Well,
From my standpoint,
Nothing is what it appears to be.
Another way I look at it is,
I believe in the phenomena,
But I don't believe in the interpretation.
Everyone has an interpretation of what's happening in the subtle realms.
Most of us are wrong on what that is.
But we have interpretations.
It doesn't mean the interpretations should be ignored.
They play a role in our belief systems and all that.
So,
Within our belief systems,
We have things that represent light and dark,
Negative and positive aspects of our being.
That is true,
From that standpoint.
Sorry,
They were saying being or beings?
Beings.
Beings,
Right?
So,
I don't know how many people here have had an experience where you had an experience with a positive or a negative encounter with a type of being.
I don't know if that's ever happened to you.
That's happened to me.
Paralysis?
That could be a form of that,
Sure.
That could be a form of that.
I hear that a lot.
Have you had an actual experience where you actually had to encounter a positive or negative being?
Has that ever happened to anyone here?
Not really.
Right,
But that's something that could happen.
Right,
I've experienced this.
But,
From my standpoint,
The way how I'm seeing it,
That's not what's really happening.
It's what it appears to be.
Right?
I am conquering or dealing with,
Could be anyway,
Aspects of myself that needs purging or so on.
And your brain or your ego,
I should say,
Your mind,
Will do anything to get you to not transcend.
So,
That could appear in many different symbols and so on.
It could also be the case that the positive and negative beings are real.
At least from the standpoint,
Like how I'm saying real from the standpoint of this world being real.
And you have the subtle realms that also could be real.
But from the ground of all being,
From that standpoint,
All of it is just part of the illusion.
Right?
It's just part of the illusion.
Because nothing is as it appears to be.
Because everything itself is God.
Or whatever name you choose to call it.
If you want to call it Allah.
If you want to call it Jehovah.
Abha.
Prahan.
Praprahan.
All these different terms.
Krishna.
Krishna.
All these different terms.
It's all the same thing.
And it's appearing to be all these different things because it has nothing else to do.
Because it's all there is.
Right?
So,
Because it's all there is,
It creates a reality or creates many different realities.
And all these realities,
No matter how much they appear to be,
Is not what's actually happening.
It's what it appears to be.
So,
When people talk to me about beings,
I can acknowledge them because I've experienced them myself.
I've encountered them many times.
But I see them as different aspects of myself.
So,
I'm encountering beings,
Positive and negative beings,
Who may or may not be different facets of my being.
Right?
That's one way to look at it.
But remember I said,
I believe in the phenomenon,
Not the interpretation.
So,
I don't even believe my own interpretation of that.
So,
You hear what I'm saying?
So,
It's not like I have a different view about somebody else's view versus my view.
I'm saying including my view needs to be challenged.
Right?
Because I believe in the phenomenon.
I know the phenomenon is happening.
What is it?
This is what my ego,
This is what my mind is telling me what it is.
Based on my belief systems,
Based on a whole bunch of different factors,
Why we have belief systems.
Because they're important.
It doesn't mean that's what is happening.
That's the difference.
So,
It's about you going deep inside yourself and strip away the layers until you strip away all positive,
Negative beings.
You strip away all that and all you come to at the end of the day is the ultimate self.
And the ultimate self is itself finding its way back to itself.
Within time anyway.
Because the ultimate being is even beyond time.
Right?
But within time,
Because the ultimate being is also manifesting what we call space and time.
It's doing that to find its way back to itself.
Because what the ultimate self is doing is playing the role of being the opposite of itself until it finds its way back to itself again.
Just for fun.
There's nothing else to do.
Right?
Because it's the only thing that exists.
There's nothing for this thing to do.
So,
Because it has the power to imagine and to manifest,
That's what it does.
So,
It has to forget itself to find its way back to itself.
And it does this over and over and over again for eternity.
And that's what you are in your true nature.
That's what you've always been doing,
Is playing the role of hide and go seek.
Playing the role of being the trickery,
Being the trickster.
Right?
Forgetting who I actually am and trying to find a way to find out who I am.
And in some lifetimes,
You never do find out who you are.
And in other lifetimes,
You do.
You die,
You forget.
You die,
You're back to your true self again.
Right?
And then you come back,
You do it all over again.
Because that's because it's choosing to be stuck in what they call Samsara.
Samsara is the cycle of death,
Of birth,
Death and rebirth.
Right?
But the opposite of Samsara is,
Quote unquote,
Nirvana or Moksha.
Where you free yourself from the cycle of birth,
Death and rebirth.
But when you realize that you are now Moksha,
Because you're not just free from it.
You realize the very thing you're freeing yourself from,
You are that very thing you're freeing yourself from.
Right?
Samsara and Nirvana or Moksha are exactly the same thing.
So you can get to the point where you're freeing yourself from Samsara,
The cycle of death,
Birth,
Death and rebirth.
Yet,
At the same time,
You will always be Samsara.
And you'll always be Nirvana.
Because they're just two sides of the same coin.
You can't escape it.
Because there's nothing for you to escape.
Because all there's ever been,
Was you.
Not as an individual,
Per se.
Because that's the act.
That's the play.
That's the design that it creates.
Because it has the power to do so.
But as the ultimate self.
Or the no self.
Because when the Buddhists talk about the no self.
And then the Hindus talk about the self,
The ultimate self.
They're talking about the same thing from two different sides of the same thing.
Because again,
The phenomena is true.
Our interpretations aren't.
Including my own.
So everything I'm saying is bullshit.
My interpretation is not the true interpretation.
It's not the true thing that's happening.
It's just an interpretation that I'm coming up with.
You can look at that too.
It is,
At the same time,
The truth.
Because it's coming from the same source.
It goes back to that stillness I spoke about earlier.
Being still.
Everything that is happening in the entire universe is part of the whole deal.
Whether I'm wrong or right or in between.
All of that is part of the existence itself.
And that's what it chooses to do.
Because from its standpoint,
It's fun.
Yeah,
It's fun.
From its standpoint.
Childlike nature.
It's just fun to do.
Something to exist.
It does it because it can't be harmed by it.
You can't kill it.
Death and birth.
Death,
Birth and rebirth are just illusions from its standpoint.
So it chooses to forget.
To come back to the realization that this stuff is all made up.
But when I say made up,
I'm not saying it's not true.
It's just made up.
So it dies and then it realizes,
Oh shit,
I can't die.
Oh,
Wow.
I'm back to my ultimate self again.
You know what?
I'm going to play for the next trillion years.
I'm going to do this.
And it just continues to do that.
Over and over and over again.
In and out.
It just never stops.
It's always been doing it.
It always will be doing it.
There's no way out of this.
That's just what it does.
And when it comes to the realization of what kind of,
That's what's happened.
So in the moment of the realization,
Truth is truth.
The moment I come out of it,
It's only my interpretation.
But the interpretation is still valid.
Or invalid.
It's just things for it to do.