Hello spiritual seekers!
Welcome to another episode of the Unraveling Shaltazar podcast featuring me,
Mark Lane,
Spiritual seeker,
Writer and Shaltazar enthusiast,
Along with the mouthpiece of Shaltazar,
Jeffrey Eisen,
My good friend and collaborator.
For those of you who may be unfamiliar,
Jeffrey is a Toronto based spiritual life coach,
Teacher and channeler of a spiritual entity who goes by the name Shaltazar.
With the help and support of Shaltazar's cosmic wisdom,
It is Jeffrey's mission to assist in shifting the consciousness of our planet.
It is my pleasure to assist Jeffrey in making this marvelous wisdom available to the largest possible audience and to unravel it in an understandable and comprehensible way.
Hello Jeffrey,
How are you today?
I'm doing well Mark and how are you?
I'm well,
I'm well,
Thank you.
Yeah,
Always always look forward to our Tuesday conversations in Unraveling Shaltazar and see what unfolds.
And of course just to share with the listeners,
You and I usually have a bit of a preamble before we start recording and those are always lots of fun and I enjoyed spending some time with you doing that and now we're ready to share the Unraveling Shaltazar discussion with a broader audience.
Right,
Right,
Yeah,
Looking forward to it.
So,
You know,
We just talked about this,
It seems like sometimes our topics run according to a theme and the message that I picked for today is called Let Spirit Lead the Way and it seemed,
It actually kind of follows on our conversation from last week and it also seems to kind of follow a theme of the season.
I mean we're just before just before the Easter weekend and this message kind of has a theme of death and rebirth that kind of goes,
Winds through it,
So that seems kind of appropriate to the energy of the time.
Yeah,
And I just want to reiterate that that theme that appears is not one that is chosen by us,
It's not a left-brain kind of thing,
It's not what's the theme of the month,
It's interesting,
You know,
A lot of marketing gurus will tell you that,
You know,
Pick a theme for the month and follow it and,
You know,
We've made reference to this many times before on this that being old guys remembering things is sometimes a little bit of a challenge.
So I just want listeners to realize that when we are coming up with a theme it is simply a coincidental,
It is simply allowing spirit to lead the way that we don't sit down and pick messages or have discussions based on that theme,
We just allow the theme to pick us and we are just the willing participants.
Right,
Right,
Yeah,
I mean peek behind the curtain,
I mean the way this works is I'll get up in the morning and I'll just thumb through some shelters or messages and it might be online,
It might be in my notebook and one will just kind of fall in my lap or jump out at me and I'll start looking at it and then,
You know,
That's what happened with this one,
I actually had it printed out and I started reading it and I was like,
Oh that's kind of neat and then it just turned out to be kind of connected to the theme from our last conversation.
Well,
And to sort of peek behind the curtain on my side and when I get your choice and it's always the day that we do it,
You know,
My first reaction is trying to figure out based on the title and my mind goes to,
Oh,
You know,
You know,
I don't know if that's what I really want to hear,
Gee,
I wonder why he chose that one and then when I park my ego and later in the morning listen to it,
It's like,
Wow,
That's amazing that he picked that one.
So,
There's something at play here that is beyond just you and I and so every week when you pick one it's like it's just a perfect one for my Tuesday and what I needed to hear.
So,
Just to let listeners know that there is a little bit of magic,
Not a little bit,
There's a lot of magic in this Shaltazar wisdom and if you kind of play with it,
It can really lead you down a path that most likely would be in your highest good.
Right,
Right and that's kind of the theme of this message is being led versus leading,
Right?
I love paradoxes,
Especially Shaltazar paradoxes and they're always good for a fabulous paradox and,
You know,
This message talks a lot about faith,
About,
You know,
Handing over the rudder of life to them.
They say,
You know,
Hand the rudder off to us and let us lead the way and it kind of really gets to the issue of control,
Right?
And,
You know,
How frightened we are as humans to let go of that control and give it over to somebody or something else.
Yeah,
It's kind of interesting that one of the things that struck me in that message is the emphatic nature that they use the word faith and,
Of course,
They never pick the words.
I pick the words because the messages come in a very sensory way,
In a very clear cognizant way and it's my job to translate or transcribe that message.
So the word faith is my word but they said it with such emphasis that I got a really deep feeling about that faith and faith as a connotation,
A different connotation to different people and they also speak about the fact that they're asking us to have faith in something we do not understand or cannot comprehend and so it's a little bit different than some of the religious faith doctrine.
This is them admitting that we can't comprehend and we need to trust that which is beyond our comprehension which I find that was kind of interesting and that was what I needed today.
I needed to really up my faith game a little bit and dial down my control game and you and I have talked about control and surrender a lot and in order to be comfortable with surrender you really got to have a high dose of faith otherwise you're gonna want to be in control because if you don't have that then fear is gonna come up.
Of course fear and faith are opposites right?
Right,
Right,
Right.
Yeah the little note I wrote down was the great paradox seizing control by surrendering to faith.
So it's the exact opposite of you know how you think it should be but you know we're so we feel so responsible for our lives and everything that's happening around us and so we feel like well we have to be in control of it we have to take action we have to you know get our fingers in it and sometimes it's you know the it seems like what the message is saying is that's kind of the exact opposite of what you want to do you want to you want to surrender to spirit surrender to faith you know like they said you know hand the rudder of your life over to us and in doing so you regain control of you and who you are.
Yeah and it's kind of interesting because I'm having some experience you're part of what we're trying to do in a collaborative cooperative setting back in my work days it tended to be more of a hierarchical kind of thing I'm sure you've had that experience and we're playing around with trying to to get the messages as shelters are to get this wisdom to to get our content out there and we're doing it a very collaborative and cooperative way and it does require to a certain degree that giving up a control we had a we had a lovely meeting with our team on Friday and it felt so good because it was very collaborative and there was real faith there wasn't one person that needed to dominate and so I get the sense that that's what they're trying to encourage us is that there's a team available to help us but a lot of our human experiences have led us to believe that we're in this alone that you got to take care of yourself you got to protect and and sure you may have your family but you you've got some issues in your family and you're not quite sure of their of how you know are they got their best your best interest in mind so I think again this there's this paradox of going it alone separation versus unity and we've heard that separation versus unity theme many many times from from shaltazar and so I think in this faith they're asking us to move to that unity that collaboration that cooperation of not only human but but non form non duality energy and so it's it's kind of neat that like you say that the paradoxes in this are kind of fascinating yeah yeah yeah and I mean the other part of it is that that death and rebirth theme right and it almost reminded me of you know the idea of the Phoenix right going up in flames and then and then being reborn is something new and that kind of is a consistent theme throughout this this message also and what they're saying must die if I understand it right is the mind right so it's a choice that they're saying you know do you want to basically do you want to trust us to show you the way or do you want to trust your mind and so to me that means that the mind is not not our friend when it comes to connecting the spirit yeah yeah yeah 100% 100% interesting I just want to comment on that death and dying because as I was listening to it it was like whoa you know did you overdo that one it was kind of you know it's like gee I wish I would have toned that down of course I don't really have a lot of choice when it's coming through and I'm kind of out of the way and and and it was pretty stark how they talked about that death and dying over and over again and it was it was a bit scary but then I realized how important what they were saying was and that and that closing of one door to open another and and I think how they they had to get the the message across is use those terms that often we find a bit scary which is which is death and dying with regard to the mind it's interesting I recall near the end they talked about when you leave your physical form it is not your mind that comes with you which is yeah which I thought was really fascinating and I think that the dying of the mind or the letting go of the mind they're talking about is more about the conditioned mind not the not the present moment mind not the not the mindful mind I think they're really talking about that unconscious tape recorder of everything that's recorded and it's a bit tricky because because I mean how can we live without our mind we need our mind but I think what they're trying to tell us is that the if the mind becomes more present moment focused and we don't allow the past and the anticipation of the future to be ruling what our decisions are which is that the mind that I think they're encouraging us to to let go of and the mind simply becomes the the the the mindful mind then the mindful mind takes its instructions from from spirit from heart of hearts from the feeling consciousness and so there's so many layers in this one this would be an interesting one for us to do a deep dive on it's really if you take it on the surface and you talk about the mind dying one could find it rather mmm difficult to comprehend but I think the best way I can explain it like I say I'm reiterating myself is the letting go of the mind that is focusing on the past and future and being in the present moment mind mm-hmm yeah yeah it's like the the mind is a tool that you need to interpret your connection to spirit right so you you know you're you're you're you're feeling you know your heart is where where where spirit speaks to you but you have to be able to take that feeling and translate it like you do with shelters are into something that you can verbalize and understand you know and that seems to be quieting of the mind needs to take place before you can have that experience of understanding perhaps 100% I think I think you're as you described it that's exact by the way there's a couple of times today as you were saying something it was like he's reading my mind but that doesn't surprise me but by doing so it's because you're sort of in you are definitely in the present moment we're in a certain resonance having done this as often as we do there's this certain resonance but that example of how I channel is right on because what is coming out of my mouth hopefully is is sort of intelligent words but I am not getting it from my preconceived notions I'm not getting it from my conditioned beliefs it is coming through in the moment and as a matter of fact you've you know you you you aptly pointed out that sometimes when I channel there seems to be a little bit of the voice of Jeffrey Eisen and you can notice other times when I'm channeling where it's all shelters ours voice and the times where it seems to be a little bit of the voice of Jeffrey Eisen it's where my mind is not in that still point my mind has not been dialed back my mind is is sort of the condition mind is jumping ahead of what shelters are is feeding me in order for anyone to channel you really have to be in that moment and you have to be patient and you have to connect in a very sensory way and then simply be the translator or the transcriber of that sensory experience so that's a perfect example of what they're encouraging us to do more of the time stop the mental chatter be in the moment and simply allow what comes through from spirit in a sensory way to be interpreted to be transcribed by the mind without without judgment without censoring right and and that's kind of difficult because you know we were taught from a young age to censor to watch what you say watch your mouth you know don't say the wrong thing I don't know about you but I was I was you know children should be seen and not heard right from a young age we're sort of really cautious as to what comes out of our mouth and as a consequence the mind gets gets the job of being the judge jury censer and I think what they're telling us if we want spirit to lead the way is you have to let go of that mind and simply allow it to be the translator and transcriber right yeah one of the one of the lines in here that I highlighted is again they repeat a common theme the change is not an option that we are going through change and it's going to happen and to allow change to come into your life you need to let go of the mind and open up open up to spirit to lead you by doing so and this is this is kind of a fascinating thing to me I thought this is by doing so your mind will be recalibrated to operate in a new way it will be reprogrammed in a way that brings more compassion more empathy more kindness and more understanding to your world the old beliefs that have resulted in hatred bigotry fear competition and persecution will die off and be replaced with a kinder and gentler way so not only are we are we allowing spirit to lead us but we're our DNA is basically being reprogrammed and reformatted to a whole different way of different way of approaching life and that's that's remarkable I think absolutely absolutely and it's interesting it's interesting you say that because I notice myself with with a lot of people all around me complaining about what's happening with COVID and how governments and institutions are handling it I have a little higher level of tolerance realizing that this is uncharted territory and I certainly wouldn't want to be the person making these these decisions and I believe that that's exactly what you're talking about having channeled shelters are having been on this journey for as long as I have there's a compassion and understanding a kindness a tolerance that I never had before and and if anyone knew me in my early years pre 50 I was the total opposite of that I would be the the one that would be ranting and raving and they don't understand and all of those things and and so how can I be this person who is more understanding when I used to be a person who had no patience to try and understand the other point of view it is exactly what what what shelters are is saying in this we reprogram we reprogram the unconscious mind in such a way that that my tape recorder my automatic way of response is different than it used to be when I was coming more from separation so having tapped in to spirit I'm responding in a more spirit centered heart centered way mm-hmm yeah and and you know kind of going back to what you said before about you know about the you know we're talking about getting mind out of the way right in a way kovat has has been like the I didn't know if you want to call it a pause button but like I think of this image from one of the Harry Potter movies where they were in a room and one of the professor's released a what were they Cornish Pixies little blue things and they were in a cage and they started flying all over the room and I think it was Hermione cast a spell and everything just sort of like stopped right everything just kind of was suspended in in suddenly in slow motion and it's almost like that's that was one of the benefits of kovat I think is you know we were going charging ahead you know with our left brain going 100 miles an hour doing and working and you know earning and spending and buying and whatever we were doing and now then it was all of a sudden it just boom it just stopped like that it kind of just we're suddenly just floating and that pause to our busyness of our left brain has seemed to allow a lot of us to kind of maybe connect to that right brain more and that spirit side more I don't know hundred percent hundred percent think about this when we go to travel there's this thing called mandatory quarantine and it's kinda it's kind of fascinating that depending on where you are whether it's five days ten days seventeen days or sorry fourteen days whatever it is you are forced I know someone I used to work with he got a gig down in the Grand Caymans when he had to spend 14 days by himself in a hotel room and they bring him food and it's sort of like wow what what a reset what a what an opportunity what an opportunity because he happened to be on this on a spiritual journey and it was kind of amazing that that the universe is giving us an opportunity for this self reflection this disconnection from the busy world so I think you're absolutely right that's you know that's why shelters are saying we're in the the energy of the great potential for change where no changes is not an option these this isolation this this quarantine all of those things are opportunities for us to slow down the mind that shelters are says needs to die as we know it and be reborn in a new way in a quieter kinder more pensive more present moment mindful way right great message it was it was a good one I encourage folks to check it out and see if you see if you have similar insights to the ones we had some and I love sharing those insights thank you so much for picking it today it was it was one that helped me through the day and I love doing these things with you so thank you so much mark thank you we'll talk to you next time excellent love and light to everyone
