Cosmically Candid Ep. 3 - A Trinity Sisterhood

Erika and Andrea welcome their spiritual sister, Cathey Suen, to discuss the creation of their 333 energy vortex that brings through higher dimensional realities beyond the 3-D matrix. Cathey shares her mystical experiences with mountain climbing that break through the limitations of time and space. The sisters discuss how vulnerability, authenticity, and unconditional love have completely transformed their spiritual journeys.

Transcript

This is Erica Hsu,

I'm an intuitive and spiritual healer.

And this is Andrea Edwards,

I am a hypnotherapist and psychic medium.

And together we are Cosmically Candid.

Well,

Welcome to episode three of our podcast,

Cosmically Candid.

And today we have our special guest,

Kathy,

Who is our third divine sister,

And we just knew that for episode three,

It would be very important to have her on and to share her story and how we all have connected in this amazing,

Amazing,

Amazing vortex of energy that we've created,

Essentially.

So Kathy,

Welcome.

Thank you.

It's a pleasure to join you guys.

Welcome Kathy.

So I was thinking since the two of you knew each other before I met Kathy,

Maybe you two would like to share a little bit of your background and history together.

I mean,

Where do we get I've known Erica for so long,

My ST,

We kind of go way back and I mean,

We kind of had like the same circle of friends and but I really remember connecting with Erica at her house when we were playing a board game.

And what was that board game?

What was it called?

Cranium?

Yeah.

I was trying to convey a particular politician and I don't I don't even think I said any words.

I just said,

And Erica got it on the dot,

Dick Cheney or somebody.

And our husbands were like,

What is happening?

And that's when I knew,

You know,

We could telepathically speak and we were just connected.

And I mean,

From then on,

We just got so close and,

You know,

Our lives really are so intertwined.

I think that we understand each other on a different level beyond words and earthly things.

Our connection is just so,

So deep.

Yeah.

For COVID that really deepened our connection on another level.

And I just remember Kathy was alluding to just getting the sense that we were both having these blockages that were keeping us from moving forward into our fullest potential.

And it's something that I can very readily see in others and have the desire to help others.

And that's kind of how,

You know,

What I dedicate my life to.

But it's not always as easy to see it in myself.

And I feel like Kathy saw a part of me that I've been wanting to come in contact with for a really long time,

But haven't known how to.

And she really encouraged me to get on this path of finding what that is.

So that's kind of how the deepening of our friendship happened a few years ago.

Yeah,

That's definitely true.

I remember us connecting during COVID.

And,

You know,

I think that we all kind of had a little bit of time to sit with ourselves and we connected over our depression.

And through that connection,

I think we've realized the power of even that depression that connected us to begin with.

It's been so magical ever since.

Really,

We have,

Yeah,

Just kind of went from a place of trying to figure out what was wrong with us and fix that to realizing that there's nothing wrong with us.

And we are so blessed to be here and that we get to live this life.

It's just amazing.

Yes,

And to share a sisterhood where we can genuinely support one another,

See one another,

Help each other when we're having challenges.

And it is truly the challenges that brought us together,

Because I feel with the loss of my dad and the loss of your mom,

It did give us something in common.

Which is just the cycles of grief and the cycles of depression that can come with that.

But in some ways,

I feel as though that's truly what brought us together.

And so,

Like you said,

A lot of people feel that depression is something negative.

And yeah,

I understand it's super scary and nobody wants to feel that way.

But at the same time,

I feel that depression is this portal,

It's this gateway that when you can really tune into the messages and have a moment to yourself,

Give yourself some space that it's leading you to connecting with yourself and remembering who you are and bringing into your life people who truly love you for who you are and support you.

And so,

Really,

Truly,

Kathy,

I feel that I was on this path.

It felt very lonely and you made it so much more fun and magical and you just gave me a certain sense of support that I think I always wanted and needed.

So,

Thank you.

Well,

You're so welcome.

And I feel the same way.

It's so interesting because,

Yeah,

Like,

You know,

When I think about our connection and kind of that shared history that we have with depression,

It's interesting now looking back on it because you're right,

It's an opportunity and a portal.

And when you're so deeply in that kind of black hole of depression,

There's not a lot of people that you really want to reach out to and connect with,

Kind of want to go deeper into your hole by yourself.

And you were always one that kind of was like an olive branch for me.

And now I see that it's because we were meant to kind of break through all the paradigms of this world and see what we had forgotten.

Yes,

It's become a lot greater,

A lot bigger mission than we even ever realized back then.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so then,

As you guys know,

Andrea and I met about a year ago.

And at some point,

I felt like it would be wonderful for Kathy and Andrea to meet.

I just knew in my heart of hearts that they would just love each other and see the magic in each other.

And during that time leading up to their meeting,

I remember I kept on receiving the download of the number 333.

And I am fully convinced now that numbers are one of the ways that the divine speaks to us.

It's a language in and of itself.

And at the time,

I didn't fully understand what it meant,

But I knew it was something that was divinely guided.

And so I don't even remember what month it was,

Was it March?

It was March.

Yeah,

March.

March,

The third month that Andrea and Kathy and I met.

And then it just accelerated the magic and the connection on truly a whole different level.

And I love hearing your story,

Both of you sharing it so tenderly.

I have not heard it in that great of detail.

So that was so beautiful.

And how you two came together through the depression,

Which is wild because when I came into the mix,

You both seemed very unlikely people to be depressed.

So you did so much work together.

And I had the vision.

Kathy is such an earth,

Earth,

She has so much earth energy.

And as you two were speaking,

I saw that you two like dug this hole,

This beautiful hole and like jumped in as little seeds.

And I got to jump into that hole that you two dug together and worked on.

And I am just so grateful that you both did this incredibly challenging work together through such a dark time for each of you.

And how blessed that you two found each other and were able to be that sense of support for each other during such a period where isolation and aloneness can really take over.

So I'm just feeling so much gratitude that the two of you had each other to get through that challenging time and then opened both of your hearts and worlds to me because my life has completely changed since meeting first Erica.

And as if that couldn't have gotten any better.

Then I get introduced to Kathy and it was instant love just instant.

And so I'm,

I'm just sitting here so grateful for this moment that we get to share our,

Our amazing trinity of sisterhood.

That is the,

The foundation of it is lies in the three,

Three,

Three.

That's so sweet,

Andrea.

Yeah.

And I totally agree.

It's so interesting because when I first met you,

I just will never forget that it looked like glowing,

Like your whole being was just like glowing.

And I think it was love at first sight.

And it's so funny because I said the same thing to you.

It was like,

Oh my gosh,

Your eyes were sparkling.

And I remember saying it.

And I don't know if it was Erica.

Yeah.

Erica must've been said,

Oh yeah.

Would she,

Or you said it about Erica?

I don't know.

It was so like,

Whoa,

It was already happening for us.

Then it was amazing.

Yeah,

That's so true.

And it's very interesting the way you describe what Erica and I did.

I never really thought of it that way,

Like that we were digging a hole.

And now that you say that it's,

It's such an incredible visual because I think we did do that Erica.

I think we did dig that hole and we were in that hole for a while and we kind of busted out of it right before we met you.

In this really cool way,

Erica and I,

We went on this retreat to a place in Topanga that's literally called Elsewhere.

I love that name.

We kind of learned so much about ourselves on this retreat where we really dug deep and kind of,

You know,

Dug out all the deepest parts of ourselves that were tucked away for so long.

That hole kind of like gave us the ability to do that,

You know,

To give us that,

That kind of earth grounding space to be able to dig up all that stuff together.

And then we,

And then we met you and you just like blew the top off and everything's just been rainbows and hearts and beauty ever since.

Ever since.

It is,

It is a magical connection that we have and it is divinely guided and just like Erica,

You called it something at the beginning here,

But it's,

It is truly a vortex that we have created that is,

It has,

It's like a power of its own and the three of us communicate on a text string and all we really have to do is put something in our text string and it's like,

Whoa,

Like something else takes over and it's just such power that the three of us have created together.

Yes,

It's like a spontaneous transmission of truth that breaks through the 3D reality,

All the limitations that we've been programmed to believe in.

And it's really important for us to start talking about that because the more we do,

I think the people who are on the precipice of awakening and recognizing that there are these kinds of energetic limitations on this world,

On this earth is going to help them to see and to move past it into the world that we live in,

Which is always been here.

It's always been here.

This world of magic of constant and regular synchronicities of the ability to download and receive divine messages and guidance on a regular basis.

These are all abilities that we have,

But we have been suppressed and programmed to minimize these abilities,

To minimize the miracles that are going on on a daily basis.

So it's right before our very eyes.

And I feel like the three of us have come together to show the ones who are interested,

Who are curious,

Who have experienced this magic,

This synchronicity,

And maybe have been talked out of it or minimized or persecuted or judged for it,

To give those ones a safe place,

A safe space in which they can dig their holes and clear out the pain of the past,

The suppression of the past.

So that literally,

When you gave that metaphor,

It was like,

Kathy and I jumped in and we were the seeds.

You jumped in and you were a seed.

We dug the hole and we cleared the way so that there was space for us to plant ourselves and grow beyond the reality that we've been programmed to think is just all there is,

Right?

Right.

And it can feel very isolating when you are,

When you see it and you are in that in between of,

I know that,

I know it's there,

But I can't prove it.

I can't,

You know,

And you doubt and you can feel so alone,

Especially when you start to voice it and are met with,

You know,

Skepticism,

Exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean,

I think that that was kind of the essence of Elsewhere that we were even,

That we became aware of that matrix.

I call it the matrix.

You know,

It's just this like deep programming of,

I don't know where it comes from,

The world.

But,

You know,

I realized at Elsewhere that there is so much silencing.

Like,

You know,

You have these thoughts and these connections and they go unsaid because of fear of persecution or ridicule or something like that.

And a lot of the silencing is self-driven,

You know,

Kind of just shrink away because it doesn't feel valid.

And just to realize that was such an important thing.

And then to have somebody to share that with was,

It just like opened a portal that,

Like it opened a channel that just keeps growing and growing because now we're finding more and more people to connect with in this way.

And it's,

We've like kind of sprouted now into a bigger garden where everyone can come and play.

Yeah.

Everyone can come and play and admire all the colors and sit under the shade of our tree.

And it just feels that way.

Like the more we grow our garden or the more we anchor in this truth,

The more people around us are waking up to it.

Yes.

We call the people around us orbiters.

And it's uncanny the amount of people,

Our family members and friends that are orbiting,

Which means they are tuning into us and they are bringing up things that we have intimately shared with each other.

And,

You know,

They will say something by something and they are right there,

Right there.

And so we feel that our energetic portal that we have created,

It has such strength that it is literally starting to pull those,

You know,

People nearby sort of into it as well.

And it's beautiful.

It's,

It's,

It's,

It's such a gift because we all,

You know,

We are doing this for ourselves,

But to be able to share and inspire and gather and help others is girls like,

That's just the ultimate gift,

Right?

Yeah,

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean,

This whole experience,

I've felt the connectedness of everybody.

And so you're right.

It's like the greatest gift because you're helping others,

But helping everybody.

We're all one.

Yeah.

And that's how I really start to see this vision that this 3D matrix exists.

It is a matrix of silencing and suppression that really keeps us enslaved to a certain system where we are kept away from our true divinity,

Our true power,

Our true destiny,

Our true purpose.

But rather than trying to fight against it,

The path to transcending it is for each of us to work on ourselves to become accountable for our own past,

Our own pain and accountable for our own healing.

And in the process,

Uncover the truth of our sovereignty of our divinity,

And then to connect with like-minded souls who are on the same path,

Create this powerful vortex of energy,

And make it so beyond reasonable doubt,

Right,

That this is the truth.

And so it begins to awaken and heal and activate all of the beings who are connected with us because it is this network of oneness.

So I can just see how much power there is in even the three of us creating this portal.

And I know that this is going to grow,

That we are going to continue on this path.

And as we maintain this belief,

This knowing,

Maintain our divinity,

Maintain our sovereignty,

That this mission is going to grow and grow and grow.

Absolutely.

Yeah,

I mean,

For me,

You know,

Breaking through that matrix was just such a life-changing thing,

You know,

Because I think when we first started connecting,

Erika,

I was always saying like how I just don't ever have time for anything.

You know,

I've always felt exhausted.

And I would be working,

Going home to take care of my kids.

That was it.

There's no other time for anything else.

And I never even had the time to think about what I would do if I had time to do something else.

And I was just kind of stuck in this loop.

And,

You know,

Breaking through the matrix,

It meant breaking through that time paradigm as well,

Where if I was using time as an excuse to not get to know myself and to not do the things that would lead me to getting to know myself and remembering who I am.

Because it's kind of scary,

You know,

You're just kind of,

I was operating under the veil of just doing what I'm supposed to do,

Being a good girl and,

You know,

Doing my job and being a good mom and wife.

But kind of losing myself in the background of it all.

And to really kind of break through that,

It has changed my life so much where I am now sitting here talking to you guys on this awesome podcast,

I am able to do all my work,

I get to hang out with my kids,

I get to do all these cool things that I could not have imagined.

I mean,

This year,

I climbed three different mountains.

I don't know how I found time to do that.

Because time is just so different now in this reality.

And there are no limits,

There are no limits that I used to think were so objective,

You know,

And they're not.

That's the ultimate empowerment.

And I think there are so many different mechanisms that keep us stuck in this world,

Feeling limited,

And that it feels like a hard wall that we're up against.

We're just constantly struggling for you to find time was everything,

You know,

And just constantly struggling to,

To feel as though you would ever have time to do such amazing feats,

Like climbing mountains,

Right?

Like,

When am I going to do that when I have to take care of my kids,

And I have my work and,

You know,

And it's always just the struggle,

And feeling worthy to even like,

Take that time for myself was a big thing.

Yeah,

That's,

That's key.

And just the feeling of guilt that,

Okay,

Well,

If I'm doing something for myself,

Then that means I'm taking away time from my family,

From my kids,

Right?

It's like,

It's that 3d world of duality,

Where that everything feels separate,

And dis disjointed,

Right?

Right,

Right.

When in this infinite space,

When you're able to break through the matrix and enter into this infinite space where anything and everything is possible,

You can see that climbing a mountain is freaking inspiring,

And it unlocks something,

A lot of things within you that you can pass on to your children.

Yeah,

And just like the,

You know,

The intention going into it,

It changed so drastically for me,

You know,

I started climbing before elsewhere.

And,

You know,

Each time I would go to the mountain,

It would feel so difficult,

Even just to get to the trailhead,

There would be so much guilt involved.

And it would always be an alone thing.

Like I would always be climbing by myself,

And there would be no one else watching me or following me or,

You know,

And then I would feel like I for some reason being called to climb that mountain,

But also feeling guilty that like,

Why do I have to do this?

And why am I spending all this time by myself doing this and,

And then breaking through this matrix and that kind of guilt and the pressures of time.

The last climb that I did,

It felt completely different.

When my intention was to spread love to this earth,

And our message are,

You know,

The,

The three of us,

Our message of love and hope for this world,

And that it was not just an alone thing.

And I definitely did not feel alone.

And I was not climbing alone.

And I felt the presence of both of you guys in spirit.

And I think some people were following me on ads.

It was just such a different,

Such a different experience outside of the matrix.

Would you say that transformed from a place of feeling like it was a lone mission to all of a sudden feeling like infinite connection with others?

Absolutely,

Including the earth,

A connection with all creatures and the earth.

And I just felt so supported,

You know,

And it could shift like shift like that on a dime,

You know,

And it really depends on your perspective and intention behind it.

And flipping the switch.

Yeah,

I just want to say,

Kathy,

How inspiring you are for the listeners to hear you going from a time scarcity,

To climbing a mountain alone,

To being completely connected to oneness and infinity.

You truly are an inspiring being.

And you work and you have a family.

I've often thought,

Well,

How does Kathy do it?

And you're always smiling and happy.

You know,

I've just,

I have thought that and it's really very inspirational.

Hearing you speak right now.

And I'm just so happy that you're here sharing your story.

Oh,

Thank you so much.

And you guys are a huge reason why I'm always smiling.

I will have not always been like this.

It's been quite the journey to get here.

I'm now like at a place where I feel so lucky to be alive and to be lifing with both of you guys.

It's so incredible.

You are an absolute inspiration.

And I mean,

Let's be really specific about it.

The last mountain was Mount Shasta.

And how many hours was this climb,

Kathy?

A round trip,

It was 19 hours.

God,

That's insane.

Nineteen hours.

And I mean,

I know you mentioned that there were moments where you felt like your life was in danger.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yes,

Absolutely.

I kind of didn't know what I was getting myself into with that climb.

But you know,

I was really called to that mountain.

Yeah,

Eric and I,

We actually went to Sedona very shortly after our 333 spiritual circle where I was able to meet Andrea.

And in Sedona,

In Sedona,

There was so much,

So much energy there that was so peaceful and guiding.

And we were connecting in with all of that.

And I picked up a stone there.

It was an obsidian rock.

And I was just so,

You know,

Fascinated by this rock.

I started researching about it.

And found out that there are obsidian mines near Mount Shasta.

I actually didn't know that they were near Mount Shasta.

I just knew that there were mines in Northern California.

And I was sharing with Erica that I wanted to go up there and mine obsidian.

And she was like,

Oh,

That's near Mount Shasta.

And I've always wanted to go there.

And then we were like,

Well,

Let's go.

And just over time,

Naturally,

I was guided to climb this mountain.

My partner actually was my cousin's husband,

Who has a lot of experience on this mountain.

Thank goodness,

Because he was there to guide me up the mountain.

And yeah,

There were there are parts of that mountain where if it wasn't for Dan guiding me,

I don't know what I would have done.

But I was fearful of my life.

And in those moments,

Though,

It was also very beautiful,

Because I only thought of my family.

When I was fearful of my life,

I saw my two little girls and my husband.

And I miss them so much.

And it felt so kind of,

I felt sad,

I felt sad that I was away from them.

I would look towards the mountain.

And the mountain would send me these beautiful,

You know,

Just,

There would be a glistening rainbow in the in the snow.

And it was just kind of a sign to keep going that,

You know,

It's going to be okay.

That mountain was so gracious and kind of giving me those extra little pushes along the way.

And I kept hearing both of you guys cheering me on as well.

So that's definitely a lot of struggle,

Climbing up that mountain,

But a lot of love.

In those struggles.

Well,

Would you say that you're climbing the mountain opens you up to a certain connection with the world that is more easily accessible on a mountain?

Like,

I'd like to know a little bit about your inspiration for climbing mountains and what it is that you access as you do so.

Yeah.

I mean,

You know,

When I climb mountains,

Just to be surrounded by nature,

That is already just so healing.

Because nature is such a good communicator.

You know,

She listens to you,

She speaks through all sorts of means.

And it does,

I do feel like it connects me to not just humans,

But living creatures,

Even from the past.

Like I feel like there's a lot of ancestral energy in mountains.

And one of the main things that I keep going back for is the feeling of just feeling so small.

You know,

You're looking out and there's just mountain ranges for hundreds of miles,

And that's all you can see.

And it just feels like you're so small in this world.

And also so connected,

You know,

You're a part of the fabric of the school.

That's actually something that is really such a good feeling,

You know,

To get from the mountain.

It's a gift that she gives to people who go out there.

I think in that way,

I'm able to kind of like see my own perspective from a view that's kind of looking at me in the vastness of the earth and the world at large,

Instead of just from my own being,

You know,

Kind of right sizing my perspective a little bit.

That's beautiful.

And what comes to mind is the trek that you did up Mount Gorgonio with your friend,

And that kind of unlocked a whole new dimension of connectedness and also healing,

Right?

Yeah,

I still actually don't know how to describe that journey.

But yeah,

Absolutely.

It unlocks something that I'm still trying to understand fully.

And that was also a 19-hour truck through San Gorgonio.

Very,

Very different from Mount Shasta in that it isn't as steep,

But very long,

Like the journey was long and winding.

And it almost felt kind of like a maze-like at some point,

Because the trail kind of switches back on each other so often in this long,

Winding road.

And through this experience,

I was able to actually connect with my friend's mom on such a level where I could feel that time and space had kind of melted away.

And I was on top of this.

I was at the summit of San Gorgonio,

And her mom was in a home in,

Where is she?

In San Diego County somewhere.

And I felt her soul.

I connected in with it.

And just to give some background,

My friend's mom had broken her hip,

And she had gone through constructive surgery.

And for the three weeks prior to this climb,

She was declining.

And the day before the climb,

We got,

My friend got a call that she was not kind of opening her eyes,

That she was not doing well.

And on top of this mountain,

Her and I both just kind of sent this intention out to connect with her and to give her strength and to give her our love and our light.

And we really believe that she received that.

I actually felt it while I was up there.

And on our way down,

We were not getting any sort of self-signal whatsoever,

But we were somehow able to get a message that she had turned a corner and was alert now.

And even to this day,

She's doing pretty well.

So I don't exactly know what happened,

But I know that something changed for me that day,

Because I also did that entire climb with these crazy boots,

These five-pound boots that were just insane and just so painful.

The whole way down was so painful.

But I came out of it not sore.

And I still,

I mean,

Just the energy of that mountain,

It still baffles me.

But I know that it's trying to teach me that,

You know,

Again,

What we think of our bodies,

Of time and space,

Of our limitations,

Is self-imposed and could be stretched,

Is what I experienced on that mountain.

That is incredible.

Incredible.

Yeah.

That was quite the experience.

I will never forget it.

It's tapping into this new,

Completely new paradigm of possibilities and what it means to connect with others and what it means to heal others.

Just blowing all the limitations off of it and showing us that we have the capability of commanding miracles in this life.

Yeah.

And it was such a pure intention that we set out with,

You know,

Because I mean,

I was actually really surprised that my friend showed up for this.

You know,

I had been the one actually to suggest this climb because I was preparing for Mount Shasta.

And,

You know,

After hearing about the news from her mom,

I just figured she was not,

You know,

She's probably going to not be able to do this climb with me.

But,

You know,

We came together and she told me that,

You know,

We have to do this climb for her mom.

Like she had done this before.

My friend had actually done this before for her sister,

Her sister Kathy,

Who was facing like a life and death situation as well.

And so she kind of knew this power of the mountain.

I'm just amazed that I was able to experience that with her.

It's absolutely miraculous.

It's absolutely inspirational.

And I hope I have mentioned this to you before,

But I hope you know that you are inspiring so many and unlocking within many people this thought of,

Oh,

Maybe I can do that.

Maybe it's possible for me too.

And I think that's really important because you're leading people and connecting people with the mountain and all of the wisdom and the activation power and the connection that the mountain has.

And that's such a beautiful,

Inspiring thing.

Oh my gosh.

I'm so honored.

Honored to do that.

And yeah,

I mean,

I think there is a,

You know,

I think that,

You know,

This is obviously a podcast that people can't see me,

But I'm a very small woman.

And,

You know,

If I can do,

If I can climb those mountains,

Pretty much anybody could,

You know,

I'm just so happy to kind of have that connection.

And I love sharing it with everybody because it's,

It's been life changing for me.

And yeah,

I'm honored to do that.

And also the message that I'm getting is that for everyone,

It could be something different.

And the three of us just went rock climbing the other day and I feared for my life doing that indoor,

By the way,

But yeah,

It's like,

It's,

It could be anything.

It could be white water rafting for someone or just,

You know,

The mountain is you,

Kathy,

It's like you and mountains are one.

It's just like this,

You know,

I feel that with you and the mountains and,

And yeah,

It's,

It's things in nature where we can,

You know,

For me,

It's the beaches and sunsets and where we can just have that space to show up as who we are.

And I think that you,

This is just,

I mean,

We overuse the word inspiring,

But it's so true to say it again.

And yeah,

It's,

It's beautiful.

You're reminding me,

Andrea,

Of how nature really holds the truth for us.

It holds the space in which we can reconnect back with ourselves.

Yeah,

It can look different for different people.

And for me,

I connect with the trees and I feel like I can communicate with them and receive wisdom from them and receive love from them.

And I feel like in this world where it is so full of the 3D programming,

It's going out into nature that helps us to reconnect and remember.

That's so true.

Absolutely.

And your trees,

They,

They thrive under your care.

Oh my goodness.

Yes,

My,

My banana tree,

I was marveling at the other day because the mama banana tree baby who grew to be almost twice her size.

And then now there are three more.

So it's a family of five little banana trees.

I love them so much.

All of your plants,

Erica,

Have babies.

It's so amazing.

It's just so lush and green and abundant.

Abundance to the max.

Yes.

I think it's really incredible that all of your plants have,

Are,

Are mamas and have babies.

How does that even happen?

So true.

It's so cute when I walk out in the backyard and I see that there's just these clusters of families,

You know,

With her babies here and my agave plant and my mother of thousands plant is,

I mean,

She's produced so many babies and I've given gifts to so many people and they sometimes text me photos of their plants and said,

Oh my gosh,

It's now creating its own babies too.

I've literally given them away to so many people and she's continuing to grow so many babies.

And I think that's what happens when we are able to like step out of the matrix is that nature starts speaking to us,

Animals,

Kind of everything,

Even objects,

License plates,

Everything.

Yeah.

And life becomes really fun.

Absolutely.

The moment that you start trusting in to the messages and it's like learning how to speak a new language almost,

And it's an art as well of decoding the subtle hidden truth that's underneath the form of it.

But once you start trusting into it and getting into the flow of it,

Oh my gosh,

I mean,

Every single week or day,

We receive so many signs,

So many messages,

So many synchronicities,

And we think,

Oh my God,

This is so magical beyond our greatest imagination.

How is tomorrow going to top that?

And somehow it does.

Just today,

It topped it like the gazillion times over.

Right?

Yeah.

With us sharing candidly about what's going on and the things that we've been receiving,

And somehow it becomes connected and we start to connect the dots together because now we speak this language together,

Right?

It's the language of infinity.

It's the language of divine,

The divine.

And so no,

It's not going to stop.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's true.

And you're bringing up a point too about,

I mean,

I'm remembering myself just not so long ago before I knew you girls where I knew these were signs.

I knew it.

I saw the numbers.

I was like,

Oh,

What is it telling me?

What,

What,

What?

And I couldn't,

I couldn't get there.

And I just,

It was really challenging.

And then fortunately coming into your space and having this more solid foundation helped me to sort of relax a little bit.

And both of you having both of you helping to decode things,

My intuition started to kick in a little bit and it's taken some time,

But now I obviously,

I mean,

My,

I'm like bowing over here to you guys,

Because you guys are able to see so far beyond that in messages that I wouldn't see.

I just wouldn't get there or see the tip of the iceberg.

And however,

I'm also seeing and understanding that it's also lies in our own intuition and that my intuition is it's like kicking in and it's starting to go a little bit faster now.

And so it's a process.

So for anyone out there who is feeling like,

I know that there's a message here,

But I don't know what it is yet.

I know that frustration and just,

Just trust,

Trust,

And try to just keep tuning into your own intuition and you'll,

You'll get there.

We'll get there.

Yeah,

That's so true.

I was actually going to say that I wanted to give a lot of credit to Erica because Erica is this like incredible well of knowledge and she just has the divine mystical connections for everything that we throw at her.

Well,

Just like kind of put something out there like,

Oh,

We noticed this thing.

And then Erica will say,

You know,

That that is blah,

Blah,

Blah.

And we're like,

And yet it's a thousand percent true.

Right.

It's like,

There's,

It's like,

Of course that's what it was,

You know?

Yeah.

It's a gift.

I feel like because he,

You know,

He used to,

He knew everything.

My dad really did.

And he would always say,

I would be like,

Dad,

How do you know that?

And he'd say,

He'd chuckle and say,

I know everything.

Gave you that gift.

But I have this tendency to read every single thing that crosses my path.

Like I will read every single word of it.

And apparently some of it sticks.

So just a little bit,

Bring up stuff.

It just kind of like helps me to access this knowledge that kind of lies dormant,

You know?

And so it is very much synergistic.

We hold certain abilities and talents and gifts.

And Andrea,

I'm surprised to hear you say that because I feel like your intuition is so open,

So strong,

And you provide this connection,

The rainbow connection,

Provide this connection that helps to accelerate all of our receiving.

That's so true.

You're the accelerator.

That's so helpful.

That's so helpful.

Because as I've shared with you both,

I mean,

Also,

And let's talk about Kathy for a moment with my gosh,

The downloads that you are,

It's like coming out of you,

Like,

And just so quickly,

Too,

As of late,

How you've been sharing with us.

But yeah,

So,

Oh,

Thank you,

Guys.

It's really nice to hear that.

Because among the two of you,

It can feel a little bit like,

Oh,

My goodness,

You know,

It's not,

Things aren't pouring out of me,

Like they do both of you.

But thank you,

Because I love to be this,

I have newly discovered,

Thanks to you two,

This connection that I have,

That is my energy,

That is this beautiful,

Well,

We call it rainbow.

And this beautiful rainbow energy that recently,

I have been guided to sit and emit and put out to the universe.

And I just also want to take this time to thank you two,

Because you both showed me the way to find that in myself.

And I am so grateful.

And I really am so sincerely deep gratitude that you recognize that in me and that I contribute that in our in our group.

So thank you.

Absolutely.

We were meant to meet in this lifetime.

I have zero doubts about that.

It is just with absolute certainty that I know we were meant to meet at this very point in our lives when we were all kind of at the tipping point of searching of having searched for so long to gain a deeper and more complete understanding of who we are.

And we met just at that perfect moment when we could offer our authentic selves to one another.

In this,

In the sisterhood of unconditional love and acceptance.

And it's just accelerated everything into infinity.

Everything,

Everything and you are very much an important and necessary part of sisterhood of our vortex of energy.

I feel that from you guys,

Too.

And it's interesting because that's still me.

That's still some,

You know,

My,

My piece that I'm still working through the,

The worthiness and that.

So,

Yeah,

It's so true.

You,

You guys.

Oh,

My gosh.

I mean,

The love and support and um,

Value that you both reflect to me is beyond what I ever would have hoped for in people.

And so that has helped me on find,

Find my value,

Literally helped me remember who I am.

Both of you.

Well,

You know,

I'm remembering now that when the three of us got together for the first time,

I think all three of us individually,

Without consulting each other came together in that moment with the intention of being authentically our true selves.

Yeah.

And that's not something that is easy to do.

I mean,

That's something that I never did before that moment,

Before that day that we all came together.

And how crazy it is that we all found our authentic,

True selves together.

Wow.

On that day that we all met,

Because we were kind of able to see,

See things in each other,

You know,

Like when you talk about us kind of activating this rainbow energy for you,

Andrea,

But you had it,

We saw,

Like the moment I met you.

Yeah,

I didn't,

I didn't know.

I didn't see it.

Right.

You two helped me to see it.

Hmm.

And you brought that into our energy field,

Because now I see rainbows everywhere.

Under your microscope.

Yeah.

Oh,

My gosh.

And,

And it is funny that that day,

You asked me who,

Who are you?

You asked me to my face,

Who are you?

And it was shocking.

It was a horrific moment in my life,

Because I was speechless.

I was speechless.

And I was embarrassed that I didn't have an answer.

And,

And yet,

That's,

Look at,

That was the day I met you.

And I know who I am now.

And it's,

Oh,

My goodness,

Guys.

Amazing.

That is amazing.

It is amazing.

I feel like this is,

You know,

We're at the tipping point of remembering who we were.

And one of the hardest hurdles to pass through before we can just be completely free in who we are,

Is to clear away that hurdle of an unworthiness.

Yes.

Unworthiness,

And that even though I'm sure so many people have shared with you that they see your beautiful light,

And they see how you emanate that,

You know,

We've all heard good things about ourselves.

But there's such a deep resistance to wanting to fully accept that.

And I feel like at the core of our healing journey,

As we go through these layers and layers and layers and layers of past pain and releasing and forgiving,

At the core of it,

Is something that we only have the key to unlock.

And that is,

Are we going to clear away that last safety mechanism of unworthiness?

Why do we hold that so dear to us?

Because I feel like we were programmed to fear our light.

We're programmed to fear our own power.

Yeah,

I mean,

I don't think it's a comfortable feeling to like be faced with it.

Because there's a reckoning that has to happen,

You know.

And that reckoning is deeply uncomfortable.

Very,

Very uncomfortable.

But everybody has that.

Everybody has that thing where,

You know,

You look back at your life,

And you think about twisted ways that you tried,

But,

You know,

Tried out of,

You know,

Out of a good place and with love,

But you misstepped or,

You know,

Did something wrong.

And all the reckoning that comes with that,

It has to be dealt with,

With so much love and compassion and gentleness.

Otherwise,

It's just too much.

It feels like,

Like a tsunami hitting your body,

And you just kind of disconnect from what lies on the other side of that,

Which is,

You know,

Your true self and this whole wholeness to your being.

And I think it's the reckoning that people kind of shy away from.

Understandably.

Yes,

Right.

Super intense,

And uncomfortable and super duper painful.

Right.

I mean,

I've been on from experience.

Yeah,

I've been on a journey now for I don't I don't even know how many years,

Almost 20 years,

And I have never been shied away from healing and looking at myself and being accountable for my part in things the way that I hold on to my past,

And my unforgiveness.

But this really,

What I feel is one of the final stages of reckoning of seeing how I've held and clung so tightly to my own unworthiness.

Mm hmm.

And then finding the compassion and forgiveness for myself to release that and recognizing that it has nothing to do with what other people have,

Like,

It's not a victimization Right.

Situation.

It's easy when we can see it,

And blame it on somebody else,

To avoid and kind of run away from that reckoning of seeing that at the core,

This is actually self inflicted,

That we hold on to this unworthiness,

And that only we have the key to unlock it.

And I feel like it's really important.

I know,

We probably can't go into too much detail about it.

But just the fact that Jesus and his Christ consciousness has been coming through and touching,

Touching us and encouraging us to release that unworthiness through the light and grace of his immense unconditional love.

Right.

And that I feel his frequency getting stronger and stronger in our sisterhood as well.

We're not alone.

And that's another part of this infinite realm that we have tapped into.

There are so many divine beings of higher consciousness of ascended masters,

Who we can readily connect with on a daily basis,

Who are here to walk the path with us and remind us that this reckoning is not something that we have to hold on our own.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you know,

When I think about the reckoning and why we hold on to it,

And kind of resist that kind of final,

Final stretch.

It is so complicated,

You know,

That resistance comes,

I think,

Because that last little bit of kind of clearing out all the spaces in between,

Where we feel disconnected from ourselves,

Disconnected from our truth.

It is so intertwined with the way that we show love,

And how we have loved and have been loved on,

You know,

And if we don't feel like we want to let that go,

Because that's all the stuff that's good to us that we hold dear.

And it's actually at this threshold that you are faced with this reckoning,

Where you realize like,

All of that love that may have been twisted,

Because we're human,

And we make mistakes,

And we have forgotten about who we actually are in this matrix world,

That,

You know,

We want to hold on to all that love.

And it feels scary to like,

Let that go,

Let that pattern,

That last little pattern go.

But on the other side of it,

It's almost like breaking through the matrix again,

Where it's like,

We can't fathom it until it's,

You're there,

Where there is no such thing as forgiveness,

Because every,

Nobody needs to be forgiven.

There's just grace and compassion for everybody,

Including yourself.

And it's a new way of loving that's not twisted.

And that's just straightforward.

And everybody can feel,

You know,

And it seems so scary to let go of your old ways of loving to be able to get there,

You know,

That reckoning is really scary.

And for me,

That reckoning is,

It's,

It's this attachment.

It's,

It's,

Like you say,

Like,

For me,

The way I experienced it is that I,

My particular flavor is not seen,

You know,

Turning my back,

Not seeing,

Disconnecting.

And so for me,

When I sort of realized that there's this last piece right here,

That is,

It just,

It felt like just badness,

Like,

Just like this,

Like thing that was just like,

Icky.

And I was like,

What is this?

Like,

What?

What?

Like,

I didn't know this is there.

And,

And then at the same time,

Just so attached to it,

Because it felt like me,

Like,

It's so deep ingrained that,

Like,

That has to be me,

Right.

And so there was this,

Like,

Resistance to letting go that,

That I have recently experienced.

And,

And then,

And then,

Like you say,

The twisted night,

Like it,

That is the twist,

Like it,

That's where the twisting originates is from this sense of,

You know,

Wrongness that none of us are wrong.

We're not born wrong,

Right?

Like,

Like,

We're pure when we arrive.

And,

And yet there's something that,

You know,

Happens where we start to believe the,

You know,

That and attach ourselves to this.

And that,

That's,

That was my experience with the,

This sort of reckoning and being in resistance to letting go and just how difficult like that,

That's,

It was painful,

Painful to see and experience the emotions and things that brought,

You know,

Are brought up when you're looking at this big,

You know,

Final piece of it.

Right?

Yeah.

Yeah,

We were born pure,

We were born innocent.

And then we are served this twisted,

Twisted love,

Right?

It's,

It's not pure,

It feels conditional.

We experienced a lot of difficulties and abandonment and betrayal and abuse.

And we have had to kind of twist who we are in order to survive in such a world of duality.

And now it's this untwisting that's happening and return back to our innocence.

And it does feel kind of scary,

Because all our lives,

We've thought of love to be something different,

Something that's twisted,

But we've learned how to adapt to that,

I think,

And it's become a part of our identity.

So it does really feel really scary to let go.

And I feel like this is the moment when the resistance gets the strongest,

Because we are so close to coming back home and returning to our innocence and realizing that it was never lost.

It cannot be taken away from us,

And it never was taken away from us.

Right?

And the matrix will tell you,

The programming will tell you that this world is so treacherous,

And that any twist and turn,

Somebody might take it away.

And once it's gone,

You can never get it back.

And what a lie that is.

And now I'm realizing that maybe we twist it away and hide our innocence because of fear of it being taken from us.

And so we're protecting it,

But in essence,

We're just not allowing it to shine.

And fear of being vulnerable.

And we're learning the messaging.

I mean,

We got this massive message just today about the innocence and being vulnerable,

And that's where the magic happens.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

That's how we came into our 333 spiritual circle.

We came in vulnerable,

And the Sophia Code says that our vulnerability is indivisible,

And that our innocence is invincible.

And we came in willing to be our complete 100% vulnerable,

Authentic selves.

And through that,

This transmission,

This ability to transcend the matrix into the truth was born.

And I believe we were able to do it because of this,

For some interesting reason,

Untwisted love for each other.

It's so easy to love.

So easy to love.

It's like we unconditionally love each other so much.

And being on the receiving end of that has given each of us the strength and courage to be able to,

Quote,

Unquote,

Stand naked in front of each other and do this,

Do this,

What we are doing.

Yeah.

I mean,

For this to work and for our magic to continue,

We have to,

What we say,

Push send always,

Right?

And that doesn't always feel easy to do.

That means that when you're experiencing something or having a thought or seeing a connection,

That you share it.

And even sometimes they're really vulnerable situations.

You're like,

You're expressing something you're failing at or these real moments that we have all the time.

And for one reason or another,

Maybe you think that nobody wants to hear it,

Or it's not worthy of being said.

And we,

For some reason,

The three of us decided,

No,

That's not true.

And we're going to share it with each other.

And now the magic just keeps coming and coming and coming.

It's so true.

Yeah.

It's a brave thing to do,

To share all of your vulnerabilities.

And there have been times where my inner child wanted to shut it all down,

To run away,

To hide in a corner.

And I knew that I had to break a pattern because I have been doing that for my whole life,

Where I get people.

And then when I'm feeling too vulnerable and things feel challenging,

The easiest thing to do is just to preemptively run.

And I chose something different.

And I feel like in doing so,

Every moment that we make the choice to press send always and to share what's happening with authenticity,

It's alchemizing,

It's alchemy,

It's changing and healing our past so that something new is opening up.

It's a divine connection.

And in tandem with that,

It's our growing worthiness that's making us feel as though this kind of unconditional love and sisterhood and divine friendship is something that we're receiving.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm so thankful for both of you for shattering all my paradigms.

And being so authentically and genuinely happy for me as I continue to learn how to fly.

And I hope that I can be the same for you too.

First of all,

Let's just not,

It's not flying,

It is soaring to the highest mountaintops and beyond,

Erica,

You are soaring.

100%.

Thank you.

And Kathy would always say,

You know,

You've clipped your wings and that people around you like it that way.

They feel more comfortable with your wings clipped.

And she would always encourage me to learn and remember how to fly again.

And that's,

That's the twisted love that you were receiving,

Right?

Absolutely.

Yeah,

That's what I knew.

Yeah.

You know,

It's,

It has elements of jealousy,

It has elements of just secret suppression,

And maybe even some fear.

And so yeah,

It was absolutely something that I was very much accustomed to.

And I didn't know any different.

Right?

Yeah.

But I can,

Like you said,

In the infinite space,

There is no need for forgiveness.

But in the 3d world,

There is because we have this illusion that people can commit transgressions against us,

Right?

But I am in a complete state of releasing it all.

Because it's all just insanity.

It's all just us forgetting who we are.

And we're all doing our best to survive in this world that does feel scary and treacherous at times.

And we're all trying to protect ourselves.

And I can see that and understand that in a way where my compassion just overflows for not only the people who might have created that environment around me,

But for myself that I accepted it as,

As love.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm so proud of you.

So proud of you.

It's incredible to hear you saying these things.

And I just want to say that I feel so grateful for both of you to life has just really,

I mean,

Everything feels so divinely connected and beautiful,

But also just so much fun.

So much fun all the time with you guys.

Yeah.

Like we're a video game.

We're on this adventure.

Yeah.

And,

You know,

Like in the beginning of your spiritual journey,

You always ask,

Like,

What are your intentions?

What are your visions for yourself,

But we've been kind of released into this infinite space where we're so excited just to see how spirit is going to guide us next and what we're going to be shown and what we're going to be receiving.

And I love being in this space.

Yeah.

It's,

It's,

It's truly like a grand adventure.

It's so fun.

Yeah.

It's like,

We're playing in a,

A unit,

The playground of the universe.

Right.

And we are like on this,

We get these little crumbs and what,

What's that?

It just keeps going and unraveling and yeah,

It's magical.

It is truly magic.

And again,

I just want to express my gratitude to both of you for allowing me to come and enter your hole with you guys and take it to,

So we could sprout together in,

Into this amazing garden of oneness and love.

So thank you again.

Oh,

Yeah.

Yeah.

Love you guys.

Love you both.

Yeah.

I think this is a good time for us.

It feels complete.

Yes.

And Kathy,

Thank you so much for taking time to come be with us and share this third episode with us.

It was just so perfect to have you on with us.

Thank you.

Thank you.

My pleasure ladies.

So until next time.

Yes.

Bye.

Okay.

Love you girls.

Bye everyone.

Bye.