Finding Divinity In Our Corporate World

How do we reconcile the spiritual world of unconditional love with the world that requires us to fight and compete against each other for power and success? Latest join to discuss these questions and dive deep into the knowledge of the Self that lies behind them.

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So,

Welcome again,

Everyone,

To this unique opportunity we give ourselves once a week.

Stop the rush,

Take a deep breath,

And walk the path together,

Supporting each other on our path as we are propelled forward by that tension that hides between the question and the answer,

Reminding ourselves that it's not about getting the point,

It's not about finding the right answer,

But remaining curious and longing through the question,

That every answer's ultimate purpose is to bring us closer to silence.

And today's subject that we were invited to use as an excuse to be here was how to bridge the gap between unconditional love and the corporate world that demands us to be competitive on the expense of the other.

How can we do that?

So we have Karl here to represent the voice of the sincere seeker.

So AJ is breaking the ice.

How does consciousness present itself in business?

Consciousness presents itself in the present moment,

As the present moment.

It could be a restful hike in the mountains.

It could be a very stressed meeting in the office.

Consciousness is behind the manifestation of everything that is currently happening.

It's like asking me,

How is this cloud that I'm currently looking at,

How is the consciousness represented in the cloud?

The cloud is there because the skies are there.

Without the skies,

There can be no clouds.

Our consciousness is there,

Allowing reality to manifest.

The context of the manifestation is not that important.

You see what I'm saying?

You will have to come to a point when you cease to split reality into a dual existence.

This versus that.

Spirituality versus materialism.

This duality doesn't really exist.

If I have to operate in the material world,

I cannot be spiritual.

The values are contradicting.

I tell you,

There is no spiritual value.

There are material values,

For sure,

Because in the material world,

We need to operate within the context of the game that we are currently playing.

The game can be different in various occasions,

Various cultures.

When we go to a business trip in Japan,

We need to know the behavioral codes,

What is accepted,

What is unaccepted.

We don't want to offend anybody just because we are ignorant.

It's good that we come prepared and we play by the rules of the game over there.

This has got to do with our choices of what to do and what to refrain from doing.

But consciousness is there beyond these questions of right doing and wrong doing.

Rumi has a beautiful saying,

Out there,

Beyond ideas about right doing and wrong doing,

There is a field.

I will meet you there.

You see what I'm saying?

Spirituality has no rules,

No values that it protects.

We cannot be free if there is a value out there that is more important than the present moment as it happens right now,

As it manifests.

You see what I'm saying?

So that artificial duality,

Sooner or later you come to a point where you realize there is no conflict between the two.

They don't exist in a different realm,

In the same realm.

What you choose to do or refrain from doing belongs to the realm of doing.

But what you are has everything to do with your being and nothing to do with your doing.

It's a different realm altogether.

So next time you experience a conflict,

Remind yourself,

That's just an illusion.

That's the observer confusing the clouds with the sky.

AJ says,

Business is defined by lack.

Lack of profits,

Market share,

Return on investment,

Which then pushes those in business to feel the same lack.

Is that not counter to your guidance of not engaging with life from lack?

Business could be propelled by a sense of lack,

Yes.

But not necessarily.

Can there be business,

Can there be involvement in business,

But without a sense of lack?

The fact that most players in this field are propelled by lack doesn't mean that you have to be dancing to the same music.

You can be very successful in what you do.

You can excel in what you do,

Devoid of lack.

Because there is another force replacing lack that you choose to harness to motivate you to excel.

And that force is called,

How does it go,

Love.

You see,

You know the answer already.

Yeah.

Can you be successful in business without a sense of lack?

I need,

I want,

What will I gain out of that?

Definitely.

As we speak,

People are changing the world,

Driven by love,

Not by lack.

Love doesn't know lack.

Lack is the opposite of lack.

Love is an expression of abundance.

Abundance cannot know lack.

You know,

If you realize that you are the well,

You are the fresh water,

You cannot be thirsty anymore.

You see what I'm saying?

You are the well.

And every time you went out there looking,

Begging for some water,

That was because of ignorance,

Lack of self-knowledge.

Now that you realize,

I am the wealth,

I am that,

Now you can go out to the world and share that,

Change the world,

For sure.

But you're not propelled by lack anymore.

And the alternative to lack is not stagnation or,

You know,

Apathy.

People think if I'm not hungry,

Why would I,

You know,

Do anything?

What's the motivation there?

Why search for food if I'm not hungry?

No,

No,

That's an illusion.

Because we are so identified with that type of motivation based on lack,

Then we even don't recognize that there can be another type.

As powerful,

Even more powerful.

Fearless,

Free of fear of gain and loss.

You go and change the world.

And if you feel,

If you encounter people that are driven by lack,

By that sense of I need to win,

I need to,

On the expense of the other,

You know,

I need to prove that I'm better.

When will I be happy?

When I have more?

I have more and I can create more wealth so people would appreciate me more,

Etc.

,

Etc.

If you see these people,

Just open your heart,

Have compassion.

Know that they are still driven by ignorance,

Lack of self-knowledge,

That's it.

No judgment.

Don't try to persuade them otherwise.

Don't try to convince them that you are right and they are wrong and you can see and they are blind.

That won't work.

You just shine your light.

Open your heart.

Let unconditional love flow through you and the way it manifests will take care of itself.

Don't worry about that.

And if they recognize that,

If they are sensitive enough to recognize that,

That's fantastic.

And if they are not and they are too preoccupied with their own shit,

That's okay too.

Just have compassion.

Am I allowed to say shit on Insight Time?

What else?

AJ says,

While beautiful,

Romantic and wise,

The reality of existence in a materialistic society that teaches and urges for consumption and accumulation seem counter to love,

Seems to be the ultimate conflict.

No.

There is no conflict.

Don't convince yourself that life exists in conflict.

Just expand your vision to see the totality of it.

Yes,

There is always a dance between masculine and feminine energy.

There is always a dance between the energy that expands and the energy that contracts.

And that balance allows life to exist.

So there is one pool to grow,

To develop,

To expand,

To explore,

To find new and exciting realms of life.

And there is that voice that calls everything back home to the singular point where everything started from.

These two eternal forces exist and dance with each other.

It's not a problem.

It's not a conflict.

Or if you can say,

If you want to refer to it as a conflict,

Then this is a conflict that is weaved into the essence of life itself.

It's designed by the creator to work together like that,

To dance together.

Imagine if there was always only that expansion force,

Life could not exist on the physical realm.

We would be dispersed into nothingness long ago.

And if there was only the feminine that tries to bring everything back together to the singular point where everything emerged from,

Then life could not exist on the physical realm.

It would shrink into nothingness long ago.

So there is this balance.

If you want to call it a conflict,

That's okay.

But it's a balance that allows life to exist and develop and allow consciousness to experience and grow through that.

It's not a problem.

It's the way it is designed that's so beautiful,

That's so mysterious.

Don't make it a problem that you need to solve,

Not for yourself and not for the sake of humanity.

It's not a problem.

Just relax in it.

Enjoy it.

Enjoy that dance.

Sometimes masculinity is required,

Sometimes femininity is required.

Find that balance within you and then you recognize there is balance all around you.

And if there isn't,

You can be contributing your own balance to rebalance,

To reharmonize whatever is around you.

It could be your contribution.

What?

Angie said,

It's okay,

Some teachers on Insight Timer drop the F word regularly.

Question is,

Do they get their recordings uploaded regularly?

The big brother is listening.

What else?

AJ says,

I'm going to tell the next board meeting to relax and surrender.

Might need a new gig after that.

That's my point.

Don't.

Don't try to be a preacher.

As I said,

It's not about what you preach.

It's about what you are.

Don't try to convince.

You be that.

And those who are sensitive enough will stand in line,

Recognizing that spark in your eyes,

Asking where you get it.

I want some.

Teach me how to do it.

And those who are preoccupied with other things,

It's okay.

You know,

In the Song of Songs,

King David is so beautifully writing,

Don't,

In Hebrew it says,

Al ta'iru v'al te'oreru et ha'ahava ad she techepatz.

In English it's,

Don't wake up love until it is willing.

Don't try to rush love.

If somebody is not ready,

Be patient,

Be compassionate.

If you try to pick up a fruit from the tree before it's ripe,

There is no use for that fruit,

Right?

When it's ripe,

It will fall by itself.

You don't even have to lift up your hand.

It's naturally happening.

So don't try to rush it.

You be unconditional love.

You be an expression of that.

And the rest will take care of itself.

Don't worry.

What else?

I guess it feels challenging to be this balanced,

Enlightened expression of oneself,

Trying to play this game that seems in conflict.

And I suppose sometimes it feels like you're not being loving or expressing unconditional love when you are needing to exhibit some of those,

What we might call masculine characteristics to play the game that seem harsh and competitive and directive and hurting other people and,

You know,

Climbing over top of others and all this conflict and competition that's required to play that game.

It feels like splitting yourself into two different places.

It's an illusion.

Don't.

Don't split yourself.

You be an expression of your own truth,

Which is unconditional love.

And sometimes unconditional love manifests in the masculine and sometimes it manifests in the feminine.

Sometimes unconditional love puts boundaries.

Sometimes people need boundaries and you put them for them because you love them unconditionally.

You know,

Sometimes a parent has to say to his child,

That's it.

That's the line.

And you cannot cross it.

Why?

Because children sometimes need a boundary,

Right?

They need our responsibility as an adult,

As the responsible adult is to give that boundary.

And we don't do that because it's our duty or our responsibility.

We do it because we love them,

Right?

Sometimes you suggest a boundary,

Yes?

This is the line and it's not okay if you cross it.

But see that you put that line unconditionally.

There is no personal interest there for you.

If you cross that line,

That will somehow offend me.

The line is there for you.

You see what I'm saying?

You are just the messenger here.

The messenger of unconditional love.

It's not that I'm threatened somehow by your behavior and I need you to stop.

Unconditional love cannot be threatened,

Cannot be afraid.

Love and fear are opposite values.

They cannot live together.

Either you are afraid or you are loving.

So sometimes a boundary is required and you are there lovingly giving it.

And you say,

No,

No,

This is it,

That's the line.

But what motivates you,

What drives you to do something is not fear,

Is not a sense of lack,

But the opposite,

It's love.

You need love,

You need a line and I'm lovingly giving it to you.

And how would you know if that line that you give,

That border that you place is not out of egoic lack,

Your own lack,

Your own fear.

You make sure that you are not contracted when doing it.

You are loose.

You are relaxed.

You are not intimidated.

Heidi joined saying,

Happy healthy Easter to everyone.

I'm a social and environmental advocate sending my love to everyone from Southern Maine in Wabanaki Territory in the northeast of America.

And she says,

Live,

Love,

And let be.

Michelle says,

I just had to quit my teaching job due to health,

But struggle with thoughts of letting my students down and not fulfilling my obligations.

Hope to overcome,

Question mark.

So when do we feel remorse or regret?

Oh,

She says,

How,

Not hope,

Where did hope come in,

Oh,

How to overcome.

When do we feel remorse or regret?

When does that happen?

It happens when we decide to do something,

But we are not fully committed to that.

We don't surrender into it.

We keep one leg here and one leg there,

Right?

We are in doubt whether this is what we should have done,

Or maybe it should have been something else.

You know,

Doubt is that poison that doesn't allow us to fully commit.

It keeps us tied to the fence,

You know?

Doubt is that force that keeps us on the fence.

Trying to make up our mind,

Should we go left or should we go right?

Where should we go?

Where would be more beneficial or less offensive to other people?

Where will I gain more?

Where will I lose less?

All that drama of making a decision.

And what happens while we're in doubt on the fence?

Life happens,

Right?

It happens in both sides of the fence.

But we are not totally engaged because we didn't make up our mind yet.

So we are not taking a part in life as it happens.

My suggestion is burn the doubt.

Make a decision and commit to it 100%.

Don't be a victim of conflicting thoughts trying to pull you back to the fence.

Wait,

Wait,

Wait.

Maybe you didn't think about this.

Doesn't matter.

I tell you,

It doesn't matter.

That's the truth.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter if you chose to go left or right.

It seems so important.

It seems so dramatic.

But that's an artificial drama that doesn't really exist.

It doesn't matter if your life goes on the left or on the right.

They say all the rivers flow to the ocean.

It doesn't matter if it flows from the left or from the right.

Eventually they will reunite.

The ocean doesn't care if you chose to go from the left or from the right.

You belong to the ocean.

You are coming back to the ocean.

That's it.

All drama about should I do this or that,

This is just a fallacy.

It's not real.

You have to expand beyond that illusion of how important my decision is,

How it influences my life,

How it influences the life of the other.

What is much more important is that you choose,

Get off the fence,

Choose and allow yourself to be completely committed to your choice,

Surrender to the consequences of your choices.

This is a successful life,

A life that is filled with remorse and regret and doubt and fear,

Is not fully lived.

But if you are able to commit to your choice and surrender to the consequences of your choice,

Whatever,

That's much more important,

I tell you.

Because moment to moment you are available to experience life as it happens,

Free of conflicting ideas about it.

If you wash your dishes and you believe somebody else should have washed the dishes,

Not you,

That's it,

You're in the drama,

You're lost.

But if you wash the dishes fully committed,

100% present,

You will be surprised to find God in the soap bubbles of the dishes that you currently wash.

You see what I'm saying?

Be present.

Heidi says,

AJ,

I so resonate with your question and perspectives.

Best of wishes for your board meeting.

Lynn says,

Thank you,

Needed to hear that.

AJ says,

I had to lay off over 200 people last year.

The choice was not unconditional love towards them.

However,

It was not a reflection of my values or spiritual beliefs,

But it was the financial needs of the business.

Greed,

Is that not conflict?

Selling one's soul to the devil based on greed,

Opposite of love?

Selling one's soul to the devil?

That's a bit harsh.

Again,

See if you can zoom out from the specific events of your story and see the big context.

We win some,

We lose everything.

We are here to gracefully let go of everything we believe we hold,

We own.

So we win,

We lose,

We win,

We lose,

We gain,

We lose,

And then we lose,

We lose,

We lose,

We lose,

We lose,

Until we are completely lost.

Even your body will be lost,

It's just a matter of time.

Sometimes we play the good guy,

Sometimes we play the bad guy.

Sometimes we play the rich,

Sometimes we play the poor.

Don't get too hung up on any specific role that life calls you to play in a given situation.

Sometimes I need you to carry a child,

Sometimes I need you to kill a child.

Don't get too identified with any role life calls you to play.

Remember,

It's just a play.

And soon lights will turn off,

Everybody will run to the backstage,

Change costumes,

Change roles,

Come back to the front of the stage again and play a different play,

Different game,

Different costumes.

It's all a part of the big play.

Don't be too hung up to any specific role,

Too identified with it.

Just make sure that your choices are not led by fear,

By a sense of lack,

By ignorance.

Make sure that your choices,

While on the stage playing the game,

Are led by knowledge,

By love,

By a sense of surrender to reality as it happens,

As it manifests.

That's it.

If you fire 200 people and believe that this was a mistake,

You should not fire those 200 people,

Guaranteed you're stuck in the drama.

This shouldn't have happened,

Something else should have happened.

Then you're in the gap,

You see that?

But if you fire those 200 people,

Realizing it's the right thing to do,

And unfortunately you are the one that has to do it,

Then you submit to that.

Gracefully accept that position,

Knowing that next round you could be the one that is being fired.

And that next round could be next year,

Or next lifetime,

Or in 10 lifetimes,

It doesn't matter.

What is important is that you commit to your decision and surrender to the consequences of those.

This is important.

It's important not just for your private life,

It's important for the universal consciousness.

Zoom out,

The big picture.

You are just an aspect of that consciousness that is there to experience life as it happens.

The question is,

Are you allowing it to experience itself in matter,

As matter?

Or are you interfering with that,

With your doubts and fears and.

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Rehabition?

Inhibition.

Inhibition.

Inhibition.

God is waiting for you to surrender.

God is waiting for you to surrender.

The question is,

Will you do it today?

Or do you prefer to wait for next week,

Or next lifetime?

For God it doesn't matter.

God exists beyond the realms of time and space.

It matters for you.

When will you surrender?

Angie said,

I love when a single tiny bubble unbeknowingly floats up when I'm washing up.

It's a magical moment.

I love bubbles.

Good,

Good.

I love bubbles too.

AJ is asking,

Please define unconditional love.

He says earlier,

The choice was not unconditional love towards them.

So,

Is.

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.

How do you know?

How do you know?

I mean,

Because you fire them,

You don't love them?

Why?

I mean,

Don't put that tag.

That's a limited perspective.

They were not supposed to be fired?

How do you know?

They would be better off having that job?

They were not supposed to be fired?

You see,

If you have that conflict within you,

That's it.

You're trapped.

If the choice is to fire 200 people,

Then no.

This is the choice.

This is what I'm committed to.

And I'm surrendering myself to the consequence of that.

100%.

There is no doubt anymore.

That's it.

And if the choice is to keep them there and whatever,

To do whatever is necessary to keep the business alive with them,

Then you commit to that.

Surrender to the consequence of that.

As long as there is no conflict within you,

Reality can continue to manifest harmoniously.

But if you do one thing and believe the other thing should have been done,

You are in the gap.

You create disturbances.

That's called karma.

Let go of those.

These are just conflicting ideas that stand between you and unconditional love.

Okay?

Surrender to what?

Surrender to the present moment as it manifests.

I cannot say it in simpler words.

Surrender to the present moment.

What else?

Okay.

Heidi wrote a lot.

Just a second.

Mary Lynn said you shouldn't be divided.

Don't understand the question.

You did talk about being divided earlier.

I don't remember.

Okay.

Heidi says,

Michelle,

I so feel for you.

Oh,

This is to Michelle particularly.

Should I read it?

I don't know.

Is it relevant for everyone?

Okay.

I'm going to read it.

Okay.

I'm going to read it.

Okay.

Deep sigh.

Thank you.

I agree with everything.

Just instead of deep sigh,

Take a deep breath in and let go.

Don't sigh about it.

Life is too short.

You enjoy it now.

Enjoy the moment.

Enjoy the opportunity life gave you to experience the present moment.

Embrace it.

Rejoice on it.

That moment will never come again.

It doesn't matter if it's convenient or comfortable or not.

It doesn't matter.

Embrace it.

Sometimes life seems to be overwhelmingly complicated and painful,

But it's never too much.

Don't persuade yourself that whatever you're experiencing is too much and beyond your capacity.

It's never the case.

It's never,

Never,

Never the case.

You are always bigger than the experience life has to offer.

So take a deep breath and remind yourself that again and again.

And we are here together.

You're not alone.

Create that community for yourself of people that can support you when you feel down,

When you need a shoulder to lay your head on.

We are here for you.

You're not alone.

Lynn says,

Surrender to the present moment so I can stay open with an open heart.

Yes.

Michelle says,

I often feel like there are two separate me's.

The one that has to work,

Produce,

Do,

Do,

Do,

Get the responsibilities completed that life requires.

And the other me that is calm,

Quiet,

At peace with everything.

The two me's are in direct conflict with each other.

How to merge the two?

It's not a problem.

It's not a problem.

You are not broken and there is nothing to fix.

Sometimes masculinity plays.

Sometimes femininity plays through you.

It's okay.

Allow them.

Sometimes you are in the doing.

Sometimes you are in the being.

It's okay.

It's all a part of the great game that we are all playing.

There is nothing for you to solve.

Just let go of the idea that this is a problem.

That you are broken.

That you are split in half.

You are not.

You are whole.

You are perfect as you are right now.

Believe that.

Know that.

And you will realize that beyond self-inflicted duality you exist without a conflict.

You are peace.

You are joy.

You are love.

That's it.

That's what you are.

And the way it manifests is not that important.

Sometimes you are busy.

Sometimes you are restful.

Sometimes you remember.

Sometimes you forget.

It's not a problem.

Yes.

Michelle says great reminder Yaron.

Sometimes life does feel like it is too much.

But it is not.

I've got to remind myself.

Yes.

Heidi says thank you so much Yaron.

And who is with you?

Introducing Carly.

I'm your voice today.

Angie says Heidi probably understands more than most of us.

She has suffered huge health problems and massive surgeries.

Wishing you continued good health and recovery Heidi.

Michelle says sending you much love and care Heidi.

So you can feel it being sent your way.

Good.

Heidi,

Angie thank you so much for recognizing all of this.

I tried to send you a friend request but that failed.

Thanks again for the validation.

Beautiful community.

Yes,

Yes,

Yes.

Good,

Good,

Good.

We are not alone.

We are always a part of something bigger.

Always a part of.

We are never alone.

Don't confuse yourself to believe that you are all alone and you have to carry all that weight by yourself.

It's never the case.

There is always in arms reach somebody to help you with that burden.

And we are here.

So don't be a stranger.

You can always reach out and we will be there for you 24-7.

So I would like to invite you this week to take that recommendation and practice it.

Practice it.

What is the recommendation?

Whatever you choose to do,

Commit to it 100% and surrender to the consequences of your choice.

See how it feels.

See how you glide through life when you are fully committed beyond any doubt.

And if there are doubtful thoughts trying to persuade you otherwise you don't give it any attention.

Never mind whatever thoughts I have about it.

I am here dedicated,

Committed and fully surrendered to the consequences.

Let's meet next week and you can share your experience.

What do you say?

A life of commitment.

Yes or no?

Good,

Good,

Good.

So thank you everyone for your time,

Your attention,

Your beautiful questions,

Your donations.

Thank you for sharing your path with us even if for a little while.

Let's meet together next week and grow some more.

And bring your friends.

Let's make it a happening.

Heidi wants to know more about Carly.

I am here to experience life with you all.

I am so happy to be here representing your voice on this platform.

She is a natural born.

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.

Killer.

Killer.

See you next week.

Bye bye.

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