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Cynthia Larson On Mandela Effect And Reality Shifts

by Amrit Sandhu

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Cynthia Larson discusses the Mandela Effect and the concept of shifting realities, using examples like changes in the Bible and other shared memories. She explains how collective observation can affect what we perceive as reality, drawing on quantum physics principles such as the Quantum Zeno effect. Larson encourages trusting our memories and recognizing that different people may experience distinct yet valid realities. Her insights challenge us to question the nature of reality and consider the possibility of parallel timelines and altered histories.

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The Mandela Effect,

It's got its name popularized from people noticing that Nelson Mandela was alive again in the 2000s.

Actually,

Art Bell noticed it right away in the 1990s,

I think.

He was noticing,

Wait a minute,

Nelson Mandela's alive?

And he was getting a lot of faxes and phone calls and so forth on his coast-to-coast radio show.

By the early 2000s,

Fiona Broom,

At some point toward the end of the 2000s,

She was at some sort of a science fiction conference,

Dragon Con,

And lots of people were there talking about it.

That's where the term got popularized,

Mandela Effect.

That's something that a lot of us remember happening back in the 1980s.

Specifically,

A lot of people remember 1987,

Nelson Mandela died while incarcerated on Robbins Island.

Yet,

Somehow he was alive again,

Which is what I would call it.

I call it the alive again phenomenon.

And then he went on to become president of South Africa.

Most South Africans don't really understand where people got that mistaken impression,

Because they were very closely connected with Nelson Mandela.

Of course,

He was alive in their reality with no discontinuity.

People who were just a little bit out,

Were not living in South Africa,

Then it's not in our focal point of interest.

So we're not kind of quantum Zeno effect locking in that observation by check,

Check,

Check,

Check,

Observe,

Observe,

Observe,

Observe.

That's how you lock a quantum system in place is by observing it so often that you lock it in place.

I was hoping you'd mention the quantum Zeno effect.

Sorry to interrupt at some point,

Because that also deserves an explanation,

But sorry.

Yeah,

It's huge.

That quantum Zeno effect can account for a lot.

It can account for why you might remember one thing while your friend remembers something else about your history from years ago.

And it's a good thing to do,

To ask your friends,

Do you remember this funny thing that happened?

When they don't remember it,

Or they've got a completely different memory,

That's a good thing for Mandela effect research,

Because it's showing,

I would say,

Trust your friend,

Trust yourself.

You don't need to start questioning everything.

I'd say,

Trust your memories,

Because what if you're both remembering perfectly valid,

Very different realities?

And that looks like the way humanity moves through these timelines,

That we're doing that all the time.

So the quantum Zeno effect enables some people,

Such as subject matter experts,

To be constantly checking a certain field of interest or facts within a field,

And kind of locking them in place,

Just the same way that we would lock a quantum system in place,

By observing,

Observing,

Observing,

Observing,

Kind of like you've got OCD,

Obsessive compulsive disorder,

And you're checking something so often,

That there's no way that it can possibly move.

And so,

If you've got someone doing that,

And then someone who's not doing that- You collapse the waveform into a particle.

Sorry,

I'm interrupting again.

Yeah,

Yeah,

Exactly.

So you can totally collapse the wave function into a particle.

And that was what we saw with that double slit experiment.

The diffraction pattern waves are looking at that wave function,

Looking at the wave-like nature of the particle.

Whereas,

If you had the particle detector within one of the slits,

And then you're seeing what happened on the screen,

It was acting like particles,

Little paint balls of splat were hitting the screen.

And the truth is,

Quantum so-called particles,

They don't want to be pinned down and always be particles.

If they're not being observed,

They'd much rather act like wave functions.

That's what's usually happening in our reality.

Reality is happening much more like a wave function,

And only when we stare at it and demand that it collapse and show us what's really going on.

We make that observation,

And we've got a memory.

Trust your memories,

Because that's what you're remembering,

And you're connecting with that timeline,

With that reality.

And if it's different than someone else's,

That's exciting.

Even it might be different than your own experience,

Because sometimes we'll notice that something that you remember being true now supposedly never happened,

But you know it happened.

And trust that too.

Document it if you can.

And this is becoming much more common.

So these are personal Mandela effects,

What I've been calling reality shifts.

And some people,

Like Mary Rose Barrington,

She was calling it just one of those things,

Jots and jottles.

She was tracking it much earlier in the 1900s.

I didn't know her at that time,

But she was collecting a large body of evidence to show that things appear,

Disappear,

Transform,

And transport,

Which is what I was calling reality shifts.

And she was calling them comebacks and walkaways and that sort of thing.

She had creative,

Colorful terms.

And she was a metaphysical researcher in the United Kingdom,

In England.

So she did quite excellent work and wrote a book about it.

Just one of those things.

It's great.

But basically,

That's just another lexicon,

Another way of describing the same thing that I've been asking people to talk about and share for 25 years,

Every single month.

And I've got a huge body of firsthand reports,

Which are part of that realityshifters.

Com archive.

So we can see it through that and also through asking yourself and asking others,

What do you remember?

And it's interesting because a volume of work is required,

And 25 years is a long time to be dedicated to something when you're challenging,

Because people don't really like their nature of reality checked in some ways.

It can feel quite ungrounding.

Yeah,

It can feel.

Yeah,

It's very disturbing,

Actually,

To see things change.

And people in the Mandela Effect community are often disturbed when they notice,

For example,

The Bible has changed.

Because something like the Bible,

You would expect it's not going to change.

It should be the Word of God,

For example.

So if you remember that some animal lay down with the lamb,

Maybe you remember what animal that might be that you remember.

I don't know the story well enough,

Actually.

Okay.

Well,

For a lot of people,

If I gave a multiple choice,

Which animal lay down with the lamb?

Was it a wolf?

Was it a tiger?

Was it a lion?

Do you remember any of those?

Do any of them sound right?

Or maybe you've seen like a stained glass window of some animal.

Maybe the wolf.

I'm jumping for a wolf somewhere.

Yeah.

Well,

The wolf is what it now has always been.

But a lot of people remember the lion shall lay down with the lamb.

And so that's what's weird,

Because it never was the lion.

And so the fact that there are stained glass windows,

And art,

And sculptures,

And statues,

And paintings,

And all that,

Showing the lions laying down with the lamb is a little bit nerve wracking.

Eerie.

And so people,

Yeah,

It's eerie.

And if the Bible is something you've been leaning on and trusting to be that Word of God,

Then something like that changing can be disturbing.

And then there's some new words that are showing up in the Bible that people say weren't there before,

Like unicorn,

Which I think is a good thing.

That's nice.

So that's cool.

And other people are noticing all kinds of Bible changes.

I'm just starting with the Bible,

Because a lot of people feel like that's just got to be straight out bad.

But there are researchers who say,

No,

It's not bad.

It's just showing us a new way to take a look at all of our reality,

Including sacred texts,

That maybe the most sacred thing of all isn't so much the book,

But the Word of God itself,

Which was supposed to be,

For example,

Jesus Christ.

We're finding that Christ consciousness in ourselves.

It's supposed to be within us,

Not just some words on a page.

So it can be okay,

Even in a very extreme situation like the Bible changing,

Which to me sometimes sounds funny.

I remember whenever two or more of you are gathered,

Then there is love,

Which is in the lyrics of the wedding song,

Whenever two or more of you are gathered in his name.

It's a beautiful song.

But it doesn't make sense now,

Because the line in the Bible has always been,

Whenever two or three of you,

Which makes it sound like you could start a whole church if you have two or three people.

Like there,

Your church is done.

You got two or three of you.

And to me,

It's hilarious.

You know,

Like what?

I thought it was two or more of you.

Anyway,

But it's things like that.

And I'm not picking on the Bible.

I'm just saying that that can be quite disturbing.

But actually,

All of the reality shifts can be disturbing if they're geographic,

If they're physiological,

Anatomical.

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