send me to run a little arts program.

And in some of the roughest schools in the Bronx,

Black Back on the Bronx was really a war zone.

And the people that were teaching in the schools were frickin' brilliant and operating in such love.

It was so humbling.

And they wouldn't know what a chakra was if you told them,

But they knew.

They knew what they were there for.

They were doing the work of being and caring for others.

So,

I'm just happy to be here at this time.

And I'm happy to be alive and I'm happy to be in this wave of change and hoping that something that I do maybe contributes to somebody getting through it a little better,

Easier.

But I don't know that.

Yeah.

I was reflecting actually with my mom about something that you said in our last conversation and that was about sort of a critical mass in the upper room happening perhaps in four generations of time.

Yeah.

I mean,

They said that in a recent lecture and it was for the newest book and they said it in front of a lot of people.

And I was going,

Oh brother,

They didn't just say this,

But they said that.

It's like this process of awakening,

Collective awakening.

They said it's about four generations.

Now I'm almost 60.

You're probably half my age.

So,

We've got two generations here at least.

So,

A couple of more maybe.

It's not that terribly,

Terribly long.

But yeah,

I think the seed work is being done now.

The work is the work.

The guide said this in their very first book,

Which was called I Am the Word.

They said,

You are the first generation that's bringing about this specific change.

And I don't remember the exact quote.

It's actually,

It's a good one and I'm blanking on it.

But as I said,

It's a tidal wave of change that you're rising into and that this is the beginning of it.

And I think that that is,

This is the beginning of it.

We've been seeing this happening for a bit.

Yeah.

And I've heard you say before that the collective soul is in a quarter in agreement with change at this time,

Which I feel like is a promising thing.

Yeah,

That's what they've said.

I used to get,

Well,

It's up to us if we make it,

If humanity makes it.

And I still think that that's true.

But what the guides have been saying in the last year is that humanity has chosen to,

The collective of humanity has chosen to move to a new level of being,

To evolve.

And that's what I understand is happening now.

I have these quirky abilities.

I don't know.

I didn't know they were coming.

I didn't expect them.

I don't.

And I don't think finally that I'm all that special.

And a lot of the work that I do when I work with other people is what other,

You might call telepathic.

I can step into your mother.

I can probably hear her.

Sometimes I might start to look like her.

It's really interesting.

And I've been filmed doing this with people that I've never seen.

And it can be confirmed.

But I just think what that means is it's possible.

We have this capacity to be communicating in ways that we didn't think we were.

And I think as there are more of us that are sort of giving this permission,

This can be so,

It's available.

We align to it because these things are part of who we are.

And this is part of an experience of change.

But I do hear that the species itself is evolving,

Which is interesting.

I'm not a scientist.

I've flunked all that stuff in school.

I've been no interest.

But that's the case,

So be it.

I'm grateful for it.

Yeah.

In what sense do they know that the evolution is taking place?

Well,

I think what's happening is that the level of density that we've been operating in,

The collective field is changing.

So that we're having to align in a higher way,

Which means that we're having to release the stuff that stood in the way of our true expression,

Which is primarily fear.

So the guides say in the upper room,

Which is where they teach from and where they invite us to be,

And teaches how to maintain,

They say there's no fear at that level of vibration.

It doesn't exist there,

But we're so used to it that we continue to sort of operate through it.

And that this is actually what's happening now.

So it's a much larger shift in the identity of the self at a collective level.

We've been operating,

I got to say,

We're terribly selfish in this country,

Certainly,

But I think it's all me.

And it's not.

Finally,

It's not.

And finally,

It can't be.

And I understand that if we continue on the trajectory we've been on,

We're not going to make it necessarily.

I mean,

The guides have said,

You know,

We build bombs to keep ourselves safe,

Which they say is about the most ridiculous thing they've ever heard.

Those are meant to go off.

And one day these things will,

Which is the horror that none of us really want to acknowledge.

And hopefully we'll move to a place where that's not even an option.

And I imagine when you are giving these teachings,

And I know that you have a lot of workshops that you offer,

And people are really students of the guides.

And I think that it's the consistency that is important.

I don't know if they teach on that.

I've just noticed that in my own journey,

There is a vast solution that happens or where we are feeling lifted or feeling free from fear.

And to have that sort of consistent experience,

I feel like is intentional.

Well,

They're teaching us to have a new foundation in what they call the upper room.

I mean,

The upper room is not a place,

It's a level of consciousness and vibration.

And they're teaching it as if it can be sustained and that we can re-know ourselves there.

And I'm beginning to have that experience,

Which is kind of amazing to me.

But all I have to do is look at myself a year ago or two years ago or three,

And I see the difference.

And I'm grateful for that.

And I'm certainly I'm not saying that I've arrived or that I'm enlightened because I'm not.

I'm another guy on the road.

But I don't even recall what the question was.

Can this be sustained?

What was the question again,

Please?

Just the intentional practice.

There aren't attunements in the book,

And I'm assuming that those are really helpful.

Yeah,

The attunements are there.

The guides say we're all radios and we're always in broadcast.

Our broadcast is our consciousness.

So we've been playing these stations that we've grown up with and the guides say,

Well,

There are higher stations to play,

But you haven't known the coordinates.

And so really what the attunements are are helping us to turn the radios that we are to play a higher stage.

And I mean,

You think about your own cable options.

There's a lot of things you can be playing.

Some of it's pretty low stuff,

But the hot stuff is there and they say we and it's been there.

We just have to align to it.

So it's supporting us in that for a lot of people,

The attunements are quite physical.

You can feel the total vibration of them.

When I do them in groups,

When we were doing live events,

The whole room would just go,

Would light up.

I mean,

It would just be so strong.

But the same is true in the online workshops.

People write it and they talk about their experiences.

So yeah,

I mean,

Is it a practice?

I don't know that I would call it a practice.

The challenge with practices is they can become entrenched and they can become traps.

And the guides sort of don't say that.

They don't tell people not to eat meat.

They do say,

Are you willing to kill it and take response to the balcony for it?

They're not telling us to go out and kill a deer,

But they are saying you want to eat meat,

But you don't want to think about what you're doing.

And as long as you know what you're doing.

The guides used to say in their workshops once in a while.

So you have all these people there for a weekend or a five-day event.

And the guides might say sometimes at the end,

You don't have to go home after this.

You think you do,

But you don't.

You're choosing to go home.

And I would go,

Yeah,

Right.

I was doing a workshop in Costa Rica last March when New York City went on lockdown and I couldn't go home.

And I never did.

I never went home.

It's a year and a half later.

I never went home.

It's the craziest thing that's ever happened to me in my life.

And I'm quite happy about it,

But I'm the last person you would think would never go home.

I'm the guy that if I like a restaurant on the corner,

I'll eat there every night for the rest of my life.

I'm not a great fan of change.

Here I am.

Now I live like I'm in Hawaii.

Who the hell knew this was going to happen?

I'm so grateful,

But it comes from sort of not having a practice and not saying it's supposed to be a certain way.

Yeah.

I'm curious if other sort of big shifts opened up for you along with that change.

Everything changed.

I have to say it.

Everything changed and is changing.

It's not done.

I'm having a very different experience of life and of being now than I've had.

And I'm not running around saying to source,

Give me what I want.

I mean,

There are things that I wish would show up already for real.

I say,

I want a relationship.

I want to lose the way.

There are things that I want,

But for the most part,

I'm having this experience of being in reception and allowance and letting the miracles sort of unfold.

And it's not that I don't show up and do my part because that's what I've got a body for.

And I have work and I'm responsible for paying my mortgage and taking care of my body and the dog and all these things.

But my experience of being is completely different than I live most days in gratitude now.

And I'm a famous complainer.

I mean,

Maybe that's an arrogant thing to say,

But I'm a kvetch,

Curmudgeon,

Was the word I used to use.

And I mean,

Some of that is attitude and some of that is just protection.

I'm somebody that required a lot of protection.

I'm super sensitive.

I mean,

I can step into somebody just by hearing their name and become them and I can often feel their pain.

And it's not,

I mean,

It's my responsibility to take care of all this stuff and I do my best,

But yeah,

I'm just so happy these days.

We'll see,

Maybe it doesn't last,

But it's just today.

That's what we got.

So,

So be it.

Yeah.

It's so beautiful and such a beautiful segue into something that I wanted to ask you about,

Which is about manifestation and about how the guides are teaching about manifestation differently.

I mean,

They talk about it in different ways and different books,

They address it.

And I read for people a few times a week,

I'll still see clients on Zoom and stuff,

But sometimes I'll see,

I mean,

There's different metaphors I get about manifestation when I read for people that I enjoy.

And it's maybe because I was in the road for so long that I was always in restaurants.

So there's a lot of restaurant imagery and there are some people that stand at the hostess station or the host station waiting to be seated and nobody ever comes and they just,

And they don't realize that they're going to go sit down and take a table.

And the guides say,

We're always ordering off of the menu of what we expect to see in our lives.

And that's usually very limited by our experience and what we think we're allowed,

What we think we're entitled to have.

And so,

You know,

What the guides have said about manifestation is,

Well,

The first thing to know is that something exists.

It exists.

If you don't believe it exists,

It can't be a possibility to claim.

So possibility is the first real step.

And then you've got to claim it,

Saying that you are worthy of it.

If you go to the supermarket with five bucks in your pocket,

You're not going to come out with much.

And so we're always claiming things based on what we feel we can hold or have.

So then we've got to claim it and we're going to take it,

Deservably.

That's my understanding of this.

But what the guides are really teaching now is really remarkably different than that.

It's still true.

But when you begin to move to this place of understanding of source and God or whatever you want to call God as source,

And that God perhaps knows what we need before we ask,

Then we move to a place of just reception and living in the overflow.

It's all trusting.

And that's becoming more and more of my experience now.

And I'm really surprised because it wasn't.

I've not been a happy camper for large portions of my life.

And I see now how I was making that so,

One that I don't have to.

So when they teach about manifestation,

God is all things and God is the source.

It's so basic.

But they talk about it in the books.

I mean,

There's techniques for it if you want it.

They talk about your heart's desire,

But your heart's desire is the God within.

And for the most part,

What people think they want when they're trying to manifest is what they think they're supposed to have or supposed to want.

And then this is this list that we've taken from a magazine of what it means to be happy or successful.

The guides used to say there's nothing wrong with a house on the hill.

Somebody gets to live there.

But why do you want it?

And if you want it so that you can be the envy of your neighbors,

You're creating in fear.

And you're going to have to deal with that because the action of fear is to claim more fear.

And I believe that's quite true.

Yeah.

Something that I feel is really beautiful is for each of us to be the fullest expression of ourselves,

Like for all of our own innate gifts to come forward.

And I feel like that's a simple desire to want to manifest.

And I think that that's it's one of the I feel like the teachings of the kingdom of the upper room is that everybody has the ability to really embody the fullest expression of themselves.

Absolutely.

That's what we're here for.

The guides say,

I know who I am in truth,

Identity.

I know what I am in truth,

Manifestation.

I know how I serve in truth,

Which is expression.

And the guides have said how one serves is how one is most fully expressed as their true self.

That's it.

It's an easy one.

Yeah.

Have the guides shared anything about sort of a change in this linear period of time of people leaving professions or kind of starting to do something that feels more aligned with their own innate gifts?

No,

I mean,

I think what many people have had in this last year plus is an opportunity to question the initial motives of why we did what we did and to seek out what makes them happy.

I mean,

To be honest with you,

I think we don't need many more life coaches right now.

It seems like everybody's doing it and we don't necessarily need more Reiki masters and more yoga studios.

Everybody's doing that.

And it's great that those things are all there.

Don't get me wrong.

But the idea that when one is living a spiritual life,

One needs to go into spiritual commerce doesn't feel true to me.

It's how we show up for whatever we're doing in our lives and doing that from our heart that I think makes the real contribution to the whole,

Whatever that may be.

And we live in a culture that makes one thing higher than the next.

And that's just not true either.

Yeah.

And I guess I'm just commenting on that because I've just noticed that there are so many job vacancies at this point in time.

And it just seems like there is a reorganization and wondering if that kind of.

There's lots of reasons people aren't working right now and some of them are financial.

And I do think that this is opportunity,

But I also think that we're in a time of great uncertainty when I went to college,

Which was I think I graduated high school in like what,

79 or something.

You basically thought you were going to get a job when you got out of college.

And that's not necessarily the case right now.

And I was,

When I paid off my student loans,

When I was probably 50,

It took me a long time to pay those things off and I didn't have any financial freedom in my life until I did.

Would I do that again?

I don't know,

Truthfully,

But I did it.

And I think it's a different world and different choices need to be made.

And I don't think that I'm an old 12-stepper and I'm a belief in being self-supporting.

And I learned that the hard way.

When I got sober,

When I was in my mid-20s,

I was the poorest person I knew for about four years.

And I mean,

Like getting a pair of sneakers was a huge,

Huge event at that time in my life.

And I was a year out of Yale.

It was the last thing I expected to happen to me,

But it did.

And so I learned through the bumps in the road.

And what a lot of the bumps in the road do is dislodge baggage.

It helps us get rid of the stuff that we don't need to take on the journey.

And I'm grateful for all of that.

But I went through some of my repositioning early.

I left a career in academia maybe six years ago now that I'd had for 25 years and loved,

Truthfully,

To do this work.

But it was time.

And I knew that.

But for me to let go of financial security after what I'd been through as a kid,

That was a tough one.

Like,

Oh my God,

I have to have benefits when I do.

But I get it myself now.

That's the difference.

Yeah.

Do the guys have anything to share about this next five to 10 years?

No.

I mean,

I know.

I'm not going to go there.

I mean,

They talk in generalities.

I heard,

I was probably two and a half years ago,

I don't know where it was two years ago,

I was channeling in New York and it was a live stream.

And they talked about the amount of change that was going to be coming,

That everything was going to be turned upside down.

And I supposedly I sent it in an interview to somebody.

I mean,

Somebody kept pushing,

What are the changes?

What are the changes?

And I said,

I'm sorry,

I'm not going to talk about it.

And they were being so strident that the guides came through and told them.

And I've never heard,

I want to hear the clip of this someday because it was pretty much a good prediction from what I've been told.

But I remember when I heard about the amount of change,

I just said to my guides,

Please,

God,

Don't let me be in Manhattan when it happens.

Because I went through 9-11 here.

I went through the AIDS epidemic here.

I don't want another disaster in New York.

Just let me be someplace pretty.

And that's what happens.

I'm still grateful that that one was,

That I did ask for that one and it got heard.

Anyway,

Five years,

I don't know.

I think more change.

I don't think it's going to let up,

But I think we have to reframe how we see it.

Yes.

Yeah.

I totally agree.

And I think is the preparation that we all can do and be a part of and the attunements can be so helpful to see and experience that change in a different way.

I hope so.

Yeah.

Paul,

Can you share with our listeners where they can find you and your books and all your amazing workshops?

Sure.

My website has all the information.

It's paulselig.

Com.

And the books are available in all the major bookstores and online,

Amazon,

Indiebound,

Barnes & Noble.

You can find them anywhere.

And the audio books and the Kindles and all that stuff.

And the workshops I do,

I'm supposedly going to be traveling again come October.

You'll be in Austin,

Right?

For the.

.

.

Yep.

Austin's on the list.

And I do an online intensive once a month,

Five-day intensive.

And most every Wednesday night,

I'm channeling as well on all of that information on the web.

Awesome.

One last question for you.

I know that you mentioned a memoir that might be in the works in the future.

Anything else that's on the horizon for you personally that you're excited about?

Lots of everything I'm excited about a lot right now.

The memoir is a little daunting because I haven't done my own writing since the Channel book started coming.

And we'll see if I can still do that because there's no writing involved with the books.

They're all spoken.

So,

Yeah,

I'm just curious.

I'm curious.

Yeah.

Oh,

Well,

I'm excited.

And the next book,

Does that have a title yet?

It's called Resurrection.

Well,

Paul,

Thank you so much.

It's always a pleasure to connect with you.

Thank you for having me.

I appreciate it.

Thank you so much for joining me on The Soul Collective.

It is my deepest pleasure and most divine honor to co-create with all of you.

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