Hey,
Everyone,
And welcome back to the podcast.
I got to interview someone so super groovy this time,
And I know you're thinking,
Kirsten,
You say that about all your guests,
But this guest,
Hannah Forrest?
Oh,
My gosh.
I was able to scratch the itch that is all about the fae,
Fairyland,
And those little nature creatures or spirits that we can't see.
Hannah is so groovy.
She's an intuitive naturopath and herbalist.
And from her website,
She says she's devoted to the quiet,
Everyday practices that shape our health,
Our homes,
And our relationship with the natural world.
We're going to talk a whole lot more about who Hannah is and the way she moves in the world.
But really,
She had me at fairy.
And her miracle moments,
Her magical moments,
Well,
One's a little spooky,
And the other one has to do with that great big energy synchronicity,
But it's really hilarious,
And so I think you're gonna enjoy it.
All right,
Let's dive on in.
Here is my conversation with Hannah Forrest.
I was there with my husband this time and he doesn't come to many of these things because he is more atheist.
And but I managed to drag him along because Jerry was doing a slideshow old school of their recent trip to France and through Europe because she until last year,
Last year was her last one ran,
You know,
Pilgrimages.
We were sitting there in some chairs and watching these very long slideshow very long.
And,
And I felt someone put their hand on my shoulder.
Like quite heavy,
Like,
Like,
Like they were trying to kind of,
Hey,
I thought maybe my head's in the way or something.
So I turned around and no one,
No one was there.
There are just so many because that is the world that I live in.
And so it's tricky because,
You know,
Like.
I guess the people I surround myself with,
This is a normal thing.
This is just an everyday occurrence.
And so,
You know,
Like my best friend,
She's a Greek witch tarot reader who can perform exorcisms.
It's a whole thing.
She's a whole thing,
Greek Orthodox infused in there.
It's like,
It's a whole thing.
And so like,
That's,
I spend so much time with her and we talk all the day.
So like the stories that I hear from her and from my other friends,
And then the stories that I've experienced is just so many of them.
And it's kind of,
You know,
If you were to think about how it changed me,
I guess it all changes me just in the fact that that is my life.
But To pick one or two,
I think.
.
.
Definitely one of them can be the first time that I felt a ghost touch me.
Um,
Which I'm not,
So I'm not as much as I work in spiritual realms,
It's not,
If I'm not an overly sensitive individual,
And I know that about myself,
And I'm at peace with it.
Now,
I'm not that person who's just seeing ghosts everywhere and hearing things.
And it's just not as much as I sometimes I'm like,
That would be so cool.
I'm not clairvoyant.
It's not,
I don't speak to the dead much.
It's just,
You know,
But,
Um,
I think like,
You know,
Yeah,
I'm just not that person.
But I very clearly had an experience which kind of was like,
Whoa,
That's the first time I can absolutely pinpoint that that happened.
And there were other people in the room.
And so I was at my mentor's property.
So she has a property called Grout Haven up here.
And it's a sanctuary and they have sacred well water there.
And they you know,
They run workshops and retreats and things like that.
And so I'm like her,
She calls me her wizard's apprentice.
And so I was there with my husband this time,
And he doesn't come to many of these things because he is more atheist.
And you know,
Raised Catholic,
He has some things around that.
So we're just giving him some time and space to figure it out.
But he's terrified of ghosts,
Which I think is so funny.
Absolutely terrified.
I'm like,
Are you atheist?
I think there's some beliefs there.
But we're just gonna again,
We're gonna let you figure that out by yourself.
And but I managed to drag him along because Jerry was doing a slideshow old school of their recent trip to France and through Europe because she until last year,
Last year was her last one,
Ran,
You know,
Pilgrimages to sacred sites.
And so they would go and they did a whole Michael tour,
Archangel Michael tour,
And they do ones with the Black Madonnas and Mary Magdalene and like those kinds of things.
And so she she was like,
Oh,
I want a bunch of people to come and see,
You know what we did.
And so and have tea and snacks.
And we went along and we were sitting there in some chairs,
We're watching these very long slideshows very long.
And,
And I felt someone put their hand on my shoulder,
Like quite heavy,
Like,
Like,
Like they were trying to kind of,
Hey,
I thought maybe my head's in the way or something.
So I turned around.
And no one,
No one was there.
Everyone was watching.
There was a row behind me.
But they were like,
They were engrossed in the slides.
They were not that close to me.
And I was like,
What?
And then I see my husband go.
And he's looking around and I was like,
Oh,
What the heck just happened?
And so I kind of just like,
Let it be.
And then,
You know,
When we got home,
I called Jerry and I was like,
Hey,
I just want to like,
We felt hands on our shoulder.
And she's so open to this stuff.
And she is very connected and very sensitive.
So she has experiences like this all the time.
But that's just not usually my reality.
And,
You know,
Her husband is a dowser.
So he uses pendulums.
And you know,
He he got straight on the tools,
And he was dowsing and they figured out that it was actually the spirit of somebody who used to come to Grauhaven and let's just call her Victoria.
And she was one of those people that had a really hard time being on the earth.
And sometimes,
You know,
You can look at this from many different perspectives,
Whether you're looking at astrology chart,
Or you're looking at,
You know,
Their karmic,
Whatever,
There's lots of people have soul contracts,
Lots of different ways of explaining what why this might be,
But some people just have a tenuous grip,
They have a foot in both worlds,
And they find it really hard to be here.
And she was one of those people and you know,
She would come to their classes and they became friends with her and then Oh,
You know,
They can hit a point where she started to become really erratic and really just unsettled.
And they could feel that something was really off with her.
And then one day she came to their property.
And when she left,
They were like,
Something's not right.
And then like the next day,
She drove off the mountain,
And she died.
And they don't know whether it was by choice,
Or if it was an accident,
We suspect by choice.
But um,
It was her from from what they could figure out from their connection with this,
You know,
Spirits and guides.
It was her that had touched me on the shoulder.
And they were like,
There's no meaning of harm.
She just wanted to connect with you.
And that was it.
And that was that experience.
So how interesting and I think you know,
When people have these experiences,
They don't always have people who are like,
Yeah,
Cool.
I'll figure out who that is.
No worries.
You don't get the story.
You don't get the backstory.
But it was also somebody they knew so well.
And so yeah,
In that case,
She was very benevolent and just wanted to connect with me and say hi,
I was such a part and am such a part of what they do there.
So that makes sense.
And you know,
We were listening about sacred sites and having those conversations.
So but my husband also felt it and he's like,
Full.
I don't want to know.
I don't know about it.
He knows about it because he doesn't have a choice.
He lives with me.
But you know,
I'm like,
It's okay.
I'm not going to bring it up all the time.
But that was something that we both fell and And so I know it wasn't just in my head.
And so yeah,
How interesting I think.
Thank you.
I have two more questions.
What I find,
I find it just so powerful that when you're a kiddo,
You know,
You're like,
I want to be a wizard or a spy.
And then here we are having this conversation and you just casually drop that you are now known as a wizard's apprentice.
And I thought,
Oh my gosh.
Full circle.
Full circle.
She's on her way.
She's made this happen.
So kudos.
Very exciting.
That's kind of,
To me,
A miracle or a magical thing that,
That,
You know,
At this young age,
You thought spire wizard,
Spire wizard.
And then here we go,
You know,
20,
25 years later,
However long it's been.
And here you are,
You're not a wizard yet,
But you're a wizard's apprentice.
Something about that is so poetic.
And so just and amazing.
I want to just give you a massive round of applause for manifesting that.
You know what?
I never connected it like that.
I never thought about it like that before,
But you're totally right.
Um,
And,
And I could give you a story about how I met her,
Um,
Which is very synchronistic and kind of fits with what we've been talking about.
I'll try to make it concise,
But,
Um,
I think,
You know,
So our paths were connected in so many ways,
But when I,
I ended up changing my life,
So I ended up changing,
Long story short,
When I was studying,
I ended up changing colleges,
Because the standards were changing.
And so I just decided to cut my losses and go from an advanced diploma to a bachelor degree,
Right.
So that's that was the change.
And so I moved schools and started on my bachelor degree.
Um,
When I was there,
We did this unit on flower essences and this is this whole story.
There's so many parts where you go down,
But I,
Again,
I'm a natural skeptic,
Which is really funny because you would not think so,
Uh,
Based on my entire life story and the way that I am and my disposition,
But I'm such a natural skeptic and I am always at war with my inner self.
Like,
Oh no,
That couldn't be true,
But also could it be true?
And,
Um,
Yeah.
So,
You know,
I went into my first Flower Essence session,
Because it's a part of the course,
Or it was at the time,
And I was like,
Okay,
I'm just gonna get through this just gonna get it's gonna be boring.
It's gonna be boring.
Oh,
Was it not boring.
And I have so many stories about that.
But one of them was that they every year would take people on a tour.
They would cover all the different types of flower essences.
And they would take someone on a to take the group on a tour to this property called growlhaven.
Because the person who lives at growlhaven makes a range of flower essences.
And they taught it at the school.
And it was in the curriculum.
And the year that I went,
She was overseas doing one of her tours.
And I didn't get to go.
And I always thought,
Oh,
What a bummer.
That sounds that place sounds awesome.
That sounds so fun.
And I did not live here yet.
So you know,
That was many years later,
We moved to this mountain,
But it all threaded into create where I'm at now.
And so you know,
When I graduated,
We decided we were going to move to tambourine mountain where I live.
And,
And it was really hard to get up here and it was kind of still a pandemic world and,
You know,
House prices are going crazy.
And,
You know,
We're just like two kids and we want to move to the rainforest and we really want to make it happen for ourselves.
And,
And we did that.
And,
And I still didn't run into her,
But I knew she lived up here and I was like,
You know what?
Cause I work a lot with flower essences in my work and I love working with them.
Um,
It's one of my favorite things to do is to do flower essence sessions.
People,
They're very profound.
And it's the most magical,
Mystical,
Miracle based thing that I do is those sessions.
They're incredible.
And,
And,
You know,
It's really opened my eyes to so many things,
Just being able to bear witness to people in those moments.
But I hadn't run into it at all.
And I was like,
You know what,
One day I was at work,
And I was talking to my friend,
And I said,
There's this person up here named Jerry Taylor Wood.
And I,
I have never run into her.
And this is the story,
But I'm going to put it out.
I'm going to speak it out into the universe right now.
I'm going to speak it out.
There's power in your words.
I'm going to meet her soon.
The next day,
I get an urge to go for a massage,
Which I have had about three in my entire life,
I never go for massage,
I absolutely should do it more,
But I don't.
And I just was like,
I'm gonna go for a massage.
And I booked into this place that was kind of new and opened up just off the main street in town.
And I and I was like,
Oh,
Do you have any spots today?
She goes,
Yeah,
Come in.
Great.
So I went in.
And there she is in the waiting room talking to people and I like a celebrity,
My jaw was like.
And I was like,
Play it cool,
Play it cool.
Don't get too excited.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Just we can't.
And then I got into my session and I was lying on the table and being me,
I'm a chatter.
And I also feel bad for people working on me.
And I'm like,
I feel like I need to have a conversation with you.
I really shouldn't do that.
But I do.
And,
You know,
It's not relaxing for me,
But it's,
It's,
I always have great conversations.
And I was like,
Was that person out there by any chance?
Jerry Taylor Wood.
And she went,
Yeah,
She's in here all the time.
She comes in for chats.
And I was like,
Oh,
I've always wanted to meet her.
And she goes,
Stay here.
She left me on the table.
And she went into the master,
Like the main room,
And she went,
I guess she asked Jerry,
Like,
Hey,
There's a girl who wants to meet you,
Would you come back after you go to the post office?
And Jerry went,
Sure.
And so when I got out of my massage,
They set me and Jerry takes me down to a back room,
And they set me up in a meeting.
And then she's like,
Come by and and then it all just unfolded from there.
So it's pretty wild how these things happen.
But I think that that was very synchronistic in so many different ways.
And that's a wrap on my conversation with the enchanting Hannah Forrest.
I rarely get to interview people that know about the Fae and that know about herbalism and have really spent their life's work trying to introduce those intelligences to us.
I really am gaga about Hannah and the work she's doing in the world.
As you all know,
I think we should all be more connected to our natural spaces and get to know those ancient gods,
Get to know those nature spirits.
Thank you for listening.
And here's my one request.
Be like Hannah.
Become friends with the natural world.
I mean,
It's really a passion for her and something that she feels deeply drawn to.
But I think we could all do a little better when it comes to getting to know our rivers,
Saying hello to the mountains that might be around us.
Maybe they're hills.
Or just saying hello to the tree that we are passing by.
They're all alive,
And they're all all deeply wise.
And I think that they're all just waiting for us to become best friends.
So be like Hannah and open your heart to the mystery that is nature,
Those spirits,
Those wise ones.
And gosh,
I don't even know what's going to happen.
I think life's going to get a lot spicier and a whole heck of a lot more fun.