Empath & Ancient Wisdom: Transition To 5D, A New Earth Pt 1

The energy is intense now and getting more so. Chris Largent is a classical philosophy teacher, a transformative astrologer and a memory keeper of ancient wisdom (among his many roles). He talks here to a group of empaths about the two world views, the Indigenous Elders’ perspective of the Great Transformation, and the shift into 5D. Highly relevant for all the changes happening now.

Transcript

I'm Trevor Lewis and this is part one of a talk that I invited Chris Largent to give in April 2023 to one of my empath groups.

Enjoy.

Let me start off by formally introducing Chris.

I introduced him as a practical philosophy teacher,

A transformative astrologer,

A memory keeper of ancient wisdom,

And that's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the number of different hats he's worn.

So what I invited Chris to cover tonight was basically a quick overview of the two world visions,

The two world views,

As we shift from one in 3D to the other in 5D,

Going over the indigenous elders' perspective of the Great Transition and the Great Purification,

And largely from an astrology point of view,

But from any point of view that you care to cover in terms of what the heck's happening to the world right now as we shift gears in the first week of moving into 5D.

So Chris,

The floor is all yours.

Thank you.

Actually,

In this case,

It's a screen.

The floor used to be things that we got.

Now we get screens.

Okay.

Just as well,

I suppose.

So it's not very clear where to start with this,

But I think maybe one of the easiest things is that there's an old history of the planet that the average teenager in an indigenous culture would have known before the age of colonization,

When if you think about it,

The wiping out of the indigenous cultures was a very odd thing.

And we always talk about it.

I don't know about you,

When I move into a neighborhood,

My first instinct isn't to wipe out my neighbors.

And so the question always was,

Well,

Why did they get rid of them?

And one of the reasons is there's this very,

Very old history.

And the problem with the history is,

As far as the empires were concerned,

Is it has to do with the fact that the earth is part of this massive,

Galactically important,

Great transformation.

And again,

The average six-year-old would have known this in the 12,

13,

1400s in indigenous culture and would right now be bored and dozing off as I'm talking.

The idea is,

And of course,

If you want to take over and be a king or an emperor or a dictator or something like that,

You don't want people to know that there's a big transformation going on and they're all part of it.

Because then they don't need you to be a dictator and tell them what to do.

So essentially,

The history is roughly that around the.

.

.

And I normally would do this just for the earth,

But I can say the galaxies now because Gaia TV is dumping all kinds of disclosure stuff about all the secret space programs and so on that I used to know about as a consultant,

But we never talked about because we were afraid of scaring the public.

But since it's on Gaia TV,

I think,

Yeah,

What the heck?

So the idea is that there's a big galactically important experiment happening on the earth because without identifying a group in the galaxy,

There's this very controlling,

Violent mentality.

And philosophically,

It's based on the belief in separateness taken to an extreme.

And the belief in separateness taken to an extreme is the need to consume without thinking about anything else.

And when you have that belief,

People can handle all kinds of ways.

They can feel interconnected.

And in most cases,

Especially for tens of thousands of years on this planet,

People didn't have that sense.

The native indigenous cultures didn't have the idea that they were separate.

They had an idea that interconnected whole and the environment provided everything they needed.

They were integrated into the environment environment.

So they didn't conceive of themselves as consumer.

So the history is that that controlling mentality was making a mess of the of certain parts of the galaxy,

Which we know is a popular version of it.

This is Star Wars.

And even the indigenous elders I talked to thought that was a joke,

But a joke that happens to be slightly true without Harrison Ford,

By the way.

He's a late comer.

But this mentality was drawn to the earth for a variety of reasons.

But the earth had agreed,

Along with the beings who are attracted here to transform this mentality,

Not fight it,

Not try to destroy it.

Nothing is more hopeless than the good versus evil scenario.

And that actually plays into a belief in separateness.

But rather to say we're going to transform this from from this very kind of controlling dominator separate.

I need to consume you and don't care anything about you mentality into a more holistic partnership,

Interconnected mentality.

And the idea was it's going to take a long time.

Now,

Indigenous cultures and don't really think much in time,

They think in narratives.

So it doesn't matter how long it takes.

It's what's the story that's being told.

So if you ask the average,

Say,

Astronomer,

Tell me about the solar system.

The first thing that if especially if she's got a degree in philosophy along with it,

She'll say,

Well,

We don't know why the planets actually group and get together.

The mass equations aren't right.

And I think most people that study astronomy know that.

So the astronomers start to suspect that they're conscious and they like to be together.

And that's,

I think,

The bleeding obvious.

But as astronomers would tell you,

Something happened roughly 900000 years ago that a lot of planets that were in our solar system moved out of town.

Something alarming really occurred.

And the native people would say,

That's easy.

The controlling mentality showed up here at its worst.

And what had happened was the humans here were drawn from all over the place that the native elders would say,

You're very seldom going to find a native earth person there from all kinds of parts of the galaxy.

They were drawn here to try to help with what the elders called the great transformation.

And those people were signing up for a very long job because the five second version of the history was everybody's going to get together and plan this thing.

And however long the planning took,

The implementation was going to take that long as well.

The planning took and I'm using,

I'm going to use Hindu dating because of course,

My Hindu friends will say we're indigenous peoples,

We're not a religion.

The British court called Hinduism a religion sometime in the 1800s.

And most of my Hindu friends resented that.

They,

Using the Hindu dating,

They would say that the actual transformation planning started 864000 years ago,

Which in galactic terms is the blink of an eye.

And the planning took 432,

000 years.

So the actual transformation started 432,

000 years ago.

Well,

If you have a very nice,

Gorgeous,

What indigenous peoples call the library planet,

Like the earth,

You're going to have these gorgeous experiences until this crowd shows up and then you don't.

If you have this sense of,

Okay,

We have to tolerate all kinds of misery while we're slowly transforming this mentality,

It's pretty brutal and violent at the beginning.

So about 432,

000 years ago,

People agreed to settle more heavily into their physical bodies,

What we call 3d.

And that heaviness allows the memory to be wiped out of anything when you're,

When you're born with the exception of a few people dumb enough to sign up to be memory key.

But that time period,

It didn't mean that everybody would settle heavily into their bodies.

And there are old teachings that some humans were still half in and half out as late as Atlantis before the sinking.

So that's going to be 20 to 50,

000 years ago,

Give or take.

But by the time and end of Atlantis,

Everybody's pretty much heavily into their bodies,

Not counting the higher dimensional beings like the great teachers in India.

And I don't mean hide out in any negative way.

So the idea was when you come to the end of it,

There will be something they call the great purification,

Where essentially,

It'll be clear that first of all,

This is very successful,

Because the controlling mentality,

We very,

Very obvious,

Instead of something that these are the natural rulers,

Or they're the gods,

Or they're the whatever's people say,

These are just controlling crazy people.

And it would also be obvious that by the end of that time period,

By the what they call the great purification 1975 to 2025,

Great teachers from the past would be very attracted to the planet.

And they'd be sure to be here.

And that number is in the is a very large thousands and thousands.

And sure enough,

1975 to 2025,

The elders that I talked to said,

Yeah,

There are a lot of the great teachers back,

They don't realize who they are many times.

And I always mentioned that I'm reminded of Daniel Brinkley,

The guy who had the near death experiences.

And he always said,

After I had my near death experiences,

I always perceived humans as spiritual heroes.

And in the great transformation history,

The elders would say,

Yes,

That's exactly the that's exactly what these people are,

Because they're not only doing extraordinary things,

They don't even know why they're doing it.

And they're having to put up with all kinds of crazy stuff.

So in the fun conversation that I had,

When I was in college with them,

Most,

They said,

Well,

The 1975 to 2025,

I was in college in the 60s.

And,

And no,

It was none of the fun stuff that you see in television shows,

It's just school.

But the conversation they had,

They said,

The 1975 to 2025 thing is coming up.

And it's going to be interesting,

Because there'll be these big events that will get people's attention,

But especially nobody's going to like 2020.

They didn't know what it was that nobody was going to like it.

2021 is a recovery.

And 2022 is,

Okay,

They start to realize that there's this separation that the native elders refer to as the two earths prophecy.

And there are a variety of versions of that.

But a lot of native peoples just take that for granted,

That and they talk about it in different ways,

But the two earths way the Hopi elders,

And they would say,

You'll start to see this separation.

And this,

This,

The symbols and the signs of the separation will be fairly obvious.

That is to say,

People will realize there are these big transitions,

I'm moving away from things that I used to do that just feel more 3d or lower,

I'm entering these new relationships with the world around me,

Sometimes it will feel new and different,

Exciting sometimes is oh my god,

Why am I putting up with this?

Other times,

It'll just seem surreal.

I mean,

What's happening here?

Trevor and I've talked to lots of people about this on on zoom,

And then here,

For me in in person Academy seminars,

And I've asked people,

Okay,

What's what's going on.

And people say a range of their dreams are very different and jump out and off and have two earths themes or processing old stuff themes.

And it's a lot of processing old things.

And last fall,

Some guide with bad taste decided it would be a good idea for me to relive over a period of a month,

All my childhood trauma,

I thought it was a terrible idea.

But apparently,

That whoever that was got the nod.

And I'm sure you guys have had that too.

So there's that.

And then there's this growing sensitivity.

And I wanted to try to get to this point as quickly as possible.

Because if there's a group of empaths,

The idea would be the sensitivity toward all kinds of things in,

In our environment,

Who we are,

And even to higher dimensional phenomena is increasing rapidly.

Now,

Without going into all the astrological details,

Within the last two years,

We have at half aspects that haven't happened in 600 years,

200 years,

165 years,

And 12 years,

All happening within a very short period of time.

And one aspect that we've never seen,

Simply because it's never happened in this moment in history.

And the a lot of the impact of that will be that people are having a sense of,

Okay,

I'm suddenly realizing something higher dimensional.

And a funny example of it today,

I had a client who was complaining that she's she's moving.

And no,

It's not Beth,

Beth is on the road,

This woman is moving,

And she has to have to move this heavy box across her floor.

And she said,

It was just so 3d to have to get up and carry that thing across the floor.

And I said,

What was the alternative?

And she said,

I had an image of it moving itself.

I said,

Okay,

You guys that know anything about the astral realm,

You know,

In the astral,

That's how things move.

So I said,

Think of what's happening,

What's happening is your higher dimensional astral self,

How many higher dimension you want to go is up to you is coming down and giving you that perception here and now about moving that box,

Which you would not have thought twice about moving a year ago.

And so there's that sensitivity to the higher dimensional,

People are having all kinds of relationships to the earth,

To stones,

To plants,

To animals or trees.

I have a friend who said,

I'm walking to work every day.

And I walked by all these gorgeous trees,

And I try to be friendly to trees.

But all of a sudden,

It's it said,

They're talking to me,

But not through my mind.

And I'm not sure what to make of it.

But this is happening.

And so that sensitivity is part of it,

Because I mean,

An important part of it,

Crucial part of it,

Because as the native elders would say,

Those people who are sensitive to but also having this,

This higher sense of what this higher consciousness should be,

That actually is what's going to be defining the higher earth and the higher earth awareness.

So it's being created right now.

The good news is,

It's being created right now.

The bad news is that's the cutting edge.

So a famous sentence that Trevor would have already mentioned for pioneers,

Which we kept repeating in the original Academy class about the great transformation back in 2012 to 2016.

All clear paths are behind you.

There are very few more challenging things on this planet than all clear paths are behind you.

Because most people are watching to see what the pioneers are going to do.

And by the way,

Criticizing them if they get it wrong,

What that person thinks is the right thing to do.

So you can be marginalized and criticized.

I mean,

You get the best of both worlds there.

And but you still have to figure out,

Okay,

What are we going to do?

We give things a shot and see how it's going.

So this is a new cutting edge.

And one helpful thing,

Because we always talk about the Academy,

I run a classical Academy and Academy East and West,

Always talk about tools and maps and methods.

We never talk about truth or facts or anything like that.

We figure people can work that out on their own.

Our job is give them a map that might be helpful or some method or some tool.

Anything else would seem presumptuous to most classical teachers,

Including,

By the way,

Confucius,

The Buddha,

Socrates,

Plato,

And I'm not just picking a small group,

It's a large group that really never talked in facts or truths at all.

They always talked in tools and methods.

And my academic colleagues always get that wrong.

That's another story.

But what was what they were what we were talking about is,

Okay,

How many maps or tools can we come up with?

And sometimes other people's experiences help us kind of have a sense of what's happening to become a kind of map for us.

And one of the things about the cutting edge is to say,

I'm going to go there and experiment and see what happens.

And when if you,

If you have highly developed sensitivities,

As empaths do,

You're getting feedback at a much wider,

Larger,

Greater range than people who wouldn't have those developed sensitivities.

And so a lot of times you're going to be extraordinarily helpful,

Not only to your friends,

But even to other pioneers,

Even if it's a random conversation.

And I think a great deal of this,

The challenge when people are talking about 3D to 5D kind of completing a great transformation is on one hand,

What are the things that I leave behind that I don't have to take with me?

And that's part of what people are talking about today.

People saying,

I never thought I'd quit that job,

Or I never thought I'd walk out of that relationship,

Or I never thought I would give up that approach.

And I've had that because in the academy,

I always used to like,

My academy classes are small,

So lots of discussion,

But I still had an office up to about a year plus ago.

And it was small enough that I'd put people in rows and I had a flip chart behind me.

And suddenly I realized last year,

This is too reminiscent of being in school when people think you have to have the right answer.

And this is,

If you're a pioneer,

There's no such thing as the right answer until you get it right.

Then you tell everybody you had it right,

Because they don't know any better.

So I took it down,

Took it all down.

I closed the office and I meet in people's homes and we sit in a circle.

I don't bring the flip chart.

My sole ambition is I pass out a handout every now and then,

Which nobody pays any attention to.

We just discuss with.

So Trevor,

That's an introduction.

I don't know what else you might want or need.

Well,

Certainly,

Actually,

I don't know how much I have ever said to you,

Chris,

Back in 2011,

The stuff that you would share in the Academy blew me away.

It was a case.

I don't understand what this guy is talking about.

I don't know how much I agree with it,

But it's just fascinating the breadth of vision that this guy has in terms of what comes out of his mouth.

You've dumped a fair amount of that inside 20 minutes here.

So what I'm saying to everybody is Chris has blown me away and I've been around him for 12 years now.

So by all means,

If you've got questions about all of that lot or any one particular part of this,

Feel free to ask me.

My one place that I'd like to start,

Chris,

Is very evident in terms of I kind of know where the answer is going when I say that.

So with this lady who wanted to move the box across the room without picking it up and lifting it,

That skill is coming in the not too distant future.

Yeah.

And I think that's one of the things that it's kind of fun and exciting now.

It's a bit abstract,

But when people talk about higher dimensions and higher dimensional guides,

Like people say,

My teacher is from the 49th dimension or mine from the 144th.

Well,

It depends on how you count them,

Of course.

We always say that.

I mean,

How many dimensions are in my body depends on how I count it.

But in traditional societies are counted as seven and astral is the next one up.

And the one after that is kind of very activist.

The one after that is focused on creativity and creative expression,

Because that's what transforms a culture.

In fact,

That's a fun thing to do.

If terrestrial is where things happen,

That's this level.

And I'm going to just use traditional names.

The astral levels where people go,

They recycle when they die and they just want to come back here.

But it's the place from which things look ideal.

Right.

Because if we think just normally,

If you think,

Well,

I wish this place looked nicer,

According to what?

Because all the ideals we have in our head aren't out there.

I mean,

Not counting beautiful forests and stuff like that,

But I mean,

The ideal world isn't there,

But it's at the astral.

Everything,

If you go to the astral right now,

If I safe dropped on my head and I ended up there,

Everything would look gorgeous and finished and complete and so on.

And those ideals,

When they're visited and terrestrials,

That means you're contacting your higher dimensional self that lives in that realm.

The one above that is very activist oriented.

Let's get the job done and so on.

And I've consulted activist groups.

I was reminded vividly two days ago,

I looked up an old contract I had.

And that's from that level.

We're going to be this selfless,

Get the job done type.

The level above that is where you get all kinds of creativity from art to the alchemical.

And that's a source of real change.

And so the activists that I work with that are very successful to tap into that creativity rather than trying to force or persuade people.

The level above that is this kind of holistic awareness.

And the level above that is multiverses and infinite things possible.

And I remember and above that is celestial.

If you're higher than that,

You can't you don't have any form to be here.

And I remember the old theosophist used to say,

The average human can't understand the top two or three levels.

Well,

One of those is you have very holistic knowledge.

Well,

We all think in whole systems of that any trouble at all.

And the Buddha would think that's brilliant,

By the way,

Thinking whole systems is half of what the Buddha thought was enlightenment.

But multiverses,

We've been Trevor and I've joked about this a couple of times.

We have a multiverse movie with Dr.

Strange.

We have a Spider-Man multiverse movie.

Then we had a second Dr.

Strange multiverse movie.

These are Marvel movies for kids.

Right.

This is the sixth dimension that the kids can get it.

Pretty good shot.

But,

You know,

We all have access to our higher dimensional selves.

And one of the predictions for this time was we're going to start talking to those more and more.

And that's why I was so amused when she said that in,

You know,

When we're talking today.

But she said,

Oh,

Yeah,

I just had this image.

And that's the way you think should really move.

Just have the image that they move and they move.

And I said,

Well,

That sounds like a description I've heard many times about the astral realm.

I used to do past life regression a lot more than they do now.

And people would describe what it's like.

But that's the other thing.

There are things that we think are normal human responses or skills that are really higher dimensional elements.

And I remember when I was in my 20s,

I had a Hindu teacher because I taught the world religions.

I wanted to just not just study academics.

I tried to go study with people who were actually in religion.

And this Hindu teacher used to say he'd point at me and he'd say,

This is what that your higher dimensional Atman looks like right now.

That's what it looks like.

But it's just a vehicle.

And Trevor knows he he used to say,

It's just a vehicle,

Chris.

Sometimes it'll move quickly in the left lane and you're happy camper.

Sometimes it gets stuck,

Stuck in the middle.

And you think,

Why am I stuck in the middle?

I think there's a rock song about that.

Sometimes it'll go down the right lane and it's fine.

You go a little more slowly.

Sometimes it'll run off the road.

You'll drive over a squirrel and feel terrible or get a flat tire,

Put the thing back on the road and get going again.

And so,

But he also thought there's this moment when all these higher dimensional cells will start to communicate much more.

And the native elders would say that's when the tourist prophecy starts to be fulfilled.

And as far as their symbols are concerned,

That would be last summer and last fall.

And it started.

So I could ask for a show of hands in terms of,

I've been talking to everybody in terms of,

Yup,

It's getting really intense right now.

It's getting intense on a daily base.

And it's a case,

I'm almost tempted to ask for a show of hands.

How many of you were feel like this can't go on like this for more than a couple of weeks before I joined the other people opting off the planet?

I think Veronica is there right now.

Chris,

You've talked about changes coming in the second week in April.

Give us an outline for what's happening for the rest of this year.

Well,

It actually started last August,

The symbols for the tourist prophecy and in astrological terms it's because Mars was in Gemini,

But it's retrograded the tail end of its run.

So from late October to third week in January,

Energy was really kind of slow,

Confused,

Things appeared not to move.

It was like walking through mud or something like that.

And astrologers would talk about that.

That wouldn't be unusual to have happen,

But this was just unusually kind of slogging and I need to get rid of this and I can't do that.

But that energy started to pick up as Mars completed its coming out of its cycle and out of its shadow in the middle of last month.

And then Jupiter has a cycle and Jupiter and so that energy feels it's picking up now.

And right now the energy is very sensitive,

By the way,

Mars is in Cancer and it doesn't like being in there.

Mars wants to take a sword and hit somebody and in Cancer it feels like baking a cake.

So it's kind of,

You know,

Off,

But it's nice and it's nurturing and it's caring and if you're an empath it's softer energy.

But it's also energy,

By the way,

Where you try to figure out where the edges of your emotions are,

Where the boundaries are and so on.

It's helpful for defining that this month.

But the other biggie is that Jupiter was with the Sun in Pisces just a little over a year ago and the energy there was what are my highest goals and ideals and that also Jupiter's hanging around Neptune as well in Pisces.

This is high goals and ideals,

The spiritual business,

Everything big.

But now Jupiter's coming,

It's going to join the Sun.

The middle of this month there's going to be a solar eclipse,

Something like the 20th or 21st and the Sun and Jupiter are going to be hanging around before that.

This is big,

Every 12 years Jupiter's in Aries with the Sun and it says this is great for pioneering.

What are the new things you want to start?

Starts building this energy in the spring that goes into the summer.

And so for starting something new,

For regaining enthusiasm and also it's in Aries,

It's what don't you want to do?

You leave that behind.

And interestingly I have lunch once a month with several guys and one is America's best futurist.

He keeps winning the awards and so I always check in with him about astrological trends and what he's seeing.

He started saying I'm starting to take this two-earths thing very seriously from the models I have but I see this spring and summer as one of the lightest energies we've seen in years.

This is a good time to initiate and to start building up the energy.

And he and I've talked about it that even the symbolism we're looking at is okay where's the other places where we're going to if we think of various intelligences we have where the physical intelligence is such that we want our bodies to be healthier and more active or the emotions where we want to work with the emotional stuff and say okay we want that to be lighter and more committed.

The intellect to get clearer and more disciplined so that doesn't get sucked in by programming or thought forms.

And then the intuition the imagination the imaginal is the one that's open to the highest experiences we have the what we call the spiritual or the mystical or the magical or whatever.

And that's one that was shut down in school because it wasn't trained and well neither was the body neither were the emotions and those were all supposed to stay home.

But now that I think that opens up in a much bigger way as well.

And so that energy for letting the imagination run and see what you want to commit to that's new and exciting and different in the spring and into the summer.

Then when the retrograde started in the fall there's this rethinking of everything we initiated.

So it's this very interesting strategic moment where you think okay I'm going to try this Jupiter and Aries it's pioneering it's a pioneering sign and Jupiter symbolizes big and expansive Aries let's go forward.

So they're going to try this and try that and try this and try that.

And then in the fall and say okay what how do I rethink this let me sit back and do a little pioneer review.

Now some of these things don't have to be big and exciting.

These are things that can be very they can many can be small and subtle.

In fact there's a there's a channel source that Kerber knows I like because I've known it for years and it's fairly reliable.

And cosmic awareness and cosmic awareness has said people that don't go with the upper earth the changes that are coming in the culture are going to be devastating.

For people who kind of go part of the way it's going to be challenging.

For people go to the upper earth the changes are going to be subtle and sometimes even exciting.

And these people could be they're living in three different realities even if it seems to be the same planet.

And by the way the native elders were hopeless on the details of this.

Okay it's just two you're talking about two planets and for a long time they said that and there's actually somebody on this call who had a visit to a higher planet.

We were doing a regression into the future.

But or is it two timelines?

Is it this county is one and that county is the other?

They have no details.

But the interesting thing about pioneers is we're used to living without it.

We'll think okay let's see what happens.

You mean your entry way into the new earth doesn't depend on which way you voted in the last election?

Joke joke.

Trevor knows that I part of my work is I'm a political consultant and by happy accident I got to be considered a high class political consultant which I am not because I happen to give an address to the world future society chapter in Washington D.

C.

So they thought oh anybody who's addressing us because the Washington D.

C.

Chapter of the world future society is a bunch of men who are they look to be about 130 years old.

They all smoke cigars,

Wear three-piece suits and came out of the womb that way.

And when I was there in October of 2001 they were very happy to say they had discovered two things women and young people.

And I said wow a real Columbus moment.

Anyway what happens is that consultants will at a certain level you'll know who the president is going to be four or eight years in advance because they groom them and then you know all the signs of who's going to be doing that.

And there are only about three surprises in the last 60 years of somebody they picked but ended up not being president.

But so yeah the I would say about voting is if you're voting for the president and you think that vote is going to make a difference it probably won't.

However if there's a powerful human consciousness behind that that will make a difference.

So when people ask me you know how do you feel about voting that's it.

They already picked the person and so far it's always been a guy.

But we have the joke of this century the consultants we had a white guy a black guy and an orange guy so we're due for one.

And you bring up the point there Chris that yeah the discussion so far is really good brain candy and the fact is we're changing the world by just gathering together and race and that is more or at least as important.

Yeah I mean one of the things that you see as a surprise to Westerners is that the Russians and Eastern Europeans started studying very sophisticated forms of intuition in the 1930s under Stalin.

By the 60s and 70s they had thousands of experiments showing that empathic sensitivity,

Various forms of psychic experiences,

Intuitions on were absolutely the case.

But Eastern Europeans were not so much into that.

Eastern Europe as we all know was materialist atheist in those days so you weren't allowed to talk about the spiritual or the psychic or anything.

If you did you'd end up spending your vacation breaking rocks in Siberia.

So what the scientists had to do was come up with a whole lot of very sophisticated field theories which is exactly of course what Einstein and Planck and Heisenberg and the scientists were doing here with new physics.

And then it was introduced to biology twice in the 20th century Ludwig von Bergeland and then Rupert Sheldrake so that we realized you have these interacting fields that go all over the planet.

So if you have a great big powerful insight and it doesn't have to be intellectual it can be anywhere that big powerful impact that's like throwing a stone into a pond and it ripples out and changes the whole planet.

It changes the lives of people you'll never meet unless you have time to you know meet eight billion people.

So you've got questions.

I have a question I'm afraid to ask it.

It's like so here's my question for you so how you know we're we're empaths and sensitive intuitive how does one continue to assure that whatever purity whatever purity is in that is sustainable in the world that's transitioning right now?

I don't know if that's the right way to put it but I have you know obviously I have a lot of people that I know in a very large city and we're surrounded by anger and and fast drivers and people flipping you off and you know anger anger anger and so yeah how does I mean when I say the purity of it and I know Trevor talks about you know the the projector which I work on but as we continue to kind of move forward it feels like there's so much coming at you to try to keep you from exercising your skills your talents you know and what you're meant what you're meant to do.

So is there a force a battle for that right now?

I understand and I do acknowledge I think there's stuff happening that is for me it's relaxing a little bit more and I do feel like I'm moving forward now it's not as hard for me but I don't know does that make sense?

I hope that was that was yeah that's a great question and one of the things in in Trevor and I talked a lot about this especially back in 2011 is it's the context and in this case when you have a context of a transformation it's looking at the experience and saying okay which of those things especially for the upper earth do I release and relinquish as Bearheart that teach used to say you say you can release the thing but also relinquish it let it go and don't have anything invested in it or things that I kind of stay away from I move away from that also is part of the upper earth there are also times within the transformation when you think okay what's this about so for instance the woman I was talking to today in her chart she has this very prominent venus and aries and so she said I get angry about things I get so angry and I said well how about if we kind of go down the list of the things you get angry about is any one of those a transformation point and sometimes it's just old-fashioned annoyance and irritation you know I'm an aquarian I have a lot of aquarium planets and we love annoyance and irritation it's one of the ways we process human beings yes that's annoying or it's interesting and it's just kind of a response that says you're responding to this person doesn't really mean very much but if I get angry really bothered about something it would be am I supposed to move away from that and it's good because these are pioneering questions the beauty of your question it's a great open question and we don't know what the answer is but it's saying I know there are things that I figure that's just not mine to deal with.

Ferber also knows I had an old metaphysical teacher I was a little too involved in trying to help people when I was younger and so he used to say what do you think Chris should we save this person or leave him to God and I should say is that a trick question you know but I think there's it's for each of us to try to figure out okay is this something when something niggles at me I will eventually say okay I'm supposed to go do something about it what is it and especially if it's an emotional niggle because our emotional intelligence is very smart but they very seldom talk to us in ways that aren't slightly annoying you know things like anger and grief and irritation and and so I think okay how about a little elation today or something like that or I was looking for happiness this morning of course they know I won't do anything about happiness so it's a I get the other so it's I think it's that's kind of especially for the two earths it's a great question because that's the short form without going into the astrological detail is there's a there's a thing called the Venus star point that is usually ruled by one planet for 100 years from 1926 the last October it was ruled by Mars anything feel margin about any of you women living in a patriarchy with bombs and war since 1926 right okay yeah well in October late October of last year it went into Venus I went into a sign ruled by Venus so all of a sudden we're asking some of the questions are what are the Venusian strategies because there's a sense in which we're all good at margin strategies we know how to be dutiful strategic responsible get the job done do it because we have to do it got the t-shirt know how to do all that now it's saying what is the Venusian version of that in the academy we keep quoting Rumi's famous line God guides us by our loves well when Venus is dominating the Venus star point it's by our loves and the last time it was doing this people were asking themselves a big question and the question was do you think we really need a king because the Venus star point was around in the 1770s and in America people were saying you know we're going to have a better time without a king annoying us and telling us what to do and what people often don't remember about the American Revolution was that this was a whole new idea that the communities could do it themselves and most of the American Revolution was about ideas not that many people were fighting in it and what we also forget is that the British commanders all wanted to lose the war because they agreed with the Americans that's why their military is so pathetic and military historians have commented on that but we have that big kind so that that's a big idea in those days let's do it without a king or an emperor queen or somebody tells us what to do the question is what's the big idea now and I suspect it has something to do with things like inner authority but with Venus and Libra the star point has to do with beauty and joy and harmony well if you say that somebody's going to think you're either Pollyanna or you really don't get out enough or something but what if those become real criteria and you know it's one thing to say I wish things were better I know they're miserable and horrible that's a very Mars Venus star point but he said no hold it hold it they could be beautiful my friend Veronica just turned that didn't you he said yes Pollyanna that worked you've been a Pollyanna for years and I think one of the thing another Venusian point that I'd like to make is without going into sacred geometry in any kind of detail the golden proportion that the classical world took very seriously that's from India to Greece there's a way that you can think about the golden proportion that underlies everything the way galaxies are made the earth the way the earth is made the shapes of our bodies how we create the spaces we live in roughly the size of this the things our faces are in is the golden proportion and credit cards are this shape this is a shape that people took very seriously right through the renaissance and said you might have big problems I mean they had kings and emperors they had popes that fought with swords in the renaissance so they had problems but they said you know the what happens is you have a universe the golden proportion tells us a beauty and harmony therefore in our lives that means regeneration learning and problems are going to get solved the only thing you don't want to fall into is a good guy guys versus bad guys that's the old martian piece the Venusian piece is no let's do something different and so the question is what does that look like when you know the golden proportion dropped out of math um when in the age of colonization and dictators didn't want that either we don't want people to know that there's a mathematical guarantee of harmony and beauty and that's the way that things plants grow that way and so on there's brilliant books on but Venus is very much involved in that.

Chris when people talk about um lower frequencies higher frequencies in old terminology good versus bad good versus evil you see that very much in the 3d mindset the really we need to move away from yeah I always like Ghandi's famous quote he said you know I could fight somebody on the outside but you know I have so many devils running around inside me that have to fight I'm going to leave the battle to that and and he always thought you know do the psychological development and that'll take care of it um but I think that is one there's another difference of the Mars Venus star point in 1926 thinking that there were world wars then and following World War II we had Korea and Vietnam and right but the Venusian one would be well now hold it what does it mean to have a universe where you're dealing with you are dealing with interconnected and so on so somebody that annoys me um I might think okay yeah that's annoying but what's this about and I'm still connected that person in some way in fact we used to have a joke my brother and sister and I she was a she was a new age liberal democrat he was a born-again Christian conservative and I was a political consultant so we had these political conversations we agreed what we used to call a Confucian relationship because Confucius used to define relationships in certain ways that made them functional and one of them is you keep a nice pleasant Confucian distance she lived in Alabama he lived in California and I live in Pennsylvania and we talked we talked on the phone all the time once a year so we got along just great it's a very Venusian sort of strategy everybody deserves to be loved some people deserve to be loved from a long way away

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Exciting discussion... felt like I was right there, thank you!

Enlightening! Especially in 2025 🙏🏼

That was very interesting and informative . Thank you 🙏💓

Not easy, but interesting.
Looking forward to part 2.
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