Awakening Divine Feminine Energy

With a Masters Degree in Transpersonal Psychology and a Masters in Women’s Studies, Victoria Zaitz talks about nurturing spiritual power in body-based practices and repairing the split of body and spirit perpetuated by patriarchal religion on Female Frequency Podcast. This spiritual psychologist, intuitive development teacher, and multigenerational psychic now helps people find their own intuition and courage in connection with feminine earth energies.

Victoria shares her own serpentine path to kundalini awakening of the “coiled” primordial life force within. We explore the many faces of the divine feminine, from Mother Mary to Kālī, Lakshmi, Brigid, and more. We dive into Grandmother Spider medicine, animal guides, and shamanic calling. Discover everyday rituals, manifestation, and magic-making that reclaims the sacred feminine in ecology. Learn how to invite and embody earth goddess energy in your own life.

Transcript

Hello everyone,

My next guest on Female Frequency Podcast is Victoria Zaitz.

Victoria once shared with me advice that shifted and turned my perspective.

She said,

Feelings are evidence.

As we live in a society where so many people think that feelings are a sign of weakness,

It's actually the opposite.

Feelings are a powerful lens.

Let me tell you,

Shift happens and the female frequency is here to help you.

Help you be more creative,

Help ground you and help you connect the dots.

Victoria did not find it strange that her grandmother could stop watches with her mind or even talk to dead relatives.

She sensed otherworldly beings even as a baby in the crib.

She is a spiritual psychologist,

Intuitive development teacher and multi-generational psychic that helps people find their own intuition and courage in connection with the feminine earth energies.

With a master's degree in transpersonal psychology and a master's in women's studies,

Victoria talks about nurturing spiritual power and body-based practices and repairing that split of body and spirit that is perpetuated by the patriarchal religion.

Victoria shares her own serpentine path to a kundalini awakening,

Which is all about that coiled premortal life force within.

We explore the many faces of the divine feminine from Mother Mary to Kali,

Lakshmi,

Bridget,

Mary Magdalene and more.

We dive into grandmother spider medicine,

Animal guides and shamanic calling.

She helps us discover everyday ritual,

Manifestation and magic making that reclaims the sacred feminine in ecology.

Inside this episode,

You'll learn how to invite and embody earth goddess energy into your own life.

Okay,

I am so excited.

Let's go meet Victoria.

Oh,

Thank you sister for joining Female Frequency.

I'm so excited that you're here.

Thanks for having me here.

Thanks for spending time with us.

This is the time,

Some of my favorite times when I can just get a little flame of fire going and talk about important things for everybody,

Especially.

Amen.

Yeah,

Let's bring it home.

For all of the listeners,

Can you tell us a little bit more about a moment when you knew that you just had to help others dive into their spirituality?

Right,

So I always felt this way because I was very spiritual from a very young age.

My first memories,

For example,

In the crib are of otherworldly beings being all around me,

Dead people,

Different types of entities.

I remember that even from before memory was really technically a thing.

My dad told me that I was an old soul when he saw me as a baby,

Just from looking in my eyes.

He knows that I've been here many times before.

And then psychic ability runs in my family too.

So my grandma is very psychic.

She's seen all of her dead relatives and she used to stop watches with her mind.

Really?

It wasn't anything too strange for me,

But probably the biggest thing from my childhood was when I was five years old and I had a vision of the Virgin Mary.

I grew up Roman Catholic,

But I was too young at that point to really even know who the Virgin Mary was.

So I kind of put it together later.

But basically I had this vision with my eyes open.

I was laying in bed looking up at the ceiling and she just appeared on my ceiling.

She was this beautiful woman,

Young.

She had this blue veil in the way that you traditionally see Mother Mary.

She had this just radiant face with this amazing love and acceptance,

Just the glowing off of her.

The first thing she said to me was,

Don't be afraid,

Which is something that is often said in the Bible when people see different visions.

Is that right?

Then she told me that I was here to help other people.

That was the point of my incarnation and that I was going to help a lot of people.

That my life was going to be very difficult,

But she did not want me to give up.

She told me that the second half of my life was going to be easier than the first half of my life.

Basically,

I just needed to hang in there and eventually everything would be revealed.

I was told that I was here to help people.

As a young child,

I already knew that,

But I didn't know it was going to be in a spiritual way.

I was thinking about what I wanted to do whenever I got older.

Spirituality wasn't really a part of it.

I just knew I was here to help people.

I got involved with the nonprofit world eventually.

I worked at a woman's shelter.

I majored in women's studies in my undergraduate work.

I was really into feminism,

Feminine spirituality,

And helping women in a practical way.

Then I also got into LGBT rights,

Labor activism,

And all kinds of things that impacted women.

The nonprofit way of helping,

Because I needed a job that would pay me to help people,

But the whole corporate world completely turned me off.

I know I wasn't going to do that.

That's what I thought at first was going to be how I helped people.

Then I just got more and more into spirituality.

When I was in high school,

I was kind of like an atheist for a while because I went to Catholic school.

They didn't have any good answers for me when I was in school that really met my satisfaction.

I kind of threw the baby out with the bathwater for a while,

But then I got into practicing Buddhism and yoga.

Then I got into feminist witchcraft for a while.

We're going to talk about that a little later.

Yeah,

Feminist witchcraft.

I always had weird experiences,

But when it really started to take off was probably about 16 years ago.

I started taking intuitive development classes.

I figured out that I was accurate and I was helpful from getting feedback from other people.

I realized that that was a legitimate thing,

Another way that I could channel spirit and help people.

Then four years after that,

I had my spiritual awakening,

My shamanic initiation,

You could call it.

My first dark night of the soul.

Then at that point,

I started doing all of this work professionally.

It was very clear to me that that's what I was here to do.

It was very frustrating at first because I was kind of mad at God because there were just so many things I could do.

I was like,

You got to tell me what to do here.

Eventually,

It all became clear and I figured it out and turned it into a career.

That is,

I think,

So ideal to let people know how much your life has been building on to where you are to today in these repeated messages.

That's a lot to unpack,

Victoria.

Let's go back for a second because I got to tell you,

When I started having my messages from Mother Mary,

I was like,

Hey,

I didn't go to church.

I don't know what this is.

I don't understand because I was like,

I can't just go Catholic.

What are all these messages?

They just kept being clear audiently,

Like hearing the light.

Not the darkness,

Go into the love part.

A lot of it was self-love.

Then I started having clear audiences with Mary Magdalene.

How do we help people differentiate Mother Mary from the Catholicism to the spirituality?

Well,

I grew up Roman Catholic and I think I chose that.

As a soul,

Because of past lives,

To tell you the truth,

I really think I was very connected to her in past lives.

She never told me she was the Mother Mary and I just kind of put that two and two together.

There's many beautiful books out there.

One of them is Gifts of Grace.

If people get that book,

That will sort of explain a lot about Mother Mary and how she appears to people.

She appears to people all over the world,

Of all faiths,

Not just Christianity,

Not just Catholicism.

Even the Guadalupe image.

She spoke to Juan Diego in the language that he understood,

His native language,

And had elements of the goddess that was applicable to the native people there.

She appears to people in a way that I think their belief system is going to understand.

We have this big overarching understanding of the divine feminine with many different faces.

There's many different goddesses in the world,

Many different religions revere the feminine in different ways.

She has many different faces.

I think that she just comes in the way that's most familiar or maybe there's a certain element of that archetype that you need to work with.

For example,

Many people don't know that Mother Mary is a demon killer and basically a patron of exorcists,

Which is also part of some of the work that I do from time to time.

Clearing out houses and attachments from people and whatnot.

It just makes sense that that particular energy is associated with me because of past lives and the mission of being supported by a certain element of the divine feminine.

Other people have different elements of the divine feminine that they connect with,

But honestly,

I think it's really all the same thing.

Just because you see Mother Mary or you see Mary Magdalene or you see Kali or maybe you see Goddess Brigid,

There's so many ways that she can come through.

It doesn't really matter which way.

You don't have to adopt Catholicism or Hinduism or any religion because she appears to you in a certain way.

I think she's universal.

She appears in a way that makes the most sense for the person.

For the person.

I got to tell you,

She showed up as Grandmother Spider Medicine for me probably 30 years ago now or close to that.

I see on your Instagram that you were having workshops with Grandmother Spider.

How did that go this weekend?

Yeah,

It was really cool.

Spider Medicine is very creative.

How the web is woven and it's a metaphor for creativity and creating your own life.

There's just so many lessons to learn from the spider.

The big one,

I think,

Is the process of manifestation and how you can set the stage for something.

The spider sits in the center of the web and just waits patiently for what it needs to come to it.

I think that's something that we can do in our lives and make sure that we set the stage and trust.

Trust the universe to provide our next meal or whatever we're asking it to provide to us.

In the native traditions,

The elders are very revered.

It could have been Grandfather Spider,

But it's not.

It's Grandmother Spider.

The feminine is also more revered.

The earth is also more revered as well.

They're all interconnected.

That's the ecofeminism thing from the Native American culture.

They're probably more ecofeminist than most cultures.

Yeah,

Yeah.

I just remember,

Too,

When we were having chats last week and I said,

Hey,

I got to have lunch with a snake.

Do you remember what you said?

What did I say?

You were like,

That's hot.

Just in terms of spirituality and just sitting with the divine feminine and the transformations of life.

You were like,

That's hot.

That's why I need more conversations with Victoria on ecofeminism because you don't have to be scared of the earth.

So many times we read these statistics of what we're doing to the earth and where we are with it is terrible.

But if we can help be part of the solution and everybody get together and see how we can work collectively is definitely something I'm all about.

I'm so happy that you can help talk to everybody here.

Yeah,

Me too.

If you're seeing animals in strange places,

Those animals are speaking to you.

That's known from Native American culture.

It's known from shamanism.

It's very much the shamanic path to have these animals come your way.

It's no coincidence,

Especially if they're not usually there.

I had a big snake show up outside of a gas station here in an urban area in Pittsburgh where I am.

During that time,

I was dreaming about snakes.

Snakes were crawling all over my body,

In particular chakra areas that were getting cleared out.

So it would wrap around my throat and my dreams and let me know where this kundalini,

Healing energy was working on me.

During that process,

I would see snakes everywhere,

Including an extremely long,

Maybe 12-foot black snake outside of a gas station as soon as I opened the door to go out.

You can't make that up when those things happen.

For me,

It was a symbol of my kundalini awakening,

Which I was in the midst of at that time.

It's definitely very transformative energy,

Very much associated with the root chakra and the body and the earth as well.

Holly!

I get so excited when I hear about people's transformations because they can happen anywhere.

When you get that clear sense of knowing you can be anywhere.

I've been in the middle of Target and I had one.

Yeah,

The universe.

I think what that is,

Is we're so used to living in this ego-based type of way that society tells you that we need to live.

We need to be concerned about money and our reputation and our image.

Whether we have a boyfriend or a girlfriend,

All the stuff that we're supposed to be caring about.

Spirituality and your connection to the divine is typically not one of those things,

At least not in a more traditional type of way.

A lot of people don't necessarily relate to that so much anymore.

Because of that,

We have this real world and spiritual world division.

Where we think our spirituality is very separate from our everyday world and our everyday consciousness.

The fact is,

It's not.

The spiritual world and this world are entangled,

Intertwined.

Physics tells us we have 11 different dimensions.

Different aspects of the spiritual world are very close to us.

Sometimes the spiritual world breaks through our everyday consciousness and gives us a glimpse of what's going on behind the scenes.

When that happens,

We're also shocked when we have these synchronicities and we have these magical moments.

I'm not shocked anymore.

That's the process of awakening.

It's just so funny to me how we keep those two things so separate.

That also speaks about the patriarchy.

About how spirituality is supposed to not be connected to the earth.

It's supposed to be this male guy in the sky that nobody really relates to.

That is so separate from your everyday life.

When we're looking at divine feminine energy and magic and things like that,

We're working with earth energy.

We're working with stuff that the body of the earth is the body of the divine feminine.

That's why we treat it like.

.

.

I don't know if I can swear.

Yes,

We can.

That's why we treat it like that.

We need to work to not have this separation between the spiritual world and the real world.

Understand these things are very connected and close together.

Yes,

I think as people start to understand those synchronicities and these miracles in their life with those small but very life-altering connections,

It doesn't have to only be one huge kundalini rising and then you're done.

It's listening to that spirituality,

Listening to yourself with the rhythms of the earth every single day.

Reconnecting with the natural laws is how we can help reclaim our spirituality and the ecology with where we are with Mother Earth.

Absolutely.

Wow,

You have just explained so many of your spiritual awakenings.

I definitely hope that those listeners that can hear that can chime in and let us know some more about your spiritual awakenings.

Because that's how we help each other through this collective connection.

This is just making me so excited.

I can tell you more about my spiritual awakening in general if you want.

I'd love to.

I think spiritual awakening has been happening to me for many years.

Once I started doing meditation and kundalini yoga especially,

I started having a lot of different transcendent experiences and that became more of a regular thing in my life.

It all started with what I would call the top-down spiritual awakening.

That's from the crown chakra down.

Of course,

All spiritual awakening incorporates the chakra system and working with those energies.

My first spiritual awakening was top-down.

I'd have a lot of activity in the crown chakra and in the upper chakras.

It was really blissful,

Very energetic,

Body-based type of thing.

You can feel it.

It was very blissful and magical.

I would go into these love-filled places where there was no distinction between me and the environment.

I was one with everything.

I felt so much of this love,

Very similar to everyone else's experience of this.

I foolishly thought I was becoming enlightened.

It actually freaked me out a little bit because I didn't want to go too far in my meditations because I thought I might not be able to come back to the regular world and make money and do things that you got to do on earth.

I would go really deep into these meditations.

Then I met my twin flame,

Which is really what led to the kundalini awakening,

Which is different.

That's from the root chakra up.

Then from there,

I basically had years and years and I'm still in it.

I'm still in the kundalini awakening.

It's more active in dormant stages.

That's the earth energy.

That's the divine feminine.

Doesn't that sound,

I'm relating this,

But it's very much sounds like goddess peel or pell from the volcano.

Yeah.

Because they go dormant for a little bit and then come back in full and then spew.

That's a great analogy.

Yeah,

That's exactly what it was like.

I would get illnesses that no doctor could figure out.

Oh,

Wait a minute.

You were born in Hawaii.

I was.

Then I would get these really intense clearings and purging.

For one example,

Just to let everybody know in case they have this weird things happen,

They won't think they're going crazy.

One day,

My guides were like,

We're going to clear you out massively.

They put me in bed for three days.

Of course,

They didn't know I was going to be in bed for three days until they told me at the end,

It's going to be three days.

Don't worry about it.

When I was freaking out.

Basically,

I could feel the kundalini energy moving to different chakra points in my body.

It's a very physical thing.

It would just dwell on a certain area.

Then I would have emotions and things that were correlated to that area.

I went back to the moment of my soul's creation.

I went the whole way back to the Big Bang at the moment when my soul was created.

I felt the split from my soul group because we were once very much closer energetically.

I felt the split from my soul group and all the pain that resulted from that.

Just past lifetime clearing.

It was wild.

It was intense.

Of course,

I still got up and ate and went to the bathroom and all that.

I just needed to go through this clearing process.

Then on the third day,

My guides were like,

Okay,

We're done.

Here's what you're going to do.

You're going to go outside.

You're going to put your bare feet on the ground.

You're going to put your hands on the ground.

Any of this excess energy we've been running through you is going to go straight to the earth.

You're going to feel 100% better and grounded.

That's what I did.

That's what happened.

That's just an example.

We go through these clearings and purgings.

I still do to this day.

I think that's good because I don't hold on to all of this energy.

I allow my emotions to be felt and just run through me.

The Kundalini awakening,

It's no joke.

It's very difficult.

There's a lot of clearing that goes on.

Yeah.

I'd love to tell the listeners if they're looking for a guide to help with their Kundalini rising or any part that they're going through with their chakras.

I definitely recommend you.

You totally helped me through mine.

I remember you just telling me how brave I was.

I didn't go into that meeting thinking this is what's going to happen.

I thought we're doing some Reiki.

We're meditating.

It's just time for me to connect inside.

The next thing I know,

The snake was rising and my whole entire life flashed before my eyes.

In a slide format.

I didn't have so much clear audience then,

But it was very visual like you're saying too.

Mm-hmm.

Here's the problem.

People will think that you're going crazy.

If you went to your shrink with that kind of information.

That's one thing that I'd really like to change because I'm also involved with the psychological world as well.

I have a master's in transpersonal psychology,

Which is actually how we met because Yogatera was at the same school as me.

That's right.

Eventually,

I'd like to really work with psychologists to help them to understand a spiritual awakening more.

We don't pathologize all of these things quite as quickly.

Many different shamanic cultures,

When they look at our system here,

They're just like,

Well,

Your shamans are locked up in the nuthouse.

Some of them might be having these genuine experiences and we just think that they're crazy.

That's really unfortunate.

Yeah.

So many of them are just giving out a pharmaceutical to be like,

Oh,

I don't know what this is.

Go take this,

Which totally numbs you out or even worse.

People can't really synthesize what's happening inside their body.

Right.

Man.

Man.

Wow.

We have,

I feel like we've really been able to identify several ways that people can start connecting with the natural law around them and definitely inside.

Do you think inside needs to come from within first so then people can connect collectively?

That is a really hard question that someone asked me and I keep going.

Well,

I guess it depends on the time and the day and everything.

Yeah,

I think it's definitely a very much an internal process.

And,

You know,

The big problem is that we don't spend,

It's not woven into our culture to spend too much time reflecting or being alone or even working through your feelings or just,

You know,

Anything like that.

It really goes against the grain of what we're taught to do.

But I absolutely think it's way more healthy.

So I think,

You know,

To dive really deeper into your feminine energy,

You know,

One thing that I would recommend that people do is start studying goddesses.

And I have a goddess circle that I do every month for that reason,

Where we look at,

You know,

Different goddess from different cultures and what does that goddess teach us?

How can we be more like that goddess?

How can we really embody that goddess in our own life?

So I might make that an online community at some point here.

So then you can join since we're so far away from each other.

I know I would love to.

And yeah,

So it really shows you how the feminine has been revered,

You know,

In different religious traditions.

So and then you can also make an altar to the feminine representations that you resonate with.

I always recommend that to have little pictures or statues or,

You know,

Things that are right.

Yeah,

Right.

Venus.

Venus of Willendorf.

She is my mainstay right now.

Mainstay.

So it just it helps you to connect to that energy.

And then you can make rituals or prayers or meditations or magic,

You know,

That includes them.

Just start asking them to be,

You know,

Part of your life.

Basically,

Start to develop a relationship with them.

And then,

You know,

Just like just like that,

They'll show up more in your life.

And then also work on developing your intuition.

So and you can work with me on that.

That's something that I help people to do.

That will help you to be more in touch with your spirituality,

Yourself,

And also the divine feminine energy.

Intuition is,

You know,

For the most part,

A divine feminine energy.

Oh,

Hallelujah.

And that's why it's been poo-pooed so much.

And then start seeing the earth as a feminine energy and start treating it with respect.

Start practicing gratitude for what you already have.

You know,

Gratitude for everything that the earth gives us every single day.

Every single day.

Even the man-made things that we think aren't from the earth are from the earth.

Look,

Everything here is from the earth.

Even your computer is from the earth.

You know,

So like we haven't just given,

You know,

So much.

Instead of,

You know,

Raping and pillaging the earth and just kind of just taking what we want from it.

You know,

Start looking at it in a more grateful fashion.

Grateful way.

And,

You know,

I looked today as we're three days out from the full moon.

And on the full moon,

I tried to practice like,

What am I as a mirror of the full moon?

What am I,

What am I full of?

And as a way to be,

Remember what is happening for that month of being grateful for.

And it helps me be more present is basically what I'm saying.

And in a very grateful way.

So with this full moon cycle,

I'm leaning into the things that I am most grateful for.

And,

You know,

I can say that my life this month has been full of feminine energy.

It's been full of adventure.

That's for sure.

And it's been really full of just love,

Of love.

Yeah.

Well,

That's great.

That's a great point.

The moon cycles,

Because the moon cycles are connected to our own moon cycle.

Yes.

You know,

So we are directly connected to that as women and to the energy of the moon.

And that's why,

You know,

Women are associated with the lunar energy because women are supposed to be the reflectors of the sun.

Right.

And men are the solar energy.

So we've had that association for a very long time.

And following,

You know,

The moon cycles and,

You know,

Doing different things on the new and full moon can definitely get you in touch with the feminine earth energy.

Probably,

That's probably one of the better ways to do it.

Well,

To each their own,

Because I know,

I know we all need,

Need more or,

You know,

Just being open to different ways.

Because as we get older,

Our sensitivities change,

Our ways about us change with our earthly lessons and our assignments that we have here.

You know,

I,

I,

Some of the shamanism techniques that you and I have worked on,

Those have definitely just changed for me just in the last five years too.

So I can see how all of these things are going to help everybody and,

And just help me for the rest of my day too.

Yeah.

Also getting in touch with the body,

Because I think the body is very much associated with,

You know,

Feminine energy.

So respecting and protecting the body and being in the body,

Because a lot of us are not very embodied just in general.

We're taught to just be in our heads and,

You know,

Forget about the body.

So that's another piece of it.

Looking out,

You know,

Just spending more time outside.

We have to deliberately do that because everything happens in,

In a,

You know,

A brick box everywhere.

And we have to deliberately get outside.

So go hug a tree.

And then another way I thought of is feminist art.

No feminist art gets you thinking,

You know,

About the state of the earth,

Women,

The things that we struggle with that can really help to create a community,

You know,

Around feminine energy.

So that's another thing to think about.

I think with that exercise,

I think I'll do a drawing today and from like,

And let today's session reverberate in me and I'll do a little drawing today.

Maybe,

Maybe even add a little paint to it.

That'd be a great exercise for everybody to do too.

I think,

I mean,

Just as someone that is an art advisor and just thinks that when your creativity,

Everybody is an artist.

And so to start listening to your body and not trying to judge what comes out of your creative strokes with your heart and hand activities is,

Like you said,

It's a great way.

Thanks for,

Thanks for reminding me of that.

Yeah,

Yeah.

So art,

I think people have the wrong idea,

You know,

Again,

You know,

Art,

Just the theme of the day,

Everything has been,

You know,

Tainted by the patriarchy,

You know,

And including the,

Including the art world.

So,

You know,

I think that causes people to think,

You know,

That art has got to be hoity-toity and,

You know,

Bougie and also perfect.

And it can't just be something that,

You know,

Is expressive and messy,

You know,

And maybe a little emotional.

And spiritual,

Yeah.

In the 70s,

Yeah,

The patriarchy just put this academic slant all over the art world in the 60s and through the psychedelics,

They poo-pooed all of those creations that were coming through.

Like they didn't like the color,

They didn't like the action,

They didn't like what the artists were doing,

Like what was happening inside of them,

What their messages were,

What they were talking about.

And,

You know,

There's people like Alex Gray out there and Alison Gray that are working right now and they stuck to what they wanted to do and now they have their own sanctuary up in Upper State New York.

I've been there.

It's a very cool place.

Oh my God,

You've been there.

Yeah,

I visited there once for this really cool like art painting,

Like EDM dance party.

It was very fun.

It was a cool community.

Oh,

I am so happy you got to go because I would,

I would have,

Yeah.

Yeah,

I met him,

He was there.

He was just,

You know,

He just act like a regular Joe Schmo kind of guy.

Regular,

Yeah.

You know,

My favorite kind of person.

Down to earth,

Yeah.

Down to earth,

Yeah.

And then look at Judy Chicago,

You know,

I've helped her realize one of her exhibitions at SF MoMA and she had her own feminist art curriculum in a college level course.

And she just kept getting,

The art world kept trying to erase her all through the decades and now she's really starting to thrive.

Women has been,

You know,

I took a feminist art course somewhere in college there too,

You know,

And I'm realizing that how much like,

You know,

If you go through any art book,

You go to any museum right now,

Pick up an art book,

History of art,

Go through it,

Flip through the pages.

How many women are you going to see?

Okay,

Like how many women of color are you going to see?

How many,

You know,

You're not,

You are not going to see it.

So,

You know,

And we know it's out there,

You know,

And yeah,

In the 70s is when it really,

You know,

Came into prominence when feminism had its second wave,

I think that was second wave there.

So yeah,

So just seek out,

You're going to have to deliberately seek out feminist art and eco-feminist art,

But that will help you to get in touch with the feminine in a very creative way.

Yeah,

Hopefully listening to this podcast,

I'm going to introduce a lot of people to the feminist art group that's happening through American and throughout the world too.

I've got a list going.

So I'm happy to keep on tracking on that and introduce people to these artists and for me just to learn about their process.

Some of them are just so amazing.

There's Nancy Holt,

She has now passed on,

But she is like an earth artist.

That's what they were calling her back in the day.

But she was able to connect like with the North Star and with her sculptures and where the reflection hit on the earth and what it meant for that place and what it meant during that season.

I mean,

There's so many things that we have,

Were not taught in an art curriculum program.

Right,

And just taking it back to the earth like that,

You know,

Witnessing some,

You know,

Either an installation or a piece of performance art or anything that has to do with the earth,

You're forced to be outside.

You're forced to,

You know,

Actually engage with that energy.

I mean,

How many,

You know,

Art installations are outside?

Not enough.

Not enough.

No,

No.

Oh,

I just worked with this artist.

You will love her.

I'll have to send you the link.

Her name is Jodi,

Another Jodi,

Jodi Sperling,

And she does these dance performances in crazy places.

I mean,

She does,

She lives and works in New York.

So she's constantly having conversations and dances around the climate crisis in her area.

But then she's able to get these grants and she's traveling all over the world.

The last one she went to was in the snow and ice.

I believe it was the Antarctic.

Wow.

She got in her costume and then she went out and viscerally made this dance,

Like spontaneously felt what was happening and just created this whole dance performance on the spot.

And the way she's waving it around,

It's so graphic and I mean,

It's very moving.

It'll make you,

It is something I'll share in the notes too on this one.

Yeah,

I love dance.

I was definitely a dancer in a past life.

I actually remember it.

So I was a ballet dancer in the 20s in Chicago.

Oh my gosh.

You know,

You could pick up on the place too.

Yeah.

Oh my God,

You were so young.

Yeah,

I remember being on stage and,

You know,

There's old time cameras with the flash and the smoke,

You know,

That happened.

Yes.

Yeah,

I remember all of that and just what it felt like to dance on stage.

And yeah,

That whole life is pretty nice.

Pretty nostalgic life.

And I have a thing for the 20s now,

You know,

Because of that,

The aesthetics and the,

You know,

Art Deco and all that.

But yeah,

So I'm really into dance.

I love dance,

All kinds of dance.

Again,

Based in the body,

Right?

So that's,

You know,

The feminine energy.

Yeah.

It's another way to get in touch with the feminine energy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And just ask,

Just ask.

I remember there was a day I was in,

I was in Vienna and I asked Mother Mary to be with me that day and show me that she was.

And,

You know,

I opened up a book and she showed me a picture that I had been looking at ever for about a year probably before then.

Like this one picture,

It was a Goya painting.

And I'm like,

Really?

Okay.

Well,

The best one that impressed me the most for you was when you,

You saw that truck filled with flowers and you were so curious to figure out like you just had to follow that truck and you followed it.

And it had this giant version of Guadalupe on the back with all these flowers that blew my mind.

I blew.

Yeah,

That's,

That totally sticks out for just more of the backstory for everyone.

I had in my head just said,

I wonder if I should go buy some flowers.

I was actually going to an artist open studio event and I was like,

I don't know,

Should I go buy some flowers?

And I was just second guessing myself on whether or not I should do that.

And here this truck turns to go up behind me,

Like in the opposite direction.

And I see that it's got some flowers on it.

I'm like,

Well,

I need some flowers.

There's flowers in front of me.

I guess I'm going to follow this truck.

And so I,

I flipped a Yui.

I turned around and I followed it just up the hill.

And the whole flatbed was full of flowers.

And there was mother Guadalupe.

I mean,

It was like,

Hallelujah moment.

Yeah.

It was the ones that give you the chills head to toe and you just know you're alive.

Then you just,

You,

Because you just have that knowing feeling and then you get the obvious sign like that.

That was,

That was a good day.

That's how you know.

And yeah,

You just,

All you got to do is ask.

All you got to do is ask every time I ask,

You know,

Sometimes it may take a couple of days or whatever.

But,

Um,

You know,

It'll show up for you.

So absolutely ask,

Ask for that support and to know that the support is there because it's one thing,

You know,

We,

We want to know that the divine feminine is actually with us.

And you got to ask,

You know,

We,

They can't just kind of come in and start,

You know,

Messing with your life uninvited.

So you got to invite them in.

Invite them in.

I can't,

I mean,

I love today.

Thank you so much for having your welcome light in my fire today.

This is just makes me so happy.

Okay,

Cool.

Let's do it again and think about something else to talk about.

Okay.

Deal.

It is.

Okay.

Thanks everyone.

Talk to you soon.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

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