Tantra - The Supreme Understanding Session (10)

Join us for a series of talks, focusing on the greatest position- Tantra. Commentary on the book by Shree Rajneesh written in 1975. Don't miss it! The recordings of the previous meetings are available on my Insight Timer page. Please listen and join us for this 10th and final session.

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Our alignment Let's close our phones and everything else that white bothered us and sit comfortably and Let's take a deep breath in Yeah Let's close eyes and take another deep breath in Yeah And the next breaths in we keep in we don't breathe out And slowly breathe out and when you let go and go of all your efforts Then go of everything that already happened in the past Then Let go of everything that may happen in the future And allow your attention to come back to the present moment To whatever is happening right now Around you all the information your surroundings Manufactures Come aware of the presence of your body in this space And the posture your body took upon its seat You may scan your body internally From the tip of your toes to the top of your head Making sure there is no tension hiding anywhere in your body your body is the most intimate and Loyal friend Allow it to be as it is Comfortable and relaxed Come aware of the breasts as It happens in its own natural rhythm as the air flows in and out of your body Effortlessly every breath in Fills your body with oxygen With life and Every breath out Cleanses the body And relaxes more Humor Allow your attention To shift and observe your thoughts What are you thinking of right now?

To not embrace or condemn any thoughts Just observe as they pass like clouds in the sky thoughts are powerless When you don't identify with them,

You can just observe Completely aware of every phenomena that happens around you and within you And as this endless flow of phenomena continues Allow your attention to turn away from it and face itself the origin of awareness that exists before and beyond any phenomena Where there is no movement There is only silence and with following moments Become that silence Another deep breath in and out Gently allow your attention to come back to your body That is seated here in this room out of our circle Let us unite our individual intentions into one unified intention the intention to grow to develop to evolve Let's smile.

Let's take another deep breath in Find a minute Would you feel comfortable?

You may open your eyes Welcome to this final chapter of Our journey That started 10 weeks ago more than Following the poem this beautiful Song That was saying sang by a teacher 800 years ago to his beloved disciple trying to explain what the hell he is experiencing and Using his guidance unfold the mystery of a tantric consciousness so today we are singing the last chapter of that song and And Again,

I would like to invite you guys to use this as an opportunity To contribute to that journey not just be passive listener,

But ask questions be involved while remembering that the point is not about getting the point as Tilopa says in his first sentence of the song that this is unachievable and This is not about getting the point.

There is no point.

It is not about reaching a goal It's beyond our reach And it's beyond any Explanation no words or symbol can successfully convert That state of consciousness,

So it's about the willingness to Surrender to the invitation without bothering about trying to understand it so Don't be shy to share your opinions your thoughts your questions No Good.

So we're going to Read the last chapter of this and again,

I remind you Allow it to resonate within you.

It's not about your intellectual effort Yes,

And so the song ends the supreme understanding Transcends all thing this and that The supreme action embraces great resourcefulness without attachment The supreme accomplishment is to realize immense without hope Imminence sorry immanence without hope at first a yogi feels his mind is tumbling like waterfall In midcourse like the Ganges it flows on slow and gentle Flows on slow and gentle in the end It is a great vast ocean where the light of son and mother merge in one hmm,

But the supreme understanding transcend all this and that What is this and what is that?

Everything that we conceive We give it a name.

We give it a title This makes it finite right everything that we experience we give it a name and title and we and we give and and and by doing that we We create a limit a boundary.

This is it as opposed to something else,

Right?

This is a Birch tree as opposed to an pine tree so This is this and this is that This is how our intellect Allows us to experience what we see what we what we feel what we touch what we Experience in life as life it creates a limit a boundary which Doesn't allow us to truly experience the magnificence of existence When we experience life through that lens of the intellect labeling reality for us this Already limits our ability to fully embrace life So it starts with transcending that artificial limitations that we put on life and Our ability to experience it And again,

You remember transcending something is not something that We can achieve by effort.

He already spoke about it in the previous chapters transcendence happens spontaneously when Spontaneously when you are ripe it happens you transcend like when a Fruit is ripe.

It falls off the tree Naturally so it's about Allowing that natural process to occur through you as you are Ripe enough you transcend beyond those artificial boundaries that you put on life There is no more Identity created around the eye that knows something I Know this type of tree I've seen this type of tree.

I know all about this type of tree I can tell you I can lecture in an hour full hour about the advantages of disadvantages of this tree the pros and cons Right.

I have all this background information preconceptions about it but all this mountain of knowledge Doesn't allow me to Directly experience it as it is Because you know this saying that you cannot come to the same river twice Right,

The river is changing.

You are changing the surrounding is changing But if you come with this attitude been there done that that limits Your capacity to experience it fresh Innocently naturally So you cannot be spontaneous about it anymore a Tantric consciousness is always spontaneous.

It's so fantastic to observe People in the state because you never know what to expect It's a it's a revelation every time you meet somebody like that even if you met them a thousand times every time it's it's a mystery Involved with revelation because It's always new always fresh No Imagine yourself to be so free of past impression preconceptions Imagine yourself the great teachers are there to allow us a glimpse of our full potential This is the reason to exist use that as a An invitation to observe How am I?

When free from those past impressions and preconceptions and this intellectual Dissection of life into Dogmatic molding of life of experiencing life of Good and bad Hmm So this is the supreme understanding what is the supreme understanding The supreme understanding is when the intellect reaches the ultimate understanding What is the ultimate understanding that the most advanced intellect can?

Realize about life and about itself It's a it's the same understanding.

It's the same conclusion and that is That the intellect is not here to understand the supreme understanding is Intellect realizing it is not here to understand it is Awakened to its own limitations and The limits that he is putting between the ultimate observer and the object object of observation and when that happens the intellect Relaxes and It's not interfering.

It's not standing in between me and the object of observation In that sense you see that simple people without big intellect or You know background of knowledge Simple people are much easier easygoing you know,

They are naturally happy and generous Have you seen that you see you can see that in in the East if you go travel,

You know in the East Oh Developing countries you see people smiling while playing in in the mud with you know football made out of whatever Old clothes or something and just a heart just happy You know the more Knowledge accumulated the further away we go from the natural state of being and the tantric consciousness people are The happiest that you will ever find because there is no intellects Separating between them and the reality that they are experiencing Not to say that they are done the opposite but intellect is Not interfering anymore not limiting their capacity So think about this whole knowledge This whole Guidance That tilopa is taking us on this path is about letting go of knowledge.

Letting go of What do you think you know and accomplished Letting go of that This is the supreme understanding It transcends all this and that Wow No If you have any questions,

Just let me know the supreme action Embraces great resourcefulness without attachment So this is important,

You know people have Tend to believe that on the spiritual path Action is is not Important.

No,

We become Disengaged with life and we're not participants in the realm of phenomenas and actions so and this is Not what tilopa is describing It embraces great resourcefulness Everything you do become Extremely skillful and And Effective it's not that you become,

You know,

Like wishy-wishy you know Boneless character that life just kicks anywhere everywhere because whatever who cares It's not like that at all,

But the difference between a Great doer and a tantric doer is That there is no identification There is no attachment to the action and the results of the action This is the point in this sentence When you do something you know that you are just the vessel for the action to manifest in the realm of phenomena and You are just there the vessel So it's not because of you and it's not Thanks to you and There is no identity built around the action or the result of the action the aftermath of it When I was taking the teachers trainees training course with my teacher Guruji he was teaching this lesson about how to get a A how to deal with criticism or with a Opposite of criticism like Praise how to deal with criticism and praise Like when you teach a course and then you get a feedback from your student or you have magnificent It was amazing or you are terrible teacher how to deal with that without being affected so so badly So he gave this Example he says when you go to the museum and you look at the beautiful picture and You praise the pictures.

Wow,

This is amazing piece of art So who are you actually praising?

The artist right the person who created that same when you are praised as a teacher remember That the praise is not about you It's about Teaching the flows through you you are just a vessel So as the knowledge came down through you you allow the praise to go up through you all the way to the Creator Same with Opposite of praise criticism same with criticism.

No,

You just pull it through to the higher floor Let him come deal with us Criticism and then you don't it doesn't stick on you right,

Because if you take that and say yes,

This is because of me it sticks on you and this is a burden I Tell you doesn't matter how many praises you get the more praise you accumulate the more burden you carry same with attaching to Criticism No,

Because now Maybe I'm not a good teacher.

Maybe I should I should become a construction worker.

This is not for me You know and you then when you when you are identified with this type of feedback you become a Slave to other people's opinions You create an identity around it.

And why why is it so important for you to?

Create an identity a self-image Why is it important to create a self-image?

Have you thought about that?

We create a self-image because we don't know ourselves.

So we create an image.

Ah So this is this must be how I am how I look like There's an image that I create Because I don't know the essence of the self.

I Need some kind of Something to that I can relate to so I create an image an imaginary artificial image created by either people's opinions Right if everybody thinks that I'm a great teacher,

But I'm probably a great teacher if people think that I'm terrible teacher then Currently,

I'm a terrible teacher or whatever doesn't matter your profession or I'm a terrible person for that matter I'm a terrible person for that matter.

Why because everybody keeps feedback If everybody keeps feedbacking that you're a terrible person,

It's maybe a good chance to stop and reflect but But generally speaking You know,

We are so obsessed about what other people think because we don't know we don't know for ourselves We don't know the essence of the self So we keep asking other people please tell me was I good was I bad I need to know This will answer the question.

Who am I?

I have to know please give me your honest opinion You see that with teenagers when they start creating their own Identity as an adult as an individual how important it is what other kids think,

Right?

It's like everything Young kids kill themselves because You know other kids were bullying or you know abusive.

It's it's it's that important so Remember great resourcefulness is there in your fingertips available to do amazing things But it's not about you.

You are not the doer.

This is important to realize and This is a tricky one Because we are so identified with what we do and what we don't do and we create them.

I mean Personality around it,

Right?

Who am I?

I am I I am the one who was Successful I can tell you my story.

I did this and that and that or who am I?

I'm a loser Nothing works for me.

I can tell you I did this and this and this and that This becomes an identity card for me this accumulation of actions and the results You ask an enlightened person who is?

He wouldn't know to tell an answer.

I don't know.

I mean When I remember when my teacher was asked who is he said I'm just a child who was never Able to grow up Remained childish.

I was never I never passed to that adulthood phase And it's so beautiful.

It's so accurate because you could see how fresh his presence is and Lively and innocent then Imagine yourself doing great things Without attaching yourself to it and to the results of it What version of you will manifest in this case in me,

I Don't want this to be a lecture guys So we know we know now what is the supreme understanding and what is the supreme action?

The supreme accomplishment Is to realize immense immanence without hope That's so beautiful supreme immanence without hope what is immanence me It's the easiness of things right the essence of things to realize it For what it is with no Judgment with no agenda with no preconception with no personal point of view Realized out without hope This is very interesting that he's choosing to use this words.

Don't you think?

Without hope I'm supposed to be hopeless Sounds a bit depressing no But think about it Why do we hope?

Generally speaking and this is not a theoretical question Attached to an outcome say again because we're attached to an outcome.

We are attached to an outcome So we do a Hoping that B would be the result and if C is the result then there is disappointment,

Right?

So we do that we do a with an agenda.

This is a there is a preconception of what should happen and This is according to Buddha which lived about 2,

000 years before Tilopa.

This is a Trap that leads to suffering to misery Right Buddha was Buddha said how to Be engaged in doing something without creating additional suffering Buddha was holding the flag of suffering this was his Agenda,

I will teach you how to stop suffering.

So we say how to stop suffering with Relevance to doing he said whatever you do choose to do do it 100% As if it was the last opportunity you get to do that whatever it is washing dishes or Mount climbing the Himalayas and Free yourself from the attachment to a specific result Free yourself from that demand.

This should happen as a result of my doing So if you are able to do it 100% all of you Surrender to the decision to do that and Surrender to the outcome of whatever is Happening because of that Then no misery no suffering will be added.

There is no new karma To deal with Why do we hope why do you hope?

The best thing Present moment Yeah The present moment is not good enough We don't settle with what is we believe a better version of Realities waiting to manifest when in the future when other things will happen other circumstances you know,

I Will be happy when I graduate I'll be happy when I get a job.

I'll be happy when I get married I'll be happy when I have children.

I will be happy when they get a job.

I will be happy some other time right and which never happens or if it does happen,

It's Temporary and easy to destroy It's not sustainable We know that and we keep falling into that trap again and again and again and again hope is there because We are unable to recognize Fulfillment in the present moment So we keep chasing this Phantom Right keep chasing the Phantom so the supreme Accomplishments according to Tilopa.

You cannot accomplish anything more than realizing The imminence of things without hoping for anything better to happen You know also on the spiritual path people are Committed to the journey on the spiritual path hoping that one day someday something else will happen a better version of reality will manifest or a better version of themselves when we Present itself,

Right Because as is it's not good enough I'm as I'm unworthy of that type of experience of that type of consciousness I'm too Imperfect do you realize that imperfection is an illusion of the intellect Have you ever seen something that is imperfect Have you ever experienced something that is imperfect?

The only reason for you believing it's not perfect is that you have a contradicting idea about it intellect Contradicting idea.

No,

No,

This is nice,

But should be better a better version of this is definitely waiting and And Until it manifests it won't be perfect.

How do you know?

My intellect tells me I have an idea.

I have a concept about it Do you see that?

Life is perfect already is always been Not just perfect in a divine way It cannot be any perfect tail But we don't realize that because we are too pre-engaged with our ideas and concepts about what should happen Washington realize imminence without hope the definition of imminence on Google is The state of being present as a natural and permanent part of something Okay,

I called it the innocence of things So He's not talking about being hopeless or hopeful It's not about being hopeless or hopeful It's about being without hope at all.

There is no relationship between you and hope You don't embrace hopefulness and you don't reject hopelessness There is just no hope there.

There is no hope whatsoever clouding your vision Sounds on weird it does Yeah,

But it's the border to hope sounds so positive and The word of hope to less sounds so negative So saying without hope Being that in this context hope embraces Hopeful and hopeless Yeah Imagine your life without hope You don't wait for something else to happen Present you're just present with the easiness of things.

Yes Imminence is waiting for you To become available to experience Perfection is waiting Yeah so now is describing the spiritual journey from beginning to end In a few sentences,

Which is so beautiful It starts where most people never reach on their path because most people on the spiritual path are too engaged with Chasing knowledge and experiences.

I have to talk about this a minute before we go into his words people on the spiritual path are Conditioning their participation on Their expectations to gain either knowledge or experience and it better be fresh and new and Exciting More and more and more and more Like I had my beloved disciple lives in Israel She once told me look you're one.

I've been to all your silence retreat already Like I've been to like 10 retreats.

There is there a point for me to come to the 11th one?

I've been there.

I've done that many times So I looked at her and I told her it's time for you to realize It's time for you to realize it's not about your experience if you come here trying to chase the ultimate experience you are bound to Drop it's imminent You will not go and look for other spiritual paths with other teachers or different techniques that might excite you more But you are missing the point The point is not about finding the most thrilling experience the most challenging knowledge and Get a hold of that Adding more Credits to your identity cards,

You know Yes,

I'm very spiritual listen I can tell you I didn't this and this and this and this I don't I've done that I experienced those amazing experiences.

Ah People are so attached to their spiritual experiences You know,

I can tell you once I took those drugs or those mushrooms and I and God spoke to me It was amazing.

It was fantastic My life changed completely and I'm not the same person anymore.

I'm now much more evolved Can you hear what's happening there?

Replacing a mundane identity with a spiritual identity,

But identity is there Dominant as long as you are attached and creating an identity around the experiences Around the knowledge that you are able to accumulate You're trapped.

It's a burden You will never be fresh and available in a tantric way Just more and more and more and more Mm-hmm So most of the people even on the spiritual path,

Even people that are very dedicated to their path Don't even come to where Tilopa is starting his journey They don't come to that point They're still stuck in their own experiences and benefits My life is much more easy now,

I don't suffer anymore.

I'm in bliss I can teach other people how to do that.

I'm so great me me So he starts by saying at first a yogi feels his mind is tumbling like a waterfall Everything that I Conceived and I was able to relate to through the context of intellect and labeling Experiences Determine if it's beneficial or destructive good or bad Right everything I all the set of beliefs and ideas and preconceptions everything just tumbles down this is Devastating Like Tilopa doesn't leave any stone on another stone He's just destroying Everything that we built so the How do you say?

Deliberately delicately How do you call it like Precisely With a lot of care and Dedication and he's just Destroying that and there is no Construction anymore on which we can lean this is terrifying and it's Inevitable if you want to go all the way like Tilopa is describing You will come to a point where everything that you hold on dearly to to make sense of life to create some sense of stability of security it will come tumbling down and When you shout out Who am I?

There will be nothing echoing back to you so that you can relate to and say our cake.

This is why I It will be avoid Who am I there is nothing echoing back nothing I'm not good.

I'm not bad.

I'm not spiritual.

I'm not mundane.

I'm not a man.

I'm not a Spiritual being living in a human body Nothing of that is relevant anymore Who I am there is only silence echoing back and this is terrifying in Christianity it is called the The dark night of the soul,

Right?

And you have to cross that void Most of the people don't even reach the first show not to mention causing it to the other side But if you're here listen to this invitation Have the courage have the sun kalpa that focus of Attention and Intention that focus of intention.

This is what I want.

This is what I want.

I don't care how scary it is I don't care if this means I'm gonna die and You will die in many sense of the world of the word.

You will die and Everything you hold dear to That can identify you To the world and to yourself is going to be lost destroyed Everything comes tumbling down.

There's something to look forward to So it starts like that everything is Come crashing down and there was a huge mayhem and terrifying time to To cross and then me in midcourse Like the Ganges it flows on slow and gentle suddenly everything all this mayhem just calms down and When you know when the dust is clear what you are left with is just very natural very gentle flow of events Where you are completely?

Unintimidated by life anymore You know think about flowing on on your raft on your favorite River with a can of beer in one hand and Sunglasses in the other hand and just watching life goes by when you're completely at ease nothing is Threatening you anymore and will ever threat you think about that in a place where you are awakened to the fact that life cannot and In that phase there is still a separate Observer that is enjoying the flow as a separate entity Unintimidated No personality,

No agenda.

No preconceptions.

No fear.

No suffering.

No Karma,

Nothing But still separate identity that experienced that flow Until the final Evolutionary step Suggests itself in the end.

It is a great vast ocean Where the lights of son and mother merge in one What can I say about the sentence?

So the river flows Closer and closer until there is no river anymore.

There is only ocean.

There is only oneness There is no me floating in the river watching the changing events natural and Calm There is only ocean.

There is just ocean.

There is no there is only stillness.

There is no changing events There is just that holistic oneness that I melt into the supreme orgasm with life Well two melts into one miss This is where the journey ends This is where the relationship ends this is when there is no disciple and no teacher anymore This is where there's only one consciousness there is no illusion of separateness anymore and If there is no disciple and no teacher There is no song anymore So the song ends What do you say to me When the music's over turn off the lights and go to bed the last person to turn off the lights Many comments from the audience a little earlier Barbara said So that Sentence the supreme accomplishment is to realize the eminence without cope.

This seems like an explanation of dissolved into the not Yes 100% and Then she said without hope because I am not content with what already is.

Yeah And then Chad said have you heard the idea save and scrap until you retire then you can enjoy life Yeah,

Then you spend all your money trying to gain your health but and then Talking about All the things that Make us feel like we are tumbling like a waterfall Once we get to the The Ganges blowing on slow and gentle then it's like a baby before the conditioning sets in so it lets it Yeah,

It's so beautiful with Like we come to this world.

So innocent so clean and unstained and as we grow we become solid Solid solid.

What is it?

What does it mean?

Things get honest.

Yeah,

We get Imprinted by life,

You know more and more slaps and kicks and and Impressions and Around schisms pretty.

Yeah,

And around that an identity is created,

Right?

But The calling is to remember who you were before that happened Who you were as you came to this planet?

Even even before you had a body What was that?

What what was there?

Before you had a name and an identity I mean It's not science fiction.

You were that You are that behind All those exterior Layers that you've put on yourself It and you use as an identity like a baby So innocent You are that What else?

This is the final chapter of this song so I would like to invite you guys online or in the physical realm to share your Experience of this workshop or program course or whatever you want to call it and you know if there's any specific thing that you would like to take with you and You know work on or remember or is it any outcome of this journey that you cherish or you would like to share and or maybe things that were difficult for you and you don't agree with and you still have a Problem with anything you want to share now is the time Let me start by asking.

Is there anyone here?

That were Present throughout the 10 sessions and didn't miss anyone or at least listen to that recording and Had all the 10 sessions Experienced 31 32 33 I Guess not.

Okay.

So anyways back to my question me.

I did.

Ah,

You did right Carly way So Carly all you get the first say There's nothing to say No Silence.

Mm-hmm.

So I miss is good Okay,

Really grateful that you chose to to share this with us in this way I Feel like every time that it was present.

There was like this interesting dance that it's part of my experience like what are we?

You know the beginning with just the worst said well,

What does this really mean?

And in the end I feel so Grateful to be reminded just be present just now.

That's it There's nothing else and just be here without all the attachment of those stories to all of them without all of that it It makes you really like joyous and happy and Yeah So I feeling jubilant to the quality come in with all this stuff from the day and the sex.

Oh great.

Thank others and said so I really appreciate that and the reminder and the invitation to To return to the ocean.

Mm-hmm.

I really really appreciate it Thank you for being here And you Well,

I started strong.

I showed up for the first first three section um and Yeah,

This all kind of things kind of Happened since the Third week of July and I haven't been able to make it I do appreciate the space that's created and allow me to come in and Go through the that particular piece of the song and It does it does remind me of things that along the way