
Life Is A Drama: Play Your Role Well Without Attachment
by Ekta Bathija
In this talk, Ektaji reveals the secret of living in this world without getting involved in its drama! She explains how our Raagas (Likes) and Dveshas (Dislikes) are interfering with our happiness. She uses some Sanskrit words which are explained below: - Agami Karma: Future Karma (This talk was recorded in a session while interacting with the audience in a session.)
Transcript
We do in detail in Bhagavad Gita but I'll give you a little snippet.
This is relevant for all of us.
How do I do my action without getting attached to it,
Without developing a raga or a dvesha?
Every action can be done like a witness or like a total involvement as a player.
When you are playing what happens?
You are totally attached to it.
When you separate yourself out and observe,
Oh,
I am not the body,
I have a body.
I am not the mind,
I have a tool called the mind.
I am not the intellect.
It's the intellect that came up with this logic,
He is doing wrong and she is doing right.
I am not the intellect,
I have a tool called the intellect.
I am not the memory and above all I am not that ego that is getting attached in this particular whatever WCAF or that organization.
Ego was not meant for this reason.
Let me take a step back.
Who is taking a step back?
The ego.
The self,
The purusha,
The conscious.
That self,
That has to take a step back.
And play this like a game.
Just observe,
Witness.
I have a role to play.
Remember you had a drama to act in when you were young?
You were Ram or Sita.
You did your job perfectly well.
But you didn't forget that you are Kunti or you are Raj or you are Shravan,
Right?
You always remembered,
No?
You become Ram or Sita for the rest of your life after that.
You forgot you are Kunti or Raj or Shravan.
But this is what exactly happens.
That's exactly what we do.
You think you are Ram.
You think you are Sita for the rest of your life.
That is the separation we have to bring about.
Then only can I drop my future agami karma.
Again and again take a step back.
Right now my ego got hurt because she said this or he said this.
And this ego started playing this whole politics and this gymnastics.
I am going to stop this right here.
I am just going to be a witness to this action.
I am not going to stop the action.
Work must go on.
I am not going to get egoistic about it.
I am not going to get attached to it.
Just play it like that drama of Ram and Sita.
How you play.
Got it?
This entire path is going to take a long time.
You all went to school.
You did architecture,
Medicine,
Engineering,
Whatever.
How many years of education did you totally do?
13,
14,
15 years.
Yes.
Some did 16.
Some who did medicine in this country after coming back from India did 20 years of education totally.
You have taken that much 14 to 20 years to educate your mind to come to a level just to make money.
That's it.
There is really no other goal.
That was still learning.
Yes,
Some of them are still learning.
And now you are not ready to give enough time to spirituality.
You have to give at least that much time.
Ready?
Don't say I have already been here 14 years.
That's a new thing that comes up.
But 14 years you didn't make an effort.
Only at the conscious level you were educating yourself intellectually.
There was no application.
Again if you drop the application what will happen?
You will come back to square one.
Are you seeing this?
The application is important.
Not learning all Patanjali Sutras by heart.
That is not the point.
Maybe we should do whatever we want to do until we are 45,
50,
60 maybe and then focus the rest of our lives only to write off all the.
.
.
So sweet.
Okay I will tell you one.
You have education for 15,
20 years.
Then you have your Dharma for all the different things.
Then you don't have that much responsibility.
Then you don't have that much Raga or Dvisha.
So you can actually identify all of them.
Maybe that's why people get into spirituality later.
But that's the exact thing.
You are an IT.
Are you an IT?
IT has an old thing called a waterfall.
It's a waterfall concept.
You do everything,
Requirements and then this and this.
What is the new thing?
Agile.
Agile is iterative.
Everything happens in a two week stream.
There will be a difference.
Only I think you will understand I know that.
This is the best example I have ever heard.
Alitya,
That's all.
So I have a question for Shruti.
You were nodding your head when he was asking his question.
Why?
How should you adjust how you are supposed to do it?
Can you enlighten us how we are supposed to do it?
I think you have a better perspective than any of us here.
Because the whole point of spirituality is so that you can apply it to your life.
If you only do it when it's easy,
When you don't have responsibilities,
That's not the point.
The point when you actually learn it is when you are able to apply it when things aren't going your way.
When you have responsibilities and when you are busy.
Child teaching.
Wow.
For people on hangout.
Shruti,
How old are you?
16.
You just got that education from a 16 year old.
Yes.
This was very wrong in our understanding that I will start spirituality when I am 50 years old,
60 years old.
This has to be erased.
When you are 50 and 60,
Your mind is not smart enough to absorb this knowledge.
Your body is not strong enough to sit through this kind of tapas and meditation long enough.
It's like preparing for Marathon at the age of 60.
What's the point?
You have lost all that vigor,
That strength which you could have done earlier on in life.
And also you don't know if you are going to reach that age.
Exactly.
You may never reach 50.
You may be done before when you are in your 30s,
40s.
Absolutely.
So never wait.
How do you,
When you have to live in this world,
When you are living in a corporate world and a spiritual world,
They both don't go together.
Which path do you pick up that time?
Again I just answered it.
Separate yourself from it and do it like just a role that I have to play.
Really this is a role.
You think in this body you have been forever?
No.
You had some other role before.
20 years,
30 years,
40 years,
50 years,
60 years ago.
You were in some other role.
And you don't know 20,
30,
40,
60 years.
From now you will be in another role.
The role keeps changing.
This body is not I.
It's only a role I am playing.
The role keeps changing.
Recognize this.
Life is not just those 80,
90,
100 years that you live.
Life is a series of birth and then death happens.
Again there is a birth,
Again there is a death.
Again there is a birth,
Again there is a death.
Again there is a birth,
Again there is a death.
This entire equation from here to here till infinity is life.
Birth is not life.
Birth is just birth of this body.
I am not this body.
It's only a role I have to play.
When you recognize this,
There will not be any major attachments in life.
Very easily you just go through life.
One play,
You want this,
Take this.
You don't want this,
Okay let's not do this.
Everything will be very easy.
Life becomes easy for a person who is constantly in the moment.
Who drops raga and dvesha and becomes hollow like a flute.
Only when you are hollow like a flute can the music play through you.
God can play his music only if you are hollow like a flute.
If you are really stiff and consolidated and jammed with ragas and dveshas and hatred and fear,
How can that music play through you?
It's impossible.
Become hollow guys.
Become like a flute and then see that music play through you.
It's very easy.
The only thing you have to drop is the ego.
The false identification either with the mind or the intellect or with the memory or with this body.
Drop this false identification with all these.
Again and again recognize I am not this body.
I am just here to play this role.
I may not be able to see it right now.
Intellectually I may not be able to understand it.
It's okay.
I will take my time.
It's my journey but I at least commit to walk this path.
Can you do that?
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Maxine
August 16, 2025
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Joy
September 2, 2023
So much richness in this talk. Need to listen, time and time again as you are right, intellectually I do not understand it, yet! So grateful you have shared this Ekta.
Michaela
March 18, 2022
The perfect answer to one of the most complicated questions in Life!
anita
August 17, 2020
โHollow like a fluteโ, (Jai Krishna!) brilliant as usual. Thank you Ekta for your teaching.
L
January 11, 2020
16yo: the point of spirituality is Not when everything is going good; itโs for challenges and busy times
Kathi
November 4, 2019
Sweet! Namaste โค๐
Sarah
October 4, 2019
Thank you for this guidance. I love the closeness expressed between members of the group.
Sara
July 11, 2019
Okay being an instrument sounds better than being stuck
The
July 9, 2019
The body today is not me. Itโs just a rule I play until the next life. Brilliant! A useful mindset to drop attachments. Thank you. ๐
