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I'm your host,
Megan Mary,
Founder of Women's Dream Analysis.
Let's bring in the light.
Welcome everybody.
Today I have Rashida Kamaria-Williams,
And she is a mentor turned social entrepreneur and founder of Empowered Flower Girl.
Thank you for being here,
Rashida.
Thank you for having me.
I'm really excited,
Slightly anxious,
Nervous,
And all of the above.
Yes,
Me too.
So that's okay.
It's totally natural.
So today,
Rashida has so graciously shared a dream of hers for us all to hear in a dream session,
And this is a recurring dream.
So I want to talk just very briefly about recurring dreams,
Because whenever we have a dream theme that reoccurs,
Even if it's slightly varies,
Normally that is because there is some message that is not coming through.
Whenever we have the same kind of thing happening and we see patterns,
Which is one of the great benefits of having a dream journal,
Is if we start to see those patterns,
Then we can unearth really what is happening beneath the surface there,
And there's something else that we can learn from that dream.
So it's very,
Very beneficial,
And what I'm going to walk you through today is what I call the dream mirror method.
And so what it does is it looks at your memory of the dream,
Which you have provided me with,
And then it looks at the mood that you experienced during that dream,
And then we'll deep dive into how that dream mirrors aspects of your waking life and the metaphors that are present in the dream and what those might represent.
So I'm going to ask a lot of different questions just to get your juices flowing and get that whole theory kind of evolving.
So we're going to dive in and see where it takes us,
And it's going to be a journey.
Okay.
I'm ready.
All right.
So I always ask everybody to give their dream a title,
And that is one of the thematic ways that we can get at a quick snapshot of the essence.
So your dream title was Airplanes That Don't Take Off,
Which is great because one of my first questions is going to be,
What's the point of an airplane if it doesn't take off?
I agree.
Yes.
So this plot already kind of gives us a little bit of rumination.
We can start thinking a little bit about the purpose of an airplane,
The metaphor of an airplane,
What an airplane does,
The expectation and purpose of that,
And then if it's not performing its purpose,
What that might mean.
Okay.
So on this day,
You had a dream that you were on an airplane.
It was an Egyptian air flight,
And you say it's wild because the airplane was large enough to have a theater inside.
So an enormous,
Enormous airplane.
Yes.
You were attending a commencement ceremony for your alma mater and former employer,
Wayne State University.
You sat in a seat near the back but couldn't see the stage because the seats were too high,
And you had to adjust yourself and the seat to see.
Now you say that you've had this recurring dream before about airplanes traveling to foreign places you've actually never been in each dream.
In each dream,
The airplane taxis through cities,
Streets,
And highways,
But you don't actually feel the plane ascending,
But you arrive at the destination miraculously,
Which is good,
Which is interesting.
Yes.
It's good.
So when we look at the mood,
Before this particular dream,
You had some concerns about a situation that you were facing with a former employer,
And overall,
Some anxiety that you've had about some clients that you've been working with.
So then I asked you about prominent colors and numbers,
And you said that you remember seeing the color red and seeing sand,
And that there may have been pyramids in the background.
Okay.
Now,
The other part of the dream,
And we're just going to go over it all,
And then we'll go back.
Sure.
Is in this dream,
There were people you knew.
So part of the mirror step is,
Were there any people,
And did you know those people,
Or did they represent someone that you know of but you don't know personally?
You said that,
For example,
At the commencement,
The former president,
Alan Gilmore,
Had dropped his wireless mic.
You found it and went to return it.
As you approached the backstage area,
You saw a woman who looked like Kid Rock.
Then you saw Kid Rock with a baby,
Reaching to give her a hug.
Okay.
So we're going to go back to the beginning,
Because there's so many,
This is so rich,
And I really appreciate you giving me such a detailed account,
Because there's so much here that we can go into.
Okay.
So first,
We're going to talk about being on the airplane and just how large it is.
So talk about what it felt like to be on a plane of that size.
Well,
It was quite interesting,
Because at first I didn't realize I was in an airplane.
I thought that I was just in a theater waiting to participate in the commencement exercises.
The weird thing is,
With a lot of my dreams,
I realize that I'm dreaming at a certain point.
It's not right away,
But I'll think to myself,
Hmm,
I should be working right now.
Why am I not working?
So it was for my alma mater,
And I used to actually work for my alma mater for six years.
I was thinking to myself,
While I'm here as an attendee,
I'm not actually working.
This is kind of odd.
What's going on?
And then I realized,
Oh,
I'm dreaming.
And then it wasn't until I shifted and moved to a different area of the theater that I saw rows and aisles and realized,
Oh,
Wait a minute,
I'm in an airplane.
But how can I be in an airplane with a theater inside?
So did you actually realize you were dreaming,
As in it was also a lucid dream?
Yes.
A lot of my dreams are lucid.
Okay,
Great.
Does this plane dream,
Is that plane dream usually recurring as well?
So not necessarily airplanes that have large theaters or anything like that,
But in several of my dreams,
I've been in an airplane and wondered,
Why are we taxiing through the city?
I've been in Chicago,
I've been in Detroit,
I've been in different cities around the country and around the world where I'm taxiing through the city as opposed to the airplane actually taking off.
Okay.
And you were attending a commencement ceremony,
Which is a very specific event.
And when you think about a commencement ceremony,
What feelings or associations does that bring up for you?
What is that event like?
Yeah,
So for me,
Commencements are about excitement,
The future,
Just also kind of venturing into the unknown,
But also knowing that all your hard work has paid off.
For me,
When I think about when I graduated,
It was sort of a relief,
As well as a time for me to come together with my family and friends to celebrate an achievement.
Okay,
Good.
The next thing is that you sat in a seat near the back and you couldn't see the stage because the seats were too high.
Explain that action,
That situation.
Yes,
That situation was kind of odd because at first they were just normal airplane seats,
Right?
Standard airline seats.
But then I looked and they turned into these high,
Almost throne-like seats.
I mean,
These were very ornate and odd and they were very high.
And I'm trying to look over and I was asking some other passengers,
Like,
Can you all see?
Why would they have these large seats like this?
And we can't see the stage.
And they were looking kind of perplexed as well.
Okay.
And I like that you said that you adjust yourself and the seat because the adjusting yourself is a metaphor for you trying to work with this situation.
The situation that you feel is inaccessible to you,
That you're not able to see clearly,
That your vision is being blocked and you almost feel like it's.
.
.
I like the image of the throne and the ornateness because that really gives an air to what it is that you're trying to see.
So before we go to the people,
I think that what's very telling about the setting and the way you described it is that you have this feeling like,
I should be working.
Why am I here?
Why am I taxiing?
And when you look at the metaphor of that and that larger,
That larger question,
It's a very profound question,
Right?
What am I doing here?
Why am I here,
Literally?
And also,
Why am I taxiing?
Why am I not taking off?
And there's this greater metaphor there that I see that has to do with you feeling like you're going through the motions that you've gotten your ticket and you're on the vehicle,
But it's not taking you where you want to be.
And the setting of the commencement,
You're looking for that payoff of your hard work.
You're longing for that relief.
And you're a little bit frustrated about how come you can't see it?
How come?
Why did they create it this way that you can't see it?
You can't see the stage.
So the stage is where that is happening,
Right?
Where everybody is being congratulated and where everybody is transitioning from their hard work to their purpose or their next stage.
They're getting the relief,
But you're not quite,
Your seat isn't quite positioned right.
You're not quite positioned right.
And I think that that's a metaphor for a situation in your life where you feel like you're metaphorically taxing and or that you're looking on at other people's accomplishments,
But you don't feel like you are actually having the clear vision of your own accomplishment.
You're not getting that payoff.
Yeah,
There's some,
There's definitely some truth in there.
I mean,
Some areas,
You know,
I am definitely grateful that I have been achieving some feats and just being able to achieve some milestones.
But there are some areas where I'm like frustrated.
Like I want to do more to help people.
I want to make a powerful difference.
And I feel like I'm stalled in that and like,
Where am I going next?
Yes.
Yes.
And it doesn't mean that you haven't accomplished things because of course you have.
But you know,
As anyone,
You set the bar,
You set the next bar,
You set the next bar And you're just,
You know,
You,
You're pushing yourself and you know where you want to go and you don't quite feel like you're there yet.
And that's okay.
Because if you were,
Had it all done and it all figured out,
Then why would you still be here?
Right.
I mean,
We all,
We all are here for a purpose and it's a journey and we're,
We're trying to make those achievements.
We're trying to figure that out.
Now,
When you talk about the colors and the symbols,
Tell me what,
If I didn't know what sand was,
What would you,
How would you describe sand?
Well,
I would describe sand as,
I don't know,
I would hope that you would know what sugar is.
I would say it,
It feels,
The texture is like sugar except for it is,
It's neutral color.
It feels good when you put your toes in it.
It may not be as gritty as sugar.
I don't know.
I love sand because sand tells me I'm at the beach.
And even though sand is in the desert as well,
In this case,
I was on Egyptian airlines and I probably ended up in Egypt.
Don't know how I got there,
But I ended up there in the airport seeing the pyramids off in the distance.
But I,
Yeah,
I would describe sand as basically sugar's original cousin.
I don't know.
Okay.
And how would you describe,
What associations do you have or what does Egypt make you think of in the pyramids?
So it makes me think of like a rich history,
A history that is kind of mysterious.
And some people have fought hard to change it or transform it to be what they think it should be.
But I feel like it's a blueprint for technology and just humans being able to achieve such,
I don't know,
Almost miraculous feats in a way.
Okay.
So using your words back,
I hear a lot of miraculous,
Mysterious,
Rich,
And fought hard to transform and change as well as feels good and reminds you of the beach.
And so I almost feel like Egypt in your metaphor,
In your dream language is a metaphor for your rich contribution,
Your great feat that you're achieving and that the sand is the reward that you're looking for from that effort,
That you're associating that feeling good on the beach,
Which is your relief,
Which is your reward for your hard work,
Like the commencement and that the pyramids represent all of the work and inventions in your blueprint of the feats that you have accomplished and want to accomplish.
They're so big that they're almost,
You're not even sure how you're going to accomplish it.
Kind of like how we don't know how the pyramids got there,
But they are admired and they are almost miracles,
But they're,
Like you said,
Miraculous feats.
So I think that you take that language and look at the Egyptian metaphor around that language and apply that,
Mirror that to your waking life,
Your situations in your life where you are fighting hard to transform and change,
And you're trying to accomplish miraculous feats and you're hoping for that,
To be able to see the stage,
To be part of that commencement where you can feel good and not gritty and relieved at the beach,
The way you feel when you've accomplished something and you can finally let yourself relax.
Right on.
I'm all for it.
Okay.
The second part I think is also very interesting,
That in the dream there were people you knew and that one example is the former president,
Alan Gilmore.
Now if you were to describe the former president in three adjectives,
How would you describe him?
Behaviorally,
Personality-wise,
Not necessarily the way he looks.
Sure.
One way I would describe him is very generous,
Savvy,
He's a very business-savvy individual.
He was a high-ranking corporate executive previously at an automotive company,
And then he just decided to donate his time to serve as president of a large urban research institution.
I guess generous and philanthropic,
Savvy.
I would say the third one would be,
Hmm,
I don't know.
There's something about his personality that has felt very warm.
I felt like he was my grandpa or something.
That's really good.
That's really good.
Because that's your subconscious association.
That's the metaphor of his appearance in your dream,
Is that feeling,
That feeling of warmth and comfort that you felt with your grandfather.
And also the metaphors of his personality,
The generousness,
The business-savvy,
The philanthropic are very key too.
The action is that he drops his wireless mic and you find it and want to return it.
Tell me about that,
How that plays out.
Sure.
Well,
I was looking at everyone getting ready.
Previously when I worked for the university,
Part of my job was to help promote the commencement or talk about the student success stories.
Sometimes I would attend the commencement ceremonies and help out,
Whether it was helping escort media through or connecting media with students.
I worked in communications and myself and the rest of the staff,
We would always attend and it was a fun occasion even for us as staff.
We were working,
But it was also just fun for us to celebrate the students.
So me being there,
Again,
I realized that I was dreaming in some parts,
But I was like,
I'm here,
So I should be helpful.
And when I saw him drop his mic,
I'm like,
Oh no,
I can't have him go and embarrass himself on stage and he'll go to talk and he doesn't have his mic,
I have to help him out.
And so I was like,
No one's going to help,
Okay,
I guess I have to go,
I'll go help him and make sure that he's all set when he goes on stage.
Okay,
That is key,
What you just said.
If no one else is going to help,
I'm going to do it.
And I know the work that you do,
And that is very much coming from that place,
That you feel very much like you have to empower young girls,
Because if you don't,
Who will?
And when you talk about somebody dropping the mic,
It's almost like dropping the ball,
The metaphor of someone dropping the ball.
Now interestingly,
A mic is a way that you communicate.
And so you were concerned that he might be caught in a lurch,
And you stepped up and said,
Well,
No one else is going to do this,
I have to be the one to help him.
But also,
You know,
In doing so,
You picked up a symbol of communication,
Which is how you're helping.
That's what you're doing.
Yeah.
Yes.
Wow,
I would have never thought of that detail.
So then you find it and you go to return it.
And as you are going there,
You go backstage.
Which is also.
.
.
This is also a metaphor,
Basements and backstage.
So backstage would be behind the scenes,
Behind the veil,
Behind the curtain.
And so when you go back there,
You're kind of going further into yourself,
Into the shadow.
So then you see a woman who looks like him.
Well,
Actually,
I saw a woman and she looked like Kid Rock.
You're right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the woman,
Yeah,
The woman,
She looks like Kid Rock.
And I thought that was odd,
Because.
.
.
So describe Kid Rock in three adjectives.
Oh,
Gosh.
I would say his appearance or his being?
His behavior,
His personality,
How you perceive him,
What the three things are that you think.
Yeah.
Well,
I'll be nice.
I'll say rebellious,
Engaging,
And he's from the Detroit area,
Which is fascinating.
That's where I'm from.
Okay.
So pulling out those opinions that you're holding about this person,
This person is a metaphor.
So it's supposed to be what you see happening.
Those aspects are all,
Everyone in your dream can be a reflection of yourself,
Can be an aspect of yourself.
So you want to pull out why they're there and what aspect of you that is.
So we see a woman that looks like him,
But then you see him with a baby and reaching to give the woman that looks like him a hug.
So explain that situation.
Yeah.
Well,
When I saw that,
Then I realized,
Oh,
My goodness,
That must be his mother.
Even though in real life,
Kid Rock's mother looks nothing like this lady.
The lady in my dream looked more like Kid Rock than his mother.
But yeah,
I was thinking,
Wow,
This is quite fascinating that Kid Rock's mother,
I didn't realize she worked for the Board of Governors for the university.
Okay.
So I think,
So you see,
Tell me about the baby too,
Because a baby,
Go ahead,
Yeah,
Tell me about the baby.
Well,
I just saw him with a baby and I thought to myself,
Again,
It's me going from the dream to trying to find logic in this or trying to figure things out.
I'm like,
I don't recall Kid Rock having a baby this young.
So I was trying to put it together,
Like,
Who is this kid?
I'm like,
Maybe it's his grandkid.
I don't know.
But that was interesting,
Trying to piece that together in the dream.
And how old was this baby,
Do you think?
It had to have been a toddler,
Maybe one.
Okay.
So many times when we talk about a baby baby,
Sometimes that can be like a burgeoning creativity that can be like a new project,
A new thing,
Because it's a toddler.
It's not just birthed,
Right?
It's not,
It's kind of walking maybe,
But still not completely on its own.
So we look at the representation and the metaphor of the baby,
Also the mother and the son.
So or the person that looks like,
You know,
The other one hugging,
Hugging.
So when you saw them hugging,
How did you feel?
What emotions happened with it?
Well,
You know,
I kind of put aside my opinions of,
Oh,
That's sweet,
You know,
Despite our differences of opinions and how we feel and,
You know,
Just some controversial things that he's done.
I was like,
Well,
You know,
That's nice.
There's his mom.
Yes.
So that's good.
So that is sort of the,
That is a representation of the heart leading because you can look above those things and you're not getting lost in the lower vibrations of opinions and disagreements and you're actually acknowledging and witnessing an exchange of emotion and exchange of love and you're acknowledging it.
So something that I want to pull out of that,
There's two things.
But one thing is that this is a person that is from where you're from.
So there's another,
Another layer of how that is part of you.
Now words that you use to describe him are rebellious,
Engaging.
Think about the situation that you're frustrated about with your clients,
Okay?
You may need to embody some of the elements that he represents in order to resolve some of the issues with your clients.
Because you're having some invoicing issues,
You indicated,
And you're frustrated about that and you may need to actually change the way that you're approaching that situation.
Combine the two things.
So take the way that you metaphorically view his personality and also how,
What you witnessed him do.
So those are two very different things.
And they need to come together in an understanding,
In a holistic understanding.
Now when I look at,
I like to integrate color theory and Robert Haas has a great color theory that I like to use.
And when we look at some of the exploratory questions that come around the color of red,
Some of them really resonate with the mood that you went to sleep in.
So one of them is,
I am feeling anxious.
One is I need to get out and enjoy myself.
And one is I need to be more assertive.
So those are all emotional themes that can help to trigger your associations with the dream.
And I see all three of those very powerfully represented in the dream.
You're anxious about when the president drops his mic.
You feel like there's going to be an embarrassment here,
Something bad's going to happen.
It's on my watch.
No one else is going to help.
I have to help.
You want to get out and enjoy yourself,
Which is the plane,
Because the plane is a vehicle for taking you somewhere else.
And the sand is an association that reminds you of being at the beach and getting that relaxation.
And you also are experiencing some issues in your waking life with your clients.
You're not being assertive enough,
And you're not engaging them enough and being forceful enough to get what is owed you.
So that is kind of the culminating circular representation of all metaphors.
Wow.
So now I'm going to pull you a card,
And we're just going to see what the Oracle says about this,
Because sometimes there is a really interesting message that just kind of elucidates the whole thing.
All right.
So we'll see what happens.
Okay.
It is traveling lightly.
Simplify your life.
And so this is a symbol of a person that is embarking on a journey,
But they're only carrying a small bag,
And they're headed towards the really bright sunlight that's ahead of them,
But they're going it a little bit lighter.
And I love that it's a traveling card,
Because that is the airplane.
I mean,
That is the symbolism of the recurring airplane dream.
And when you think about what an airplane represents,
It's not only how you get from one place to another,
Because it could be a car,
It could be a bus,
It's something that flies in the air.
And when we look at the elements of air,
Earth,
Fire,
And water,
Air represents our thoughts.
And so anytime you have a symbol that is present in the air,
That is something that flies in the air,
A plane,
A bird,
An airplane,
It represents your perspectives on things,
Your intellectual perspective and comprehension of things.
And so simplifying your life is really telling you to evaluate your perspective on how you are traveling through these situations,
And how you can simplify it,
How you can possibly embody some of the aspects of the people that were in your dream.
Because if we go back to the president,
Vice president,
He was generous,
Savvy,
Philanthropic.
And so you want to balance the dichotomy of Alan and Kid Rock,
They represent two different aspects of yourself.
And you have to look at the metaphors of the two people's personalities,
And what aspects of them you want to embody or need to embody to travel lightly,
To continue to pursue what you're doing,
But do it even better so that your airplane actually takes off.
Right.
Yes.
We got to just get it,
Get it up there.
Yeah.
Yes.
Love it.
Wow.
I'm amazed because sometimes when I look at dreams,
I'm thinking of them one dimensionally at times.
And I don't have,
Of course,
The tools to really dive that deep,
Or sometimes I'm not even thinking of it.
But I do record the dreams often,
Or I'll post them on social media.
And then a year or so later,
I go back and look at memories.
I'm like,
Yeah,
I remember that and think how it played out in my life in some way.
Yes.
Yes.
That's why it's so important to record them,
Because you lose them so quickly.
And they do contain so many little nuggets that you just overlook,
That you can explain away as soon as you're awake and just disregard.
You know?
Yeah.
But part of what you can do when you have this recurring dream,
If you really start to reflect on it over the course of the next week,
What we discussed and kind of how you see the different elements of the different aspects that we unearthed.
So the symbols and the colors and the people and the settings,
And you start really reflecting on that and journaling on that.
You can transform your inner world and how you're viewing this perspective so that that dream starts to change.
And also,
Because you have the ability to recognize that you're dreaming when you're in the lucid dream,
You can actually really harness that power too and use techniques and tactics that once you're in the dream,
Say,
Oh,
It's another airplane dream.
And you can change it.
And you can go into the cockpit and make it take off.
And when you do that,
It's going to come back around into your waking life.
And you're going to really start to see that change.
So I encourage you to walk down that path of the lucid dreaming,
Because you are definitely there.
And being that you have this recurring dream,
It's a perfect opportunity to harness the power of lucid dreaming for your own confidence and for your own support and self-care.
Yeah.
And I love it because it's fascinating because I've been all over,
Like I said,
I've been all over the world in my dream,
From Ghana to Singapore to Egypt and places.
And I can see so many details.
And it's like I'm really there.
And sometimes,
Like I said,
I don't know how I got there.
Right.
And you may be dimensionally traveling.
And it's entirely possible.
We can't prove everything,
Right?
That's true.
It's what you know to be true.
And so that's part of dream work,
Is kind of opening yourself to those possibilities.
And you can't pigeonhole anything.
If you do,
You're going to limit your ability to really experience what's happening.
So I hope that's been helpful.
Very helpful.
All right.
And thank you so much for sharing.
And I really appreciate you,
What you do,
As well as being a guest on the show today.
So thank you,
Rashida.
Well,
Thank you very much.
And thank you for having me.
I really appreciate this.
This is definitely going to help me in my work,
As well as my personal life and purpose slash mission.
Excellent.
All right.
Well,
Thank you again.
Thanks.