I'm having a hard time following about nature and mysticism.
What about it?
Let's see if you can make it more clear if I can.
Well,
I have not really had any of these experiences.
Most people haven't,
Though.
You're not alone.
But you can't have these experiences.
But it's very hard to understand them if you haven't.
No,
No,
You don't need to understand anything.
Once you have the experience,
You'll understand.
I would never understand this if you just told it to me.
I have to experience it so I can make some kind of.
.
.
So you understand how I don't understand.
Yeah,
So I totally understand you not understanding.
I don't see how anyone would really.
.
.
There's people who say,
I understand.
Yeah,
You understand it intellectually.
But it's not the same as having the actual experience.
So I don't expect anyone to really understand this unless they actually have the experience.
But again,
You've got to put in the work.
We're talking about years and years and years of meditation.
At least.
It could happen by accident or touched by grace.
But you've got to put in the work.
A lot of people are magical thinkers and expect that it's just going to fall into these states.
Yeah,
It happens for some people.
That's true for some people.
But for most of us,
We're talking about years and years of work.
Those nature experiences never even happened until five,
Six,
Seven,
Seven or eight years in.
That took a while.