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The priestess,
The goddess and the witch.
This could easily have been the alternative title of the conversation I had with shamanic priestess Alex Vitilo.
Alex will explain clearly the difference between the terms,
What conceptual differences and similarities I may add,
But she will also explain terms that I was unfamiliar with until I spoke with Alex,
Such as quantum flow,
Such as soul contracts and what is a heart centered entrepreneur,
How to recognize one and what do they do for the betterment of the world.
This is a very interesting part for me,
Someone who has worked with ethical businesses before and Alex makes it really clear this goes beyond ethics,
This is about working actively for the betterment of the world,
But doing it from the point of view of an entrepreneur and that's what I love about Alex's approach,
There is this fusion between her spiritual side,
That as a shamanic priestess,
And the use of energy and the use of quantum flow and soul contracts and the spiritual terms on one side and on the other side she talks about money and wealth and she speaks in a very direct and clear way about it.
And isn't that what this world really needs,
A bit of a more spiritual approach to things that we consider materialistic.
After all we live in a world that some may consider to be a little bit heartless of soul as well,
There is Alex bringing very much needed heart and soul into this world.
Hello Alex,
Good evening,
How are you?
Good evening Costas,
I'm very good thank you,
Very excited to be here with you and your audience.
I'm completely excited to have you again,
I mean we've spoken before obviously in the context of my sort of the interviews I was doing in the Facebook group and that's how the podcast idea has evolved and you were such an interesting guest and I thought well we need to renew our conversation right because there's so many interesting things to talk about and so you know how have you been recently in the last,
I guess it has been a few years since we've spoken or at least one year?
It's been at least one year,
Things have evolved for the business,
For myself as usual I think,
You could say that and being really really good,
Thank you.
Excellent that's good,
That's always good to hear and I mean I recall and I just checked by the way to make sure you still call yourself that,
You're still a shamanic priestess right?
I am still a shamanic priestess exactly,
I've done some more expert trainings in sacred money archetypes,
In money breakthrough for women specifically and as a quantum flow practitioner so I keep on mixing the well-being with wealth.
Right okay so we'll get to that later because I'm interested to hear more about this idea of quantum flow because you mentioned that in your some of your videos but let me start with a controversial question first.
So shamanic priestess which is that the same or is that the different thing?
Oh this is a very interesting question Kosta,
So when people ask me you know people tend to say where are you from and you would say I'm Italian,
French and Greek and I say I'm a third witch,
A third goddess,
A third fairy and all mixed in as a priestess.
These slightly different energies and every one of these you could call it label,
You could call it energy,
It's just a different slight of energy very much related to the feminine all of them and yet they operate in slightly different ways.
So a priestess is somebody that holds the light that creates a container for transformation to happen and in a sense when you are in that container the work is mainly done by the priestess and the client have the transformation almost by osmosis.
The goddess part is more of activating the power I say that you have within you so it's a lot easier to access rather than it takes some training to hold that light as a priestess and the witch the same you need some training but it's more oriented towards working with the elements,
Working with the earth and the fairies it's more about working with the magical realm so it really depends what you want to activate and how much you want to dedicate to that energy and that training.
It doesn't happen overnight there are gifts involved and yet I say even when you're gifted whatever your gift is it's good when you practice in integrity you train and you spend a lot of dedication,
Commitment,
Energy,
Time,
Slash all of these things in making it better and better for yourself and your clients.
Absolutely yes so there is a sort of similar energy from what I understand behind the words but there are some distinct differences depends on the task depends on what you want to achieve and mostly how you want to achieve it I guess isn't it that's where the difference lies.
Correct,
Correct.
Yes okay so I guess something that I'm most interested in is how people define their clientele their ideal clients because we all work with particular types of people right and we want to attract them and that's what we do and I'm calling here from your website you say you're working with heart-centered entrepreneurs how would I recognize a heart-centered entrepreneur what is one?
So for me I don't need to recognize me they recognize them they recognize me so once I've got the clear vision of who can I help the most and it took me a while this was for me in the business one of the most challenging things to be clear on who can I really help and support and also do I make the message clear for others to be able to identify and to say okay Alex is the best person but once that was clear in my head and then people started to come an art center to me really means that they're here for the betterment of the world they're here to open their heart and to say okay I'm gonna do things in a different way which is not only what you can get from something from your business from your clients but I can also give to the world so it's a much broader scope of what are you creating through your business and like I said people are gonna feel that cold they're gonna come to me and they may be on the surface very different type of clientele and they may be doing things very differently as well some of them might use the word spiritual some of them might use the word meditation some of them may use the word mindfulness some of them may use no words at all and have no interest in those so-called worlds yet they want the betterment of the world and they're prepared to work if you look at energy with a bigger energy that it's bigger than themselves and to say okay there's a part I can do and there's a part that will be guided and that will tap into those tools that energy and Alex is going to help me do exactly that.
Okay so when you use the term you know people work for the betterment of the world I mean does that fit with the term I hear sometimes you use the term ethical is that what we're talking about or is that a bit too limiting for what you are describing?
I think ethical is a bit too limiting betterment it's really to acknowledge and this is something I'm really going big recently that we can you know we hear a lot of complaints we hear a lot of stories maybe from older generation in my times it was better and now our children are doom and gloom so many of these stories and I'm saying what if it wasn't that way what if we could really start to think that there is not only a possibility but really a lot of opportunities to create something different and so for me the word betterment is to really associate with we can do something different and it can be beautiful and we're not doom and gloom and there is so many opportunities and possibilities that are opening up that goes beyond ethics and certain certifications and certain again this is good this is bad you know it's just that vision of okay the doom and gloom that's done and regardless of the pandemic people losing their job people dying they think about what can I do for the world.
Yeah which I mean brings me to again to the idea and you describe that quite well in your in your website and in your video so this whole idea of you have on one side abundance and the idea of wealth and then you have on the other side sort of I guess luck and then sort of coming from a position of luck and scarcity why are there so many people you think in the world I mean a world that should really provide to everyone really especially in our western society really there's no excuse why are there still so many people you feel that come from a place of scarcity really in their lives?
I think it's just a way we have been trained to think and we've been trained to experience the world because again from what I see when I talk to clients one-on-one when they share their most intimate stories there are so many of them that have gone through lack of love in their youth and through really hardship in their in the way they were brought up and if I look at my ancestors for instance it was through very hard work and poverty and you know you look at half of the population is in poverty these days so you you constantly see this on the media you constantly hear about your grandparents or you constantly even experience it for yourself but people my age they said I was forced to eat on the floor or I was given no food because there might be some tendency to have a lack of love in the way we're raised or some people I heard a very interesting story of a person that said I always heard my parents talk about luck and talking about you know things were not good enough and this particular child thought they were poor but then turned up they were living in a luxurious home they had a cook a gardener maid but the way this child experienced the parents talk about always worried about we're gonna lose everything this is too expensive we cannot go on holiday so that child came up thinking oh my god I am poor and they were not poor by any definition of poverty so again it's just the way we've been raised and if we could and this is gazillion eons of doing the world and being humans right so if we can shift that but it's gonna take some again commitment it's gonna take some education it's gonna take some self-discipline to start to look at the world in a different place and also there is sometimes and people don't like when I say that but there is sometimes this idea that if you don't like money you're a better person if you do things not for the money you're a better person and they boast about it and a lot of heart-centered entrepreneurs says I'm not in it for the money as it is a beautiful things that are not in it for the money and yet we live in the world where money opens so many doors and money allows you to eat money allows you to build money allows you to give money allows you to eradicate poverty so again what are we thinking we're gaining by being proud of saying I don't do it for the money yeah why is it such an emotionally charged word you think money I'm just asking because in some circles it seems to be as much a taboo as almost as the word sex almost isn't it people are money you know I don't mention it you know it's like it's like a bad thing to even talk about money why is that the case I mean even in my work at NLP you know clients would say yeah I have no problem with money and then we mention the word and what does it mean for you what you know and then you get all sorts of weird emotional baggage that seems to to stick on it really that has been through a lifetime of luck I guess or from experiences what do you think is such a it's such a weird thing to talk about for most people yeah I think it's just this conditioning and these stories that we heard and the misinterpretation starting from the bible money is the root of evil it turned out that was an exact quote it wasn't really about the money the use of the money if you like I said if you think you're quote spiritual then money is definitely something you don't want to do if you are passionate about your job you feel compelled to say it's not about money so again but and then you see a lot of corruption you see a lot of things that are associated with mismanagement of money but use the money and I say the way you do money is the way you do everything so it's gonna be loaded with some kind of connotation and what people don't realize money amplifies what's already new so if you've got a good soul and you want to share money the more money you make the more you're going to share and support people and you know I have no problem paying my milk double the price because it comes from the milkman I know I'm giving labor to the driver that brings the milk the milkman the farmer and some people would say no it costs the money why just go to the supermarket right so how do you do things and if you think you're gonna be really avid for money because they give you a certain type of power it allows you to manipulate things if you are that sort of person that's exactly what you're going to do and then an observer might be looking at it thinking oh look at that person you know they're mistreating the money but if that person was a heart-centered person that would just share their money with somebody so it's really this misconception of what is portrayed the media the religion it's so much fuss about money yeah and when you think about it's just an exchange of energy isn't it money that's no more than that really so it is a neutral thing but we make it something that is not neutral by the way we interact with it and the way that we that we use it in our lives as you said correct and your culture and your religion and your personal experience and your family it's very much associated with all of that yes yeah okay and so i just want to come back to something you mentioned earlier because i had a question about that so you mentioned the word quantum flow i was quite intrigued tell me more about quantum flow what is it so quantum flow is the practice that has not been developed by me i train with Juan Pablo Barraona which is the person that really came with the practice and in short is tapping into the quantum field the energy of all there is and it's a combination of breath work gentle movement meditation to again rewire as an llp practitioner you'll be familiar with it to really rewire your brain your physical body into abundance so again all of these stories that we created for ourselves all of this energy that is stuck in our body all of this dna that has been dormant for years through this practice of really breath work movement meditation allows you to then move everything that's not serving you out of your body out of your work field you come back to who you really are your divine self and then of course the result is you create the reality that you want a lot easier by bringing yourself back to center because ultimately ultimately whatever we're doing in this world what's stopping us is there's something within our field is like some people call it obstacles some people call it limiting beliefs right some people call it short circuits but the easiest way is just rewire that body mind soul spirit so that you can let your superpower flow if you believe in a higher connection allow that higher connection to guide you and then everything becomes a lot easier in life in whatever field you apply that to okay so you mentioned breathing earlier i think that's something quite interesting for me to hear that the importance of breathing and i'm saying this because i know someone with a breathing coach that's all she does helps people to breathe properly and she tells me most people don't even know how to breathe which is crazy isn't it it's the most basic thing in our lives without you know breathing we're gonna die so but yeah most people do it wrong i mean how would you incorporate that specifically is that the part of meditation that you're doing do you let people relax or is it something different um so it's simply it's guidance on again you're gonna love but how to breathe you know and it's you breathe from your belly how long you count in maybe you hold it at the top maybe you exhale a little slower maybe sometimes you you move at the same time you focus your mind on a certain direction so it really takes guidance because like you say we were used as human being we don't think about the breath but we don't necessarily make the best of how we could be breathing and my company is called breathing heart in a sense even though i i wasn't a quantum flow practitioner at the beginning but i thought what is important in life and to me was breath breath is life without breath you don't have life and if you don't breathe from the heart again this idea that it's it's not from your mind you gotta come into love and the heart is love then your whole life is going to be completely transformed so therefore breathing heart and people always ask about how did you come up with this this name and this is how and then they say oh actually you're right you know life becomes a lot easier when you're conscious am i taking the most amount of air and does it come from my heart am i opening my heart am i doing things with kindness am i doing things with joy am i doing things with love and if the answer is yes your life is a lot nicer if the answer is no that's very interesting yeah and i completely believe that isn't it i mean if you take a holistic approach on people all this stuff has an influence on other so the way we breathe has an influence on spiritually how we um experience the world or what you mentioned earlier the way we we sort of go the way we treat money is the way we treat everything else everything is related in one way or another at the end of the day isn't it is no nothing is really separate of what we do correct correct yes yeah that's what i believe um something else again i know that that you're working with and i'm quite sure that you still do it's just the idea of the law of attraction which you know something that a lot of us are you know finding important principle in creating the correct mindset really with people and the thing that i'm interesting interested in always to hear is like why i mean i think it works and you think it works i'm sure but why does it work is it like because there is some sort of mysterious principle in the universe that is guiding us and makes things work for us or is it simply it sort of retrains the unconscious mind to look for opportunities and then you actually do the things that you're supposed to be doing to get the things that you want oh this is a topic i could speak about for three days and more because the law of attraction i think it's a very misinterpreted concept and we hear a lot about people saying the law of attraction this is how you do it you sit you close your eyes you picture something beautiful and you repeat it 10 times 10 times a day and boom it's gonna happen for you now i say it's a good start to have positive thoughts to be thinking about what you want it's not enough so the law of attraction is this idea that if you think about something you raise your vibration at a certain frequency and each and everything and everyone has got frequency so this is this is a given and i explain to my children a lot of times it's like depending on which frequency you're vibrating at you see the world in in a certain way so let's say you vibrate i'm just gonna give very simple example you vibrate at the frequency of 20 and the flowers that are red are vibrating at the frequency of 20 you're gonna see red flowers everywhere and there are going to be flowers that are blue they vibrate at the frequency of 40 you're not going to see the blue unless you're going to vibrate at the frequency of 40 so therefore you know that at some point if you move your frequency from 20 to 40 you're going to see the red flowers at 20 and the blue flowers at 40 but it's not just by oh sitting there and repeating the same things 10 times and so it really is what is available to you in that realm let's say i go to china i know i'm more likely to find noodles than if i go to italy right so i need to find a certain way to go to china first and foremost if i want noodles that doesn't guarantee i'm gonna get the noodles it's just say it's there it's a possibility you still need to go an extra step so everybody likes to talk about the law of attraction because it was made very popular but at the same time it's got such a big i'm gonna call it a slap because you might be thinking oh i'm meditating i'm calling in i'm thinking positive thoughts it's not happening for me and then you start to think i've done something wrong it's not i'm not good enough i'm not meditating the right way i'm not saying the right affirmation because the law of attraction is just one thing it's not everything there are other laws that come into assessment there's free will there's many many times your soul contract so it really depends about many other pieces of the puzzle and this idea that just because we think it it's gonna happen to us it doesn't work that way at all no and i agree with that and definitely again from a perspective perspective of nlp there needs to be i mean you need to make it real right one way or another so even when people visualize things sometimes they don't actually they don't visualize correctly they don't actually see the detail of what they want so they don't really know what they want they just think it'd be nice to have a car or money or you know a big house or whatever but unless you say what how specifically what car specifically when are you gonna have it to make all that stuff real in your head you're not really going to do anything to get all these things because it's just a dream it's a nice thing to have but there's no energy towards it so i can definitely see it and you mentioned soul contract never heard that term before i'm quite fascinated now what is that oh soul contract so we need to take a step back and for those that are listening they think it's a bit woowoo just go with it just listen to the end of the conversation and then get in touch if you think it's too much so soul contract is i really believe that we come here on planet earth from possibly a different plane right i'm a shamanic priestess so one of my skills is to be talking to this different plane and these different realms and these different let's call it entities or guides or right so when we are not in the physical body we are light we are again you can call it whatever you are but we are in a different plane of existence and in order to come into our physical body our soul as let's call it a mission right is again if you think i want to from london drive to bristol what am i going to go to do in bristol i'm just not going to wake up one day and say i'm going to drive to bristol i probably want to go and have maybe ice cream right it's a long way but so i need to decide oh once i'm in bristol what am i going to do what am i looking for how do i want to experience bristol do i want to go the five star or do i want to go maybe camping site and this is when soul contracts come into play because we are not alone in the universe we're not alone on planet earth we interact with people and when you are not in the physical body so when you're still light when you're still in the other realm you predetermine and you plan what is it that you come here to do and you pick your pair you pick your parents as a soul you pick your husband or wife or a lover or your teachers your masters and these are called soul contracts because you agree you pre-agree within you this is what we go into do together now there's always an element of we will so i think the easiest example is you pre-agree with another soul i'm going to marry you because i think we want to you know we're going to work on whatever issue we want to work we want to have a good life together and then of course you come into the physical body you forget everything and when you see that person you might not remember your soul contract and you might decide no not marrying this person she's not for me or it's not for me and then the whole love scenario comes right so there is free will but there is some predetermined agreement that you made and then it's up to you to decide you know do i want to stick well your soul decides i want to stick to that agreement no maybe come back in a different lifetime you meet that person again and you you go into that it's a very fascinated complicated in a sense topic but the more you tune into that for me is just again one of those conversation with my guides that i get the information there are many books on soul contract carolyn miss she's amazing she's got very very very good material for those of you that want to know more right so the way you describe the way i understand it's your your soul knows so it goes beyond free will isn't it because what we know consciously like you say we forget our contract or whatever our soul really decides but the soul knows so there is something beyond our what we call ourselves then is there out there that guides us or did i misunderstand that yes yes there is this your physical body what we call the self and then there is the higher self and there's the soul that comes into the body and this is where some people see it as faith because if you have a pre-agreed contract with somebody that could be when you come into the world you bump into that person in the supermarket is never met foot on that supermarket where you were meant to be so some people might call it faith or coincidences or synchronicities but really was these two higher beings that decided you know what we're gonna meet there and from there we're going to see what's what's happening very interesting concept very interesting concept indeed yes yes no thank you for explaining that um well as as usually has become a really fascinating conversation and i'm very very glad i got you again on the podcast to have this this conversation again and so we can discuss a few um you know of the familiar concept and a few of the concepts that actually were not familiar to me such as what we just said the soul contract or the quantum flow that we discussed earlier so thank you very much for your time and my last question is i mean where can people find if you know heart-centered and entrepreneurs that would like to get in touch with you what's the best place to to find out more about you in the way that you work the best place would be through my website which is breathingheart.
Co.
Uk they can send me an email they can book a call and i always say don't be shy because if you don't ask you don't get so if there is something in your mind something you want to discuss even if you think oh don't agree with that but there's something moving you then go for it and send me an email or reach out to recall fantastic excellent alex it has been an absolute pleasure thank you very much for your time thank you so much kasas thank you pleasure to be here you are listening to the how did they do it podcast do not forget to subscribe by following us on apple spotify or ankle for weekly conversation with inspirational individuals who found their own freedom by doing the thing they love doing most and you can also follow me on costasthecoach.
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