So what about Kundalini?
Where does that fit in all the different kinds of enlightenment?
I don't even consider it Kundalini enlightenment.
Kundalini is the road to enlightenment,
At least to a type of enlightenment,
But I don't even put on the level of enlightenment.
But it's definitely a type of awakening.
A very,
Very,
Very,
Very profound and powerful one.
So awakening is a sort of pre-enlightenment?
I would say so,
Yeah.
It depends on who you speak to.
Some people will say,
When someone's talking about enlightenment,
They will say spiritual awakening.
Sometimes I do that.
I'm really talking about enlightenment.
It just depends on who I'm talking to.
But if you want to really break it down,
When you talk to most people,
They will look at spiritual awakening as the partial types of enlightenment under the umbrella of enlightenment.
It just depends on who you talk to.
And you talk to some spiritual teachers,
There's some there's a lot of spiritual teachers who've never had experience of full enlightenment.
They've had experiences of partial awakenings.
But partial awakenings are freaking profound.
Like that alone can,
You can have one partial awakening that will change your life forever.
You don't need anything more after that.
Unless you still have the urge to go even deeper.
But there's a lot of teachers that never reached Tiriya,
Tita.
Most teachers have probably stopped that Tiriya,
Which is the empty witness,
The divine witness that's witnessing its own divinity.
But many teachers haven't reached Tiriya,
Tita.
Who is the teacher that has reached Tiriya,
Tita?
I can't say,
I'm not going to sit here and say who has,
Because I'm not in their bodies for me to say who has and who hasn't.
What about stream entry?
Stream entry is like the beginning.
Stream entry would be,
If you experience Kensho,
Which they call in Zen.
So Kensho would be the stream entry,
The stream that leads to the ocean that you're trying to get to.
So when you have your first awakening,
That's usually stream entry.
And then from there,
From there,
When you travel the stream of consciousness,
That should take you eventually to the ocean of consciousness.
The ocean of consciousness is pure,
Full enlightenment.
But the Buddhists may argue that even consciousness itself is something,
And that's not it.
You have to go to the thing,
To the very essence of what that thing is.
They're both true.
It just depends on what angle you're tackling.
