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Meditation For The Very Advanced

by Douglas Grummons

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This is something for those who have attained a oneness with existence and you feel at a loss because, for a time, everything was moving, mystical things were happening, and now, you are asking what now where, and how should I proceed? So if you feel this oneness then please listen this can save you from any pitfalls.

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Transcript

Hello,

Welcome once again,

My name is Douglas Gromins,

Thanks for joining me.

I've made a couple tracks previous to this one on beginners meditation and a deeper meditation.

So far on this journey you've probably experienced quite a lot.

If you've raised your energy and you've been meditating for a year or two,

You may have come to a point or a blockage where everything stopped happening,

Where all of a sudden you've basically reached your goal.

And you know you've reached your goal because now you feel this oneness,

This oneness with all of existence,

This part of being part of that ocean again.

You disappeared into the ocean and the ocean disappeared into you.

The drop became the ocean and the ocean became the drop.

So now you're a one and now you're a whole.

And in reality you don't ever have to meditate again.

You've reached,

You don't have to do anything else.

You can sit back and just enjoy.

I mean if you want to have a beer,

You may or may not,

That's up to you,

But you know that you'll do it with awareness and you'll keep this new centering that you've attained around you all the time.

So the best thing I can tell you to do if you're newly enlightened is to basically drop it.

Don't think that you're special.

Don't think that the universe owes you anything or that you're God's favorite.

Don't think anything like that.

In fact the best thing you can do is to drop it all.

The old saying goes,

Renzai was one of the masters who said that what do you do once you become enlightened?

He goes chop wood and carry water.

And his students would go,

Well that's what you did before you were enlightened,

You chop wood and carry water.

And he says,

Well that's just it.

If you start thinking you're special,

If you start thinking that the world owes you something and you have a special place on this planet,

Then the ego comes in the back door.

The ego sneaks its way back in.

And even if Jesus or Buddha or Mahavira or Krishna,

If they visit you in the night or in your meditation,

Buddha says if you see him in a meditation,

That you should knock him down.

You should cut him in half and kill him and get rid of him because it really is not him.

It's just your imagination of him.

And I've seen all over the internet,

All over society where people have misconstrued what Buddha said.

And now people think that if you run into a Buddha,

If you see a Buddha on a path,

That you should kill him.

And I say if you meet a Buddha on the path,

Not while you're meditating but in life in general,

If you meet another Buddha,

Give him a hug.

Give him some love and say thank you for sharing your essence with the world.

I've heard and it's rumored that a lot of people that become enlightened kind of pass away in that moment.

They don't go beyond and keep living because it's such a peak experience.

It's just too much for the body.

It's too much for the mind to even comprehend.

It's so vast and so ginormous.

So if you meet a Buddha on the path,

Then congratulate him and thank him.

But if you're meditating,

That's when you drop it.

Because anything else that you bring into your meditation is going to be an illusion.

So now we're going to talk about going past enlightenment.

What happens next?

Okay,

What should you do?

And I like what Rinzai says,

Basically you don't change a thing,

But you're going to do those things wholly.

Each thing you'll do,

You won't have like ten minds.

When you chop wood,

You'll just be chopping wood and you won't be thinking about anything else.

If you're just sweeping the floor,

You're just sweeping the floor and you won't think of anything else.

It becomes a Zen moment,

A moment that you get to practice your awareness.

Buddhas just love keep practicing awareness because you have to stay sharp.

Because if you don't stay sharp,

The ego will try its darndest to come back through the back door and try to take over your life and make you feel like you're something special.

So that's why so many masters say that once enlightenment happens,

Then it's all over.

It's not really all over,

It's just that some things should be said and some things shouldn't be said.

So we're going to talk about the things that can be said and help guide you along this path now that you've reached a certain goal in life.

Now what next?

You have to kind of think about what has happened to you.

Basically the same thing that happens to a seed.

For a long time you nurtured your seed.

You were actually a seed,

You may not have known you were a seed,

But you were a seed for a long time.

And you nurtured your seed under the ground.

You buried it by meditating.

You buried your seed deep in the earth.

And by practicing awareness and practicing compassion,

You watered the seed,

You watered the ground.

And the miracle happened and the seed broke and opened and the plant formed underground.

And those first moments of experiencing sunlight,

When it first breaks ground and that moment of ahhhhh,

You know that happens is kind of what's happened to you or will happen to you if you're not at that point yet.

But this recording is for those that have kind of reached that point.

And really you've just begun.

Your new life has just begun.

A life of awareness,

A life of being centered,

A life of not feeling time anymore or feeling the stress of time anymore.

So really you've just begun.

And you've got to remember,

If you're at this point,

If you've made it this far,

Then your four bodies,

Your physical,

Your emotional,

Your spiritual,

And your intellectual bodies have all developed and matured or else you wouldn't have gotten this far.

So those bodies have matured.

Now there's the cosmic bodies and the nirvanic bodies to think about.

So there are meditations,

And Osho made up some really good ones,

Of how to raise your energy up into the higher chakras.

Because the first four bodies are in line with the first four chakras,

All the way up to the heart.

Now you've made it that far.

Now you're existing and living through the heart and this heart center.

And now you're ready to expand into even more.

But you don't know what yet.

Because what is there beyond enlightenment,

Right?

It's like everybody says there's nothing beyond enlightenment,

But there is.

There's so much more to understand.

There's so much more to grow.

And you're just beginning.

But like I said,

Osho has these meditations where they activate each chakra.

And there's like sound meditations that activate the chakras.

And there's other types of meditations that raise the chakras,

Raise energy in the chakras,

I should say.

So as you discover these meditations and you try them,

You can find them online.

Osho International,

I think,

Posts some of the meditations.

And you might find them on YouTube,

I'm not sure.

But any meditation that's going to help at first activate the throat chakra.

Because that's the one that's next,

After your heart's been opened and everything else.

And you've got to realize this,

Is that 51% of your energy is now up above and into the higher realms of your existence.

Whereas most people that are unenlightened,

Most 51% of their energy is down in the lower chakras and they're still being ruled by gravity.

But now the enlightened person,

The enlightened being,

Grows above gravity,

Goes above the heart chakra and starts going into deeper things.

I mean,

Buddha was asked,

Why do you still meditate?

After you're enlightened,

Why do you still meditate?

And Buddha said,

It's just something that comforts him.

And he doesn't need to anymore.

You don't need to enlighten anymore.

You've reached the other shore.

But he said,

It's just something that brought him comfort and like a shadow,

He just kept doing it.

And because he kept doing it,

He experienced life in even higher levels.

So like I said,

You don't have to meditate anymore.

That's totally up to you.

But if you do,

Then there is more work to be done and there's more to grow.

But yeah,

So from the heart to the throat chakra,

And concentrating on sound,

The throat chakra has to do with hearing and sound.

It has to do with intuition and listening to intuition.

So there's a lot of work that can be done on the throat chakra.

Mine was stuck at the throat chakra for a long time.

In fact,

I had a person take an aura photo of me.

And I didn't tell the person anything about me.

I didn't want them to know anything about my history or who I was or what I have done in life or how much I've meditated,

Nothing.

I just wanted to see what this photo looked like.

So she took this aura photo of me and it didn't look like any normal aura photo.

It was like,

You know,

The colors expanded through the whole picture.

And there was a bright orb right at my throat.

And I felt like that just meant that my energy was stuck all in my throat.

And it stayed that way for a while until I got into the Osho active meditations and was able to go beyond it.

And one thing that helped me to go beyond it was I asked myself or asked existence if I was ready to see because I wanted to see what was beyond the darkness.

It was all darkness.

When you close your eyes,

You meditate and you disappear.

And if you've meditated long enough to get to this point,

Then you should be able to disappear pretty easily in meditation.

And I'm not saying become unconscious or fall asleep.

I'm saying you disappear into existence.

And that disappearing into existence is the first levels of samadhi.

And I didn't experience samadhi until probably a year or two after the big E came.

And samadhi is this union with divine that happens at higher levels.

And anyway,

If you want your third eye open,

You just ask existence.

And if existence is ready and it thinks you're ready,

Then it can happen.

Then your third eye will open.

And I made a recording here on Insight Timer to work on the third eye chakra.

And the reason I made that recording before this one was to get you guys prepared to get you ready for it.

If you're at that point where you want to get up to that level,

If you want the third eye to be open,

Beware,

Once the third eye is open,

Then you can't close it anymore.

Once it's open,

Then you're going to experience things way beyond what your imagination could ever realize.

I mean,

We're talking about higher dimensions in life,

Dimensions that other people will think you're crazy about because you can see things that other people can't see now.

The third eye is,

Like I said,

Bringing in intuition,

But it's also being able to see these higher dimensions of samadhi.

And after the third eye chakra,

Then the crown chakra,

And that's the nirvanic body,

That's the highest level of consciousness that we can get into.

And some people think that's the 11th dimension.

And nothing can be said about the 11th dimension because you completely disappear.

There's no seeing anymore.

There's no hearing anymore.

It's just completely dissolved into existence.

And the only way you know what happens is when you come out of it,

You're just completely filled with bliss.

You're sitting there just like,

Wow.

So all this is ready for you guys.

I'm just giving you a preview maybe,

And some guidance into the higher realms of meditation and what it can bring to you and what it brings to existence.

You are a blessing to this world if you've chosen to continue with this life and share your experiences,

Share your love.

I mean,

Just being with other people.

You don't need to talk to other people.

Just being with them and smiling with them and sharing the moments with them.

Share a wave with somebody.

Share a skydive with somebody.

Go jump with some friends and have a good time.

But yeah,

Your existence is a blessing to this world and to this universe.

So anyway,

I guess we'll stop with that.

I think I've probably said enough that I may have made a few different masters a little weary and upset.

But basically,

It's kind of like giving you a shot.

You get the shot to avoid the COVID or something like that.

And this shot that I'm giving you is preparing you so that if you become enlightened,

You're not going to let ego sneak in the back door and destroy your enlightenment.

Because it can happen.

That can happen.

So we're going to give you this shot and hope that this won't happen.

That you'll be able to continue to grow.

Work on your chakras.

Work on all of them.

And don't leave out the physical or the emotional or the intellectual bodies.

Bring them in and help them to grow as well.

Because you're going to continue to grow until the day you die.

Anyway,

Okay folks,

Thanks for joining me again.

If you like this recording,

Please let me know.

If you could leave a nice remark,

That would be good.

I love to hear everybody's responses to these recordings.

Anyway,

Take care of yourselves.

Have a good one.

And Christmas is coming up,

So Merry Christmas to those of you that celebrate Christmas.

Thank you from around the world for joining me and sharing this insight.

Take care of yourselves.

I'll see you next time.

Meet your Teacher

Douglas GrummonsGalveston, TX, USA

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