(Wk 17) Coast Through Life Transition - Unleash Your Peace Podcast

During our first-ever interview episode, I speak with one of my close friends, Neloo Naderi, who speaks to us about using inspired action to help smoothen major life transitions, her battle with depression, and how she was able to expand her mind by doing something new every week for a whole year.

Transcript

Hello and welcome back to Unleash Your Peace.

My name is Ali Shoja.

I'm a positive mindset coach,

A personal transformation expert,

A deliberate creator,

And I am your peace trainer.

And Unleash Your Peace is your peace training.

It's the podcast where every single week we dive into a different aspect about the internal world and we do that for just one purpose and one purpose only,

To get you to look inward.

Because when you look inward,

When you live from that place of introspection,

You actually unlock everything wonderful about your life.

You tap into your creativity,

You tap into your joy,

Into what brings fulfillment into your life,

And you live essentially from a place of power.

And this sets you up to becoming whole,

To becoming the powerful creator that you have come here to be,

To becoming an uplifter in your community and in society and your family,

And also living your best life yet.

Now last week we changed the format of this podcast.

Previously it used to be five short episodes a week and now it's one slightly longer episode,

So 30 minute episode a week.

So I hope you enjoyed last week's 30 minute monologue.

It feels kind of strange to speak for that long,

But I hope you enjoyed it.

And this week I have with me a guest.

I figured I'll take advantage of this new format and actually bring people on that I admire and I respect.

And this individual,

If you follow me on social media,

You know she's one of my closest friends.

We actually created meditation movement together and we host the meditation parties in LA together.

So if you're a member of those,

They're really quite magical and wonderful.

You can get on the list by emailing me by the way,

Me or her.

Without further ado,

I want to introduce you to one of my closest friends,

Nilu Naderi.

Hi,

Ellie.

Hi.

So happy to be here with you.

And I am a listener of your podcast,

So it's kind of awesome to be on here as a guest.

Yeah,

About half of my listeners,

I think,

Maybe all of them are my friends.

That's okay.

That's okay.

That's where it starts.

So you want to know what I do?

Yes.

What do you do?

I mean,

As far as like work's concerned,

I work for a consulting firm and I have been doing that for a little over four years.

So as a management consultant,

I can think typically what you can imagine,

Like if you've seen Up in the Air with George Clooney,

We travel around and we fire people and just cut down on waste in the workforce.

And yeah,

That's not what I do.

No,

But I am a management consultant and we focus on improving systems,

Making things more efficient,

Finding new ways to the same old problems and finding new solutions.

And I kind of not fell into it,

But it was an inspired action that I took about four and a half years ago when I moved back from New York to L.

A.

I had been working in healthcare for years and I knew I wanted to do something else,

But I didn't know what that something was.

And actually,

We were together because we were living together,

You and I,

When I was applying for jobs left and right that I didn't want.

And I was frustrated when they wouldn't call me back.

I'm like,

Oh,

My God,

I am like completely overqualified for this job.

Why aren't they calling me back?

But I don't really want this job,

So I don't really care.

And I don't know if you remember,

But you had said to me,

Stop applying for jobs you don't want and take some time,

Do some yoga,

Meditate,

Go for a hike.

You know,

We're in beautiful Southern California and clear your mind and see what happens.

And I did that in about maybe a week or two of doing that.

Just idea popped into my head.

I was like,

You should do consulting,

Which I had never like ever wanted to do.

And then like the next day I was walking and I see a sign,

A giant like sign on the wall says consulting.

I mean,

I don't even know why I was there.

Like it wasn't like a commercial or ad or anything.

Just said consulting.

I'm like,

OK,

Got it.

And then I literally applied to two consulting firms and then within a week I was employed.

So it was really interesting ride.

So the difference between action,

Which you were doing when you first came back,

Just applying to a crap load of jobs you didn't want and you were completely overqualified for.

And I was applying when I was still living in New York.

So I was like applying.

I had been applying since like May because I knew I wanted to leave.

And yeah,

So months and months of just applying for jobs I didn't want and not getting one callback,

Not one.

Yeah.

And then the difference between that and inspired action.

Can you talk a little bit about inspired action?

That is a really interesting thing.

Sure.

So we all are told like we have intuition.

We have that internal voice that speaks clearly.

It's a kind of a softer voice than other voices we might hear.

But really it's quieting down your mind in order to hear that voice,

In order to.

And sometimes it's not a voice.

It's just a feeling,

Just kind of like an idea that comes.

But what I've learned is if I'm kind of busy doing and busy like running around,

I don't hear it.

And if I hear it,

I ignore it.

I'm like,

What is that?

And so when I went four and a half years ago when I had done that and started going on those little hikes and meditating,

I wasn't yet a daily meditator.

So I think it was even more effective because I think my body or my mind,

My spirit was craving it.

So that ability to kind of get grounded,

Quiet the noise and allow for something to come up and you can't sit there and like,

Okay,

Come,

Come,

Come.

And you're just waiting for it.

Like then it's like you're forcing it and it's like not going to happen.

You're like anticipating something and you're almost frustrated that you're not hearing anything.

So it just kind of allowing for the space for something to come and being ready to hear it when it comes.

That makes any sense.

Yeah.

So for people who are regular meditators,

They've probably experienced this and people who are just starting meditating,

Is there a way maybe you can tell them or share this in a way that I know maybe just like even steps,

You know,

What would be the steps?

You said quieting the mind,

That would be one step and then not waiting for it.

That's another step.

How do you kind of do that?

How do you quiet the mind and not wait for it?

Yeah.

I mean,

I think that quieting the mind needs to become a kind of a practice,

A regular practice that you do.

How do you go about that?

I generally like to practice in the morning at that time when I,

When depending on,

You know,

Where I'm at in life,

I might do it in the morning and in the evening or maybe throughout the day.

But in general,

I would say as part of a daily practice,

Waking up,

I like to,

You know,

Also do breathing exercises,

Kind of breath work to move the energy through my body.

I actually,

We learned some techniques this past summer.

So it's kind of part of like a morning routine.

I'm really fascinated by this inspired action.

I think a lot of people struggle with confusion,

Overwhelmment.

You know,

They don't know,

Like you did when you came back from New York,

You were stressed out.

Your bank account is depleting really,

Really quickly.

You didn't know how you're going to pay for rent.

You didn't have a car.

You didn't have a place to stay.

I mean,

You were staying here with me.

So that's a,

That's a very hard place to be.

And I think a lot of listeners,

They might find themselves in a position of a lot of uncertainty,

A lot of confusion,

A lot of overwhelmment.

And how do you go from that,

Which is a state of mind where you internally feel like I need to do something to get out of it.

But what you're saying is don't do something.

Sit and quiet the mind and then listen to that inspiration.

Yeah.

I mean,

If you're in that state of confusion and,

You know,

Overwhelmment,

What you're going to do is just going to add to that,

Is going to continue to add to that overwhelmment and confusion.

And because you're kind of reacting from that,

From that place,

What helps is to just apply self care,

Like basic self care,

Sleep well,

Drink water,

You know,

Gone.

I love going on walks.

It just helps me kind of some people love to run to clear their mind,

Just do the things daily that help you feel better and give you some relief from that chaotic monkey brain that you have going on.

And then there's also a level of faith and belief in yourself and that life is going to take care of you.

I've been fortunate enough to have kind of exercise that muscle a few times.

So I could call on those experiences and say,

Hey,

Remember that time,

You know,

You finished grad school and you moved to New York with two suitcases and it was during the financial crisis and people were like,

You're not going to find a job.

Are you crazy?

And you,

I found a job within a couple of weeks.

I had absolute belief that I was going to be okay.

And of course,

Even with that belief,

I still,

You still get the frantic thoughts and you still get the freak out moments,

But that belief was kind of like foundation.

I was like my anchor and I just trusted that it was going to work out.

And my friend and I,

I'm kind of jumping around,

But when I had moved to New York,

We didn't even have a going away party because we were like,

What if we come back in like a couple of weeks?

Like,

Hey guys,

You know,

Didn't work out.

So,

You know,

We didn't want to set us,

Set ourselves up for that,

But I,

I just kind of knew it was going to work out.

I just knew I was supposed to be there and it happened.

So when I came back from New York,

It was kind of similar.

You reminded me of it.

I was having a little moment of,

You know,

Internal turmoil,

But I knew what I was doing wasn't working,

You know,

Just applying for jobs I didn't want and not hearing back wasn't working.

And I was just adding to my frustration and I was spending hours and hours behind the computer going through,

You know,

Different job sites and kept sending my resume,

But I like had no desire to actually hear back from them.

And I'm not surprised I didn't hear back from them because I didn't want it.

So I think it's in those moments where you need to put to practice these tools that we learn in our spiritual path that it's,

You know,

You need to practice them while you feel good so that when you're not feeling great,

You can implement it no matter what.

We're not living together anymore,

But you came and we've been spending a couple of days here and it's been really nice.

We're on a retreat.

We're on a self-created retreat here.

But you were doing this exercise where you were sitting on the couch and meditating with your eyes closed and every few minutes you would get up and do something and then eventually why don't you explain what you were actually doing?

Yeah,

Sure.

So it's funny and ironic that we're talking about this now because I'm kind of back at that place in life where consulting has been awesome for the last four and a half years.

I've grown tremendously.

I worked for a small boutique firm for a few years.

I got acquired and now I work for a large global firm.

But I know my time there is coming to an end and it's time to move on.

But like when I moved back here from New York,

I don't know yet what that step is.

And I have to continue to maintain gratitude for what I do have because I have a very nice,

Stable career path with a company that really supports me and believes in me.

But at the same time,

I know it's time to move on.

But because I have been struggling with it internally,

Like nothing's really coming,

I decided while you were,

You know,

Ellie's like a working machine.

I mean,

This girl,

Like,

She's like the energizer buddy.

So while Ellie was working away,

Something told me,

Go sit and meditate.

And I had already,

You and I had already done yoga in the morning and we had meditated and gone on our walk.

But this was,

It was just that voice that go sit down and meditate.

And I and I did and spacing the the window with the sunlight coming in.

Then I just listened.

I got quiet and it said,

Get up and do the dishes.

And I was like,

What?

And then I'm like,

The dishes.

And so Ellie had made breakfast for us and dishes are sitting in the sink.

And I'm like,

Yeah,

Go do dishes.

She's working.

You're not working,

You know,

Like be of service.

Do dishes.

So I got up and I did the dishes.

And Ellie's like,

Oh,

I can do that.

I got it.

I got it.

And then and then as soon as I was done,

I went back and sat back down.

A couple of minutes later,

I'm like sitting there.

You know,

I'm like looking for inspiration.

I'm like,

All right,

What's my next step?

You know,

It's like,

Text your friend Jen and congratulate her on her new baby.

I was like,

What?

One of our friends lives in Texas.

And she just announced yesterday on Instagram and social media that she and her husband are pregnant with their third child.

I was like,

OK.

So then I got up and I like wrote her a really nice message.

And I said,

Happy New Year.

I'm so happy for you guys.

You know,

You guys know how that goes.

And then I'm like,

OK,

Go sit back down.

And I went and sat back down.

And I don't know if Ellie knew what was going on,

But like,

I did not.

So I sit back down and a couple of minutes later,

It says,

Go pick up A Course in Miracles,

Which is a book that Ellie and I have both read.

And I said,

Ellie,

Where's your copy of A Course in Miracles?

She's like,

It's on the windowsill.

I'm like,

OK.

So I go sit back down.

And I said,

OK,

You're telling me to open this.

So I kind of said a little prayer with it.

And I opened it up and it opened to page 333.

And if you're not familiar with the A Course in Miracles,

It's two parts.

There's a part with its text kind of explaining the philosophy and the spiritual work and then 365 days of lessons that you practice.

So on page 333,

This is a portion of the lessons that there's multiple lessons on a page.

So it's lessons 174 through 176.

The main point of the lesson on that page was God is love and so are you and to give is to receive.

And I'm like,

OK,

I have no idea.

That doesn't translate into a job.

You know,

Like,

I don't know how that works.

But notice how the thing about inspiration that I find really fun is that when you start listening to that inspiration,

The universe does have a sense of humor.

It's also clever and it's fun.

Sometimes you do things that you have no idea why you would do them in a million years.

You would never do them.

But then you feel inspired and you do it and it leads you into this other place that becomes it makes sense once you get there.

Yeah.

And that's part of trusting it is that it might not make sense in the moment.

But you know,

In hindsight,

When you look back,

Like,

OK,

Now I get it.

You know,

The reason I decided to do this today is because I've been again in a place where the monkey brain has come back full force and I've allowed it to kind of take over a little bit.

So I'm like,

You need to get better at listening.

I know my intuition is good and it speaks to me often.

You ignore it often.

I ignore it.

Yeah,

I do ignore it.

And then I'm like,

Oh,

Ha ha ha.

You told me to do that.

And I didn't listen.

So I wanted to use a couple hours today to get better,

Better at listening.

I'm like,

It's almost like,

All right,

Everything I've tried hasn't worked.

What do you what do you what do you.

OK,

I'll listen to you.

And it's it's,

You know,

Like it doesn't say I told you so.

That's a good thing.

Right.

It never it never will.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that that's where that practice was,

Was wanted to actually,

You know,

Take action on the little little things it was saying.

And I was thinking to myself,

I can live like this for the rest of my life.

Just sit down,

Close my eyes,

Wait for some direction and go.

I mean,

Imagine me in front of a client.

They're like,

So,

Nilu,

Like,

What do you think about the strategy for Medicaid next year?

One second,

Please.

She has her eyes closed.

She's meditating.

Take out the trash.

I wish we had that on video.

I know.

I know it's we're on a podcast.

You can't see.

But yeah,

I mean,

It's.

So I wanted to get better at listening again and get into that flow of act of taking action from that place of inspired action.

And so then Ellie had said,

I told her what I was doing and she's like,

Oh,

Well,

Tell me if it has anything for me.

And I'm like,

Ha ha ha.

No,

That's my internal voice.

I would have anything to do with you.

So then the next thing,

It's like,

Go watch a sunset with Ellie.

I'm like,

What?

I'm like,

Is this a joke?

Do you have hidden cameras?

Like,

How do you know that she asked that?

And so she's working away.

I'm like,

Ellie,

You know,

We got to go watch the sunset.

Let's go.

And she's like,

What?

I'm like,

Yeah,

It told me.

You and me.

Let's go watch the sunset.

So we then went for a really nice walk up a strenuous hill and watched the sunset.

And then there was there was another message.

So we're sitting and we're watching the sunset and it's beautiful and the sun has set and it's gorgeous.

And she starts laughing and I said,

What?

And she points to the sky.

It's like,

I'm not saying it because if I say it,

You're going to make me do it.

And this is what was said to her.

I am making it real by putting it in,

Putting words to it.

So now I have my fingers crossed,

Right?

It doesn't matter.

The universe doesn't care.

Yeah,

So we're walking,

We're sitting there and I and I'm like,

Fucker.

And I when I kind of set under my breath,

And she's like,

Did you just say fucker?

I was like,

Yeah,

I'm like,

Not you.

And I point up at,

You know,

At the sky,

My him.

And she's like,

What the hell are you?

I'm like,

It just told me something,

But I don't want to share it with you.

You know,

I was,

I know,

Ellie will hold me accountable to it.

So I was like,

I'm not telling you.

Anyway,

She got it out of me.

And it's like,

Been a year in service.

That's right.

Yeah.

And I'm like,

That's,

I was so mad.

I'm like,

Why?

What are you talking about?

A year service?

Like what?

I don't know what that means.

That's not a job.

That's not a career path.

So I was like,

What are you doing?

Like,

I think last week,

You were talking about like,

The GPS system,

Right?

And I'm like,

That's not a direct path to where I want to go.

Because I don't actually know where it is.

And it's like,

No,

Go this way,

Go around this crazy loop.

So I have to kind of figure out what that means.

What does a year of service mean?

And maybe one of the listeners will have an insight on that.

Our friend Deborah might be that listener.

Watch my kids for a year.

There's your service.

You're welcome.

Perfect.

Perfect.

Before we kind of wrap this up,

I do want to ask you a question.

I know when you feel separated from,

You know,

That voice,

That intuition,

And things can get pretty dark.

And I think we might have some listeners who maybe are struggling with a place of darkness.

They feel so separated from where they're going,

Where they are at,

That they don't feel like maybe even their lives matter,

Or they matter,

Or they're so confused or even discouraged that they might not see the light at the end of the tunnel.

And do you have any words of advice for them?

Because I know you've dealt with this in your own life,

And you've known people who have dealt with them in their lives.

You know,

What is it that has helped you come out of it?

And I'm talking about like depression and getting into your head,

You know,

In these kind of self-destructive ways.

What do you think has helped you and what do you think might help them?

Yeah,

I was waiting for you to say the D word,

Not darkness.

But yeah,

Depression is definitely something I've dealt with on and off in life.

And you know,

I didn't even know it was depression years ago.

Just knew I didn't feel good.

A couple of things.

I think for me,

What I've,

You know,

I was doing the exercise that you had put on Instagram last week about,

You know,

What is your biggest lesson learned for 2018?

And one of them was like what I was saying earlier,

A habit is something you'll build the more and more you practice it.

And whether that's a good habit or a bad habit,

It doesn't really matter because your mind is just taking in that information and building patterns and behaviors.

So just like you build a meditation practice daily or yoga practice daily,

If you are practicing these negative thoughts daily and leading to negative emotions daily,

That'll become your habit.

And then the person who was lively and energetic and soulful and happy is all of a sudden,

You know,

On the verge of wanting to kill themselves or,

You know,

Life no longer means anything or it's so painful to even be here.

So I think one of the things is if you've experienced that,

If you've been in that dark place,

You didn't get there overnight,

Right?

It comes from days,

Months of repetitive thoughts and repetitive behavior of like,

For me,

When I get into that place,

It's hard for me to even get out of bed.

And most people that know me,

They're like,

You're so energetic and you love hiking and you're like,

You know,

You're so like active.

But it's like a complete opposite.

I think this last round that I went through,

I saw it coming and I was like,

Oh,

I could feel it coming.

And it was very frustrating that even though I saw it coming to still end up,

You know,

In those low moments,

Because I had told myself I'm never going back there again.

I know you've been there where like you'll where we've all been there,

Where we know something is not good for us.

And we're like,

Oh,

You know,

Now that I know myself,

This is never going to happen again.

But it still happens.

It's like the most frustrating thing.

So I would say like,

If you see it coming,

It's so,

So important to just like more so than ever implement those positive tools,

Whatever it is for you.

You know,

Some people like they just need to be around others.

You know,

They like being alone is a trigger.

Being aware of the thoughts and not serving a tea when the thoughts come in that I read that somewhere and I thought it was brilliant,

You know,

Like positive negative thoughts come and go.

Just don't serve the negative negative ones tea.

Don't invite them in and let them sit down and turn on the TV.

And I love that.

And then I'm extremely fortunate to just have a lot of support from my family,

From my friends,

From colleagues,

From,

You know,

I see a therapist weekly,

Even if I don't want to be good to myself,

They kind of are there for me.

So that's been extremely helpful in those moments.

It takes level of vulnerability to ask for help.

In my worst times,

Like I'm I don't ask for help.

I kind of push people away.

I'm lucky that the people I pushed away still are relentless and they come back and they advocate for me even if I'm if I don't want to advocate for myself.

If you have someone in your life,

Whether it's a friend,

A colleague,

Someone else who's dealt with this in the past and is aware of it,

Of how what that feels like,

Let them know that you're you're struggling with it.

You don't have to kind of go through it all by yourself,

Even though that's more comfortable.

So before we log off,

I do want to bring one other thing up.

A year and a half ago,

You started a project called Thrive at 35.

So for a whole year,

You did something new every single week.

And you documented it and you made videos of it.

You learned how to create videos really,

Really well.

And you posted it on YouTube.

And I know I was one of the people I was always looking forward to what you're going to do next.

And and you inspired a lot of our friends to do the things they had put off for decades sometimes.

So can you share a little bit about that project?

Sure.

I had attended a Dr.

Joe Dispenza workshop in like January,

End of January 2017.

Wow.

It's a long time ago.

And he,

Dr.

Joe is a spiritual teacher,

Meditation teacher.

And in his workshop,

He was talking about how by the age of 35,

Humans in general,

We become so bogged down in our daily routines.

We don't try anything new.

We don't even give it a chance.

And because of that,

Life just becomes a series of routine.

And not only do you feel kind of stagnant,

But your brain actually becomes stagnant and your and your brain doesn't continue to develop.

There's a common like misconception that,

You know,

Our brains stop evolving at a certain age.

Part of that is because we become so set in our ways so we don't build any new neuro pathways.

And I remember we were at this event together and you turned to me and you said,

I don't want my brain to stop growing next to each other that day.

It was like a week long workshops.

And this was like first or second day that he drops us in.

And I was two months before my 35th birthday.

Yeah,

I turned to Ellie and I said,

I don't want I don't want that to be me.

And also,

A lot of them,

I would say about 70% of the folks at the workshop were older were like seniors.

I was very grateful that I was sitting there hearing this information.

And it was,

You know,

In my 30s still.

And regardless of what age you hear it,

It's,

It's really awesome information to have an act to act on.

But I was grateful that I still had a lot of life to live.

And when I got home,

I knew I wanted to do something with it.

And again,

Ellie's like my personal like,

I've like a therapist I see weekly,

But then I have like this like genie in a bottle,

Like just a rubber stomach and she comes out.

And she gives me like good advice and just hears me out.

So we sat down,

We brainstormed,

Like what that would look like.

And I knew I wanted to have new experiences,

But I didn't know what I didn't know what it was.

So initially,

I just did some things that Dr.

Joe talked about.

He said,

You know,

Just get out of bed differently.

Like if you always get out on the right side,

Get on,

Get out on the left side.

If you always go and like make your coffee first thing and then brush your teeth,

Like switch that up.

So I started doing that and I started brushing my teeth with my left hand,

Which was not good for my gums,

But it was good for my brain.

And I,

You know,

It would take different routes to work.

Like I,

At the time I was commuting down to Long Beach from West Hollywood.

So I would just take,

Take different routes.

I would stop at different coffee shops.

You know,

It wasn't always like amazing.

It was just different,

But I could feel myself kind of coming to life.

So then I said,

You know what,

My birthday's coming.

I'm going to go for this.

And I decided to do something new once a week and something I had been putting off,

Something people would recommend,

Something I was scared of doing,

Whatever it was.

And I wanted to share it with people because I wanted to take people along on the experience with me.

And I love that experiencing something with other people,

It's just makes it so much more rich.

And with Ellie's help,

For those of you that don't know,

Ellie also is a producer,

Writer.

She's just like super creative and knows how to do everything.

So she taught me how to edit a video.

And yeah,

So I started doing that.

I made a list of things I wanted to experience.

I hit most of that list,

But I also kept adding to the list as the year went on.

I was sharing these experiences on YouTube,

But I was also sending it out part of like an email list.

And the email list I built off my Gmail contacts and I had cleaned it up so that I wasn't going to like old previous coworkers or like people I didn't know at all.

But I still had about like 800,

900 people on that mailing list.

And randomly I would get emails throughout the year like,

Oh my God,

I love your episodes.

I'm like,

What?

Van Do,

I haven't talked to you since college.

I had done an episode on investing and financial health and financial literacy.

And he apparently also,

You know,

Is really into that.

And he had his own podcast and he wanted to interview the guy who was teaching me about investment on his podcast.

But he had been watching the episodes,

You know,

For like 10 months because that episode came like really late and I had no idea.

I mean,

It was crazy.

Then there was a woman who emailed me and she's like,

Oh,

I love your episodes.

I had no idea who she was like.

I was like,

What?

Eventually I figured out who she was.

She was a friend of a friend of a friend.

And now we are actually we know each other.

She knows you really well.

She knows me very well.

And our friend Deborah,

Who wants me to babysit for the year,

Her uncle David watched every episode and he was always commenting.

And he's like,

Oh,

This is so fun.

I love this.

And it was it's pretty awesome.

Pretty awesome.

And people were suggesting episodes that they wanted to do with.

No,

They people were trying to get me killed.

So like I had people like they're like,

Oh,

You should go bungee jumping.

Oh,

Have you gone?

No,

I would never.

That's scary.

Like what she did.

She did.

It's a hilarious episode to watch.

But what I'm saying is that people who were recommending some of these things,

They're not going to go bungee jumping.

They just wanted to see me go bungee jumping.

And I had I think I had a friend who said,

Why don't you go spend a night at Skid Row and camp out there for the night?

And I actually considered it.

I was like,

You know,

We volunteered at Skid Row before.

Why not spend the night there?

So it was just it was really interesting that some of the things people would say.

I had one colleague say,

You know,

Blindfold yourself for two days and just experience what it feels like to be not have sight.

And he talked about it so passionately.

I'm like,

Oscar,

You should blindfold yourself for two days and tell me what it's like,

Because like you obviously want to have this experience like and he did.

He's like,

Oh,

I want to.

But I don't know.

Like I don't know.

And write a novel.

Yeah.

My property manager,

I have no idea how he got on the mailing list,

But he was and he pulled me into the office one day and he's like,

Oh,

I love your episodes.

It's like you watch them.

OK.

And he's like,

I have some ideas for you.

I'll buy later.

And so I go and he's like,

I have two ideas for you.

And mind you,

These are weekly episodes.

I'm doing these every week for a year.

He's like,

Write a novel and run a marathon.

I'm like,

That is not something I can do in a week.

He's like,

No,

November is write a novel month,

Week,

Month.

What a rhyme.

What is it?

Nana Raimo.

Yeah.

So he he had written a novel before and he had also ran a marathon.

So he you know,

He had experienced both of those things and they were life changing for him.

And he was like,

You should do it because he wanted me to also experience that.

So that there was a lot of different things that people felt called to either tell me to try something they had already tried that they wanted to share with me.

People wanted me to try things they've never tried,

But I've been putting off.

People wanted to just see me do funny things.

You know,

I mean,

It was pretty amazing.

And my favorite episodes were those where I got to do do things with other people like my friends that came along for the ride,

Like my friend Kate,

Who came bungee jumping with me.

And I asked her,

I said,

Hey,

Do you want to go bungee jumping?

And she's like,

Yeah.

And she's like,

Buy the tickets now or else I'm going to change my mind.

And we went bungee jumping actually New Year's Eve Day.

Wow.

2017 turning 2018.

And there was about 50 people jumping and her and I were the only two people that hesitated.

Wow.

Yeah.

And she said that we we just had smarter brains.

It's not normal to jump off a cliff like that.

So,

But yeah,

I mean,

We both hesitated,

But we both did it.

So yeah,

And afterwards,

It just felt it felt pretty awesome.

Super proud of you.

So any last words for the listeners?

So this podcast is all about going inward tapping into that internal clarity and power that comes when you look inward.

Do you have any thing you would like to add?

Nothing that I don't think we've already talked about.

But I will say I mean,

She did not pay me to say this,

Guys.

But Ellie has a way of expressing the internal world that it makes a lot of sense.

And that's why I say she's like my my personal therapist,

Because like,

We're able to just kind of talk through things and she has this ability to stay calm and be objective,

Kind of tell you the truth,

Even though if you don't want to hear it or not,

I think anyone who listens to this podcast is extremely fortunate,

Because there's a lot of information out there about spiritual practice and spiritual work.

But I think Ellie has a way of communicating it so that anyone can understand and her way with analogies is pretty awesome.

So I think,

You know,

Continue to listen.

I have no idea what the next series of the podcast are going to be like.

I like the idea of having guests on.

So it's pretty awesome to like hear perspective.

I would continue to listen and reach out to her if you have questions.

She's offering,

I think,

One on one coaching sessions,

Which are priceless for anyone who's,

You know,

Maybe in a place where they feel stagnant or stuck or just not just that.

Maybe they just want to take their life to the next level.

That would be my advice is kind of tap into that resource.

I think that covers it.

Awesome.

Well,

Thank you so much for plugging me in your plug.

That did not come out right.

But if you are curious about that project,

That year long project,

Check out Thrive at 35 on YouTube and watch those videos.

Some of them are quite hilarious and a lot of fun and inspiring and awesome to watch.

There's I think you have a website associated with that where all of them are as well.

Yeah.

The website is called Thriving Ever After.

So if you want to give this a shot,

Just about a week and a week ago,

One of my sister's friends turned 40 and she's an incredible singer,

But she's been hiding.

And she said she told me that she was watching some of my videos and it inspired her to do a year of herself kind of becoming herself,

Becoming I am.

And so that was awesome because I that project has,

You know,

It's been over now for about eight months,

But to kind of have someone bring that up again and it's still affecting people's lives in a positive way is pretty,

Pretty awesome.

So I think it's a perfect way to get out of a stagnant place is to just invite and magic happens.

I mean,

I talk about this.

I did a talk with high school kids about how there's just magic happens once you tap into the wonder of the unknown.

Yeah.

So that's about thriving ever after.

Com and watch those videos,

Read about those,

Reach out to her.

If you feel inspired and maybe you want to collaborate on something and a Nilo,

I'm very excited to see how this year of service is going to pan out for you.

Oh no,

It's the spirit has spoken.

So we're excited about that.

This was a really fun episode for people to listen to.

So I hope you feel really inspired after hearing this and you're going to go and do your,

You know,

Project thriving,

Becoming who you are.

And if you are in a place of confusion,

I hope this inspired you to settle down and quiet your mind a little bit and listen to that inspired action.

And if that inspired action feels like,

Okay,

What do you want me to do?

I hope you,

You trust it anyways and wash your friends dishes.

I'm sure they appreciate it.

So until next week,

When we come back,

Check out peace unleashed on Instagram.

That's how I share my love notes with you every single day and check out peace unleashed.

Com.

If you have any questions,

If you want to work with me,

I am accepting one on one coaching clients at this point.

So if you are interested,

Reach out to me and I would love to speak with you.

So until then I wish you a peace filled week.

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