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Delicious Tastes Hint At What Full Presence Feels Like

by Premasudha Janet Hobbs

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Premasudha teaches, reassures, and gives us a comprehensive overview of the spiritual journey, all in one satsang. She draws attention to the story of a man who was chased off a cliff by a tiger, grabbed hold of a vine, and ate a strawberry. Although in a perilous situation, the taste of the strawberry restores him to being present and feeling joy in existence. Who can fail to feel hopeful as Premasudha describes how the journey into a whole new perspective navigates black holes in physics and in our own hearts? Premasudha reminds us that the love power in our hearts is far more powerful than our thoughts or ego, and that evolution, while gradual, shows results over time.

Spiritual JourneyPresenceJoyHopeLoveEvolutionPersonal ResponsibilityEmotional HealingBody Mind ConnectionAcceptanceSurrenderSelf CompassionDivine ConnectionGuilt TransformationSpiritual AwakeningHeart Centered LivingComplex HealingSpiritual PracticesInner Strength

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It's for you to take that step back inside yourselves.

Prama Sutta can't do this for you.

No teacher can do it for you.

A teacher can be like a good mother,

Like a good parent.

And support the child developing the self-confidence to face life,

But it's the child who does it.

Now this is your point of power,

This stepping back more deeply into your heart,

Stepping back from your experience,

Stepping back from all the voices in your head.

You're the creator.

You know,

In Prama Sutta's life,

Because of the way it went over and over,

I was faced with that I had no one to blame.

No one else to blame.

We have no one else to blame,

You guys.

There's no one else to blame.

What you're faced with is your life's work,

Which is to basically untangle the creator's energy within you,

To untangle the knots coming from this life and other lives,

These knots that interrupt our perception.

And it's not easy work.

Prama Sutta,

I so understand this.

It can be the hardest thing of all to experience how confused,

Angry,

Scared,

Lost one feels.

But if the intensity of that emotion turns you back to the creator,

To the Amma inside,

Then that's good use of this material.

I'm going to scroll back to something I mentioned yesterday,

Which,

Again,

Didn't record.

I got a very clear email from a very brave seeker,

Who I'd spoke with or emailed communication weeks ago,

And she'd been complaining about body pain.

I was pointing out the meaning of the various parts of the body to help her understand the complexes that were coming up to be cleared.

And it was obviously kind of a foreign way of looking at things,

But she was open.

She sent me an email saying that for two weeks,

The left-hand side of her body had been seizing up and making it difficult to sleep,

But that she didn't rush off to the chiropractor.

She thought about what Prama Sutta had said about the body reflecting our complexes and showing us what our complexes are by the location of the pain on the body.

And so,

For two weeks,

She struggled,

So that's a fair amount of time to be sleepless.

And one night,

All the pain disappeared,

And she had the best sleep that she'd had in months.

So,

Prama Sutta would say that she shifted into an acceptance of her true feminine nature,

Which because she's female,

That includes her soul energy.

And it also would have been a clearing of other lives,

As well as the conditioning of this life.

Now,

What this took was her willingness to just be with the discomfiture without running to fix.

Sometimes going to a chiropractor is the best thing,

But sometimes,

If we're fixing something and missing the big lesson of its presence in our life,

That can slow us down.

Prama Sutta's experience over and over was that Prama Sutta's body recalibrated on its own through prayer and meditation,

Talking to Amma,

Talking to the Creator.

Prama Sutta had all the time in the world because I didn't work formally.

So there's an understanding that it's more complicated for others.

But there was a level that,

You see,

Because I didn't work formally,

I had no one else to blame,

Too.

I had no husband,

No one to blame.

So it was easier to go to the heart of these things.

But if you're working and you have a partner,

If you just focus that you want to go to the heart of things,

You will be brought to that.

Any of us can decode ourselves,

You guys,

Any of us.

It's not a matter of will,

Of personal will,

It's a matter of deep intent.

Now,

Remember some months ago,

I talked about the will,

You can pray for the will to will thy will.

I mean,

This is,

You guys,

This is the bottom line,

That the more sincerely you will to will Amma's will,

The Creator's will,

The more you'll unite with the Creator Amma within you.

You guys,

One of the problems that comes up for you a lot is around guilt.

I just want to clarify that guilt is sorrow.

If you go down and feel that sorrow of feeling separate from the divine,

The guilt will dissolve.

If you have the courage to feel that level of sorrow,

Your whole ego will dissolve over time.

It's so simple in a way,

And yet,

Pramasutra so understands the challenges of doing this and understanding that it takes time.

We can only do it at the level that our psyche can handle it.

Pramasutra feels this very,

Very deep sadness even talking to you.

Partly it's because,

You know,

We've said these things very many times,

And it is indeed the way of the journey that we,

You know,

It does help to hear it a million times.

But there's a level where the person has to have the willingness to let it sink in.

And you know,

There's the understanding that we're not even in control of our willingness in a way.

It's depending on,

You know,

How much material from other lives we have to deal with,

What happened to us this life.

All these things will affect our willingness.

But they never make it impossible to just decide to stand up and say,

I am evolving.

I am going to complete my lifetimes on the earth plane beginning now,

And I'll take what comes.

And if you do that,

You will start to complete.

I promise you.

It's how it works.

And you can say,

I want it at the pace that I can handle,

And all the support I need.

But you are free to be that directive with the universe,

Because you're the creator.

And always ask that it's as gentle as possible,

And that you have all the support you need.

There's nothing stopping us,

You guys.

This is what Prama Sutta found over and over and over.

There's nothing stopping us.

We feel that we,

You know,

That we're stuck,

That we keep banging our heads against the same wall,

That we're surrounded by people who don't get us,

Don't get it.

But there's nothing stopping us at all.

That's the big joke,

You know.

It's like when the nightmare gets horrible enough,

We tend to wake up.

You know,

Our system can't deal with the content of the nightmare.

So we wake up and go,

Wow,

That was a horrible dream.

I'm glad I woke up.

But we're in the nightmare now.

You can wake up.

Some of you think you've woken up,

But actually you're circulating in the nightmare.

And,

You know,

The Zen masters would call,

Or the Eastern sages would call nirvana,

Which is our highest,

Most exquisite experience.

They would compare it to our true nature.

They call it a daytime nightmare.

So if you think of having a nightmare in the daytime,

It's easier to come back to center.

You wake up like at three o'clock in the afternoon,

You've had this nightmare,

But it's like broad daylight.

So it dissolves very quickly.

So our nirvana is like a daytime nightmare to the experience of our true natures.

Namaste feels that guilt is the number one problem obstructing the group.

Unearned guilt.

Guilt is just sorrow underneath.

When you really wake up,

You see that you're not your conditioned personality.

So actually you're not responsible.

Not that you're not responsible for the actions.

It's like somebody else did them.

And the effect of the action in a negative way has been neutralized.

Do you get that?

Number one,

It feels as if somebody else did the action.

Number two,

The negative effect that was caused has been neutralized in the higher understanding.

It really is off your shoulders,

You guys.

You know,

Even if karma comes back to a person,

You can be so lodged in your true nature that you just quietly observe the karma and don't feel pain particularly.

It's just watching a set of events,

Really,

Even if one is personally involved.

It is hard to communicate to you the level of dispassion that develops as you awaken.

And it's not heartless.

It's the opposite.

It's just a deep understanding that this is just dreamland and has no enduring reality.

And in that understanding comes the great kind of desire to help other struggling human beings to assist their understanding,

To assist them to reduce their pain and ignorance.

It's an overwhelming desire.

You know,

Really,

It's just God taking care of God,

God loving God.

And even if what I say doesn't make sense,

The cells of your body that are coming from the divine,

That are coming from unconditional love,

Will be strengthened just hearing it.

I mean,

If you allow this,

You could actually prevent that from happening through the use of your minds,

You guys.

I remember a channel,

This is way,

Way back in the old days,

This channel telling me that I could obstruct myself just through the thought that it was possible to obstruct myself,

You know,

Just through the thought that my head could actually interfere with my progress,

Could result in my head interfering with my progress.

Meaning,

It was the thought,

Was the misunderstanding that the ego was stronger than the soul,

But if that was held strongly,

Then that would prevail.

Because you guys are the creator,

So if you're holding an idea like that,

That your ego could seriously obstruct your soul,

It will happen.

This is why,

You know,

Pramasutra would keep going to self-compassion.

That was my safety place.

So when I was so stuck in thinking,

You know,

That my head was stronger than my soul or that I could really interfere with my progress,

I would go to self-compassion,

Compassion for this poor,

Deluded human being who cannot evolve.

And then what would happen is the obstruction would dissolve over time.

Pramasutra gradually stopped believing that her head could really interfere with her journey.

You know,

It's as simple as the dear seeker who is brave enough to just wait two weeks without going to a chiropractor to see what happened.

And her body made the shift.

Her psyche made the shift.

It was not done by her head.

Her head witnessed that all the pain had gone away and she had the best sleep that she'd had in months,

Which we see.

You guys,

That was a surrender in action.

That's what surrender looks like.

It's kind of a diffuse process.

It's not like a box process,

It's diffuse.

It's hard to point to.

You might have the experience of a surrender,

Like a moment in time where you eat the strawberry,

Where you're suddenly out of the box of your perception.

And you come back to the experience of your body,

Your being present.

You're sort of right out of the box.

You can have a short experience like that,

But often a surrender just happens gradually over time.

You just notice that you're freer.

You notice that you no longer think in such rigid ways.

You notice that it's easier for you to feel softer to your neighbor who makes a lot of noise.

Sometimes.

The biggest trap and the thing that Primasut is getting increasingly impatient with is when people lodge in their ego and they try to fix.

And sometimes they'll give me bulletins about their latest efforts trying to fix.

And they're wanting like praise for being a good boy or girl.

It's all very understandable.

It's not even wrong,

You guys,

None of this stuff is wrong.

Primasut is just speaking from feeling great sorrow today.

So I'm really highlighting the confusion that Primasut sees over and over.

And again,

It's not wrong,

You guys.

It's like you can't be criticized.

I mean,

The fact that you turn up for satsangs,

The fact you do spiritual practices,

The fact that your heart set on bringing more love into this world is fantastic.

You can't be criticized.

I'm just wanting to free you,

Like cut some chains.

You know,

We're at this highly intellectual time where we're lodged in our heads and we're trying to figure things out.

And increasingly around the world,

It's just showing that the cost of this is becoming too high.

So I've spoken of this before,

But I'm going to speak of it again.

Remember I talked about the birth of Krishna,

That the king at the time had done what Herod had done in the Christian tradition,

Which was to kill all the boy babies.

I think with Krishna's time,

It was just to kill all the new babies.

But and so this mom,

Krishna's mom,

Was pregnant,

Was put in jail,

And the baby was born.

And as the baby was born,

What happened was the guard fell asleep and the cell,

You know,

The bars of the cell,

The door opened.

And seemingly magically.

Okay,

So we know about Amma and the experience of her devotees.

If you read one of those books of what people have experienced over and over again,

There are miracles like this,

Where it looked like something was just insolvable.

Like a disease or a situation,

And the situation suddenly altered through Amma's input,

Energetic input,

Through her prayers.

Even when they talked about when Amma's work was first brought to the US,

There was a van that was on its last legs.

And indeed,

It made it all the way across the US and just died at the very last stop.

It's like,

Really,

It was impossible.

But that's the way it happened.

Okay,

You guys,

I really want to spell this out.

So many of you are caught behind the bars of a gate,

Of a door that can be opened,

That gets opened as you come into your heart.

It gets opened as you,

Like,

Eat the strawberry,

In a way.

Even though in that situation,

You know,

He's still on the cliff.

But what will happen in your life is the jail gate opens,

And the whole situation alters,

And you're totally safe.

Okay,

This is the power of the heart to transcend the mind.

When we lodge in the heart,

We transcend our minds.

Now,

Prama Sutta has had a great deal of flaws.

But one of the things,

It's like,

This is what Prama Sutta found over and over.

The power of Prama Sutta's heart opened jail gates.

It's like,

That moment where Prama Sutta decided that she wasn't going to believe the doctors,

That I was going to hold the space for something else to happen so my son could live.

That was an opening of the jail gate.

It was the power of the heart.

It wasn't even a logical decision.

It was just,

Prama Sutta couldn't do anything else except side with the life of her baby.

It was a decision of the heart that went beyond the mind,

Went beyond the head,

And it totally altered the situation.

So,

Within two weeks,

Somebody had put me in touch with Olga Wuerl.

She started praying,

And within a month,

John's white cell blood count started to fall.

So,

The thing is,

You see,

You can't try to open the jail door.

What you can do is turn inside to your heart.

Listen to your heart.

Come from the heart.

And that opens the jail door.

It takes a great deal of courage,

But in a way,

When you've got nothing to lose,

Like with Prama Sutta,

I had nothing to lose.

And the brilliance of the way the challenge was woven in,

You see,

It happened when John was just tiny,

Before a year.

So,

He was still nursing.

We were still bonded.

It was like my soul had set up circumstances where it would be very hard for me to do anything else but what I did.

The power of the biological connection between the mother and the child,

The way it's set up,

Is for a very close bonding.

So,

That was a perfect situation for my soul to set up a challenge like that,

Because it would almost ensure that I would make it through that initial door into truth.

And if I made it through that door and had the experience and proof of it,

Then it would make it easier for me to go through other doors,

Which is what happened.

And Prama Sutta's job is to transmit this to you.

So,

Maybe you don't have to have such a serious or such a difficult challenge,

But maybe you can get the strength from it,

Get the reassurance,

Get the courage from it,

To try it in your own life,

To put it into practice in your own lives.

See,

There's this very human tendency to look at teachers and go,

Well,

They could do it,

But I can't.

And that's not true.

Any of us can do this.

Any of us can decide to come from the heart.

If you look around at,

You know,

What's going on in the outside world,

There's less and less reason to stay imprisoned in false ideas.

You know,

The reason I talk about the Creator a lot,

And don't mention,

You know,

Don't say Amma,

Is because some of us think of Amma as her body.

We forget she is the Creator.

Our egos are attached to her body.

So,

If I talk,

Say Amma,

Amma,

Amma,

Over and over,

Well,

There's concern that the understanding would be more limited than if I remind you that of the Creator,

That Amma is the Creator.

It's not just her body.

You guys are the Creator.

That's why if you focus on moving into truth,

On wishing to love like,

You know,

Like love like nobody's watching,

Right?

To,

You know,

Love like dancing like nobody's watching,

Like willing to love to the level that's maybe taboo in our culture,

Then that will happen.

And,

You know,

You guys,

You're so dear.

You know,

There's the way of wisdom,

The way of devotion,

And the,

You know,

The karma yogi.

There are three ways to move into truth.

The way of wisdom involves wanting to express the divine nature in every aspect of your life.

And it requires self-awareness to sort of decode yourselves,

Understand and heal your complexes so that the light of the Creator shines through you.

It's the understanding that you're basically a dream figure created by the Creator.

The way of devotion,

The Creator is seen as other than us.

So,

We act in ways and we,

That are expressed,

Like,

We're devoted,

We express devotion to something other than ourselves.

Now,

What happens as you go further,

The way of wisdom unites with the devotion.

A person walking the way of wisdom gets more and more devoted over time.

And a person who's walking the wisdom way,

The way of devotion,

Becomes more and more aware over time.

Self-aware,

Aware of how the Creator works.

The two unite.

And the way of the karma yogi is the person who goes to work and does it for God,

And,

You know,

Earns money,

But doesn't,

Isn't attached to the money.

So,

Some of you are trying to become spiritual seekers without doing any of those things.

It's true,

You guys.

Some of you are just wanting to feel better.

You know,

The great thing about truth is it frees you.

It might be hard to see,

You know,

Where you've been stuck in your ego or stuck in delusion,

But it will free you.

You can correct and move on.

So,

Kind of sort of seeing kind of what was a bit of a black hole beginning to fill up with golden light.

You know,

In fact,

When we,

I mean,

Premasuddha's experience that we have black holes in our heart,

You know,

Black holes created by our complexes.

And in physics,

If you go into a black hole,

You come out in a whole new place,

A whole new place in the universe.

And Premasuddha's experience is when we go right into the black hole of our heart,

We come out with a totally new perspective,

A totally healed perspective,

United,

Healed,

Full of grace.

So,

What Premasuddha is seeing is like a black hole being healed,

Basically.

So,

Even if this is within you,

It is an alteration in the blueprint that won't surface for even two years.

Or maybe you're feeling it more directly,

You're feeling some expansion of your heart.

Or maybe you're just relaxing.

But just open the door that what Premasuddha is seeing is reflecting your progress.

Because Premasuddha would say it is.

This is reflecting the group.

This will be happening on some level of everybody in the group.

Right,

Good,

Good,

Good,

Good.

And there's also a feeling about being more present.

See,

You're safer than you realize.

When you realize that,

When you realize how safe you are,

You realize that it's safe to become fully present.

That's it.

That's it.

Like,

Really,

It's a wonder that we are doing this.

That we're gathered together to speak like this,

To be in the energy.

It's a wonder.

Yeah,

Right.

It's good.

Yeah,

I'm getting like,

Some of you are feeling like it's miraculous,

Right?

Right.

Right.

Believe me,

Premasuddha's walk has been very,

Now for something completely different from any of her previous lifetimes or the conditioning of this one.

It's very open-ended at this time for how much progress we can make.

There's really nothing stopping you apart from your thoughts,

What you think about yourself and life.

You could play with that.

You can play and experiment.

Anything that keeps your mind up,

Focused on the divine.

It's priceless,

You guys.

The more time you spend in meditation,

Reading inspiring books,

Having inspiring conversations with people,

Attending satsangs,

The more time you spend,

The more you soak your unconscious with all its complexes coming from other lives.

You soak it in divine energy and the dirt falls away.

And,

You know,

Notice your frailties,

But don't,

You know,

Do your best with them,

But don't crucify yourself for frailties,

Please.

Remember,

Guilt is sorrow.

Go to the sorrow underneath the guilt.

Feel that.

Feel the sorrow of being sad.

Separate from the divine,

You will start to open to the divine.

I'm getting this picture of a whole bunch of people in a labyrinth,

And everybody's wearing blindfolds,

And Premasutha's going,

Go this way,

This way,

Turn here,

Turn here,

Go here,

To get out of the labyrinth.

So,

Premasutha's just going to imagine the whole labyrinth dissolving.

In just light.

And imagining all the blindfolds,

You're taking them off,

And you're just in light.

Yeah.

Right.

You see,

That's how easy it is,

You guys.

You just take that one step to imagine light coming in.

That opens the jail door.

I'm going to say it again.

Imagining light coming in opens the jail door.

If you imagine light coming in,

Over and over,

You will then have an experience of the resistance coming up to be cleared.

So,

Sometimes what happens is we get lost in the resistance,

And we stop imagining light coming in.

And we go into despair,

We give up,

We walk around in confusion for six months.

So,

Premasutha says,

No matter what,

You just keep imagining the light coming in.

And what will happen is,

You know,

The experience of the resistance will dissolve.

Resistance dissolves in the light,

You guys.

It's not real.

The light's real.

Only the light is real.

And you know,

Within you,

You'll find that there's something within you that can never give up.

It just never gives up.

Yeah.

And it never will give up.

Because it knows that the whole thing is just an illusion.

How can it give up?

And it will keep knocking on the door of your head going,

Your heart will keep knocking on the door of your head saying,

Hey,

Sweetie,

Wake up.

It's not so serious.

Just focus on the light.

Stop berating yourself and others.

Just think about the creator.

That's it,

You guys.

Yeah,

You're so sweet.

Yeah,

That's the secret.

Yeah.

So,

Questions or observations?

Questions?

Dear ones,

You're so precious.

So precious.

Yeah.

Oh,

You guys,

You're just so precious.

Again,

I'm feeling this sorrow.

Like,

Please,

Please,

Please feel your preciousness.

Yeah.

Never give up on yourselves,

You guys.

We can't,

Anyway.

You can't give up.

Because,

Like,

You're just going to be where you are.

And then you just,

You can't give up.

It's like you're,

Where do you go if you give up,

Right?

I mean,

This is what Pramasutha,

You know,

When she came to tough times,

I'd be like,

Well,

Where do I go if I step off the journey?

Like,

There's nowhere to go.

Right.

And really,

You guys,

It's such a meaningful way to live.

Yeah,

Superman,

Right?

Right.

Superman.

Susan's got Superman.

Right.

Our hearts,

Our hearts are Superman.

Superwoman.

What do you think's given Pramasutha the juice to keep,

You know,

To keep doing this?

It's the power of the heart.

And you guys are very hearted.

You're a very hearted group.

Strong hearts.

Strong,

Invincible hearts.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

Right.

You know,

Your hearts are eternal.

They win.

They win.

They win over time.

Last call for comments or questions.

I'm going to surround your whole days for the whole rest of today,

You guys.

I'm going to surrounding you with this gold that I saw healing this black hole.

I'm surrounding you with gold for the whole,

For the whole day.

The whole next 24 hours,

Particularly.

Okay.

Love wins,

You guys.

Yeah.

Blessings.

Blessings.

Blessings.

Thank you,

Guys.

Thank you.

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Premasudha Janet HobbsNorth Vancouver, BC, Canada

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