Crossing Over With Pasquale And Dr. Traci Moreno

Pasquale and Dr. Traci Moreno discuss what they believe about crossing over to the spiritual realm after death. They also share how their understanding of the idea of death and how it is a vital step on their personal journey towards spiritual growth and self-realization.

Transcript

Hey!

Hi!

This is Pasquale.

Dr.

Tracey.

How is everyone doing today?

I always,

When you ask that,

Are you waiting for a response?

I am!

Because I'm energetically feeling responses from people and we are connecting a little bit.

Yeah.

So today,

This is Crossing Over with Pasquale and Tracey.

Yeah.

And we're going to talk about the Crossing Over experience.

Yeah,

What we know about it,

You know,

Because really a lot of people,

All of us,

Right?

Our human experience can't comprehend death.

And so we are very terrified and scared of it.

And so I think this can,

I think talks like this can help.

Absolutely.

You know,

Because it doesn't have to be so terrifying.

There's nothing scary about it.

Anyone who has died,

They're not scared.

It's not scary.

And I was going to say like,

Oh,

Did they tell you?

But yes,

They actually did.

I've had a couple of conversations here and there.

In my 20s,

Especially,

Because I was like,

I think that's when I was very much into kind of like death and dying.

Right.

Like I'm a Scorpio.

That's like one of my big like draws in life.

And I will tell you like that was something that I always looked into.

I always looked at it.

I was trying to understand the death and dying.

So I went to the source.

Yeah.

And I was like,

So tell me what it was like.

What do I need to expect?

And I got a really solid understanding.

So what is your take on that?

You know,

It goes back to,

For me,

Like this whole Crossing Over part really goes back to that whole kind of dance between the ego and spirit.

Right.

It's that dance that we have through life.

Right.

And when we start to get closer to that moment where we're about to leave this earthly experience and move back into our spiritual experience,

That dance continues and the ego likes to really hold on.

Right.

And so that's the part that like it doesn't want to die.

The ego wants to continue to live.

I've read that in some spiritual books that if we are scared and our ego does hold on,

Those are the people who have like a more like drawn out process of death.

And the people who you hear of that just like died instantly are the people that we're more accepting.

Sure.

Okay.

Agree.

And the thing to keep in mind,

Because I always go back to is that one of the number one questions that I get is,

Is when you're in the process of dying,

Is there pain?

It's like the spirit doesn't feel pain.

The ego does.

Right.

But you're,

As you start to cross,

You're kind of already separating,

Right?

The ego is just grasping and holding on.

And so there's not that overall like,

Oh,

They suffered.

So I've also heard the beliefs that when we are dying,

Say there's something traumatic of the reason that we're dying.

I've heard that the soul kind of begins to leave the body or can come in and out.

And so they're not experiencing,

As we would think of somebody dying in such an awful way.

And a lot of times in the grieving process,

People get stuck on that because they almost put themselves in that position and to feel what they may have felt.

Yeah.

And I'm like,

That's not the same.

That's not the same thing.

Because if our soul is kind of leaving or even coming in and out.

And what I refer to is you watch these documentaries on,

I think there's different ones on people surviving these traumatic experiences.

And they'll even tell you that they don't remember.

They don't remember anything.

Like it felt,

They'll just say it felt like I was like,

You know,

Hit by a truck.

Like it could be like they were like stabbed or shot or,

You know,

Something,

Something pretty brutal.

And you know,

But they say they don't,

It didn't feel like anything.

And a lot of them like,

And maybe that's the shock.

I said 30 seconds.

It's that 30 seconds.

What 35?

Like,

It's the,

It's the way I describe a lot of times it's,

It's this impulsiveness in our bodies,

Right?

It takes 30 seconds.

So if like you're in that moment of like an impact,

It's 30 seconds.

By that time you're already out.

Wait.

I know.

Wait,

I don't.

I don't.

Wait,

I don't get it though.

I think that was too deep for me.

I didn't get it.

No.

I know how I didn't hear it.

30 seconds for like if something happened to our body physically that was like making it die,

Like for our brain to,

It to signal our brain to understand what was happening.

It's so that,

That pain,

Right?

Yeah.

It's,

It's,

It's 30 seconds and then they're moved.

So like they don't feel it because the body doesn't register it.

Okay.

Until they've already passed.

So is it kind of.

Okay.

Don't you feel it?

Put your hands,

You know,

Somebody puts their hands on a hot stove.

They still get burned because it takes a,

It takes that 30 second time.

Okay.

It takes that much time for you to register that pain,

Right?

So when you're going through that,

It's the exact same.

30 seconds.

I've never heard that.

I've heard of the five second rule.

Okay.

So it's a little different.

And some of us are five second was a little longer.

My son is like 25 seconds.

Oh my God.

My thing that could be like 30 minutes.

It's all good.

It's all good.

I mean,

You haven't brought all of this existence where everyone's in,

But it's like 30 seconds.

It's like that impulse.

It takes it that long for that to register.

So if you think of it that way,

Right?

Someone who's had a traumatic experience,

Right?

A stabbing,

Let's use stabbing.

That's what you use.

Okay.

Right.

Like a stabbing there.

It's fatal,

Right?

They're already,

They're already separating and moving by that time their body is registering the pain,

Which is why a lot of times in my,

From my perspective,

Why sometimes they don't realize they're dead is because it happened so fast.

You know what I mean?

Okay.

It's like the crossing over process.

They're like,

Wait,

What?

What just happened?

And then they'll see the light or they'll see someone or the,

And they'll feel their people that they love and they'll recognize things.

Right.

But it's,

It's all energetic.

It's an energetic shift.

Right.

And a lot of survivors on these documentaries have come,

Like come back and like,

And been able to like just dial the phone or dial 911 or something like that.

And that's generally like all they remember.

But they'll say like,

There's almost like an anesthesia in the body.

Like,

Cause it's not,

They're not processing that pain.

It's like,

I think of it as like,

It's just overload.

So I mean,

It's that,

It's that adrenaline rush,

Right?

The adrenaline,

Our body does have some of that,

Right?

But yeah,

That,

That to me is like,

There,

There are so many great books out there that talk about this.

Right.

And one of my favorites is like,

She,

She talks about the fact that like she died of cancer and in that moment she didn't feel cancer.

She felt her husband crying and her mom being sad,

Like in different countries and different parts of the world all at the same time,

Recognizing,

Oh shit,

Oh darn it,

I'm dead.

And then going,

What do I do?

Right.

Like recognizing that and then starting the crossover,

Actually crossing and then coming back cancer-free.

Wow.

Like,

And,

And it's all just part of that experience,

Right?

It's like you,

The crossing over part is pretty,

I think.

I recently read a book that talks about that experience.

Okay.

I know,

I know exactly the case study you're talking about.

Okay.

My favorite.

There's a couple of different ones that reference that.

We'll come here after.

It's on that shelf.

Okay.

But like,

Like I think the,

The key is,

Is like,

Is to recognize for us is,

You know,

If you are afraid of death,

Right?

The thing to kind of grasp in,

From my perspective,

Which what I did was,

Was kind of look at it and go,

What do you believe?

Right.

And it goes back down to faith.

And I'm a big believer that,

You know,

Whether you come from a religious background,

Whether you come from a spiritual background,

Whether you come from an atheist background,

You still have a belief.

Yeah.

Right.

And it's that belief that gives you kind of that,

Where you kind of land with it.

But I always just say,

Like,

If you think about it,

Right,

If love is the vibration that is running everything,

Which I know that sometimes we don't feel it in the world,

But it truly is,

Right?

If that's the vibration,

Then death can't be,

It's just transformation.

So kind of recognize and kind of grasp that it's not the end.

Yeah.

Well,

I mean,

Some people even go further to,

You know,

In philosophy to say like,

There actually is no death,

But,

You know,

We're talking about,

Of course,

Like the death of our human body,

Our human form,

And then transitioning into spirit.

But the actual,

Our energy,

Our soul,

Our spirit,

Whatever you want to refer to it as,

That does not change at all.

That's just moving on.

It gets bigger.

Yeah.

It's bigger.

It expands.

It's more energized.

You feel more like yourself.

That sounds pretty great.

Okay.

So let's talk about like what,

Okay,

So that's the actual,

Like when it happens,

Like when the actual death happens.

So then like,

What do you know about the process from there?

The process from when it happens?

Yeah.

So what I've always understood is,

Is that you get pulled and you're kind of present for a little while and your energy slowly gets kind of reattached to like source,

Right?

To like that main energy that we're derived from,

Right?

Yeah.

And so as it begins to reattach that,

It has to re-assimilate,

Right?

So you go through a process of kind of letting go of the human,

Right?

Which to me,

If you look at it,

It's kind of that like judgment,

But I wouldn't really call it judgment.

It's more of like a review of your life,

Kind of a review of what you've experienced in this life.

What have you learned?

How have you grown?

You know,

How's your energy taken a different shape because of it?

And it slowly starts to move.

And as you go through that download and kind of that process,

You start to re-assimilate with like source and that's where you start to be expansive and can visit,

Right?

And I did skip,

Of course,

Because as you're being pulled,

Like you get greeted by everyone who's had a part in your life,

Who has crossed.

What's interesting is in my research and reading as well,

It's,

You know,

We think of like,

I think of like,

Oh,

I want to be greeted by my dogs who passed or like,

You know,

You're going to have your,

Like your,

Your loved ones that have passed.

But there's also people from past lives that like,

I guess,

Consciously,

We don't even,

We don't even know that.

But like,

That's like really cool.

That was like a little mind blowing for me to think of like,

Oh my God,

I could have like other dogs and other loved ones and,

You know,

From other lives that are that are just waiting.

Yeah.

You know,

It's,

It's,

It goes back to,

And we referred to this in one of the past episodes.

I don't remember which one,

Probably the last one,

Where it's like,

You have your like birth family,

Like your human family.

Oh,

Right.

Yeah.

And then there's this like soul family.

So when you actually leave,

Right,

Like what I've experienced,

And I've actually sat through several more than,

I would say,

Double handed times where I've sat with someone who was dying or crossing,

Right.

And,

And the piece that I always see in every single case is I see the energy getting expansive.

I can feel the angels coming forward.

I can see them acknowledging those,

Those beings,

Right.

And they typically,

I think we talked about this,

I don't remember if we talked about it offline,

But like,

It's the number one thing.

Everyone always says mom,

Like every time it's,

They see their mom and it's their mom who's comforting them,

Kind of helping them through it.

Right.

And as they kind of move into this like party of souls,

Right,

This energy,

They start to get through there.

And as they start to enter that,

They slowly start to leave.

Right.

And that's where they kind of remingle with kind of that soul family,

That energetic group that they've started.

So it's not necessarily even the mom in,

In this life.

It could be a mom from a past life or it could be another energy that you refer to in your soul family as mom.

It's not,

It doesn't have to be so literal.

It felt pretty literal to me,

Like in each of the times,

Like I,

And I sat with my grandfather when,

When he was crossing and,

And I remember him saying mom and he was like calling his mom and then speaking in Italian to her.

And I can tell that he was talking to the woman that I knew as his mom.

So I,

A friend of mine,

I was with her when her mom was crossing and it was the same thing.

She was talking to her mom.

I can tell that it was her mom that actually raised her.

But you have to remember the energy is different than the mom that you would have experienced in this life.

Right.

Right.

You're looking,

You're thinking of something with pure love.

Right.

Right.

So it's a very different.

Right.

You don't have all the pain with it.

Just the love.

Yeah.

I would imagine that even somebody who maybe doesn't know their mom,

Right,

Like my kids are adopted and you know,

One of them really doesn't know their mom.

And I would imagine that when he crosses,

He's probably going to see her as kind of that person that he's kind of reconnected with that,

That kind of,

Like,

It's just the comfort I believe,

You know,

That you get from that.

And if your parents haven't crossed,

It's going to be the next figure.

Right.

But when we're talking older,

Like it's typically mom.

And once that happens,

You know,

They kind of mingle for a little while,

They stick around.

I do think they like to visit their funerals,

To be really honest.

I've heard that.

They're like,

Not.

They're not.

They're there.

They're coming along with you and your family.

They're giving the energy of it.

Right.

There's support in it.

Um,

I,

I,

I was,

There was a tragic death.

I'm a friend of mine,

His,

He had a tragic death in his family and,

And she was next to him as he was speaking and,

And,

You know,

Every time you put her,

She put her arm around him,

He started crying and,

And he didn't know that,

But like,

I can see it and sit and they're going,

Oh,

This is really,

Really,

Really tough,

You know,

But it's just because they know,

Right.

Yeah.

They understand.

I think that's the key.

Right.

Is that you have to realize it's not scary.

So you have to take the fear out of it and go to love.

Yeah.

The love of it is,

Is they understand and they want to be with you and they want to support you.

Right.

But they also have to kind of continue to shed the hue in.

Well,

And I always say two funerals are for us.

It's for us to be able to grieve and gain that closure.

They're fine.

It's the ones with the problem is us,

The ones left behind here now having that loss in our life.

Yeah.

The physical loss.

I,

I 100% agree.

Like I,

I actually have said,

Like,

I don't want a funeral.

I don't want a funeral.

Oh,

I know.

Me neither.

Just take me,

Burn me up,

Drop me somewhere.

I want the Irish,

The Irish way that I want.

I will celebrate you before it's time.

I promise.

I got you.

I got you.

Okay.

So I have also read that there's a process of whatever our beliefs of kind of death,

Like it,

Like,

Let's say for somebody that does not believe that there's heaven or like really does believe in hell.

And that's a whole nother can of worms that we won't go down right now.

But,

Um,

Let's say somebody does really believe in,

In hell and I forgot to half thing.

Yeah,

No.

The shelf.

Yeah.

But,

Um,

So it's hard to explain.

So I guess when they,

When they cross over,

They will still have to deal with their own version,

Perception of what they believe,

Because what,

What we believe is actually what we experienced as soon as we cross over.

And there's like guides that can help us through that process,

But some people can get stuck there and that's like considered their hell.

You know,

That's totally okay.

That's not shedding the part because you have to shed the human,

Right?

The human idea,

The human ideologies that we have,

Right?

The reality is,

And how I will kind of explain it from my perspective,

Right?

So my truth of it is,

Is that we create,

If you look at you today,

Right?

Today we are here in this room.

I'm creating the world that I'm living in today,

Right?

And so everything that happens is a result of what I have created.

Well,

Our perception is our reality.

Exactly.

Right.

So like believe is half of.

So the same thing is.

And when you cross,

You carry those same ideals over.

And so that is what you're creating,

Right?

Because you're still,

I know I'm energy,

I know I've crossed,

But I still remember being human,

Right?

Like you still.

That transition period.

It's that transition period where you can either kind of shed that and move past it and learn past it to get back into that real space,

Right?

Back into heaven or that source.

So if you are really,

And this is what I've read is,

So if people are really kind of like stubborn and fixed on their belief system,

And that is like not changing no matter what,

They obviously have a harder time and they're going to stay in that kind of like purgatory or whatever they believe.

For as long until.

Right.

Until they can actually process through that.

Wouldn't it be,

This is kind of like a philosophical rhetorical question,

But it's like,

Wouldn't it be better even if you have those beliefs?

You can have your beliefs,

But I'm kind of like,

I have my beliefs,

I'm very strong in those beliefs,

But I also have like an opening to go,

But who knows?

And to me,

I think that's so much better than just going,

Nope,

This is it.

I agree.

I agree.

Then you don't like put yourself in a position ever,

Even in life,

Of being like stuck.

It's so the truth,

But you have to remember there are different perspectives,

Right?

Some people,

Some souls,

Their whole journey is to just be human,

Right?

And understand this version of what they've been born into,

Which could be that stuck repetitive belief in something,

Right?

And there's other people who are like,

No,

My blinders are off and totally open and looking through the world in a different way.

And I'm open to something different.

It all varies.

Right.

But that transitional period isn't only even when you're like your version of earth,

Right?

Or your version of death,

Right?

That's part of it,

But you can also get stuck there if you have like a deep hurt that you recognize now was a deep hurt that you caused and you're looking for that forgiveness from someone who's currently here,

Right?

That can get them stuck into that shedding area too,

Because they're not ready to move because they're trying to resolve it,

Right?

You know,

I was a real bad parent and I hurt my kids and I was really bad.

This is hypothetical.

Hypothetical.

I'm so sorry.

I don't think I'm a bad parent.

I don't believe my kids would say that.

But yes,

Hypothetical.

Depending on the daddy.

You know,

We all have our own understanding of what a bad is,

But like you could be that like really kind of like mean spirited person,

Right?

And cause harm.

And when you finally get to that shedding spot,

You're like,

Oh my God,

What did I do?

And try to get that forgiveness from that person that you caused harm to,

Right?

And that person can choose to forgive you or not,

Right?

And if they choose not to,

It could get you stuck there for a little while because you want to make amends for it.

But it's like putting yourself,

It goes back to like putting yourself in your own kind of purgatory.

Exactly.

It's not like it's being done to you.

No.

It's like the,

Everything that I've read is like this,

It all comes from within.

It's us.

We're creating that.

Believe is half of me.

It's totally what we believe.

Like it's that,

It's what we,

It's just like today though.

Freeing to me.

Totally.

You know?

But it's the same as like when you look at the world today,

Right?

I can choose to wake up and be crabby and grumpy.

And guess what?

Like you did this morning.

Like her voice does something to me.

Very true.

I'm allowed to be crabby.

I'm allowed to look after the world.

It's like,

Well,

Look,

Look.

I'm just a little bit,

I don't care if it's how we're not.

But I chose that,

Right?

I did.

I chose it.

I even said it to you.

I was like,

Hey,

I'm crabby today.

Yeah.

Cause I was feeling a little crabby.

Right?

Right.

Now,

Do I need to stay in that energy?

No,

I can choose not to be.

Right.

Right.

It's that choice.

That's the key to kind of living in this life.

You know,

Sometimes we like to place the blame on what's happening on astrology or God or people.

Right.

But ultimately it's us making those choices.

Right.

And those are the same choices that I believe happens when you leave.

You get to make choices.

Yeah.

Choices are great.

I know.

It's such a fun topic.

It can be a little dark though.

It's a tough one.

Right.

And I would always say like,

You know,

It's always good that if you're ever in a space like this and you need to talk,

I think it's seeking the people that can talk about it.

Right.

Yeah.

I'm sure.

Commenting below is always a great way because we will definitely respond to what our beliefs are.

We're going to helping you guide through it.

But I will tell you the one thing that I learned is,

Is that it's the fear.

If you can release the fear of death,

It really isn't scary.

Well,

And it helps us in life,

You know,

Because a lot of times,

I mean,

What holds us back in life is some fear of some sort.

Right.

And when we're no longer scared like that,

The world is just opened up to us and we can really do anything.

It's 100% I mean,

It's powerful.

And the fear is powerful too.

Fear kills love.

It's the opposite.

Right.

They're the same.

Yeah.

It's just two different polarities in the same energy.

Which one do you choose?

The fear or the love?

Right.

And I think it's,

It's a good idea.

Like for me,

It's always a good idea to go into a practice of releasing fear.

Like whenever you see the fear,

You have to release it.

I find that death is a topic that people are so fearful of,

In fact,

That they're not even sure of their belief system.

And no matter what their beliefs,

What your beliefs are,

I think it's really important to kind of explore that and figure that out because that will help you through it.

Because like we said,

We're all going to experience it.

It's going to happen to,

You know,

Everybody we,

We love and us.

And,

You know,

Obviously it's inevitable.

So like as humans,

We can't afford to be that scared of it.

Obviously.

Is it,

Is it awful?

Is it scary?

Yes.

But it doesn't have to be to the level,

Like,

Because I think we go into complete denial about it.

And then when it happens,

We're like,

Just,

I mean,

Thrown off and destroyed.

I agree.

I will tell you,

Like,

I,

One of the things that I want to kind of like highlight is,

Is when we're talking about not fearing death,

It doesn't mean that you can't feel sad.

Right.

Right.

Like we're human.

We're supposed to feel our emotions.

Yeah.

Emotions.

Good point.

Is the thing that makes us human.

Right.

So for me,

It's like,

You know,

If someone crosses,

I feel sad for that.

I feel sad for that loss.

Whether it's still going to go through the grieving process.

Totally.

But I'm not afraid of where they're going.

Right.

Right.

Like to me,

That's not even a question.

It's just that I'm not going to see you or talk to you or be a part of your life the way I was used to.

And so what we end up processing with grief is,

Is that loss for us,

What that means for us in processing that,

That pain.

And you know,

Also in,

In talking to anybody who has recently lost a loved one,

I say be really careful because a lot of times we tend to,

Even if when we do have these strong spiritual or religious beliefs or that they are in a better place or,

You know,

They're in heaven or whatever it might be.

You know,

When you say that to somebody in the beginning,

Oh my gosh,

Like you just want to punch him in the face because that is not the time or the place in the beginning of the grieving process.

Because I mean,

That's just in a time where you are validating your own grief and that's okay.

But really there's no words.

So I'm kind of getting off on a different topic.

But what I recommend in those moments is to just be there,

Be present,

Say,

I'm thinking about you.

I love you.

You know,

Give them a hand on the shoulder,

Hold their hand,

Give them a hug.

No words are needed.

I love you.

I'm here.

That,

I mean.

Yeah.

And if they're virtual hugs,

There's little memes that have these virtual hugs.

Yeah.

They do wonders.

Yeah.

I mean,

I'm reading the text now and again and saying,

I'm thinking about you.

Let me know what you need or asking somebody,

What,

What can I do?

You know,

But,

But saying any kind of giving any,

Like,

Oh,

They're in a better place now.

They're in heaven.

They're not,

You know,

Even if that's that person's belief,

It's just not the time.

Right.

Well,

They're experiencing a loss.

Yeah.

And I think it's important to be present in the loss.

Right.

Right.

They,

They'll come to terms with it later in time.

Later on in the,

In the,

That's towards like the end of the grieving process when they get more towards acceptance.

And then that belief sets them free.

You know,

Then that really helps them let go and accept and heal.

I totally agree.

Yeah.

One of the things that I think is important that you,

You didn't talk about,

Because I think it's an important one is I have a big believer that you should explore what those options are.

Yeah.

I mean,

I will tell you in college,

I,

I wasn't a spiritual,

Like that wasn't my major,

But I took a lot of spiritual classes.

And the whole reason that I took almost every religion,

Dying was the big one for me was understanding because I wanted to kind of prove my people wrong,

To be really honest,

Because sometimes sometimes that's the motivation.

So I have to just have to try to prove the dead wrong.

And,

And,

But like,

I,

I will tell you,

Like,

It helps.

And what I always go back to whenever it's kind of like learning,

Right.

About these types of topics is always remember,

Like my,

It's the,

My favorite thing that Buddha said was,

Was listen to what everyone has to say and take what feels right to you.

Yeah.

And that to me is the key when it comes to death and dying.

It's like the crossing over part.

It's what do you believe and what do you want to believe?

Right.

Because remember you create that.

It's a choice too.

So make the choice that you feel good about,

Not necessarily the choices that you're told,

You know,

And I think exploring those.

And it's that choice,

Choosing to believe that they're there,

That they're here with you still in spirit.

If that helps you heal and it helps you feel better and move on in life,

Then why not believe it?

It costs you nothing.

And it,

And they are.

Yeah.

I mean.

Well,

I truly believe that.

They are.

And a lot of people who question it are like,

You know,

And it's like,

Choose,

Figure it out,

Research it a little bit more,

Figure it out.

Because really,

I mean,

It's such a huge part of our lives that we can't afford not to kind of follow that up and research it.

You know,

We research how many hours do we spend and days and weeks and,

You know,

Researching birth,

Like random,

No,

I'm talking about like even stupid stuff online.

Well,

I mean,

We're sure you can go down the rabbit hole and like,

Stop.

But like,

You know,

Something like this,

It really,

I don't think we give it the attention that it needs.

Because it's here.

And so we don't like,

That's the difference,

Right?

Like when you talk to people who are like having a baby,

Right,

Whether that's actually conceiving or adopting,

Like you're bringing a life into your home,

You learn everything you can.

Right.

You talk to people,

You read all the books,

Like you come up with your own idea of how you're going to parent,

Right?

Because it's love.

So you're like excited about it.

Death is just the other side of the circle.

You should also kind of explore that a little bit.

Because it's not as scary as sometimes we're taught or expected to believe.

Well,

I feel like a lot of people,

The fear will cause that resistance for them to not do it.

And then all of a sudden you go into like this denial as if it's not going to happen.

Yeah.

It's not going to happen to you.

And I'm like,

Well,

I got news for you,

You know,

It's going to happen.

You know,

And so it's,

It's not going to like,

You know,

Burst your reality bubble.

You know,

It's,

And if any,

The more we learn,

Education really is power,

Right?

So the more you do,

It does help decrease that fear,

Even if you are an atheist,

You know?

Yeah.

So,

I mean,

That's,

That's fine.

You know,

No matter what you believe.

Atheists have belief.

Right.

It's still a belief.

It's,

It's,

You know,

There was a thing I had read that was like,

You know,

Prayers and intentions are really the same thing,

Right?

Atheists have just a belief that is based on logic,

Right?

But prayers,

Intention,

Logic,

It's all the same thing,

Right?

You're connecting with a different power,

Right?

So your death is going to be the same thing,

Right?

It's what you choose.

And I think it's okay to accept and learn more about it.