
Can Spirituality And Science Coexist?
by Yaron Etzion
Join us for this discussion to dive deep into the exciting borderline between spirituality and science. Are these seemingly contradicting realms coexist? Do they really contradict or maybe complement each other, and if so how? And how does all of this reflect on us and the way we perceive reality? Bring your questions, your doubts, your conflicts and let us go together.
Transcript
So Hello everyone Welcome to this unique opportunity we give ourselves to stop the rush and take a deep breath and remind ourselves what is most important to us in life and who we really are as we are propelled on this journey while asking the big questions so this is your opportunity to take part of that help propel this movement forward with your beautiful questions today the excuse for us to meet is in that investigation about the borderline between science and spirituality now I would like to emphasize that this is not a lecture I don't have any materials to I've prepared in advance that I would like to share with you this is a conversation led by your question your curiosity your longing for the truth your longing for the truth so don't be shy share those allow yourself to take an active part in this I'm going to just start with a few words to get you warmed up and I'm going to leave the stage for you your questions so can science and spirituality coexist this is a question I've been pondering about for I think since I was in a junior high I remember I had a physics teacher who was a religious you know he went he was walking around with his yarmulke and I was always curious about how does he bridge that how does it how can he live in those two worlds you know teaching physics the basics of physics and still believe in God and the world was created in seven days and all that how can you bridge that I what one time after class I asked actually I asked him I asked him this question how can you bridge this gap so his answer was profound and stayed with me since he said you know physics helps me have a better understanding on how this world works and my religion helps me with the question why this world works so they refer to two completely different questions and that's why I'm able to live in those two worlds but I would like to take that suggestion even one step further because we have this tendency to separate these two realms spirituality and science as if they cannot coexist on in the same realm you know we refer to science as something very masculine by nature right very precise empiric we need to prove before we accept any suggestion or consider that to be the truth only until some other theory is proven to be right there is a very methodological way of coming to conclusion it's very right brain you know right brains it's left brain left brain whatever you know one one side of the brain and then there is spirituality was very feminine by nature right it's all embracing all inclusive you can't really prove anything anyway it's based on your intuition it's very hectic and they don't seem to truly live together it's almost representing the the conflict between the two the two genders right the masculine and feminine and embodied in science and spirituality how can they live together so for me that was always a fantastic area of investigation I think probably the most exciting thing to learn about can they coexist if so how how do they coexist so what I'm suggesting here today is that not only they coexist they only we shed a light on the same thing from two different angles it's like two beams of focused attention that are shedding a light on the same thing but from different angles and the more I mean what you can say about spirituality is that it developed way earlier than science and it's been shedding the light on the same thing for thousands of years but in order to connect to that light you need to be a believer and you need to be a man of faith a man of faith of course back in the days it wasn't a problem because everyone was connected to that faith in one way or another it defined who you are right the what you believe the god you were worshipping or whatever but it doesn't matter on which spiritual path you were walking eventually all paths led to the same realization in the modern days people are not as connected to the spiritual realm as they used to be in the past and more and more human consciousness turned into the left side of the brain where science became the new religion and you believe what is told by the scientific world to be true right nobody ever saw an atom but we believe they are there and we believe that matter exists because of the structure of atoms why because we believe that scientists know what they're talking about so this is the new religion this is the new religion but still what's fascinating to see is that the more advanced science is the more it describes what was already described in the scriptures thousands of years ago it's not that they come to different conclusions about reality conclusions that contradict each other no actually the opposite is true the more science is advancing we get empiric results to spiritual theories and ideas and concepts that until recently didn't have any scientific proof whatsoever I can tell you I can give you an example and then I'm going to leave the stage for you one example that is obvious is the concept of oneness and this is a concept that has been there since I would dare to say the Jewish faith about 3,
000 years ago 3,
500 years ago because it was the first faith that came with this concept of one god until then people worship different type of god there is a god for rain there is a god for the sea there is a god for the sky there is this goddess that helps you with your financial and so forth and every time there is a problem you go and you pray for that specific god but the Jewish faith was the first one to come with this concept of one god oneness there is only one consciousness so for 3,
500 years the Jewish faith was the first one to come with this concept of one god so for 3,
500 years that idea stood there but in order to be to be able to relate to it you need to be a man of faith science recently is describing the same exact existential fact about reality oneness is not just a philosophical theological idea that somebody invented and religious people believe in it but it's actually the description of our physical reality the more you dive into physics quantum physics the deeper you go the more that realization becomes clear you know that you know the butterfly effect for example that has been described in quantum physics you know that you heard about it know that it's enough for a butterfly to wave his gentle wings and in one part of the world a series of chain reactions can cause a hurricane on the other side of the world and it's a metaphor for how everything is interconnected being influenced and influencing the entirety of creation not just on this planet but universally so it's all one united living organism and it doesn't matter which level you cut it it could be physics it could be chemistry it could be a quantum physics it could be the physics of the atom and it's science would eventually lead you to that realization that it's all one continuous flow of one living organism and the only difference between me and you is the concentration of atoms it's a bit more concentrated here less concentrated in the gap between us and it's less concentrated in the gap between us and it's more concentrated there that's it and the idea that there is some me that is separated from that and whatever happening out there is not truly a part of me is not just nonsense on a theological philosophical level but it's nonsense on the physical level of reality what do you think about that next time you think you tell yourself life is so cool to me can you remind yourself that this is just an illusion I'm going to leave you with this question and open the stage for your questions Cynthia proposed that the word you were looking for was methodical instead of methodologic I don't even know if that's a word methodology no yeah methodology yeah so methodological yeah no but you may or may not be a word she says love this sharing of truth and ancient wisdom butterfly effect is a good one Adam and Eve only thought they were separated no way could we be separated from this source yeah I mean there is the innate knowing in us that somehow knows that to be true right we are not truly separated from we are not truly separated from life but nevertheless we walk around on our daily basis daily chores as if we are separated we keep forgetting that that's why I think more for men than for women that realization is extremely important that oneness is not just an idea a theoretical concept you know a philosophical concept oneness is not just a theological concept that you need to believe in you know don't believe somehow women has that natural connection more than men to that truth that intuition whatever intuition whatever you want to call it man needs proof so I challenge you I encourage you men go and investigate and learn what science has to say about for example oneness and you realize that this is now more than ever scientifically proven that oneness is the nature of reality or physical reality it's just a soup of atoms changing forms changing energy manifestation same energy you know the first law of newton I think it was the first law of newton saying that energy is one and complete there is no second energy it's only one energy and the only thing that happens in this world is the fact that it's changing forms the sum of the energy in the universe is complete and finite that's it energy cannot be lost or gained in the total scheme of things there's only one energy playing here and it can change for heat to motion to heat to motion learn about the three laws of thermodynamics it everything is talking about the exact same thing but the the innovation here is the fact that you don't have to be a man of faith to realize that to be true today you can investigate and educate yourself about it but of course if it's easier for you to just connect to that knowing then you've created a shortcut but if you choose to take the long path that's okay too just don't convince yourself that you are separated and whatever is happening out there doesn't really concern you or relate to you or affect you or whatever you choose to do doesn't affect the rest of the world or your inner world of emotions and sensations has nothing to do with the has nothing to do with the surroundings of the reality that you mean you are responsible it is you who is generating that reality and affected by it we have a live question here from a live audience my beloved boy would time also be also related to spirituality he's asking could time be also a concept of this science the science that is related to spirituality and and the last words were in sets and time can be relative i would say the only time spirituality relates to is the present moment the idea of time as a continuous flow events is artificial artificial spirituality refers to time as an illusion of continuous events time doesn't exist in that sense there is only the present moment the only real thing that is that you can relate to is the present the truth can be found in the present moment what happened in the past is a memory what will happen in the future is an idea consciousness can only be present in the present moment now the fact you're referring to the fact that the faster we go on the physical realm the slower time ticks right that's why the idea is that if you send somebody to mars and the speed of light when he comes back it's been three months in his life on on the planet or whatever way faster time flows the slower the movement is but that's that's just a physical true physical truth because think about a beam of light okay think about a beam of light that shoots from the sun hits the earth and then reflected back into space okay now it's like you took a photo of whatever is that beam of light encounter and now that photo is projected into space now imagine you were able to build a spaceship that was able to chase that specific beam of light into space okay at the speed of light so imagine that the closer you come to that beam of light the slower the events on that beam of light seems to you right until the point where it's just still photo because there is no difference between the speed you are traveling and the light is traveling you see so the closer you come to that beam of light the slower the movement is see what i'm saying so that's the theory but i don't want to get too much into the physics of it what's relevant here is to realize that the only time that you can actually be in and relate to if you want to live a truthful life is the present moment unfortunately when you investigate when you reflect on that you when you reflect on that you see that this is almost never where you actually spend your time in attention right because the thoughts that you have this tendency to run away from the present moment they're too busy re-digesting the past or running into the future trying to plan the future or being afraid of it so the calling is always come back come back take a deep breath come back to the present moment i am waiting for you here in the present moment the proof for me that i feel like comes from effeminate intuition is this longing and desire to belong like there's something about whether it's feeling lonely or not like you're you're not part of the group or you know you can sort of pinpoint a similar type of feeling at throughout different parts of your life you know when you're when you're a newborn or a baby you're surviving or you're you know you're parts of your life you know when you're when you're a newborn or a baby your survival depends on you know being being loved and cared for by your caregiver and then you know as you get into school and especially as you go through puberty that sense of belonging or being part of the group and not being excluded you know and then as you become an adult maybe you're joining some sort of church or religion or you know something a secular group or a you know book club or a you know a men's gathering or something like this right and so throughout your life you you have this this drive and pull to to belong and and then on top of that there's this this feeling of of we often we put so much attention and and and our drive to be you know particularly a relationship and you know you know a domesticated relationship so much focus of our social ability and our you know media and our influences that way or are around that a particular romantic relationships but also friendships and you know those deep connections and there's this like really deep longing for for that throughout our lives and then you know into the senior years as you start to see people around you your friends and family you know start dying from old age and or illnesses or whatever and you know you're sort of left alone again and you you're back to reconnecting with whatever that spirituality is but beyond our lived experience on earth you know you can find that at different points throughout the lifetime.
Yeah we are born connected think about a baby boy baby girl they are the center of the universe right they don't feel disconnected at all this sensation of be of i'm disconnected sprouts as soon as there is a need unfulfilled need and then you realize because you are think about it nine months you are growing and being nurtured and as you are physically connected to abundance right there is always whatever you need you don't even know the concept of need it's been given on the fly you don't even know what it means to to need and then you are born into this world and suddenly things start going south suddenly you're hungry and it takes time for the mother to realize that and you feel hungry what the hell is that i didn't sign up for that and so forth right more i didn't sign up for that and so forth right more and more and more and as we grow that sense of need and want grows and with that grows ego that illusion of separateness okay if there is me that needs let's protect that me make sure that life doesn't take what i have already and that i can get from life what i need and that grows grows more and more this is called the ego and we identify with that aspect of ourselves to the point where we completely forget that this is not the actual physical reality that we actually a part of and the whole interaction with life is through that sense of lack and want and me me separated me that's how we go about in life why do we want why do we yearn for social social interactions because we don't feel connected we don't feel that connection so we try to build some kind of a social structure that would enable us to feel a part of something right that would secure some kind of brotherhood of people like-minded people that i can relate to that can help me in my time of need or whatever i try to build some kind of financial stability because my resources are limited and i can see abundance out there but i'm not connected to it it's not mine so i have to put my name on some of it to make sure i can use it whatever i need right it's so on and so on that's how that's the context of our adult life so spirituality traditionally and lately science as well is teaching us that this is based on a an illusion separateness is not reality is not the nature of the physical world that we live in nothing is separated neither are is you there are you nothing is separated it's all one continuum flow of energy and matter and consciousness let me tell you a story years ago scientists scientists they studied a group of monkeys in africa and as they lived in in the jungle together with that group they came to notice that the the monkeys learned a new treat probably by looking at men there is some kind of sweet fruit that you need to wash from otherwise it has thorns on the fruit but you need to wash it in the river and then you can eat it so they saw that the monkey is starting to imitate men and they started and they taught themselves how to eat that fruit so they gained a new capacity the amazing thing is that another group of scientists that studied another group of monkeys same species but on a different continent in south america came to realize that this group of monkeys also started behaving similarly with fruits with fruits now being able to eat them as if consciousness monkey consciousness did that leap at the same time oh you know another example is the telephone you know i would ask you who invented the telephone everybody would say a ground bell right but you know that the telephone was actually invented by an italian guy three months before grumbel wrote the patent on it i don't remember the name but another guy came with the same idea he would just didn't think about hiding a patent about it in the united states so he wasn't known but the fact that consciousness comes to that and people are connected to that evolutionary state and are able to manifest new invention innovation because consciousness is ready one consciousness what we are doing here now is one consciousness evolving by asking questions and answering them one consciousness is evolving and you are a part of that don't elude yourself to believe that you are disconnected and this is not nothing to do with you the separated you it doesn't exist don't believe me go and study choose any science that you can relate to go deep into that science and you see oneness is not an idea one energy one matter one consciousness uh thomas is asking i know we are all one interconnected etc how does science prove this maybe he missed the beginning then he's also asking how can we prove something when our only truth is what we see as truth yeah so what i was saying is that actually science is describing oneness to be the physical reality of our world not just the theological philosophical concept and i encourage you to go and learn you know learn what chemistry has to say about one source of matter what atomic physics has to say about one continuous flow of energy you know what newton has to say about it one what quantum physics has to say about it astronomy what astronomy has to say about it everything that you see when you look up into the sky was born at the same instant and everything manifested from nothing to one in one particular moment in time in a particular in a particular point in the sky that we can actually pinpoint today everything you see all the matter all the energy come from the same source can you be different can you be separated from that because i don't know you don't feel connected you see that cannot be you are made of the same stardust you are propelled by the same energy you are governed by the same consciousness there is only oneness only oneness that you are just an aspect of just an aspect of don't believe me find the science and go and learn dive into it deep into it and you would see this is the nature of our physical world what else barbara was saying barbara says so let's apply it to evolution science is attempting to answer the how and religion attempts to answer the why it holds water to me so what are you suggesting the evolution the nature of evolution for me the answer is very clear but that's just my answer to myself i don't claim that to be any truer than any story you tell yourself for me the world and the universe sprouted in an instant 13.
7 billion years ago in what we call today the big bang for consciousness to be able to experience itself in matter as matter because as an etheric being it's been there before time beyond the realm of time and space that didn't exist until that point in that point space time matter and energy was born why so consciousness or god or whatever you want to call it can experience itself and grow through the evolution of matter and energy matter and energy and consciousness so that's what it's been doing since it's inevitable whatever is happening is a part of the evolution of consciousness and how does that relate to your perception of life when you resist when you reject you don't participate in that evolution you actually hold it back but when you embrace when you love when you participate when you rejoice in the opportunity you have to experience life you actually promote that evolution you are available to feel the present moment with meaning instead of suffering because of it do you see what i'm saying ask yourself what kind of influence do you want to give influence do you want to give to the eternal evolution of consciousness that happening that's happening in every moment what kind of influence do you want to bring what else is it or i said antonio meucci yeah invented oh okay that's the italian guy telephone in 1871 yeah and isadora also said darwin believed in god yeah actually yeah he was very religious actually darwin he was really religious some of the most prominent scientists and physicists are are quite religious and i think their religion is strengthened through their scientific discoveries too which is pretty profound yeah it's quite amazing so they can coexist definitely and then tomas said i i try when you were talking about yeah sometimes those people's huge brain understandings is like gobbledygook i'm always learning good good one love one oneness i believe this don't just believe it know it to be true take it for one step further don't just believe it spirituality doesn't require your belief as opposed to religion know it to be true that's the truth that's it there is no other truth and if you don't if you don't know it investigate and then thomas is asking what was there before the big bang and i'm asked these questions i would say it's for me to know and for you to find out for you to find out what else cynthia says yes emily empathy compassion if there is one word that i love more than any other world in the vocabulary is that yes yes with many essences yes emily empathy compassion two energies love and evil inside joke what inside what is inside joke it's all inside one uh tomas says do you believe the heart math institute stuff i'm open to learning yet many people say this is charlatanism i try to investigate i don't know that can't tell anything yeah hard math institute is interesting stuff i don't know peggy says hi iran shabbat shalom religion is part of the spirituality there are lots of paths yes and there is a live question here i would say it's a yes i'll repeat the question how come like quantum mechanics talks about uh this experiment of a cat i don't know if you know if you heard about it where you put a cat in the box and you the only way to know if the cat is alive or dead is to open the box so the observer basically makes that decision particle can exist in two states it could be either a particle separated particle or a wave of possibilities and the only way that it chooses one or the other is when the observer is and observing the system right because when before there is an observer it could be either or both or none of them could be one of four states of existence either not non-existent it could be extended particle it could be a wave or get both aspects but the observer once it's looking it's collapsing into one possible possibility right so it basically it's a metaphor of saying that your your own observation generates the reality the physical reality that you observe which is fascinating when you think about it it's mind-blowing because we are so tuned to believe that reality is a finite event and now it's just a question of how do i relate to whatever is already happening and it's inevitable right but quantum physics says no no no it's not a finite event all the possibilities are there you as the observer actually actually manifest one of those possibilities to be your own reality think about it it's crazy do i really create i am the creator of the reality that i see and i can give it to you in in a very digestible way your consciousness is like a a light beam okay it's like a flashlight beam your consciousness what you are aware of what you are concentrated about that whatever your focus is on that your consciousness what you are aware of what you are concentrated about that whatever you're focused on that grows okay so if you're focused on your difficulties your challenges if you're focused on things that are wrong and should be better things that are broken and should be fixed those things grow in your life and your life is a continuous effort to fix and change and avoid and manipulate but if you're focused on the beauty if you're focused on the grace if you're focused on the the magical aspect of life the holistic aspect of life that what you focused on grows and suddenly the world is a playground for you to discover and it's not a threat anymore you see think about what type of beam your consciousness is sending out there are you focused on the lack or are you focused on the abundance you create that reality for yourself well that's i've seen there have been many questions i've seen there have been many questions tomas as i believe i know energy heals reggie says yes amelie energy is adora says how can we use the one consciousness to overcome loneliness in the here and now i can sort of understand it in theory but not in practice good question you know if you feel alone unrecognized unloved unloved just remind yourself even if it's artificial remind yourself that you are loved by everyone you see that the person in front of you now loves you unconditionally know that to be true to be true and you'll see they will have no other alternative but to love you it's a trick if you think if you doubt their love if you think maybe i'm he doesn't like me or i'm not worthy of his love then he won't but if you know it in your heart that they love you unconditionally they will reality is the manifest manifestation of your own projection not the other way around if you feel alone know know deep inside know that you are a part of everything you cannot be disconnected physically it's not possible know that remind yourself that go out to the nature and feel that you are an extension of what you see and what you see is an extension of you know that remind yourself that and you will be a part of it you will feel about know that consciousness is one and yours is not disconnected for it you don't have any personal royalties on consciousness it's not possible so even if it might sound a bit artificial in the beginning just do that practice that remind yourself again and again i am one oneness is the nature of reality and you will know that to be true everyone a bunch of people knew you were talking about schrodinger's path and then cynthia asked does the observer create yeah um tomas said i'm opening the box and amelie yes open your heart and mind open the box opening the energy field amelie yes open your heart and mind open the box opening the energy field is it uh it's like the heisenberg principle the act of observation alters what is being observed yeah look this is not think think about heisenberg he is a mathematician a physicist a physicist tells you that the object of your observation is directly influenced by your observation think about the physical reality that that illuminates and now think what kind of observation are you willing to put on the table would it be judgmental would it be full of fear judgment would it be full of conditioning preconceptions you see how limited it is how limited reality can manifest out of this type of observation but if you keep yourself wide keep yourself limited unlimited keep yourself unconditional imagine the reality that can manifest out of that observation what is the quantity of the observation you're putting on the table it's your responsibility it's not a finite reality that you need to learn how to live with you create that you generated it you create that you generated it of course you don't do it alone universal consciousness does it but you are a part of it margaret is asking what about the danger of spiritual bypassing it's a danger for sure yeah too often people take spiritual ideas and use them for their own egoistic agenda definitely something you need to be aware of spirituality is not there for your ego actually the opposite is true so make sure you don't harvest harvest some benefit for your own sake by listening to or learning some spiritual knowledge so much focus of our social ability and our you know media and our influences that way are around that a particular romantic relationships but also friendships and you know those deep connections and there's this like really deep longing for for that throughout our lives and then you know into the senior years as you start to see people around you your friends and family you know start dying from old age and or illnesses or whatever and and you know you're sort of left alone again and you you're back to reconnecting with whatever that spirituality is but beyond our lived experience on earth you know you can find that at different points throughout the lifetime yeah we are born connected think about it a baby boy baby girl they are the center of the universe right they don't feel disconnected at all this sensation of being of i'm disconnected sprouts as soon as there is a need unfulfilled need as soon as there is a need unfulfilled need and then you realize because you are think about it you nine months you are growing and being nurtured and as you are physically connected to abundance right there is always whatever you need you don't even know the concept of need it's been given on the fly you don't even know what it means to to need and then you're born into this world and suddenly things start going south suddenly you're hungry and it takes time for the mother to realize that and you feel hungry what the hell is that i didn't sign up for that and so forth right more and more and more and as we grow that sense of need and want grows and with that grows ego that illusion of separateness okay if there is me that needs let's protect that me make sure that life doesn't take what i have already and that i can get from life what i need and that grows grows more and more this is called the ego and we identify with that aspect of ourselves to the point where you completely forget that this is not the actual physical reality that we actually a part of and the whole interaction with life is through that sense of lack and want and me me separated me from myself that's how we go about in life why do we want why do we yearn for social social interactions because we don't feel connected we don't feel that connection so we try to build some kind of a social structure that would enable us to feel a part of something right that would secure some kind of brotherhood of of of people like-minded people that i can relate to that can help me in my time of need or whatever i try to build some kind of financial stability because my resources are limited and i can see abundance out there but i'm not connected to it it's not mine so i have to put my name on some of it to make sure i can use it whatever i need right it's so on and so on that's how that's the context of our adult life so spirituality traditionally and lately science as well it's teaching us that this is based on a an illusion separateness is not reality is not the nature of the physical world that we live in nothing is separated neither are is you there are you nothing is separated it's all one continuum flow of energy and matter and consciousness let me tell you a story years ago scientists years ago scientists studied a group of monkeys in africa and as they lived in in the jungle together with that group they came to notice that the the monkeys learned a new treat probably by looking at men there is some kind of sweet fruit that you need to wash from otherwise it has thorns on the fruit but you need to wash it in the river and then you can eat it so they saw that the monkey is starting to imitate men and they started and they taught themselves how to eat that fruit so they gained a new capacity the amazing thing is that another group of scientists that studied another group of monkeys same species but on a different continent in south america came to realize that this group of monkeys also started behaving similarly with fruits now being able to eat them as if consciousness monkey consciousness did that leap at the same time oh you know another example is the telephone you know i would ask you who invented the telephone invented the telephone everybody would say graham bell right but you know that the telephone was actually invented by an italian guy three months before graham bell wrote the patent on it i don't remember the name but another guy came with the same idea he would just didn't think about hiding a patent about it in the united states so he wasn't no but the fact that consciousness comes to that and people are connected to that evolutionary state and are able to manifest new invention innovation because consciousness is ready one consciousness what we are doing here now is one consciousness evolving by asking questions and answering them one consciousness is evolving and you are a part of that don't elude yourself to believe that you are disconnected and this is not nothing to do with you the separated you it doesn't exist don't believe me go and study choose any science that you can relate to go deep into that science and you see oneness is not an idea one energy one matter one consciousness uh thomas is asking i know we are all one interconnected etc how does science prove this maybe he missed the beginning then he's also asking how can we prove something when our only truth is what we see as truth yeah so what i was saying is that actually science is describing oneness to be the physical reality of our world not just the theological philosophical concept and i encourage you to go and learn you know learn what chemistry has to say about one source of matter what atomic physics has to say about one continuous flow of physics has to say about one continuous flow of energy you know what newton has to say about it one what quantum physics has to say about it astronomy what astronomy has to say about it everything that you see when you look up into the sky was born at the same instant and everything manifested from nothing to one in one particular moment in time in a particular point in the sky that we can actually pinpoint today everything you see all the matter all the energy come from all the energy come from the same source can you be different can you be separated from that because i don't know you don't feel connected you see that cannot be you are made of the same star dust you are propelled by the same energy you are governed by the same consciousness there is only oneness only oneness that you are just an aspect of don't believe me find the science and go and learn dive into it deep into it and you would see this is the nature of our physical world what else barbara was saying barbara says so let's apply it to evolution science is attempting to answer the how and religion attempts to answer the why it holds water to me so what are you suggesting the evolution the nature of evolution for me the answer is very clear but that's just my answer to myself i don't claim that to be any truer than any story you tell yourself for me the world then the universe sprouted in an instant 13.
7 billion years ago in what we call today the big bang for consciousness to be able to experience itself in matter as matter because as an etheric being it's been there before time beyond the realm of time and space that didn't exist until that point in that point space time matter and energy was born why so consciousness or god or whatever you want to call it can experience itself and grow through the evolution of matter and energy and consciousness so that's what it's been doing since it's inevitable whatever is happening is a part and how does that relate to your perception of life when you resist when you reject you don't participate in that evolution you actually hold it back but when you embrace when you love when you love you don't participate in that evolution hold it back but when you embrace when you love when you participate when you rejoice in the opportunity you have to experience life you actually promote that evolution you are available to feel the present moment with meaning instead of suffering because of it do you see what i'm saying ask yourself what kind of influence do you want to give to the eternal evolution of consciousness that happening that's happening in every moment what kind of influence do you want to bring what else Isadora said Antonio Meucci invented oh okay that's the italian guy telephone in 1871 and Isadora also said darwin believed in god yeah actually yeah he was very religious actually darwin he was really religious some of the most prominent scientists and physicists are are quite religious and i think their religion is strengthened through their scientific discoveries too which is pretty profound yeah it's quite amazing so they can coexist definitely and then Tomas said i i try when you were talking about yeah sometimes those people's huge brain understandings is like gobbledygook i'm always learning good good one love one oneness i believe this don't just believe it know it to be true take it for one step further don't just believe it spirituality doesn't require your belief as opposed to religion know it to be true that's the truth that's it there is no other truth and if you don't if you don't know it investigate and then Tomas is asking what was there before the big bang when and i'm asked these questions i would say it's for me to know and for you to find out what else synthia says yes emily empathy compassion if there is one word that i love more than any other world in the vocabulary is that yes yes with many essences emily empathy compassion two energies love and evil inside just like you what inside what is inside job it's all inside one tomas says do you believe the heart math institute stuff i'm open to learning yet many people say this is charlatanism i try to investigate i'm open to learning i'm open to learning many people say this is charlatanism i try to investigate i don't know that can't tell anything yeah hard math institute is interesting stuff i don't know peggy says hi iran shabbat shalom religion is part of the spirituality there are lots of paths and there is a live question here i would say it's yes i'll repeat the question how come quantum mechanics talks about this experiment of a cat i don't know if you know if you heard about it where you put a cat in the box and you the only way to know if the cat is alive or dead is to open the box so the observer basically makes that decision particle can exist in two states it could be either a particle separated particle or a wave of possibilities and the only way that it chooses one or the other is is when the observer is observing the system right because when before there is an observer it could be either or both or none of them could be one of four states of existence either not non-existent it could be particle it could be a wave or it can have both aspects but the observer once it's looking it's collapsing into one possible possibility right so it basically it's a metaphor of saying that your your own observation generates the reality the physical reality that you observe which is fascinating when you think about it it's mind-blowing because we are so tuned to believe that reality is a finite event and now it's just a question of how do i relate to whatever is already happening and it's inevitable right but quantum physics says no no no it's not a finite event all the possibilities are there you as the observer actually manifest one of those possibilities possibilities to be your own reality think about it it's crazy do i really create i am the creator of the reality that i see spirituality says 100 percent and i can give it to you in in a very digestible way your consciousness is like a a light beam okay it's like a flashlight beam your consciousness what you are aware of what you are concentrated about that whatever you're focused on that grows okay so if you're focused on your difficulties your challenges if you're focused on things that are wrong and should be better things that are broken and should be fixed those things grow in your life and your life is a continuous effort to fix and change and avoid and manipulate but if you focused on the beauty if you focused on the grace if you're focused on if you're focused on the the magical aspect of life the holistic aspect of that what you focused on grows and suddenly the world is a playground for you to discover and it's not a threat anymore do you see think about what what type of beam your consciousness is sending out there are you focused on the lack or are you focused on the abundance you create that reality for yourself what else i've seen there have been many questions Tomas as I believe I know energy heals Maggie says yes Amelie energy Isadora says how can we use the one consciousness to overcome loneliness in the here and now I can sort of understand it in theory but not in practice good question good question you know if you feel alone unrecognized unloved unloved just remind yourself even if it's artificial remind yourself that you are loved by everyone you see that the person in front of you now loves you unconditionally know that to be true and you'll see they will have no other alternative but to love you it's a trick if you think if you doubt their love if you think maybe I'm it doesn't like me or I'm not worthy of his love then he won't but if you know it in your heart in your heart that they love you unconditionally they will reality is the manifest manifestation of your own projection not the other way around if you feel alone know know deep inside know that you are a part of everything you cannot be disconnected physically it's not possible know that remind yourself that go out to the nature and feel that you are an extension of what you see and what you see is an extension of you know that remind yourself that and you will be a part of it you will feel a part know that consciousness is one and yours is not disconnected for it you don't have any personal loyalties on consciousness it's not possible so even if it might sound a bit artificial in the beginning just do that practice that do that practice that remind yourself again and again I am one oneness is the nature of reality and you will know that to be true everyone a bunch of people knew you were talking about Schrodinger's path yeah and then Cynthia asked does the observer create yeah Thomas said I'm opening the box and Amelie yes open your heart and mind open the box opening the energy field is it or uh it's like the Heisenberg principle the act of observation alters what is being observed yeah look this is not think think about Heisenberg he is a mathematician a physicist a physicist tells you that the object of your observation is directly influenced by your observation think about the physical reality that that illuminates and now think what kind of observation are you willing to put on the table would it be judgmental would it be full of fear judgment would it be full of conditioning preconceptions you see how limited it is you see how limited it is how limited reality can manifest out of this type of observation but if you keep yourself wide keep yourself limited unlimited keep yourself unconditional imagine the reality that can manifest out of that observation what is the quantity of the observation you're putting on the table it's your responsibility it's not a finite reality that you need to learn how to live with you create that you generated it of course you don't do it alone universal consciousness does it but you are a part of it Margaret is asking what about the danger of spiritual bypassing it's a danger for sure yeah too often people take spiritual ideas and use them for their own egoistic agenda definitely something you need to be aware of spirituality is not there for your ego actually the opposite is true so make sure you don't harvest some benefit for your own sake by listening to or learning some spiritual knowledge
