Andrea Smith On Maintaining Your Light
I talk with world-famous Artist Andrea Smith and her husband about Egypt, art and leaving a legacy. Andrea has gone to Egypt dozens of times and has had some deep experiences inside the Pyramid. She also talks about how to hold the light in times when the world is going through so many changes. We also talk about Sedona and the power there.
Transcript
I am so thrilled to have my friends here,
Andre and Gary Smith.
You want your headsets?
You can put headsets on.
Do I need them?
No,
It's up to you.
I don't want them if I don't need them.
Okay,
You don't need them.
Okay.
So,
You know,
Usually we're talking on the phone.
Yes.
And you have so many friends here.
I mean,
So many friends that you've known for so many years because you had your gallery there in Lahaina.
How many years was your gallery in Lahaina for?
Well,
I was represented by Lahaina Galleries the whole time I was here.
Oh,
Okay.
So I never had a gallery here.
I was represented by them and they had galleries on the mainland and the other islands.
It was perfect.
Yeah.
Really perfect.
But boy,
When you moved to Sedona,
Now it's been 10 years?
No.
How many years?
10 or 12.
No.
Maybe 12.
No,
It's longer.
Is it longer?
We moved in 2008.
Oh,
14 years.
Wow,
14 years.
It went so fast.
And I didn't know much about Sedona until after you moved there and then,
Oh my gosh.
It's so beautiful.
It is so beautiful.
I mean,
Your gallery is the finest gallery.
I mean,
I always tell people it's like going into a museum.
It is.
It is.
I agree.
It's like,
Yeah.
I agree.
It is.
Your pieces are just stunning.
Thank you.
And Gary likes to shop.
Well,
He's the one that does it.
I enjoy shopping.
And the thing is,
I kind of shop for my taste,
But then I always look at the other side and if something is creating something that wouldn't necessarily be my taste,
I'd still kind of manage to get it because everybody has their own taste of what they want.
As long as it's nice quality,
That's the main thing.
See,
And that's the difference because if I don't like it,
Why would I put it in my gallery?
However,
Gary has a much broader perspective on it.
Well,
It's not a matter of liking it.
So that's why I'm not the buyer.
Yeah,
It's a matter of what the public wants that's not embarrassing.
Embarrassing?
Well,
You know,
Something that isn't good.
Well,
No.
In fact,
I've seen pieces that I'm going,
That's a huge investment.
I mean,
Some of the amber pieces that you've got,
Oh my gosh,
The amber pieces.
I'm going,
I don't think I'd have the nerve to spend that much money buying that.
But,
You know,
You've never limited yourself or limited the taste and quality of the pieces you've gotten,
Gary.
And I have to say that impresses me because you do think if it's really,
Really beautiful and it's very special,
Someone else is going to see that same thing.
Exactly.
And now the big thing in Sedona is something called Moldavite,
Which is a really,
Really popular stone.
And it was a meteorite that hit the Czech Republic,
I think maybe 7 million years ago.
Kind of greenish,
Isn't it?
Created like a green glass.
Yeah,
I had one or two and I lost them.
Yeah,
So that's.
.
.
It doesn't even look real.
Yeah.
Well,
It looks like glass.
It looks like glass.
Yeah,
Yeah.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
But it's supposed to have very,
Very powerful energy.
I bet it does.
That's it.
I think it does,
Right?
Definitely.
Yeah.
Well,
17 million years old.
Yeah,
Think about it.
But then amber,
I mean,
How old is the amber?
I think 25 million years old.
Yeah,
So there you go.
Amber is.
.
.
And amber actually,
To me,
Is more beautiful.
I love amber.
Amber has that amazing texture to it.
You know,
It's like going into another world.
When I went to the Soviet Union in 1986 or 1987,
They had amber in the hotel I was staying in.
And they had,
You know,
In display cases,
Ginormous beads,
Huge pieces.
And I said to myself,
Ugh,
I never wore brown.
How was that?
I had no idea.
Now I go,
Whoa,
Honey,
You should have bought some.
Okay,
Should we talk about what's going on in the world?
First of all,
I'll lay the foundation that you have done the most amazing pieces for peace.
You started a wonderful project in Sedona called Pieces of Peace.
Is it Pieces for Peace?
Piece by Peace.
Piece by Peace.
Yeah.
Where you had the children do these beautiful,
Inspirational little squares and create artwork.
And then you had them put them all together,
And they were shown in Tlaquepaque.
Right,
We did that three years in a row.
We would collect all the squares from all the kids.
You know,
They were like six inch by six inch squares.
Yeah.
And then we'd put them together like in a quilt form.
And then we'd put all the quilts together.
Yeah.
And we'd end up with,
You know,
Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of these squares.
Amazing.
And they were all about what peace means to me.
Yeah.
It was really sweet.
You know,
The superintendent of schools happened to have been a person who was very eager to promote these things.
So I was very lucky because he got all the schools involved.
You know,
He got fabulous places for us to do it.
So it was really a very,
You know,
A cooperative kind of thing.
It was wonderful.
Yeah,
Absolutely.
It was great.
And you've traveled and you've been to Russia?
Yes,
I was in Russia in 1987.
When Marty Dredd was there.
Yeah,
Marty Dredd went with us.
Yeah,
We took a bunch of kids from Maui.
Yeah.
And it was the first time they allowed anybody to play in Red Square.
And the idea was that kids from,
You know,
All the kids wore the same T-shirts.
So we had kids from all over America and all over the Soviet Union.
And they were all in the same T-shirts.
And CNN was following us.
And they said,
We can't tell who the Russian kids are and who the American kids are.
And we said,
Well,
That's the idea.
Right?
And the whole precept was that when these kids grow up,
They won't want to kill someone in Russia because they have a friend there.
And so many of the kids from Maui married Russian kids.
Wow.
Really?
Oh,
Yes.
Many.
Many of the kids that went to Russia with us.
I didn't know that.
Yes.
Yes.
I just spoke to one of them.
Yeah.
And they have children now.
You know,
Grown children.
Wow.
And what do they say about what's going on?
They're sick.
They're just sick about it.
You know,
None of the Russian people want this.
Yeah.
Can we just make that clear and out there?
People,
It's not about people ever.
No.
It's about the leaders of the countries.
It's not about the people of Russia.
It's not about the people of China.
It's not about the people of any of these countries.
No.
It's about the leaders.
And when I see,
Unfortunately,
Sometimes the prejudice rears its awful head,
As we've seen in the past.
And that just gets me upset.
The Russian tea room having problems.
Oh,
Yeah.
In New York,
Because people don't want to go to the Russian tea room.
It's like,
Well,
No,
Don't be stupid.
These are people that are here that are doing it.
You know,
I just have such compassion for,
I mean,
I have,
Of course,
Compassion for the Ukraine.
I have compassion for the Russian people because they are little puppets.
You know,
When we were there,
They were afraid to even believe that things could change with Gorbachev.
They were afraid to believe it because they've just been disappointed so many times.
But I also feel that they are really going to stand up this time.
Well,
They have.
Because,
You know,
They were in this world.
They had the Internet.
They had Facebook.
They were part of the world.
And now they've been completely cut off.
And you know how we feel when our phone doesn't work.
Oh,
Yeah.
Or I can't get on Facebook or I can't get e-mail.
I mean,
We go bananas.
So this is the entire country.
They've done this,
Too.
So I really don't,
I think that there,
I'm not quite sure how or what,
But I think there's going to be an inner uprising.
Yeah.
There is.
Because the people just aren't going to take it.
They've had freedom.
I forget how many.
I really forget how many Russians have been imprisoned.
And I know it's over 4,
000 or 5,
000.
And that was a couple of days ago and even more.
Well,
There was a woman,
Though,
Who got up and held up a sign.
I saw that.
And they let her go.
Yes.
They gave her a fine.
They gave her a fine.
They fined her.
But with the caveat that they were going to continue the investigation.
Yes,
Yes,
Yes.
And she's worried about her family.
When I was in Russia,
I really never wanted to return.
However,
The people were precious.
They were the nicest,
Warmest,
Most loving people.
I'm still in touch with many of them.
I mean,
They were just,
They were precious people.
Yeah.
And it's not the people.
No.
You know,
It's the leaders.
It's the leaders.
And it's so,
So hard.
And the people pay the price.
I mean,
If you think of.
Oh,
My God.
And what's happening with the Ukraine.
I mean,
It breaks my heart.
You know,
I was told.
I do not have to watch the news because I was told I'm here to hold the light.
I'm not here to get caught up in that.
I'm really not.
I mean,
Honestly,
You know,
I know I came back to hold the light.
And that's what I'm doing.
And if you're watching it and you're in fear or you're making anyone wrong,
All it's doing is taking away your peace and your peace from the world.
And right now,
We need all the light we can muster,
Really.
I totally agree.
We really do.
I totally agree.
And I believe that's why we came here.
You know,
That's why we're here at this time.
Well,
On top of that,
People having come from two years in COVID and so already beaten down and depressed.
Oh,
Yeah.
Definitely,
For sure.
Now are feeling overwhelmed and depressed and upset.
And that's never a good thing.
You have this world consciousness,
The collective consciousness.
And when you have that much angst and pain and sorrow and depression,
It brings everything down.
I'm like the stock market.
That's why I'm holding the light.
That's the reason.
I swear to God,
That's exactly what I tell anyone else.
And on top of that,
You know this and I know this,
There's so many more people doing good in the world than the people who are doing bad.
Of course.
So many people who are helping.
So that light has to just gather together.
All those people doing good who want peace,
Who want all this,
Have to just really hold the light.
Because where there's enough light,
There cannot be darkness.
And what's happening now?
There's a lot of evil,
Literally.
Well,
But the other side of this,
And I've thought about this so much,
Andrea,
Where there's more light and there is more light,
You also shine in the shadows more.
And what we're seeing is what's being revealed in the shadows that were before hidden because there is more light and it's showing the shadows out more.
So we're having to deal with the shadows that were hidden before.
And now these things,
With the Internet,
With everything else we have,
The hidden things are being revealed.
Well,
This is a time where nothing can be hidden.
Exactly.
You know what's also interesting?
A friend of mine sent me a thing about the Hopi prophecies.
And we're in,
I guess,
We're going into the fifth world.
And whichever world,
We're in the fourth world right now,
I guess.
But this world is being ruled by white people.
It's been white people are given like the spark right now.
And I find it very interesting to see that it's a white man's war.
In our own country,
It's white men and privilege.
I mean,
It's truly about white men at this moment.
I mean,
This is what's like threatening the whole world,
You know,
This white man's war.
According to the Hopis.
According to the Hopis.
And it seems to ring true with me,
To be honest.
When you look at it,
When you see all the different nations on the planet,
And this is what has been focused,
Right?
So it's very interesting.
It's just,
You know,
So I'm just praying.
We can make it through.
There's still time and we can change things,
Of course,
At this moment.
But we really have to work on it.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah,
We do.
We really have to work on it.
And you do beautifully with your art.
I mean,
I love all of your art.
I always have.
And it always is about a lot of the joining together of peace.
But the other element,
And it is Women's History Month.
I'm recording this.
You always have embraced the feminine and feminine around the world.
You've always shown in your pictures women holding hands,
Women dancing together.
The Egyptian woman,
Even going back to then,
The woman of Bali,
The woman always.
Well,
I'm a woman.
I know that best.
However,
I know the feminine vibration is needed very much right now.
I mean,
All of it's needed.
But we need to soften up a bit.
Well,
I think it's the time.
I think the divine feminine,
I mean,
Over the last 2,
000 years,
It has been more the masculine energy.
And I really believe the divine feminine will be the next 2,
000 years.
I believe so,
Too.
And also,
I paint a lot of male-female imagery.
You do balanced.
Balanced male-female,
Yeah.
Because,
You know,
The only way out is within.
That's it.
And you have to balance the two sides of your brain.
We have a right brain and a left brain,
Logical and intuitive.
You've got to balance them.
And it's up to each person to be a balanced individual.
That's how we'll all be balanced.
But it's really,
You know,
It's personal responsibility.
Now,
You two have been together a long time.
Oh,
My goodness.
How many years?
We've been married 50 years.
Knowing each other probably 61 years.
Wow.
But we're going to be married.
And working together because you work together.
Well,
We can't do the same thing.
We're working together since probably 1977.
A very long time.
But I paint,
And he can't,
And he sells,
And I can't.
Yeah.
I mean,
We have different sides of the brain we're using.
Yeah.
So it really works pretty well.
Again,
That balance.
Now,
When you go to Egypt,
And I know you had another life in Egypt.
I mean,
Even the first time I saw you,
My God,
That Egyptian energy is so there in you.
And you've gone to Egypt now how many times?
Well,
Since 1994.
A lot.
Probably.
20 times maybe.
25 times.
Wow.
I stopped counting.
I really did.
I stopped counting.
A lot.
25 times.
I've been in that pyramid,
You know,
Many,
Many times.
What experiences did you have because you're so bonded together?
What experiences did you have with that energy in the pyramid?
Because you have done it so right with some powerful people.
I remember some of those ones were in the early days with what's his name?
Kevin.
Kevin,
Yeah.
Yeah.
The third time I was in there,
I had an experience where I literally left my body,
And I came back into it,
You know,
Maybe 45 minutes later,
And I had these red lines on the inside of my arms and the inside of my legs,
And I thought I was bit by something.
And Kevin said,
No,
That's an energy rash from coming back into your body so quickly.
And it was the completion of initiation.
And I really accepted that.
And then,
Like,
For 20 more years,
22 more years,
I waited for that to happen again.
Nothing ever happened.
It was a beautiful experience.
It was meditative.
But I never had that kind of out-of-body thing.
And then right before the pandemic in 2019 in December,
We were in there,
And I stopped expecting anything really,
You know.
So I laid down.
And the second I laid down,
I had,
Like,
This pillar of light went right through my head and out my feet,
And it just stayed there.
Coming vertically down,
Horizontally?
Right,
And I was laying down right through it.
This is in the king's chamber.
In the king's chamber when we laid down.
We'd turn off the lights for about 45 minutes,
And we'd meditate.
And so the second I laid down,
That happened.
And the same words went through my mind.
You know,
Where am I?
And myself said,
Do you care?
You know,
What is this?
Myself said,
Do you care?
I said,
No,
And that was it.
And so I was just gone for,
Like,
Another 45 minutes.
I came back into my body.
My phone stopped working for about six weeks.
I could not get a phone.
I was completely out of touch.
And then the pandemic hit.
Wow.
I know.
I hadn't heard that story before.
Yeah,
And so I was completely reset,
Completely.
Wow.
Right?
Gary went in the hospital for six weeks.
I mean,
It was just awful.
I didn't go in the pyramid,
Though,
I remember.
No,
You did not.
Oh,
You weren't in the pyramid.
No,
No.
He doesn't go in anymore.
It's kind of a long step up to the top,
And I've been to the top.
Yeah,
He's done it.
A few times.
But I took Lexi.
I wasn't going to miss this time.
I do every time.
It has a pretty low ceiling,
As I remember.
For a little while.
In places,
For sure.
You have to bend down for a little while.
You bend over.
Yeah,
Yeah.
And yeah,
So there is that.
And I remember you took your daughter,
Lexi.
She was 14.
My granddaughter went this year.
Your granddaughter.
She was 14.
12.
Well,
My granddaughter,
12.
Yeah,
This year we took her.
She's going next year,
Too.
She loved it.
That's same energy,
Right?
She loves it.
It's the same energy.
That's so sweet.
And there's something about the Egyptian statues that really speak to me.
I mean,
I guess people either get it or they don't,
But I can stand in front of those statues and feel like they're speaking to me in an energy balance.
You talked about the balance of male and female.
They're futuristic.
They're ancient futuristic.
Something about them,
And even the way they're designed,
Are so completely .
.
.
And I don't get it from the pictures.
They're futuristic.
Yeah.
But when I stand there,
It's like .
.
.
They're so streamlined.
They're gorgeous.
They just absolutely speak to me.
I agree.
So smooth,
You know,
For thousands of years old,
And the black granite.
Yeah,
Yeah.
And I think,
I mean,
You went to the places I love a lot,
Some I haven't gone to,
But I still think that the place that is the most amazing is the ones that have those huge,
Huge statues.
And it starts with an L,
But Luxor.
Luxor.
Luxor Temple.
Luxor still speaks to me.
It's gorgeous.
Because of all of those huge .
.
.
I mean,
How .
.
.
Those are about .
.
.
They're ginormous.
And they put a lot of them back together.
Oh,
Did they?
Oh,
Yeah.
They find parts of them.
They keep .
.
.
Yes.
You know,
Making them into statues again.
It's amazing.
It is.
I mean,
They keep .
.
.
The thing with Egypt is they keep building it.
They keep rebuilding what was there.
But when they keep discovering,
Too.
And now they've started cleaning the temples.
They're incredible.
Yeah.
The colors are back.
The colors are back.
Lots of blue and gold,
Right?
Blue,
Gold,
Orange.
Lots of blues.
They're gorgeous.
I mean,
They're just .
.
.
And that amazing blue,
Right?
Yeah.
That cobalt color.
It really stayed.
That cobalt is so powerful,
Right?
Yeah.
It stayed.
It's so beautiful.
I mean,
It really is.
And to see the things come back together.
And we've watched temples be recreated.
It's pretty amazing.
You haven't been yet to the new museum.
It's not open.
It was supposed to be open when we were there.
I'm wondering how they're going to get people around it so bad.
But they opened another new museum called the New Museum of Cairo.
Of ancient cultures,
I think.
Of ancient cultures,
Which is excellent.
Beautiful.
I didn't know about that one.
It's a mini,
Mini,
Mini version of the new museum,
Which is a million,
200,
000 square feet.
It's just .
.
.
It's easy to negotiate.
Just two levels.
They just take the best things from certain periods.
It's really .
.
.
It's my kind of museum.
I'm not big on museums.
And they also have a lot of mummies.
It was like the Cliff Notes of reading a novel.
Right.
The Cliff Notes.
Oh,
Okay.
I get it.
Exactly.
So that one is right .
.
.
Is that also in the same area?
They're right before the .
.
.
It's in Cairo itself.
Right.
Not in the Giza area.
Oh,
Interesting.
And it's just brand new.
It's where the president walked down the aisle of the mummies when they unveiled like 20 mummies.
That's what it's famous for.
Right.
They have the mummies there.
They have a mummy museum there.
I didn't hear about that one at all.
All I've heard about is that humongous one that's going to be like so big,
You know?
It's supposed to be opening for the past six,
Seven years.
Yeah.
It's been opening for quite a long time.
Well,
You know,
When you're doing something that big,
Right?
It's huge.
I mean,
It's huge.
I mean,
It's just huge.
I don't even know how they're doing it.
Well,
I think that they say .
.
.
Well,
Like you said,
For years they've been saying it.
You know,
Last night we went out in Lahaina and Mark Ellman has that restaurant Frida's.
Yeah.
So we went there with friends of ours and we got to see .
.
.
Eric Gilliam.
Eric Gilliam was playing.
Oh,
Eric.
I love Eric.
We saw our old doctor.
Yeah.
We saw so many people.
It was so sweet.
We went with Chuck and Gail,
You know?
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
It was so much fun.
It was really lovely.
I mean,
Really a nice Lahaina evening.
We saw Mark.
Uh-huh.
I haven't seen him in a while.
He was in the .
.
.
Yeah.
He was there.
Yeah,
He was in the restaurant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was beautiful.
Really beautiful.
How nice.
It was lovely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was.
And the moon on the water and all that magic that's right there.
Oh my God.
All of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We were very blessed.
Absolutely blessed,
You know?
And there is this energy on Maui,
As you're very aware of,
And there's this energy in Sedona,
As you're very aware of.
And you know,
It's so funny because people have now been turned on to the idea of vortexes.
When I go there,
It's just like,
It's all like that.
Of course it is.
I mean,
People just like,
It's not like you go to one spot and you get .
.
.
No.
No.
I know.
You know,
It's like,
Whenever I go out in a trail there and I sit there .
.
.
It is.
It just is.
Yeah.
It's all.
Yeah.
So here's the deal with the vortexes.
Okay.
And I understand how you feel exactly.
Somebody,
His name was Sutphen,
Came there years ago.
It was a girlfriend of mine's husband who passed away recently.
Dick Sutphen.
Dick Sutphen.
And he wrote a book and everything,
And he named each vortex.
Uh-huh.
This is da-da-da,
Airport vortex.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So those were his vortexes.
Yeah.
But like you said,
I agree with you.
You can find it in most places.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Yeah.
Especially if you're willing to absorb.
Yeah.
I mean,
I go out walking when I go to Sedona and I miss it.
It's been a couple of years.
And I have to say,
There's this amazing energy everywhere.
And you can't help but feel the Native American influence,
Especially out there when you go up the campus.
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