Astrology And Ancestral Healing

Marlee is joined by Mahlet Yared, who is an Astrologer, Writer, Coach, and Podcaster, for a conversation about using astrology as a tool to help us understand and heal our generational trauma in order to unlock ancestral wisdom and abundance! Mahlet also shares about some of the recent major astrological transits that will have big effects on the collective for years to come such as Pluto in Aquarius and what it means to be in the Age of Aquarius!

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Welcome to the Shifting with Marlee podcast.

I'm Marlee.

Thank you for joining me wherever you are.

All that I ask of you,

The listener,

Is to have an open mind and an open heart.

And in return,

I offer you myself.

Today,

I am so excited because we are finally going to talk about astrology.

I don't know why it took so long to talk about astrology on this podcast when it's something I've been in love with for years,

But here we are.

And today we are finally diving in.

And I'm even more excited to share that we're going to talk about the fusion of astrology,

Ancestral healing,

And indigenous wisdom.

We're also going to shine a light on generational trauma and the impact that has on us and how that shapes our lives and the abundance available to us on the other side of healing that trauma.

And we are of course going to explore astrology as a tool to understand ourselves on a deeper level and a tool to help us heal.

Because as Mary Shields puts it so beautifully,

What you heal within yourself,

You heal for your whole family line.

Here to guide us on this journey today is Mahalet Irain,

Also known as Mahi.

Mahi is an astrologer,

Writer,

And host of the Gersha Guide podcast.

Welcome Mahi.

I'm so excited to be here.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you so much for being here today.

I've been inspired by your work for a while,

So I'm so excited to connect with you today.

Me too.

Yes.

Let's talk all things astrology and healing.

I love that quote you introduced it.

That's beautiful.

Yes.

And before we dive in,

Can you please let people know where they can find you?

Sure.

So I mostly hang out on Instagram and TikTok at just one Gersha.

Just one Gersha.

Com has my free resources and offerings as well for you to explore.

You can listen to my podcast wherever you like to listen to podcasts.

And yeah,

Come hang out.

Awesome.

So to start off today,

Mahi,

Can you please share with us your journey to where you are today?

Yes.

So from a very young age,

I had a strong interest in astrology.

I actually didn't know how young until I looked back at my childhood journals.

I've always been a journalist.

I have been a journalist since I was a toddler.

I have so many of my feelings over all the years chronicled in journals.

And as young as eight years old,

I was writing about feeling very connected to my son's side.

And then in middle school was using astrology to navigate flirting with boys and friendships.

Oh my God.

I know.

So this tool really spoke to me.

I first looked at my full life and I was like,

Oh,

I'm so excited.

And then after I graduated college,

So it took me a time,

Like quite a bit of time to see what all of my placements,

All of the asteroids looked like.

And it seemed really cool.

But the language of all that information was so overwhelming.

And then I go into law school and I am very much cut off from this creative,

Spiritual side of myself.

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I say that,

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Sharing those creative sides of myself that I'd kind of blocked off the last three years,

Behind the scenes,

I was like,

Taking astrology courses,

I was starting to get readings,

I was figuring out how this analytical writer side of me could bring these skills to this space.

Turns out there's a lot of attorneys turned astrologers.

And the study of looking at the patterns of the stars really mirrors the pattern of analyzing case law.

In the legal field,

You're looking at cases to figure out what a client should do.

You're trying to,

For me,

I was really drawn to like corporate law and securities regulation.

So I would dive into these deep codes to figure out how to tell an investor to like classify a stock or like issue things to shareholders.

And astrology was like that same skill set,

But a new language.

And that's where I started my journey.

And once I had a few years of real deep study and spending time to learn it on my own,

I started offering readings at the very end of 2021.

And that's really when my business took off is because I finally brought my full spiritual,

Analytical,

Nerdy self to the forefront.

Wow.

Thank you so much for sharing that.

I have like the biggest smile on my face from that story.

I'm really inspired by your transition from lawyer to astrologer.

I love that so much.

And I'm really inspired by your kind of evolution of your relationship with astrology.

And I know for me,

I first fell in love with the moon and the moon cycles and working with the full moon and the new moon each month.

And then I had my first birth chart reading in 2019.

And that kicked off my exploration into sun,

Moon and rising signs for myself and my family and my friends,

You know,

For a few years,

Reading some books on that.

And it was so fun.

And astrology really helped me understand myself on a deeper level.

And I felt very seen with astrology.

Yes,

Yes,

We are always in relationship to nature.

And I think that,

You know,

Especially in the Western world,

There's so much of this focus on individualism.

And like the truth is,

Like,

We are actually like part of a fabric of humanity.

And I feel like astrology reminds us of that.

And that we are in relationship to everything around us to every being around us.

And it allows us to ground in that and have a lot of like empathy and grace.

Like I think some people get scared that astrology tries to box them in and stereotype them.

But the truth is,

A lot of times like you,

The biggest thing I hear after readings or coaching is like people feeling liberated and expansive and like,

Oh my gosh,

I'm not crazy.

Like this is actually a beautiful part of me.

And how can I like honor that?

I love that.

And astrology is a tool.

And like you said,

It's a mirror to help us understand ourselves and our world.

And I love the quote,

Because this reminds me of astrology,

As above,

So below.

Yes,

I actually say that in the beginning of every birth chart reading I do to indicate to people as like this map of the stars is,

You know,

Has a reflection on the world.

And you know,

The origins of astrology too is like in Ethiopia,

What is now Ethiopia,

15,

000 years ago was when they started naming the stars.

So that's why some constellations are named after like Ethiopian kings and queens.

And the intention was actually for astronomy and astrology to always stay together.

So in my native language in Ethiopia,

Astrology is actually still considered a part of astronomy.

So the tools I look at in Ethiopian,

Like they're considered astronomy.

And it's because like the way it's thought of is like,

If you just look at your health and look at your organs,

But you don't understand the impact on it,

Like if you separate the biological from the wellness,

It doesn't make sense.

So that's how astronomy and astrology were meant to stay together is that you can't just look at the stars and the meteors and all of that.

You have to look at the impact on the world below.

Many of these zodiac signs were named because of patterns of animals moving along the Nile River,

There was an earthly reflection to the stars and constellations.

So it is a shame that when astrology and astronomy was taken,

Particularly from Egypt and from Babylon that in the Western world,

These ended up being separated,

But they're always meant to be looked at together.

I love that that fusion of science and spirituality.

Right,

Right.

Because it's together like science is only trying to prove things in spirituality.

So when they work together,

Like they're really,

They're really at their best.

And I mean,

I am an Ethiopian Orthodox Christian astrologer,

I believe in spirituality and religion and astrology,

Everything has a place together and it can all come together and inform our experience as humans.

Yeah,

And I want to touch on that because I'm actually now in my astrology journey,

Really into astrology for the collective,

Like on the ground,

How astrology is affecting us on the ground and how astrology helps us understand larger trends that we're seeing in society because I find it so fascinating.

So I want to talk about this for a bit.

Yes.

Can you please share with us a bit about some of the recent major astrological transits that have big impacts like Saturn entering Pisces and Pluto entering Aquarius and what energies these will energies these will bring to the collective?

Absolutely.

So for these planets,

Geographically,

These are outer planets and these planets indicate more collective shifts,

Whereas the planets that are much closer to the Earth reflect a lot more about our like personal characteristics and personality.

And so Saturn takes about 28 and a half years to make its way around the Sun.

And so depending on when you were born,

It'll take about 28 and a half years for Saturn to make it back to the sign that you were in.

And Saturn is the energy of discipline,

Responsibility,

Commitment.

It wants you to work for it.

I like to think of Saturn as like the Mr.

Miyagi in the Karate Kid journey.

Saturn isn't trying to punish you,

But Saturn is going to make you wax on and wax off so you can kill it when you're at a match.

And that's what the Saturn return is.

It's the first time that a soul has enough life experience to look at the themes of discipline,

Commitment,

Responsibility,

The relationship with the father or paternal energy in their life and see like,

Huh,

Are these systems,

Are these working for me?

Are these not working for me?

Should I be changing these?

And you have the option and free will to either escape from your Saturn return lessons and try and,

You know,

Fall back into like either like kind of being babied by your family and like really staying stuck in that role,

Or you have the opportunity to engage with them.

And when you engage with them,

You feel how challenging Saturn is.

It's not easy.

Even if you like don't really show up for it.

I've read the charts of people who like really kind of,

I don't know,

In a way,

Didn't make the most of their Saturn return opportunity.

It's still challenging.

It still brings up so much and it takes about three years to be in that transit.

So we are both of the Saturn Aquarius generation.

We just completed our Saturn returns about a month ago and are very much still integrating those lessons and wisdom.

But Saturn entered Pisces on March 7th.

And so that ushered in this next generation.

So the people who have Saturn in Pisces are going to experience it the most personally,

But their personal journey is also reflected in the collective.

We all feel Saturn transits.

And so Saturn in Pisces is really bringing us up to how we engage with spirituality,

How we engage with escapism,

Things like binge watching TV.

Saturn in Pisces is bringing a lot of people to be more interested in sobriety,

In mock tales,

Right?

Like I don't know,

I stopped drinking a few years ago and the mock tale game is getting so insane right now because people are being drawn to it.

People are also being drawn to practices like fasting.

Like I've seen on TikTok,

There's so many non-Muslim people fasting,

Non-Orthodox Christian people fasting just to challenge themselves spiritually.

So Pisces brings this kind of either commitment to spirituality or another way you can engage with Saturn in Pisces is like running away from things,

Falling into daydreams,

Falling into disengaging from the world,

Disengaging from yourself and abandoning yourself.

So we always have free will with these collective transits,

But we will notice themes.

I think Saturn in Pisces also brings an energy of like,

Who do we look to for guidance?

So like in some spaces that this can be a rise of things like fundamentalism and religion,

But it can also really bring a kind of unity between people of different spiritual practices,

Of people recognizing and valuing each other's approaches and not feeling like it's my way or the highway.

So that's a really beautiful energy,

But Pluto is real intense.

Pluto is,

Brings a whole different energy.

Pluto takes 248 years to make its way around the sun.

It's a very small but mighty planet energetically,

And it's the planet of transformation,

Rebirth in a way that's really uncomfortable.

I say like Pluto is the energy that like goes into your closet and pulls out the really deep skeletons that aren't just your skeletons,

But are the skeletons of many generations before you,

You know,

Like,

And our DNA carries information of like 14 generations before us.

So the way that Pluto interacts with us and the things it brings up are far beyond us.

Obviously people don't experience Pluto transits,

Countries and institutions do,

But every time Pluto moves into a new sign,

We're all impacted.

Entire countries are impacted together.

So Pluto just moved into Aquarius,

Like Saturn and Pluto literally were moving in the same week.

It was so intense.

It doesn't always like line up in that way,

But Pluto had been in Capricorn since 2008,

And that was the Pluto return of the United States actually as a country.

And so it really brought out the skeletons of the United States.

I mean,

Think of what's happened from 2008 until now,

The economic crises,

The US electing its first black president,

The backlash that had the US,

You know,

Electing somebody who hadn't held any form of public office prior to being the president,

Like these very transformational things and experiences that we had.

And then with the pandemic,

Seeing the healthcare crisis,

Environmental crisis,

All of these things really showed the United States where the skeletons in the closet were and gave us an opportunity to look at it and say,

Okay,

Is this how we want to move forward?

And how are we going to react when these skeletons come up as well?

Pluto moving into Aquarius,

I've been calling it this energy of decolonizing and like rise of the matriarchy.

Because what Aquarius does is it's a humanitarian energy.

It's going to reset the power and balance back into the hands of people it was taken away from.

And I'm a history nerd.

I mean,

This is what happens when somebody who studied law and political science like goes into astrology.

But I was looking at the history of like many countries and what was happening the last time Pluto was in Aquarius in 1778.

And you know,

What was happening is people romanticize it like the American Revolution,

The French Revolution,

Well,

1778 is also when the gun laws that are now affecting our children were set into place.

That is when the United States,

There was a lot more aggressive taking of native and indigenous land.

That's when we saw this exploitation of free labor of enslaving people from Africa continue to expand that impacted South America that impacted the Caribbean.

There was the first attempts of trying to stop that in the United States,

But ultimately the desire to have free labor outweighed everything else.

And at this point,

We have more free labor in the United States than we have ever had and around the world.

And so we need to think about like how incarcerated people are helping increase margins for corporations like McDonald's having the people who are incarcerated make their uniforms and how that allows us to have a dollar chicken sandwich,

How all of these things are connected.

And when Pluto comes around,

It reveals these things in an incredibly chaotic way.

Pluto is not gentle.

It doesn't care about norms.

It doesn't care about feelings.

It's going to reveal to us what has happened and how people have been treated.

I also say the era of the matriarchy,

Because since 1778,

We have happened to have a lot more systems that really valued patriarchy,

Which was not always the case.

And it's not always the case in many countries around the world.

So when something is tilted too much one way,

Nature tries to correct it.

Environmentally as well,

The environmental crisis is like,

At the end of the day,

Nature is always going to win.

Nature wipes out the dinosaurs.

If there is anything that will thrive and survive,

It is Mother Earth.

And so in many ways,

The Earth is very strongly reacting back to the way that we have treated it.

And as a result,

We have an opportunity to either continue those practices or to decide that we want to create a different world.

I was just looking at the numbers.

Speaking of matriarchy,

I was just looking at the numbers of the NCAA Women's Championship viewership,

Which the last three games of the NCAA Women's March Madness had more viewership than any NBA game of the season,

Including the finals.

And so the women's had more viewership than any of the men's NCAA championship.

The lowest price ticket to the final four games was over $200 more than the men's NCAA championship.

And that is just a taste of how society,

Nature is really craving to see power and recognition in the hands of women.

Wow.

That's a lot.

I love you.

Can I say that?

I love you.

I love to go deep like this.

Thank you so much for just like the questions and opportunity to go there because I love it.

Oh man,

I am speechless and blown away right now.

Yeah.

Wow.

This also all makes me very excited.

And I will say I feel we are in for some major societal changes.

Yes.

We can feel it.

I think that's what's so scary.

If you have seen the kind of fearful actions by people in the hands of power,

My fiance's very into and has been since we were in college into cryptocurrency and the way that these institutions are reacting to people having financial freedom and access to decentralized forms of keeping their money is scrambling.

There is this desperate energy in institutions to try and hold on to this power because everyone can feel that there is such a shift here.

I've been talking about ancestral wisdom and astrology for a while on my Instagram,

But some of the posts I've recently had about ancestral lands and respecting native land have deeply triggered people.

And it's because like these themes and conversations stretch into our lineage.

It's so much is coming up within everyone and what we've embodied.

So it's a very exciting era,

But Pluto is not gentle.

But the fact that it's an Aquarius means that the way that things are chaotically shifting is in the hopes of bringing more equality amongst people.

And that's really beautiful.

Really beautiful.

And one other major transit that I want to ask you about,

Many say we have entered the age of Aquarius.

Can you please tell us a bit about what that means and what energies that brings?

Yes.

So the age of Aquarius,

These ages last thousands of years.

And so the impact that you see is super long-term.

The age of Pisces was really defined and that was the last one.

This is confusing because the ages don't move in the same sequence as signs do through the zodiacs.

And so we last had the age of Pisces,

Which was really catapulted by the legacy of Jesus and creating this expansion of those beliefs,

Which happened to take the form of Christianity.

Christianity,

Which led to things like colonization and capitalists.

All these things are very related to each other.

But the age of Aquarius invites more people who embody those Christ-like qualities.

And I feel like,

I don't know,

As a Christian,

I feel like the energy or legacy of Jesus Christ is misinterpreted.

He was an enemy of the state.

He was about the people.

The religious institutions didn't like him.

The government didn't like him.

Those people were not on his team.

And so the age of Aquarius invites in more forward-thinking,

Intuitive,

Radical people who have a greater vision for humanity and who are willing to be ostracized in order to promote those things to take place.

So where we had an era where we only look to one or a few prophets or leaders or people to embody that,

The age of Aquarius invites in that energy to come out of humanity more.

And so I love that we're having this Pluto in Aquarius.

I think that Pluto in Aquarius is really like a huge kickoff era to what the age of Aquarius is going to bring.

And speaking of these ages in Pluto transit,

I was recently taking a class from an astrologer speaking about all of our Pluto generation placements.

So generations,

Which,

You know,

Millennials,

Gen Z,

And all of this,

What actually unites us is that all those generations,

You share a Pluto placement because Pluto stays in a sign for almost 20 years.

And so each generation has a different Pluto sign.

And what she was talking about was there are astrologers who help people regress into past lives.

And what they have found is that each generation's Pluto placement,

Which for us is Pluto's in Scorpio,

That that actually reflects what we learned in our past lifetime and past ages.

So the millennial generation,

Scorpio and Pluto,

We're very aware of not wanting to give our power away.

We're very aware of power dynamics,

Who's controlling our time,

Who's controlling our job,

Who's controlling the school,

And like being aware of that.

And the reason we conflict so much with the boomer generation,

Because they have Pluto and Leo,

So they want to be in charge,

They want to have the power,

They want to be seen,

And they want us to follow that.

But we're not into that.

Like,

And we're a fellow fixed sign who's like,

I'm not here for that energy whatsoever.

And those energies that we bring in are from past lifetimes and past,

You know,

Ages that we have gotten to see on Earth,

And that our Scorpio and Pluto placement shows that the reason we're so aware of these power dynamics is because we've had past lives where we saw the fall of civilizations.

We know you can't trust the government,

Or the schools,

Or the institutions,

Like we know there is an impermanency and a fallibility to things.

That generation embodies that energy,

Bringing it here.

And so,

You know,

Connected to why we had our Saturn return in a pandemic and all these really transformative things,

It's actually that we bring this like past life wisdom of experiencing that.

So I love that there's like cycles within cycles within cycles within cycles that can explain so many parts of our chart and why our generation brings something really unique to the table.

Yes,

I love this.

I am here for these Aquarius energies,

Let me tell you.

My North Node is an Aquarius actually,

And it's really my dream to see humanity start to embody these higher level energies.

Yeah,

It's so beautiful.

And this is where astrology makes me really hopeful for humanity's future.

Yes,

Yes,

There is so much hope.

It's like nature is always bending in the arc of like what we're supposed to be experiencing and what is most equal and how we can all collectively thrive and survive together.

So I've been very excited for this Pluto and Aquarius energy.

It started off really hot and yeah,

Just seeing how people are coming together and asking for more and looking out for the rights of people who have been left by the wayside is,

Yeah,

It makes me very optimistic.

Very optimistic.

And Mahi,

I want to transition now.

I don't even know if it's a transition because it's all relevant,

Especially with Pluto and Aquarius.

It seems like a really potent time to talk about this,

But I want to talk about the ancestors.

I know this is one of your specialties and something you work with your clients on,

And it's such an important topic.

So can you please share with us your views on generational trauma and what it is and what are some of the most common ways it affects us and shows up?

Absolutely.

Well,

First I'll start just on a biological level.

I love that epigenetics has given us so much insight,

But our DNA carries the coding of 14 different generations.

And so as they continue to study DNA,

You can see how certain genes can be turned on and turned off.

So our genes are really malleable and they respond to our environments.

So I love to work on ancestral healing because I think that we're able to create so much more depth of shifts when we can kind of zoom out.

A lot of times when I work with clients,

When they think of generational trauma,

They're looking at parents and grandparents.

And it's like,

We got to go back a lot further.

Like Pluto just entered Aquarius.

I've been asking my coaching clients,

Like,

Where were your ancestors in 1778?

What were they doing?

Like,

What were their roles?

What were their relationships to what was one of them have been working on like hustle and burnout and like giving too much energy to a job and not creating opening and flow to receive income and abundance in other ways that they really other things they enjoy doing.

And it's like,

Well,

What were your ancestors doing in 1778?

Oh,

They were expected to provide free labor in this way.

They were not given the space to have creativity or agency over their body.

Like that impacts the relationship you have to your work.

And it comes up as we experience these cycles coming back.

And not only does it provide,

I think,

Deeper insight,

It allows us to create the kind of healing that permeates like so much further than us.

I know in my own journey as well,

When I'm able to connect with the experiences of my ancestors,

When I'm actually able to just connect to them and gain wisdom from them,

I can create the kind of shifts in my personal growth that benefit my uncles,

My aunts,

My brother,

My parents.

Like I see these small changes in everyone around me because we're all connected.

And I think that even like personal development and personal growth are pretty limiting words for what those things are because the healing we get to create actually impacts so many more people.

And the healing that we create within us can impact our descendants.

We choose to have children.

Everybody you touch and you impact gets to be free of a certain level of limiting beliefs and patterns.

Of course,

There's always levels to healing.

It's never done.

There's always more to explore.

But giving it that perspective is in our cosmic blueprint,

Is in our birth chart.

We can see how generational experiences and trauma literally impact our daily decisions,

Especially our career success.

A lot of generational traumas in the fourth house,

The house of home,

Cultural roots,

And the homeland.

And it's directly across from the 10th house of career and soul legacy.

So like a lot of times creating the career legacy and opportunities we want is directly related to the patterns that we're picking up from our home.

Wow.

That's big.

Yeah.

So people are often confused in coaching spaces.

I recently did a class like just on the fourth and 10th house.

They're like,

Well,

Why are we looking at like my home environment and my work from home desk and like how I interact with my roommate?

Like what does that have to do with this?

But often those little shifts create massive shifts on the career level.

It's like you have to start from home,

Especially for people with uteruses.

The fourth house is like the home of the uterus as well.

And so creative energy and life force comes from that space.

And without healing and being in synergy with that part of your body,

You can't be in connection with the 10th house legacy you create.

It's kind of like the roots to your tree.

Right.

And it's like you have to work on the roots and like making sure you deal with anything.

If something is poisonous at the root of a tree,

You better believe that fruit is not going to be healthy.

So the fruit is your 10th house,

You know,

Gifts that you're trying to offer to people and be compensated for.

And you got to look at those roots and the fourth house stuff.

I love the way that you explain that.

Thank you so much.

And I just want to point out generational trauma from what you're saying has such a huge impact,

Impacts our choices,

Impacts our career choices.

And there's a popular quote by Steffi Wagner that I want to bring up because I think it's really applicable.

Pain travels through families until someone is ready to feel it.

Yes.

Yes.

A thousand percent.

That's that's absolutely what it feels like.

And I think that it's so brave of anybody who is willing to face those generational traumas,

Even just facing it.

I feel like there's so much pressure to figure out how to fix it,

You know,

But even just facing it,

Even just acknowledging those patterns,

Naming the emotions,

Using your emotions as wisdom is is so beautiful and so powerful.

So affirming all of the people who are on that path and journey is like the fact that you are willing to look at it is already healing your lineage.

Absolutely.

And Mahi,

In your own life,

How has generational trauma impacted you and how did you then use astrology to find that ancestral healing and build the life and career of your dreams?

Yes.

So I have a Virgo Venus in the eighth house.

Eighth house is the house of death and rebirth and receiving resources from others and spousal resources.

So Virgo Venus has reputation for being like very picky in their love life,

But also gives us this great attention to detail.

Lots of writers have Virgo Venus placements.

And when I was a lot younger,

I had no interest in getting married.

And that just was not a desire I had when I was younger.

My parents had a beautiful relationship,

Still have a beautiful relationship.

And I was like,

Love that for them,

Not for me,

Had no interest in having children.

I really wanted to maintain a sense of freedom.

And it was,

I met my partner,

We were young,

We were kids,

We were 18 years old in the dorms.

And the experience of being in relationship with him,

And then later on in my 20s,

Starting to desire that,

I was like,

What?

It was very kind of existential to consider,

Oh my gosh,

Do I really want this kind of path for myself?

But at the same time,

I really feel this connection with this person.

And one theme that always came up for me around marriage is that I wanted to feel free.

And marriage didn't feel like it had freedom,

That I didn't want to be in a cage.

When I was younger,

I didn't even like defining relationships.

I prefer to just be a little more loosey goosey in situationships because I wanted to feel free.

I didn't want to feel like somebody could own me or call me theirs.

As I worked with my birth chart,

I identified that the generational trauma of that was that my grandmothers were both child brides.

They were married off at 13,

14 years old.

And the life path that they had,

One of my grandmothers actually ran away from her first two marriages before she found the man that she actually loved to actually start a family with.

And so the experience I was having around marriage was carrying the generational trauma of my grandmothers being child brides.

And it was when I was able to come face to face with that and have compassion for that and heal that and also say,

How lucky am I to just choose to be with a person and to,

From an authentic place,

Desire this experience and not having this fairy tale of what it is,

But experiencing a partnership that allows freedom,

That allows me to feel like more of myself and not less of myself.

So by engaging with that,

I was able to,

In my long-term relationship,

Really decide,

Envision,

And have conversations around wanting to be married,

Which was something I never thought that I would do.

So that was major for me.

And yeah,

It's interesting through the wedding planning process.

I think a lot of people assume heterosexual young woman,

Always dreams of marriage and dreams of these things.

And yeah,

That hadn't been my experience.

My parents didn't even have a wedding with a white dress or anything.

So many things I'm getting to do for the first time,

And I'm honoring the choice and the ability to take this path and feel more free in the process and kind of having grace for that fear wasn't mine.

That fear is no longer here.

I am free.

I can continue to be more free and I don't have to repeat those patterns.

It's really beautiful.

Thank you for sharing.

I really resonate with that.

And how do you think generational trauma impacted your career choices?

Oh my gosh.

That was huge.

There was a lot of desire to guarantee that I had a lot of safety from politics,

Government,

And laws.

Growing up,

So both of my grandfathers were in the military and as regimes and like had prestigious careers,

But as regimes shifted in Ethiopia,

There was a lot of violence against people who were in leadership of the regimes below.

So I mean,

Everything from like their stories,

I mean,

One of them was like in prison my whole life,

Even though he was secretary of finance just before that,

Because the regime shifted.

And the other one,

He was personally okay,

But all of the men who he worked with were executed.

My parents came as political refugees.

There was all of this uncertainty around laws and government and how politics could change your life.

My father's activism had him exiled from his home country again,

As I was older in law school,

He wasn't able to go back for some years because of his activism.

So I always felt from my home experiences that government,

Politics,

Law can change your life in a heartbeat.

And my first career choice was to be safe from those things.

So for undergrad,

I studied political science and got a human rights minor.

And then I went to law school.

While I was in law school,

I interned,

I was going to law school in DC.

I interned at all these like federal government internships and like working in their legal departments.

I wanted to know the ins and outs.

One of the internships I did at state department,

I had to get like this massive security clearance for all of these things.

Like I wanted to see the core of how the government worked.

And I think that once I had graduated law school,

I suddenly felt safe enough to actually think about my career in a way that like,

What do I want?

Whereas like leading up to that,

I was like,

How do I get safe?

How do I keep myself safe?

How do I make sure I'm never in a position?

And it's like,

Once I secured that,

It was like,

All right,

Now I don't want to practice anymore.

So it absolutely impacted my career.

I always say to people to have grace too for your first career choice,

Because often we are responding to generational trauma and often we are trying to create safety for ourselves or protect things that we wish somebody protected in our lives as a little kid.

And it's only when we've kind of been able to achieve that,

That we can choose something else.

Thank you for sharing that.

I love that.

And as we grow and evolve and heal this generational trauma,

Our careers can evolve too,

Right?

It's okay to change.

So Mahi,

How can astrology help us with healing this generational trauma and diving further into ancestral healing?

Yes.

Oh my gosh.

Well,

There's so many beautiful placements in the birth chart.

There's one in particular I do want to shout out,

Which is the Chiron placement.

A lot of people don't share or talk about,

Like sometimes you might have a reading and not even dive into Chiron,

But it's an asteroid in our birth chart.

And it's called the wounded healer amongst astrologers because it's where experiences that were traumatic to you get to become the way that you heal the world and get to be something that you can offer as medicine.

So for example,

I keep thinking of Burna Boy,

Who's a Nigerian singer,

Rapper,

Afro beats king.

I was looking at his birth chart and noticed his Chiron placement is related to the way that he communicates.

And where his Chiron placement showed me was that when he was really young,

It was very difficult for him to communicate.

So whether he was slow to speak or had like a stammer or couldn't speak a certain language that he was going to school in for a long time,

There was something that made it challenging for him to learn how to speak.

And it's very interesting how it relates to his current career success because he's the kind of artist who makes music where he speaks to these like really traumatic experiences very openly.

I mean,

One of his like hit songs that was a global hit is literally about his last heartbreak.

Him pouring his heart out and people are like at the club all over the world,

Like celebrating this song.

He's going on tour and charting Spotify.

And it's like him having a difficulty in being able to speak and express himself now gets to be the way that he processes his emotions with like a greater audience.

And so our Chiron placements get to be our medicine.

I have Chiron in my seventh house in Leo.

So like,

Again,

A reflection of me experiencing a desire to not really want to be in like these committed partnerships,

Like being hesitant around committed relationships and things like that,

And not feeling like I could be fully free.

Chiron is really interesting because the trauma is always unique to the person.

As an astrologer,

Like I always give many examples of how it can play out,

But like,

It's something that's traumatic to you.

It might not be traumatic to other people.

It's incredibly personal.

And then that gets to be the healer because like for me,

Where it was very difficult to create those forms of intimacy,

Like I thrive so much in one-on-one work and one-on-one collaborations,

Like things like this and like one-on-one coaching,

Because I know and have experience knowing what it feels like to be super trapped or not seen.

And that gets to be the medicine that I offer to people is to hold that space and allow people to fully be themselves and see how that gets to enhance other parts of your birth chart as well.

So Chiron's a really powerful way to start to look at it,

But it can play out in so many ways.

I was talking about the Pluto and Scorpio generation when I do readings for Scorpio rising,

So at Pluto and Scorpio,

Like Pluto in the first house,

That is like a really intense experience of not feeling empowered,

Sometimes experiences of like growing up in an environment with verbal abuse,

Emotional abuse,

Or just kind of like manipulation,

These energies.

And a lot of times those people find freedom in learning how to express themselves,

Learning how to have a empowering and not toxic relationship with their own bodies and things like through that placement.

That's a placement that I've been getting a lot of people in recently.

And that transformation is very potent.

So things like Pluto,

Chiron,

Eighth house,

Twelfth house,

Fourth house,

There's so many parts of the birth chart that can show you how experiences that were traumatic are really part of your gift.

Astrology is such a potent tool,

Blows my mind.

It is,

It is.

And it only gets more and more rich.

I feel like I can never get bored of exploring birth charts.

And this is where working with an astrologer can be really helpful to really dive into all of these placements and how it all connects.

Yeah,

Because these things are in conversation with each other.

We can learn quite a bit by looking at individual placements.

That's how my journey started.

That's how most people's journey starts,

But they are all in conversation with each other.

So I think that's the benefit of having working with an astrologer is that the way your placements specifically create that beautiful mix are just,

They're going to look a little different than someone else.

And Mahi,

I think one of the reasons that ancestral healing is so important is not only to heal your lineage and heal yourself,

But also to tap into the knowledge,

Wisdom,

And abundance available to us from our ancestors.

They didn't only give us trauma,

Right?

There's also abundance and knowledge and wisdom there.

Yes.

There's also ancestral wealth and things that you get to benefit from,

Those natural skills that you don't know where they came from,

That you're just like,

I don't know how I know how to do this.

I just know it.

I don't know why I'm connected to this thing.

I just am connected to it.

You are gifted so many things in your lineage as well.

And I think it's when we can create a space to acknowledge that those traumas and healing,

That those gifts get to be enhanced as well.

And how can we connect with that ancestral wealth and abundance?

It starts with the trauma.

It starts with the trauma and the healing.

No,

I think that one big step that we can all take in embracing our ancestral gifts is actually in the way that you communicate with yourself and your intuition,

Allowing yourself to listen to yourself and take that seriously and at face value and not putting it into forcing yourself to be logical.

There's so much wisdom in the intuition and that's where your soul is speaking.

And that's how a lot of times your ancestors and their wisdom comes through when you create that spaciousness to listen.

So activities like meditating,

Whatever that means to you,

It can be with music and a car singing along to it or having some quiet space,

Journaling.

I also say for cleansing tools in the house and how you cleanse your energy and spiritual space,

I think it's very powerful to use ancestral tools.

Ideally,

You should actually use tools that are free,

Free available to you.

So in my practice,

That's frankincense.

That's a common tool in the Orthodox Church.

I've actually never bought frankincense and always just have to have it gifted by family.

For some people,

That might be in your ancestral lineage.

It could be bay leaves.

It could be water.

It could be so many different tools.

Something related to water is like for some people,

It's taking like a foot bath,

Doing a little foot bath cleanses your aura.

So I think the best tools are ones that your ancestors have used if you're able to locate them.

If not,

Your cultural lineage,

Your homeland,

Your cultural roots,

Whatever was naturally available in that space,

Even if it's plans,

Thinking about how you can grow them and make it so it's accessible is a really powerful way to connect with their energies.

Thank you.

That's all really helpful.

And this makes me so excited.

I want everyone to be able to access this.

Yes,

It should be accessible.

And this wisdom from our ancestors is part of the abundance,

Right?

Absolutely.

The wisdom is like the keys to the abundance.

It unlocks it for you when you have that connection,

When you have that space.

It's like they open up possibilities that you didn't even know were there.

And I feel like,

Tell me if you agree,

Collectively,

We're in a time of remembering.

Absolutely.

I think Pluto and Capricorn did that a lot by,

You know,

Capricorn's about institutions and governments and things.

So Pluto kind of like wrestled up the institutions,

But Aquarius energy is really about connecting to those deeper,

Truer parts of ourselves and the collective.

And this is absolutely the era of remembering.

And we all have the opportunity to do things that our ancestors have never done,

To build bridges with each other in a way that they weren't able to.

And I'm always excited by the thought that more and more people are doing this work and accessing these parts of themselves.

The era of remembering.

It is.

I love it.

Mahi,

What you're bringing to the world in this fusion that you work with of astrology,

Ancestral healing,

And indigenous wisdom and ancestral abundance,

It's so important.

Your perspective is so important.

So just thank you so much for sharing all this today.

I'm so grateful.

Oh,

You're so welcome.

This is such a pleasure.

I can seriously talk about this like all day long.

It's just such a passion of mine.

And I love helping people connect to more of themselves.

And I want to bring it really quick to a really tangible,

Actionable place for everyone listening.

So do you have any other tips or tools for healing that generational trauma and unlocking that ancestral healing that you can share with us today?

Yes.

I love tools.

That's definitely the lawyer mind in me.

I'm like,

Okay,

We see the things.

How do we create the solutions?

And so in addition to using ancestral cleansing tools,

I also think there's a lot of power in simply acknowledging your ancestors.

If you are able to find their names,

Like finding their names,

If not connecting to the energy of maybe you know the cities they're from,

Or maybe you know the area they used to have a farm on,

And connecting to the energy of them.

A lot of times,

And I've seen this in my work,

Like in readings,

When I have other people's ancestors visit me,

It's because they want their loved ones to connect with them.

And they're just not.

That's the only reason they come to another spiritual channel,

Is like,

They just are looking for a way to connect.

And so if somebody who has a birth chart reading with me,

If I'm the closest channel to connect,

Then they're going to come that way.

But the moment that I acknowledge with that person that that's what they're trying to do,

Then that energy goes to that person.

The ancestor has a channel,

An opportunity.

So making sure that you are opening your channel and creating a comfortable place,

Looking at pictures of your ancestors,

If you know like what kind of plants they like to have,

Things like that can really connect you like so powerfully.

And so holding space for ancestral wisdom to come through can help guide you.

Because it's not easy facing generational trauma without their assistance,

Without that divine support.

It's really challenging.

I a thousand percent acknowledge that.

But when you invite them in,

It gets to be like you have a team,

Your ancestors,

Maybe your angels or other deities or God,

Everyone gets to come and help you with this process.

And it's a lot easier to do things with a team and by yourself.

So hold space for your team,

Invite them to come in and be a welcoming energy and space.

Amazing.

Thank you so much.

I can't wait to dive into those myself,

All those practices.

So Mahi,

I want to bring it now to a higher level perspective because I love talking about this.

What do you think society would look like if more people healed their generational trauma and connected with their ancestral abundance and embraced their indigenous wisdom?

That's a great question.

I think we would have a much more cooperative relationship with nature.

I feel like we'd be in a lot more synergy with nature.

I also think that people would feel a lot less lonely.

I feel like we would know our need for community and building,

You know,

Villages amongst each other.

I also think that people would feel a lot less exhausted and tied to roles and tied to performing in a specific way.

And all that to say,

I think we're moving towards that.

I think that we are reclaiming these things and recognizing that our health is tied to the collective health and the health of the earth.

And we all need to cooperate and healing that.

I love that answer.

Thank you so much.

And I think there would be a huge restructuring of so many different systems as well.

And I think we would see a lot more passionate people.

And I think we'd unlock a whole new level of creativity as well.

And like you mentioned,

I think we'd just be so much more connected to the land.

And it makes me emotional to think about.

Yeah,

It's a beautiful future that lies ahead.

Absolutely.

And Mahi,

I just want to thank you so much for being here today.

Honestly,

This conversation really lit me up.

And I'm just beyond grateful.

And thank you for sharing your wisdom.

Oh,

Thank you so much for having me.

I'm so grateful for this space.

And the way that your questions allowed me to go super deep and nerd out was so lovely.

So thank you so much.

And thank you to everyone listening for being a part of this conversation.

I have one final important question for you.

What is your vision for the future of humanity and the earth?

I envision for people to feel more lit up by their magic,

Just more in love with who they are,

And the gifts they have,

And the traumas they have,

All of it together.

I want people to recognize that there is magic in each and every single one of us.

And the reason this healing,

This work,

And everything is important is just to remind us to come back to that.

I hope from today's conversation,

You feel your connection to the stars and the wider universe beyond time and space.

And I hope you can feel the love beaming out to you from your ancestors.

Dedicating yourself to this healing journey is not easy,

But your ancestors are cheering you on and are so proud of you for doing the work.

I promise you that.

As Bert Hellinger says,

You are the dream of all your ancestors.

I'll end today with a quote from Mahi,

Your deepest healing starts at home.

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