We're calling on grace.
It isn't even calling on grace,
It's breathing grace.
Feeling grace.
Feeling your body as you're sitting.
Know that you are being held by,
You know,
Alma,
The universe,
The creator.
You are surrounded by beneficent energies who are helping you.
You are the creator in human form and you're waking up and that is as perfect as we get.
So rest in this,
Please.
Rest in this love that you are and that surrounds you and and keeps you,
You know,
Here on the earth,
Playing to learn whatever we're here to learn.
Okay,
Let's learn it.
Okay,
Go team.
So it's,
I originally was going to ask each of you your earliest dream that you remembered and what you felt is your greatest strength and what is your greatest weakness because I'm,
But I'm not,
I don't think because other things have happened.
But getting to know yourself is the most powerful thing you can do.
Getting to know you as a human being.
Right,
That is the key to the spiritual journey and this is the thing that often many of you trip over.
You know,
We are taught to to be objects,
Basically,
Be productive objects.
So coming back to get to know yourself is a radical act.
Yeah,
And you guys give yourself a bad time about the journey often and it is our time where we're conditioned out of our hearts.
So please don't take personally.
It's not a fault thing.
And we're just experimenting.
We've come at this time to,
You know,
Play and experiment and see what works.
You guys,
I had a conversation with a gentleman at the little fat thing that I was running here and it was so sweet.
He was,
He had some trouble with,
You know,
Feelings of being separate.
A little bit of,
You know,
Feeling a little lost and everything.
And he was talking about,
You know,
He prayed and he woke up a bit in the middle of the night.
I cannot really remember,
But it was something like that.
And he said,
You know,
What should I do?
And I went,
You're doing it.
It's like that.
That's just what it's like.
You go through periods where you feel separate.
You feel that maybe in every relationship,
As well as even when you pray to Amma.
You may not sleep well.
You may eat too much.
You might eat too little.
But it's like,
If you just keep taking this to the Creator,
Taking it to Amma,
Facing it,
Lying there,
Vulnerable,
Lost,
Afraid.
You turn and pray and you will be connected up with your soul energy.
If you are sincere.
So some of you are sitting in ambivalence.
So it's like you pray,
But you pray with ambivalence.
So it's not really an action at all.
It's an exercise in ambivalence.
So you could pray to come out of this ambivalence.
But the ego will try to keep you blind to your own ambivalence.
You see?
You know,
I want to put,
If you don't,
It's funny.
I just saw,
I just saw myself playing poker and having four cards and putting them down and going like,
Whatever,
I don't know poker,
But whatever,
Like the winning hand.
And it's around what I want to say to you,
But then I've just forgotten.
That's so funny.
I've just lost it.
It's this walk into integrity,
You guys.
This work is all about integrity,
Living the truth of your soul.
So you have to be willing to see yourself dispassionately.
And you see,
What can be a problem to Prama Sutta is people turn up for the satsang.
Sometimes they don't want to learn what Prama Sutta is teaching,
But they want the company and they want attention.
They want to join a club.
I've said this to you guys before.
And happily,
This is happening less and less.
You know,
Amma said that,
Just today,
She said,
Most human beings are living at 5% capacity.
And you see,
This is why we're so unhappy,
And why we're getting sicker and sicker,
Because if you're living at 5% of capacity,
That means that 95% of your capacities are not being engaged in a positive way.
So,
Guess what happens?
That energy has to go somewhere.
This is where disease comes from.
This is where wars come from.
It's where all the dark stuff comes from.
Because if you use your full capacities,
You just become very happy and very gentle,
And very love-powerful.
You know,
There's something bothering me.
With that poker hand,
There was something I really wanted to say to you,
And I could feel how totally in alignment it was,
And how it was going to sort of alter you,
And then I forgot.
Truly.
It's like it was blocked.
I can't.
It would end with something like little integrity,
But the words were a little different.
It's just humorous,
You see.
It's just human.
We'll get there,
Though.
We'll get there.
We'll just keep going.
Yeah.
You know,
What happens is,
As you step forward more on the journey in a way that I understand,
You will get more and more proof that the Creator exists,
And that you can tap into something that helps you.
You see,
Some of you aren't there yet.
You're so kind of ambivalent,
And kind of wearing dark glasses,
That you haven't even yet found that access to the Creator.
Yeah.
But,
You know,
Sometimes people have direct experiences.
Sometimes other people just sponge it up.
They're like sponges.
It just,
They don't have a particular experience,
But they notice that they're getting more comprehension,
And their lives are better.
Yes,
Some of you are like that.
Some of you are really getting the witnessing part.
You're really moving into being able to witness,
And it is just a wonder to watch.
It's like,
Really,
It is as exciting for Premasuddha as watching a little one learn to walk.
You know how excited parents get?
Well,
There is a joy that comes.
Yeah,
Right?
There's a joy,
Yeah.
Maxie,
Yeah.
Four of them.
There's a joy that comes with watching you guys get to the point of being able to witness.
Truly.
Because once you learn how to witness,
You can paddle your own canoe in a wonderful,
Wonderful way.
And not that you,
You'll actually end up getting closer to Premasuddha with being able to witness.
Yeah.
And Premasuddha will stop haranguing you about being in your ego.
There's a couple of fellows who I've been haranguing,
Hammering.
It's just around this,
About the need to really get integrity and understand that your ego will tell you your integrity when you're totally diluted by the ego.
When you move into integrity,
You will feel lighter,
Fresher,
Happier,
And more peaceful.
So,
Those are the,
Truly,
Those are the signs.
And you start feeling,
Oh,
I can do this.
Yeah.
But don't,
You know,
Don't give yourself a hard time if you're not there yet.
But you know,
You may be subtly doing it and you don't realize,
Or you may be trying too hard.
You guys,
I want to talk,
There are a couple of examples of,
That I'm wanting to talk,
And they're dear ones.
And I'm wanting to,
You know,
Think of God being a playwright.
This is part of learning how to witness.
But God is a playwright,
Or a novelist.
And,
See,
On the earth,
There are billions of plays going on.
And then there's a world play going on,
And a country play going on.
I want you to step back a bit from your normal viewpoint.
This kind of pull back into yourself a little bit.
Pull back,
Really,
Like physically inside yourself.
Pull back.
Yeah.
I want you to,
I want to talk about one really,
Really dear,
Very spiritually talented woman who came alongside me for about five years.
And she was very,
Very generous with her support.
You know,
Paid for my travel and everything.
And was incredibly sensitive to people,
And able to pick up information about them.
So she was an instinctive healer.
And she was so loving,
And she knew love was so important.
But she could not love herself.
So at that time,
And maybe this has changed,
But,
She could not love herself.
And that's why we had to stop working together.
Because five years had passed,
And there'd been a lot of change in her,
But this root of this refusal to love herself at a deep level.
So she would go through hard times,
And she would refuse to pray,
Or to take any action to help herself.
So think of a play where you have a spiritual student,
And they say they really want to know God.
I talk about spirituality a lot.
They read books about it.
They go see various masters.
And then,
You know,
Think of it like a play.
But then,
They go through these periods,
And they just lie in their bed,
Refusing to help themselves.
And so as a result of that,
They lose closeness with their teacher,
With the teacher.
So they set up circumstances that they get abandoned by a person who is bringing them love.
But they got abandoned because they refused to love themselves.
And because of this refusal to love herself,
She could not get access to the deeper knowledge.
She could not really know what I was talking about.
Right.
So,
You know,
Premasuddha has seen this kind of thing up close and personal.
And always for me,
It's like,
It's like as if the person seems to me a little psychotic.
Because I think it is psychotic.
A real,
It's a perfect example of psychotic.
Of a socially sanctioned psychosis.
To be a severe spiritual student,
Support the teacher,
And then refuse to connect up to the divine inside.
This is what's going on in some of you,
Too.
Some of the people I'm hammering,
It is what is going on in them,
Even though they might think that they're spiritual.
And I'm hoping that they will embrace the hammering and surrender to the creator within them.
Surrender.
And get really interested in learning how to walk the walk.
Not talking it,
Walking it.
And in,
For the ego,
There can be a tremendous feeling of lost control.
And this is what blocked this dear one.
She could not let go of control,
Even though the control had her feeling totally dark and abandoned.
You see how crazy it is?
This is why spiritual teachers,
People who are really awake,
Go,
The world's crazy.
There's another,
Another dear one I want to talk about.
And I'm,
I'm doing it because I'm,
I'm wanting you all to really begin to witness yourself dispassionately.
Get really,
Really dispassionate about what you do and your choices.
Like,
Look at them.
With dispassionate eyes.
Step back from your experience.
And really see what you're doing.
What happens is the ego keeps us asleep and it's,
Or it's our normal.
So we don't kind of question it.
We don't see it.
Even though the writing is right there on the wall,
We don't even see it.
Because it's normal.
It's like Amma talks about,
You know,
If you heat something slowly,
It,
It,
People get,
Or animals are like,
You know,
I remember once heating a,
Heating a shellfish on the stove and I was doing it slowly because I didn't want to hurt it.
Anyway.
Anyway,
It lulls you to sleep.
Just a little bit.
But it lulls you to sleep.
So we,
We get put to sleep and we don't see what we're doing.
Like this,
This dear one.
She couldn't see it,
What she was doing.
There's another one I want to talk about.
Again,
A dear,
Dear one.
And in this case,
There's a,
There's a bit of a serious illness.
And I talked to this dear one about,
You know,
The importance of waking up.
And he knows about my work.
She's heard me speak for years.
But she's always been quite ambivalent about it.
Interested,
But push comes to shove,
Not wanting to bet her,
You know,
Place her bets on it.
Not to live it.
And,
You know,
She has this serious disease.
And I got an email.
And I actually told her that the reason for this illness,
I felt,
Was that it was,
The issue was shame.
And it was bone deep.
And the problem was,
You know,
Her conditioning,
She needed to get past her conditioning.
There was heavy denial in the family.
And I felt the denial was still operating.
So she,
You know,
Listened to this.
I mean,
She's worried about her health.
I sent her five audios on WhatsApp,
Explaining what I saw and what I,
You know,
As I have done for years.
And so she sent me a very polite email,
Saying,
Oh,
That somebody in her family of origin was having a birthday lunch.
And she couldn't really manage the lunch and the satsang.
So she was going to the lunch.
And I went,
Oh,
Mama.
Think of the novelist,
Think of the playwright.
What's her choice?
Look,
There it is,
Her choice.
And she could have come to both.
And it was put also politely and like,
She even sent me a donation.
There was even a donation for the thing that she wasn't going to attend,
Blessings.
And I actually think with this dear one,
She's been in Allah's courts a fair amount.
And she knows very up close and personal,
The politics of wealth and power.
And that their levels that she lives in,
Like a king's court.
She lives in that kind of a world,
That kind of a feeling where,
You know,
You have to,
You can't trust that much.
And you gotta,
You gotta be wary.
And when the,
You know,
There might be all kinds of talk,
But money and power are it.
Yeah.
So,
You know,
I found this,
In a way,
Heartbreaking,
But it's what she's done all along.
Oh,
You know,
It's just when there's a serious disease.
And like I say,
You know,
That 5%,
I'm not saying we live 5% of our,
Or the normal person does.
So where does that energy go?
It goes into making disease,
Making mental illness,
Making arguments,
Making wars.
Yeah.
All this stuff is just the way it is,
You guys.
It's just the bottom line.
And we can put all kinds of pretty explanations on things.
And we can have all kinds of categories for all the things that are going wrong,
You know.
So there are endless categories for all the diseases,
And all the mental diseases.
And it's,
It's lack of love,
Right?
I mean,
Amma says that it's lack of love.
But you guys,
The thing is,
This kind of integrity,
It's like,
Nobody can do it but us.
We all have to save ourselves.
Nobody else can do it.
Nobody else can do it.
All a teacher can do is,
You know,
Express the love and pull you in closer,
Or push you away to let you know what you're doing.
It's,
You know,
We think of the spiritual journey,
We think kind of,
Sometimes we think our spiritual journey is sort of an option.
It's like a hobby.
It's like,
Not the main game.
The main game is to earn money.
Like I said to you,
I've often felt like,
I've often seen,
There's lots of energy about doing the thing we have to do to make money,
And not much energy around moving into truth.
And that's certainly true in our culture,
And less in all of you,
But some of you get stuck with the attachment to money.
And you know,
It's all understandable.
It's,
This is our time.
We're in a time like the fall of Rome,
And you know,
The fall of Rome,
If you read about it,
They were like,
Politicians got paid like 10 times more than regular jobs.
So,
The politicians,
Like you could make so much money as a politician.
So,
It was full of intrigue,
And murders,
And all kinds of horrifying,
You know?
I think,
I think we've got,
We've got,
You know,
The fall of Rome,
Plus the Old Testament of the floods.
We've got both.
It's like,
I think we should all be like,
Praying like that.
So,
I'm outlining this because it's,
I want you guys to really get dispassionate about your choices.
Like,
With this dear one,
And her choosing to go to lunch,
She gets her,
She feels attack very easily.
And she gets defensive very easily.
So,
That's part of why it's hard to find her.
Because what I'm saying is just love.
Everything I'm saying to you guys is just love.
It's all love.
Yeah.
And I'm talking this way because I'm wanting you guys to feel it.
And I'm wanting you guys to have the courage to think differently,
To face things.
Like,
I would like both these people,
If they listen to this satsang,
Think,
Oh,
She's talking about me.
Hmm.
What if what she says is true?
Because it is true.
You know,
It's not that hard.
It's,
You just,
You just decide to get real.
You just decide that there's no point playing any game at all in life.
It just doesn't work.
But you might as well just be yourself and listen to guidance and follow it.
And,
You know,
Get the support you need.
Like,
Get authentic support.
Yeah,
And do it.
And some of you really are.
And some of you,
You don't do it directly,
But you live very good lives.
Like,
It's sort of not your life to be self-realized,
But you're facing your problems.
You're open to guidance,
And you,
You follow it.
And you're,
You're,
You see that the problems are getting less.
You may not be feeling huge transformational energy releases,
Or you know,
Again,
Some people are sponges,
And they just sort of sponge up this knowledge.
And other people get it like a bolt of lightning,
And they'll get some experience,
Some physical experience of the divine.
And for both these dear ones,
They'd,
You know,
If they continue along the same way,
Nothing's going to change.
And maybe it's just meant to be a life like that,
You know.
I mean,
I'm really beginning to wonder,
You know,
You know what I'm really feeling?
That it,
It,
That we finish our lifetimes when our soul has had enough.
I truly,
I am feeling it's like,
When our soul gets really fed up,
We get steered off the earth plane.
You could pray for that,
Get fed up soul.
So,
There's some lives where we're just not going to be doing that.
But,
You know,
It really matters what we do.
So,
You know,
If we're living honorable lives,
And we're good to ourselves and good to others,
Then our circumstances next life will be better.
It just will.
Yeah.
I was sitting quite close to Amma,
And I had the thought of,
Oh,
How much she loves us.
And this is in the last week or so,
And she turned very subtly,
And I felt this communication between us,
Like,
Sort of like,
Oh,
You're getting it,
Finally.
But how much she loves us.
I mean,
She's here,
She's tireless.
She's,
You know,
She was talking,
You know,
It's the same as sitting near the friend that I've been,
You know,
It's the same squirmish with the people who sit right in front of her fighting over their seats and everything.
The stuff that she gets so cross about and everything,
They're still doing it.
But she was talking about,
You know,
Jealousy and,
Hmm,
You know,
We can feel jealous,
And she was trying to soothe the jealousy that some dear ones feel about attention going to other people.
And I was thinking,
Oh,
She's been doing this for,
Like,
50 years.
And she's still,
You know,
Dealing with the very human,
Our very humanness,
You know.
And actually,
Pramasutha felt a huge wave of compassion for her,
Just huge compassion,
Which is sort of hilarious,
Pramasutha feeling compassion for Amma,
But I can tell her that just was,
I just thought,
I just thought,
I just thought,
I didn't think I could do it.
I couldn't do it.
I'd be yelling at everybody,
Lecturing them.
My hat off to that woman.
Yeah.
You're all loved,
You guys.
I really want those couple of you,
I really want you to come into integrity,
Though,
And learn to witness.
And the thing is,
You have to love yourself enough to be able to do it,
You guys,
And that's the rub.
Okay,
Please hear that.
It is trouble,
When you have trouble loving yourself,
You have trouble witnessing,
Because the witnessing comes from your soul.
It's your soul that witnesses.
So you have to have let your ego die enough,
Die enough to be able to witness.
Otherwise,
You're going to circle in the ego,
And the ego will do a false witnessing.
And I know who can really witness,
Because when I speak with them,
I get a sense of utter sincerity,
And a deep clarity,
And a deep,
Deep humility.
And that humility comes because we witness ourselves,
We watch ourselves,
Do it yet again.
I think,
You know,
I,
In a way,
Like I want to throw cold water on.
.
.
I don't even want to say you guys,
I don't want to say that.
But I feel like I want to throw cold water on somebody.
Not you guys,
But on somebody,
To wake them up.
Just wake them up,
So that they stop talking so much twaddle.
I think twaddle is such a great word.
Twaddle.
I'm sure it's English in English.
You know.
Yeah.
Rather than just being very simple,
Very real,
Very matter of fact,
And see really clearly what you're doing.
There is another dear one who had an opportunity to come into the,
Her soul energy in her 30s,
She's in her 40s,
And it's coming again now.
And so I said this,
That it's coming again now.
And she'd have to say yes to it if she wanted it.
This woman has been on the spiritual journey and hanging around masters for 20 years.
And basically,
The answer was no.
She'll have to feel what that no feels like.
Okay,
Because she'll get an experience of what it feels like when you say no to the universe,
When it's a very direct opportunity to open.
It is extremely unpleasant,
You guys,
To be in that state.
And the unpleasantness of that state may indeed bring her to opening.
You see,
It's not solvable with the teacher.
It's not solvable through the head.
And that's where her no came from.
She didn't want to lose her head.
She didn't want to leave it.
And she basically wants the teacher to do it.
Her patterning is,
If she's a good girl,
You know,
Mommy will take care of her.
It's just not going to work.
There was no humility.
Underneath,
Many of us are running very deep levels of control.
Pramasutha found a lot in herself.
This is nothing that I haven't found in myself.
But underneath where part of us wants to stay in control,
No matter what,
Even if it's getting a little psychotic,
Like,
You know,
Living in an ashram,
Hanging around spiritual people,
And yet refusing to open.
Yeah.
And the results of that,
Like,
You know,
True realities,
True realities.
So if you do that,
You will get very unpleasant experiences inside and outside.
And then that can catalyze an opening,
A sincere opening.
You will get so uncomfortable that you just open,
You just surrender,
You just,
Oh my God,
Help me universe.
And then the universe will come in,
The door will open,
And you've got it.
You've got it.
You did it.
You see guys,
You did it.
Maybe she's going to do it.
It's that simple.
It's that,
It's that real.
Yeah,
Some of you guys,
You think true reality is,
It's a bit of woo-woo,
Like,
But it is what's running the show.
And it shows up.
It's just masked by the illusion.
Maya is a great trickster.
So,
You know,
We don't see karma,
Because it's so slow.
You do something when you're 20,
Maybe you get the results when you're 60.
Or in another life.
So it's hard to make the connection.
But it's in,
You know,
It is,
Nothing could stop,
Amma can stop.
She can reduce karma.
She was talking about that today,
Or the the guy who gave the satsang said that spiritual masters have so much positive karma that they lend,
They give us their positive karma,
And that's what neutralizes our karma.
Because Amma says she can lift up to 80% of our karma.
And the satsang guy was saying that it's from her earning so much,
Like being a billionaire,
Trillionaire.
So she gives,
She distributes the wealth to us.
You know,
In a way,
I'm wanting to,
In a backwards kind of way,
I'm wanting to reassure you of the reality of the divine and of this unconditional love.
I'm just saying,
Wake up and look,
Look at yourself.
It's passionately.
We get lulled to sleep,
Because say for Prama Siddhis,
In the old days,
I was Janet Hobbs,
With born of two parents and blah,
Blah,
Blah.
And like now,
I know that there is one soul and one soul is breathing all of you guys.
Do you understand one soul is activating your lungs and bringing your breath in and out?
Do you understand this?
And that Amma is breathing from that same soul,
Even though she's like 1000 of us.
Our one soul is breathing all of you.
And you,
Your breath comes,
You can't really control it,
You will take breaths.
If you try to hold your breath,
You can't.
Finally,
What happens,
You if you really have a strong will,
You'll faint.
And then you'll start breathing.
Because something way beyond you is breathing you.
It's something that you're not in control of,
That just loves you.
It just loves you.
But it's wanting you to learn.
It knows you have to learn.
So that's why you,
You know,
You get tough periods,
You have to learn,
But it loves you.
You're its beloved.
So our normal,
Everyday worldview of,
You know,
Say live in Canada or Germany or the US and we have to pay our rent and,
You know,
Whatever.
It's,
It's so not the main game.
The main game is what's breathing us all.
And what's,
You know,
What brings this universe into seemingly physical,
You know,
Solid.
What brings this universe into the form of matter.
But really,
It's soul energy,
Just with the vibration brought down,
So it's turned into matter.
That's you,
You guys.
That which is breathing you created this universe.
And Amma says,
And it's not just Amma,
Like all the Eastern sages say it,
That at nighttime,
When you're in deep sleep,
It dissolves.
Basically,
We're just in our soul energy,
The whole universe dissolves.
And then it recreates,
It's,
It's dreamed up again,
When we wake up.
And we think it's so real.
It's just illusion.
What's real is you are an eternal being.
And this is one of probably thousands of lifetimes.
And this is another reason why we can't judge ourselves,
Because we don't know all the material that we're coming,
That we're bringing from other lifetimes.
And if we understood all the perceptions that we'd had in these lifetimes,
And the reason,
Say,
Why we're scared of water,
Or why we feel threatened,
In crowded rooms or something,
If we knew all the reasons why we felt this,
We would have incredible compassion and self understanding,
We would understand ourselves,
And we'd feel incredible compassion for ourselves.
You see,
You guys,
Some of you,
You want to get the love from me,
But you don't want to get to know yourselves.
You don't want to learn how to bond with the Creator.
Some of you really,
It's it's a real battle with just wanting,
Wanting me to love your ego and not interfere with you.
Like love my ego and just shut up about your guidance.
Really,
This is what some of you are saying to me underneath.
And it's like,
Okay,
Hello.
Yeah.
So sometimes I make several suggestions and it's like,
You know,
Nothing's picked up.
And it's like,
You know,
The suggestions that I'm making are coming from the Creator,
It's not me.
But at the same time,
I don't want to be like a despot,
Like you don't have to follow if you don't want to,
But please understand that,
Witness that.
Okay,
This is what I'm talking about.
Witness.
Witness the fact that Pramasutra gave a direct recommendation,
Like I recommended to somebody last year to read Carlos Castaneda.
And it came to me again,
To read,
You know,
To say this,
Read the books.
So if he doesn't,
He needs to witness the fact that for the second year in a row,
He got the same guidance from a teacher that he says he respects,
And that he did not follow through.
Witness it.
Maybe I'm not as sincere as I want,
Not even trying a book.
Not even going like,
Okay,
I read 10 pages,
And I don't like it.
But I don't want to,
Like,
You guys,
I don't mean it like you have to do what I say.
But it's like,
Get that,
Where do you think this knowledge is coming from?
This is kind of it,
Like,
If you come,
Think of,
Do you come witness where you really think this knowledge is coming from?
Like,
If it's authentic or not?
So some of you are just sort of sit there in ambivalence,
And then just don't follow the guidance.
Like,
Okay.
Yeah.
So it's just kind of sad.
But again,
You know,
If something doesn't appeal to you,
Can't force it.
But I just want you to,
Like,
Wake up more.
Or,
And if you don't follow the guidance,
Then take responsibility for that.
Yeah?
Okay,
That was a guidance,
But I'm not going to do that.
Do it.
Like,
See it.
Don't just,
Sometimes I think everything gets lost in this confusing sea of fuzz.
You know,
Part of what,
In this situation with the dear one who's got this illness,
It's like,
She may feel ashamed when she listens to this video.
But the thing is,
If she learns to release the shame,
Like,
If she can learn to not,
To witness the shame,
Witness her feeling shame,
She can grow out of it.
She could grow out of this shame that she's carrying.
She could transcend it.
It's that.
It's often the cure is uncomfortable,
You guys.
This is something I really want to I really want you to get.
Often,
The cure for what's bothering us is as painful for a short period of time as the initial trauma.
Okay,
Please understand this.
There's a dear one who's been going through a very,
Very difficult time,
A real dark night of soul.
She's come out of it a great deal.
But it was the same,
It would have been at the same level as her initial wound.
You can't avoid this.
Okay,
If you're doing,
If you're trying to heal without feeling deep levels of discomfort or pain for at least a short period,
You can't really it doesn't happen.
It's like,
I don't know if this is what Amma meant.
So I can't say but Amma says that you have to use a thorn to get rid of a thorn.
And when the thorns out,
You can throw both thorns away.
See,
Our culture,
You guys,
We're taught to be so superficial.
Most of us,
Many of us,
Are not deeply bonded to our mums in any kind of way that would have been like ancient humanity.
It's the maternal bond right now is just so interrupted and discounted.
And it's almost like it's willfully interfered with.
Although I don't think it's a willful thing.
I don't think it's a conspiracy thing.
I think it's an ignorance thing.
If you can disrupt the maternal bond,
Then that's a pretty powerful thing to be able to disrupt and make shallow.
And this is what's happened to a lot of us.
So we're scared of our depth.
And all we know is going along on the surface of life.
You know,
All this stuff is healable.
And it's like what I said,
Like the transcendent body approach this,
If you pay attention to the aches and pains in your body,
That's what's going to facilitate getting,
Releasing these complexes.
And they release out in a very total way.
When they leave your body,
They're gone.
This is,
This is the good news of what I'm trying to communicate you guys.
It's all good news.
I mean,
Temesuta feels as light as a feather.
I really,
I'm running upstairs.
I feel like a million dollars.
I'm going to be 74 next birthday.
You know,
I look at the wrinkles.
I go,
I got wrinkles,
But I feel like I'm 30.
Life is good.
I don't want to,
I'm really wanting to encourage you to,
You know,
Find your balls and find your ovaries and step forward in truth.
And,
And be willing to,
Be willing to,
To see more,
Feel more.
You know,
When you're,
When you're coming,
When you're becoming less numb,
You will feel more and it will be stuff you don't want to feel.
But if you just feel it,
Feel it all,
Embrace it,
Just feel it,
You know,
See your mantra,
Eat chocolate cake,
I don't know,
Whatever.
You can recover yourself.
And you can live,
Like Temesuta feels like she lives,
She uses more than 90,
More than 5% of herself.
I'm accessing more,
More.
Yeah.
It's nice.
It makes you smarter.
Really,
You get smarter.
So you guys,
I want to say you,
You are doing nothing wrong.
Okay,
Please,
All of you.
You're not doing anything wrong.
I'm not,
It's not finding any fault.
This is self-realizing training.
So the end point is where you merge with your true nature.
So that means that over time,
Your ego has to go.
So you have to be able to see your ego and know what it is.
Because many of you just think you're your ego,
But think your ego's you.
It's not.
It's not at all.
You're so much better than that.
Right,
And it's funny teaching because I wish in a way I could just take you on a like a pleasure boat,
You know,
Go down the river and you do wine and treats.
Really,
I'd love to.
It's like I don't want to upset anybody.
I don't want to rock the boat,
Really.
I just want you guys to be happy.
But it's like you can't really be happy until you find yourself.
You know,
There are some people who are very aligned with their soul,
Even though they're not spiritual,
But they're actually doing their own real work.
Yeah,
And they're actually living from a deeper spot and part.
You see,
You can't.
Yeah,
So I had quite a reaction to this dear one who who has this illness and didn't come to the satsang,
And I when I was I went to afternoon meditation and I was uncomfortable about it.
And then during the course of the meditation,
I had a shift and yeah,
I accessed a kind of like a pure light,
A pure,
I had kind of an experience.
Yeah,
So that's all we can do,
You guys.
That's all we can do,
You know.
I mean,
I was worried about this,
Because I'm concerned for her.
I love her deeply,
And I'm concerned for her.
And I'm concerned that she seems to be willfully staying so asleep.
It doesn't scare me,
But it's like what we're like sometimes,
You know.
It's like,
You know,
We have to really want to wake up and we have to really want it,
You guys.
Otherwise,
It doesn't happen.
Yeah,
This is the rub.
It's right here.
You have to really want it.
And some of you play around the cusp,
And you know that,
Right?
You kind of want it and kind of not.
It's kind of like,
Well,
What am I going to have to go through?
It might hurt a lot or,
You know,
What's going to happen?
It's like,
Well,
You can keep staying asleep,
And you can hold on to what you know,
And we know what's going to happen,
Which is if you hold on to what you know,
You will end up losing it.
That's what happens.
There's a Christ as an expression.
He who loses his life for me,
You know,
Keeps it.
And he who refuses,
Who holds on to the old,
Will lose the old.
I sort of don't know,
You know.
I really love the satsangs and everything,
But I think about,
You know,
Abraham and studying with him and living on the land and doing this dance and everything,
And everything was very organic.
You know,
I mean,
Satsangs with the Zoom,
We can't really be organic.
It's kind of,
We just come together.
There's another thing I want to mention,
Which is,
When I look back,
It was Pramasutra,
When I studied with Abraham,
Okay,
I wasn't,
I left the normal 20th century,
21st century energy,
And I moved into ancient humanity energy,
You guys.
And I did this in my 30s.
And it was a real shift.
And it was a real shift into that energy of being and doing from being.
It was an energy that put the heart first before the head.
And then I walked into a tremendous conflict with,
When my ego would come back up with trying to reinstate the old ways,
But I'd found this peace in the ancient energy,
I didn't want to leave it.
So I would go through these battles,
And gradually my heart got stronger,
And the light got stronger.
But,
You know,
You guys,
Some of the ancient,
You know,
The movement,
Like doing,
Getting fit,
You know,
It's like I say,
These half hour of resistance exercise,
I'm so fit.
I'm amazed that just half an hour of these exercises has made such a difference.
And,
You know,
Maybe setting up,
Going for long walks,
Or hikes,
Or,
You know,
The Camino Real,
Like whatever,
You know,
Go up a 2000 mile or kilometer journeys,
Stuff,
You know,
If you can do some wild stuff that gets you right out of the normal.
So you can,
So you can access the ancient humanity.
But you know what,
You guys,
If you ask,
If you pray for the energy of ancient humanity to come through to you in a seamless,
Seamless,
Very constructive way,
It will start.
Okay?
I promise it will start.
If you stay on it,
And look for signs that you're doing it,
And bring in some prolonged physical activity of some kind.
Truly,
That will do,
In my experience,
This will,
It's a quick,
It will save you some years of meditation if you do this.
This was Premasuddha's way.
And play with it.
Play with it.
And the more sincere you are,
The more it will work.
The more,
Like,
Conflicted you are about doing it,
The more you'll have to,
You'll be brought to the conflicts.
What will happen is,
If you say,
Okay,
I want this ancient energy,
The first thing that will happen is the,
The ego,
The resistance to it will,
But if you keep,
Just keep talking to Amma,
Talking to the creator,
Keep,
Keep saying,
Show me,
Show me the way,
Show me the way,
It will eventually clear.
Yeah.
You guys,
If you stay with the prayer,
And you keep at it,
And you keep praying to become more sincere,
More true,
It will happen.
But what will happen first is the obstacles to that,
So you'll have to start facing your walls.
There's a couple of you who have gotten very good about facing walls.
Some of you have had quite a lot of walls,
And there's huge movement,
Some of you,
With this.
Like,
I'm gobsmacked at the,
Really,
At what you've had.
And some of you just need to say,
Me too,
Me too,
I want this,
I want to really wake up,
Me too,
Me too.
Yeah.
I remember that dear one,
Who was like,
Said,
Like,
Well,
I had this,
You know,
I've been feeling lost and lonely,
And I had a bad sleep,
And you know,
So I just prayed,
What else should I have done,
What should I do,
And I went,
That's it,
You feel lost and lonely,
And you pray,
That's it,
That's what Prama Sutta did for years.
My body ached,
I pray,
Feel alone,
Pray,
And then I followed the guidance that came,
I followed,
Like,
The guidance that came inside,
From inside me,
And also the guidance,
Like,
From teachers that felt good.
I feel a shift in the group,
And hopefully,
If these dear ones are reading it,
Or listening to it,
That will affect them too.
I feel a shift in the group,
Like,
An opening,
Yeah,
Around,
Just an opening,
It's like,
Around your hearts,
Your backs,
Yeah,
And I feel that you're not arguing with me,
Right,
That's it,
Yeah,
And just go me too,
And just,
Just do your best with it all,
It's just experimenting,
Do your best,
But I'm,
I'm feeling this,
How is everybody feeling,
Are you feeling this at all?
Or is it,
Yeah,
You guys are,
Okay,
You're,
You're feeling it,
Okay,
Good,
Good,
Yeah,
Okay,
Good,
Yeah,
Because I,
I'm,
Yeah,
And if you're not feeling it,
You guys,
Don't worry,
Because it's there,
It will come into your consciousness when you're ready,
You will get it,
I promise you,
Yeah.
That's it,
Good,
So,
Opening,
Now,
Remember,
When you,
When you open,
There will be contractions,
The uterus opens and contracts,
Opens the cervix,
Opened,
Contracts,
Open,
And then,
Finally,
It's still open,
The baby's born,
Finally,
We're through our contractions,
And we're open,
And we have a big birth of a new perception.
Right,
But when you get stuff physically,
Like you're getting it,
You can feel it,
When you get it physically,
That is embodying it,
You see what I mean,
When you get it physically,
You're doing it,
You've shipped it,
I,
I'm going to say,
I promise you,
I sound like a used car salesman,
But it's true,
It's kind of like,
Yeah,
I,
I'm responding to sometimes,
You guys,
Like,
You're like,
Look,
It's,
Is it really true,
Is what you're saying really true,
And when I feel this,
Sometimes I start saying,
Yes,
It's really true,
And then,
I start to,
I'm the salesman,
Because it is really true,
Any physical,
If you get a shift in your body,
You will notice,
In the next couple of days,
You have,
There's a change that happens,
Either you'll have a wonderful encounter with somebody,
Or somebody says something,
And then,
You'll get an insight,
You see,
It's,
It's like,
What you're feeling physically,
It's like your blueprint,
There's a change in your blueprint,
And you will live it out,
And that's why working with the body is so safe,
Okay,
That's very beautiful,
Okay,
And there's interesting,
There's a feeling of more security,
And more safety,
And you guys,
You know what,
I knew this would happen,
Because I've had several breakthroughs with Amma,
Like Pramasutra,
His,
Had some massive experiences of,
I knew it would translate to the sat thing,
That's it,
Funny,
It's like he feels more secure and held,
It's Amma,
It's all Amma,
She's doing the whole thing,
Oh,
This is so rewarding,
So you guys,
In,
You know,
In the coming weeks,
At some point,
I will ask you about,
You know,
What your early dreams,
Or what you think your strength is,
Or weakness,
But I don't want you to,
Like,
I want you to think about it loosely,
And just be as simple and as childlike as possible,
Don't,
Please don't,
Don't doll it all up,
And make it all,
Put icing all over it,
Just be real,
Yeah,
Yeah,
Yeah,
Your first dream will tell you a lot about the first,
Or it doesn't even have to be the first one,
Whatever dream comes up,
It will tell you a lot about,
Really about,
About your psychology,
And if you understand your psychology in a felt way,
You can transcend it,
It's when we don't understand ourselves,
But once you understand yourself,
Then you,
You know that your thoughts are faulty,
And that you can be tricked by your ego,
You know,
So you get very open to what truth really is,
As opposed to the gruel that your ego is feeding you,
You no longer could believe it like you used to,
You know,
It's probably got worms in it somewhere,
Some distortions,
So you don't hold on to it so tightly,
Yeah,
You guys are about to get overloaded,
So questions,
Any questions,
Or,
Yeah,
Okay,
Who's that,
Oh that's Barry,
It's me,
Oh Barry,
Okay,
I've got the phone,
So I can't see you,
Yeah,
I know,
And I've turned off,
I don't have my video on,
Hi,
I just,
So I just wanted to say hi,
And yeah,
Because I'm having a hard time,
I resonate with a lot of what you say,
But I'm one of the ambivalent ones,
Yeah,
You know,
Yeah,
Oh anyway,
I just,
All I wanted to do was be able to say hi,
Almost,
Yeah,
As a start,
Yeah,
How about be loved,
Okay,
Yeah,
Because everybody in the group knows what that feels like to,
This is the fourth year or something,
You know,
The first three years,
Nobody spoke,
Or first two years,
Nobody spoke,
Barry,
So don't worry,
You're right on track,
Well,
I've been crying some,
I just want to say something that was interesting,
Last night I was talking to my family,
My dad has full dementia,
But all he was doing was laughing,
You know,
Like it took nothing,
And he was cracking up,
And I was kind of like,
Wow,
He's in a peaceful place,
Kind of,
That's so cool,
It's like that,
Oh my gosh,
He's like,
You're cracking me up,
And I just thought it was so nice to be in a childlike way with him,
So easily,
He's so undefended anymore,
Right,
So maybe that's,
You know,
So you were getting a picture of that,
Yeah,
I don't,
I wouldn't want to be in,
Like,
What's happened to him,
But he's definitely not,
I don't think,
Suffering,
Just,
Yeah,
Anyway,
I'm just babbling,
Really,
But,
Okay,
Well,
Many blessings,
What's that,
Many blessings,
Many blessings,
Sweetie,
Yeah,
Okay,
I don't want to get off yet,
But,
No,
We're not,
We're gonna,
Most people maybe are gonna come forward with some commentary,
Or a question,
Or,
Yeah,
I just know that I'm scared to let go of the old,
Because it's telling me that it's,
Oh,
Go ahead,
Yeah,
Of course,
I mean,
I think everybody is,
And my biggest fear has been death,
But I also know that that means fear of life,
Really,
I think,
Yeah,
You know,
And,
Because,
Back to,
You know,
Prayer,
See,
Nobody can do it for us,
It's good to come to sad things,
And then pray,
Really,
Okay,
Yeah,
Yeah,
Okay,
Thanks,
Gary,
Is anybody else got,
Thanks,
Sweetie,
Anybody else,
Michi,
Coming forward,
Yeah,
Hi,
Everybody,
You've been talking about giving birth,
And I want to share a situation of last night,
I had intense pain in my belly,
And it was similar to the pain of giving birth,
It was not that intense,
But it was very similar,
And had some kind of feelings of loss and fear,
And it was a very hard situation for me,
I didn't know where the pain come from,
Where the pain come from,
And at the end,
It was very peaceful,
And it was kind of a feeling of relief,
But I don't know what it was,
So maybe you have any,
Yeah,
You know,
You guys,
This is the kind of thing that can,
I mean,
You know,
You could,
You know,
You could get it checked out,
You know,
If you're concerned about it,
Don't really,
But the thing is,
This is what happens with transformation,
Okay,
This can happen exactly like this,
Where you're actually letting go of complexes,
Sweet one,
Yeah,
It's the complexes,
And you're,
You feel the,
You can feel the pain of it physically,
This would happen to Premasuddha,
And my body,
I would feel the pain,
And then I would just go through it,
Like what you're talking about,
And it would,
It would be over,
And it's like,
But sometimes it lasted a while,
Like I told you,
I walked around for three months with pain in every single joint,
It was terrible,
But it was just resistance clearing,
So I think this is real feminine stuff clearing,
Real,
Like,
Tight,
Feminine stuff clearing,
So that you can be more in your true,
Truer feminine,
Truly,
The feeling to get from it,
And the fact that you were brought to more peace,
You see,
There it is,
Don't argue with it,
Not that you were,
Sweetie,
Not that you were,
But it's like,
There it is,
In its sweet simplicity.
I did this in spades,
This is where this work comes from,
That's why I talk about the body approach,
This is the kind of thing that happened to me,
And I go,
What is going on,
And I'd feel lost,
Afraid,
Lonely,
Not know which way's up,
But I just keep going,
So how do you feel when I say that?
Yeah,
It was amazing,
Yeah,
I felt it was connected to some female stuff,
Because the pain was not so intense,
But this whole giving birth to it,
It resonates,
Yeah.
Yeah,
And giving birth to this more truly feminine energy that's wanting the rise of the feminine,
Yeah,
To the real feminine coming in.
Now,
So many of us,
You guys,
All of you women know,
And you guys will know it in your women too,
We get so boxed,
And tight,
And self-questioning,
And self-dissing ourselves,
We can't express the real feminine,
We just get trapped in this kind of head-based feminine that our culture teaches,
And this kind of body pain you're in,
And also,
Lolita,
What you have just went through,
This brings you into more ancient humankind energy,
It's the result of it,
It's where it takes you.
Okay,
Thank you.
It's way more fun,
You guys,
When you bring in this ancient energy,
When you allow it,
Life becomes so much better,
So much better,
So much happier,
Simpler,
More powerful,
You become more powerful,
You don't put up with baloney.
Yeah,
I corrected myself,
Yeah.
Yeah,
You just become real,
You can just be yourself,
It's nice,
Right,
And all of you guys,
All you women who come,
You know,
It's in you,
Because you wouldn't be here,
You wouldn't be attracted at all to this,
If it wasn't wanting to be born,
Yeah.
Yeah,
And I know,
Michi,
You can feel like you're a hard case,
But you're not.
You're very,
Very sincere,
And you have made so much progress over the last year,
Like it's gobsmacked me.
Thank you.
Oh,
I mean it,
From the bottom of my heart.
Yeah,
Because I know how uncomfortable this progress can be,
And you're doing it,
But it's,
Life gets better.
You know,
As more women are waking up and it becomes more the norm,
It'll become easier,
And the men will be happier too,
Because you know,
We'll be able to express our true feminine nature,
It's not our trapped,
Unhappy,
Tortured version.
Really,
A modern woman,
You know,
We're tortured,
We're really tortured.
We're in pain.
I'm also feeling this,
As if there's been some wonder being released,
As if,
Again,
I feel it for the whole group,
That there's going to be like a sense of wonder you're going to get more access to,
Just a sense of wonder,
The wonder of life,
You know.
It's all very hopeful.
Any other?
Questions,
Comments?
And if you're being hard on yourselves at all,
Please,
Please don't be.
I don't want that.
I don't want that.
I just want to shake you awake,
That's all.
That's all.
Because sometimes,
You guys,
Your heads can be so,
Keep you so deluded,
And you can't see how deluded you are.
But even with this,
I can feel that,
Even that feels like the delusion is lifting,
That even the,
You know,
The ones where I feel like you fool yourselves a lot,
I feel like even that is getting less.
I think there's a big power from Amma coming in today.
I just feels like,
Huge.
Yay,
We need it.
We need all the help we could get.
Remember,
It's praying,
Feeling heavy some day,
Keeping praying,
You know,
Keeping a journal,
And then praying with real sincerity,
And slowly things get better.
And you get more light in your life,
You feel it,
Feel light coming in.
That's it.
So,
This is,
This has been a very exciting session.
Like,
What's exciting me is the hugeness of what I feel going on with you guys.
How much there's a,
Letting the penny drop a lot more.
I'm really grateful about that,
You guys.
Really hugely grateful.
I'm incredibly grateful you guys turned up.
Yeah,
And that you're so open and you let me go after you sometimes,
And you still stay open.
That's huge.
That's huge.
And it,
Um,
It's the best indicator of progress.
Like,
It means that you will make progress,
If you can do that.
Let yourself get hammered,
Listen,
Let yourself get hammered,
Think about it,
And allow change to come at a rate,
At an organic rate.
Not trying to fix yourselves.
It's when you hear the truth,
It changes us.
When we hear the truth,
It changes us,
You guys.
We don't have to put a lot of effort in.
You change.
You hear it,
You go,
You shift.
Right.
Okay.
All right,
You guys.
Well,
Last call.
Okay,
There's,
Remember,
There's no satsang next week,
But it's Easter,
And it's resurrection time,
You guys.
Think of it like resurrection time.
You know,
We get focused on the crucifixion,
We forget about resurrection.
Maxie was telling me that she,
When she heard the word resurrection,
It made her so excited.
She got a big light feeling from it.
Yeah.
Okay,
You guys.
Know you're loved,
Know you're prayed for and held,
And that if I'm hammering you,
It's because I love you so much,
And I'm wanting you to taste the sweetness of your own soul and not get caught in your head.
Yeah.
And there's nothing sweeter than soul energy.
And you'll know it when you get it.
You'll know it when you find it.
And it's unmistakable.
Yeah.
Okay.
Bless your dear,
Dear hearts and may I do I actually pray for this,
For Amma to lift all your problems,
To lift all your any ill health,
To lift it all off you.
I do.
Okay,
You guys.
Bye.