Raylene Abbott - Rose Oracle Podcast

Rose Oracle Podcasts will bring education to cultivate catalytic inspiration, that will propel motivation from within. Rather than being pushed from the outside, I intend to bring transmissions of transformations that will move people beyond intellectual stimulation and will shift ones consciousness from the inside out.

Transcript

Hi,

My name is Angela Jean Rose Hart and I'm the founder of Rose Alchemy Healing.

I'll be starting Rose Oracle Podcast which will bring education to cultivate catalytic inspiration that will propel and motivate from within.

Rather than being pushed from the outside,

I intend to bring transmissions of transformation that will move people beyond intellectual stimulation and will shift one's consciousness from the inside out.

I hope you will join me and my wonderful inspirational guests beginning in September.

Hey there,

This is Angela Jean Rose Hart with Rose Oracle Podcast and I'm so excited that today,

September 11th at 11 o'clock,

I will be interviewing my first guest,

Raylene Ann Abbott.

Raylene's spiritual training has spanned over the last 45 years and she received initiations by both Western and Eastern traditional teachers.

She has worked with the Native American teachers for 12 years which gave her a deep connection with Mother Nature.

Her training also includes over 20 years of working with mantra meditation from many different traditions around the world.

She began to study the history of the goddess and the Black Madonna in 1992 which opened her path to living in France for four and a half years where she was published.

Her passion led her to traveling the pilgrimage route of the Black Madonna and Magdalene.

Raylene is a mystical writer but her love of research and history offers a historical foundation to her writings.

She writes about sacred flora,

Herbs,

And healing the separation of spirituality from nature and sexuality.

The year 2014,

Raylene was presented her ancestral genealogy of her father's lineage which goes back to the fourth century lineage of the kings of France.

She discovered that her bloodline can be traced back to the Maruvian kings of France.

They call this lineage the Rose Line.

Her newly found realization was that she had pilgrimage,

Made offerings,

And written about her own ancestors.

When she was traveling in Europe,

She had a gift of interpreting the heresy symbols found in the architecture of the church and also the Marcil Taro.

Raylene is an international author in spite that she had severe dyslexia.

Her book was published in France in 2006,

Les Emerages des Femmes Divine,

The Emergence of the Divine Woman.

This same book later was published in Italy,

Turkey,

Japan,

And the US as Between the Visions of the Sun.

Her recent books,

A Mystic's Journey to the Sacred Sites of France and The Hidden Magdalene in the Taro Marcil,

She is also an author of several different books.

She has been creating herbal remedies since 1970s,

Growing wild crafting,

Making cosmetics,

And crafting healing teas.

Her childhood devotion to Mother Mary and Lady Guadalupe has inspired both her art and healing.

Please help me welcome my guest,

Raylene Ann Abbott.

Thank you so much,

Raylene,

For being with me today.

I'm so grateful that on today of all days,

September 11th,

Here at 1103,

Interestingly enough.

You are my very first guest on Rose Oracle Podcast,

So welcome.

Thank you,

And thank you,

Angela.

So I just want to start by saying that the very first time I ever met you was,

It was a beautiful,

I believe it was a spring day in Ashland,

Oregon at the Goddess Temple of Ashland.

And I had not heard of you or met you previously,

I don't believe.

And you were going to be doing a ceremony there,

And out in front on the grass was a stunning flower mandala,

An elemental mandala.

And I remember you had said that there was people that had sent you flowers and seeds and pods from all over the world,

And it was the most amazing thing to witness.

And I wondered if you might just start a little bit with explaining what that,

The flower and elemental healing mandala is all about.

Yeah.

I actually started making those mandalas as offerings when I was in Paris.

And I'd be with a group,

And to center the group,

I would take petals of the flowers,

And this began with them bringing me roses.

And I'd take a couple of women,

And we would all make this mandala,

And as we did it,

We would pray and stay focused.

We didn't talk,

It was a real meditation.

And each mandala was completely different.

And then at the end,

I was teaching different types of mantra from different traditions,

And we would mantra over these mandalas for anywhere from two to three hours.

And at the end,

I would pass it out to everyone in the group,

And they would go to places in the streets of Paris,

Especially places where people had died,

Or there were places like the guillotine,

Places where women were burned in front of Saint-Germain-de-Pré,

Places where the Jews were killed by the Nazis.

And we would leave these flowers as an offering to what had happened there,

To change the recording.

That when there's a trauma,

When there's a tragedy,

The earth actually records it until somebody comes along that understands that and can start beginning to transform that through making offerings.

And the elements,

As far as the elementals are concerned,

The elements are fire,

Water,

Earth,

Air,

And essence,

As they would say in Western tradition,

Or space.

In the Eastern traditions,

They actually mirror everything that has happened and what we do,

Which are different than the angelic kingdom,

Which is just on this purity.

But the elements are here to mirror in our face how humanity thinks,

The emotions of humanity.

So each element mirrors a different emotion of humanity that we can learn from them.

But most people have forgotten.

So the eight water reflects the element of water.

And so our emotions reflect man's humanity's emotions reflecting the element of water.

So after centuries and centuries of thought forms on this planet,

You can see we're not doing too good of a job because humanity's emotions are polluted.

And the outer reflection of that is our water is polluted.

It goes with the element of thought,

Or the element of air in our thoughts and humanity's thoughts.

The element of fire is our creative spark.

And the element of space is you can see all these crowded conditions,

You know,

That we don't have space.

And that includes space for each other.

We don't know how to hold space.

We have to keep really,

Really busy.

And of course,

The element of earth,

The dense of all elements,

The material plane,

Which would include our physical bodies.

So the elemental nature and making offerings to the elements will mirror to you your own inner process of aligning and cleaning these things up in yourself.

Does that make sense?

Yes.

It's,

You know,

I have said and will say that the beauty and the loving energy that I experienced that day was just in stark contrast,

Of course,

To our world.

And I was so enmeshed in the frequency of that,

The idea of what you shared that day.

I don't know that you even know this.

I've done my best to share the Ave Maria de la Mer and prayer and speak your name in my ceremonies almost every single time.

Oh,

Thank you,

Too.

And I may not even be doing it absolutely correctly as you had done,

But I did my best and I just wanted to say thank you.

And witnessing that that day was really powerful and life changing for me,

As I'm sure it was for the many women that were there that day to witness that.

So all the,

Yeah,

Go ahead.

The pronunciation isn't the most important thing.

Okay.

It meaning it's the intention of your heart.

So there's an old yogic story.

I'm going to go to the east.

There's these two very humble yogis on an island and this really big teacher comes by and he rows his boat to the island and these yogis are saying a mantra and he says,

Oh,

No,

No,

No,

You're pronouncing it all wrong.

So he teaches the yogis,

The yogis are really,

Really humble and say,

Oh,

Thank you,

Thank you.

And so he gets in his boat and he rows away and all of a sudden he sees the yogis running across the water and he's astounded.

You know,

They're walking on water and the yogis are saying,

Oh,

We forgot the words of the mantra.

Tell us again.

So that's an old yogi story.

But you know,

The Ava Maria de la Mera,

Ava Maria de la Terre,

Ava Maria de Feu,

Ava Maria de la is a mantra received on the enunciation of August 5th of the Blessed Mother in Port Gremu,

Which is like a little venison in the south of France and Provence.

And I was sitting there and on the canals with a pocket of roses and that,

And my French is not very,

My pronunciation of French and even English isn't that great,

But I started putting roses out and making that offering.

And pretty soon these little dry roses that had been in my pocket.

And as I put them out,

All the roses opened on the canal and I ended up at the end of the day,

They do a blessing where they take the Madonna out of the church and they bless all the boats.

And at the end of the day,

I ended up right in the boat that was behind the Madonna as we went through and I watched them blessing the boats and they had the most beautiful young girl in the boat with the priest and they're blessing all the boats of the harbor with holy water.

So it was very special for me and that one I do every day since then.

Yeah,

I love it.

I definitely need to work on my pronunciation just as you said that.

But it's okay,

You don't,

Just to know it's the intention.

It's the intention.

And the only reason I say that it's really good with the lineage,

When you learn a prayer or a lineage is when you honor the lineage of where that comes from,

That energy goes right behind you.

So when you say,

You know,

An old Eastern prayer,

You know,

From the East or a mantra,

And what actually happens is everyone that said that mantra on the inner planes shows up and supports you.

That's beautiful.

So that's the honoring the lineage,

That's that part.

I just wanted to tell you that.

I literally had,

Well,

I had 18 women do it with me on a bell team two years ago.

And I've since had numerous women and a few men a few times,

But mostly women doing our best to hold these intentions.

And I always say your name and I just wanted to tell you that.

Thank you,

Angela.

I appreciate it.

And the reason,

You know,

Just to explain a little bit more,

Is when you say,

An awakened one,

An enlightened one,

And put it with the element that actually does something.

So an enlightened one,

And especially like,

You know,

The Divine Mother is so pure.

And so these are elemental Kingdom in down here on the earth is really,

Really polluted from our actions,

Our physical actions,

But also from our collective emotions,

Our collective thought forms,

You know,

Anger,

The separation from the atom,

All of these things,

The elements hold.

So when you say an offering,

With an awakened one,

The elements rush forward,

The earth,

The winds,

The water,

The air,

Rush forward,

And they can use that,

That those words to help heal them.

And the more and so it literally began and when it's done in a pure way,

Which without an intention,

You don't have any intention,

I'm not trying to make the wind come up,

I'm not trying to do anything,

This isn't for nothing other than just offering it and thanking the elemental Kingdom and releasing it,

Then it becomes pure food for them to counteract the collective mind.

And at the same time,

It mirrors inside yourself where you need to clean up your own act.

And that's the most important because it's an inner process actually,

It isn't,

We need to save the earth,

We need to realign and clean up our own act and in that process,

Literally,

As we all do it,

The earth will,

Everything will start self arising into a better world.

But this is a big job,

As you can see how many people we have.

It almost looks like an impossible job at this point,

But you still have to clean up your act,

That's the purpose of being here.

Well,

I'm super touched by,

Of course,

Your level of research,

But also your devotion.

And I'm gathering you've done these kinds of ceremonies all over the world.

So I'd love to hear,

You had had some women send you some things from Hawaii,

I know there was pods and seeds from all over the world,

I believe you said Israel.

Can you explain some of the places that you've done ceremonies around the world?

Yeah,

So a lot of my work,

And this is quiet work,

It's not,

You know,

Once in a while I'm asked to do it in a group,

And I will,

But it's my daily practice.

And what happens in that daily practice,

You learn from the elements themselves.

And people somehow find that out about me,

You know,

If I'm invited into a place or if I write a lot of things that come through,

You know,

I do write,

That's how people find out a lot of times about me.

So it just is a self arising event that a friend in Hawaii received an offering I made.

And the next thing I know,

You know,

She's passing me,

She told her,

You know,

One of the Hawaiian local,

You know,

Full blood Hawaiian,

And they brought in on they sent dirt,

They sent salt.

And it just,

It just happens.

I mean,

Somebody goes to Israel,

And they send me,

You know,

They sent me bags of,

Of stones or something from there,

I was presented when I was teaching in Japan,

I was presented salt from the Amata Ratsu shrine,

Which only can,

You can only walk into that shrine and Issei with the,

With the permission of the Emperor.

And she had the salt,

And she presented me the salt and gave me it.

So it just,

It just happens.

I'm not trying to make it happen.

It's just kind of in my flow.

And I think a lot of that happens because of what I'm doing.

And the end,

And there's,

I've traveled a lot too.

So there were places that I actually gathered myself.

And,

You know,

Before I was world traveling,

I'm a bit older now.

And so most of my offering work now is,

You know,

Located on the west coast of the United States.

But I've also done a lot through Miami.

And it's silent.

People don't know this,

You know,

It's just,

It's between me and the earth and,

And trying to keep my intentions pure.

So that's,

You know,

It's,

You know,

I'm not out there,

You know,

Going,

I'm doing this,

But,

You know,

I do write about it.

So that's mostly people.

And it's really about,

Not about me doing it,

It's about us doing it,

And more people in it.

And it doesn't have to be even in the tradition,

Every tradition has something like this,

Actually.

If you research,

And it's,

You find it more in the east than you do in the western tradition.

But it's there in the western tradition if you go to the deeper roots of the western tradition.

Well,

Your writings are stunning.

I've been on your website more recently.

And I'd love for you to tell what a novena is,

And then share about the purpose of them and the practice of what a novena is.

Okay.

Okay,

So I'm going to go back a little.

Okay,

My training,

I've had,

You know,

I,

I was raised Catholic,

So I had that training from a really young age.

And then at some point,

I walked out of that because it did not,

It didn't speak to me anymore.

I couldn't,

You know.

And what happened is I ended up going into Native Americans for 12 years and working with Native people through the sweat lodge,

Which gave me a really direct connection with the earth.

And then I,

From there,

I went back and,

You know,

There was a point that I learned as much as I could,

And I realized I had to take that understanding of earth awareness and go back into my Christian roots and find those lost pieces.

So right now I'm at this point of,

And that search started in 90,

It actually started in 88,

But it increased in 92 with,

You know,

The realization of the black Madonna and the Magdalene.

So that's kind of been the journey.

So novenas are a Catholic?

The novena is a Catholic practice.

So it's a nine-day practice that uses either angels or saints or aspects of the Madonna.

And they can be very,

Very simple to,

Being quite complexed.

And you do that practice for nine days,

And usually there's an intention.

And so that's what a novena is.

And it has a very,

Very long tradition into the Middle Ages.

That was very new to me,

Honestly,

But immediately in feeling the sensations and the frequency of it,

I am very,

Very drawn to bringing this into my life as a personal practice.

Yeah.

I'm,

You know,

I'm,

Yeah,

This part of the,

This part,

Well,

This is kind of under my hat,

But basically,

You know,

Part of what I've been doing is trying to find the truth and the roots in that masculine feminine in Christianity.

And looking at the doctrine a lot and cleaning that doctrine off from guilt and sin and things that actually inhibit us to having the divine experience.

And so I've been rewriting a novenas and with very old roots.

And some of these prayers I'm using actually come out of the Middle Ages.

But I have to really research them deeply,

Because I'm trying to find things that are still like Earth days,

They had prayers and blessings that bless the Earth,

To bless the crops to bless the food.

But I try to find things that,

You know,

Are not damnation,

Not guilt.

You know,

And so that's been my research.

I love that.

And so then you also make oils and flower essences,

Right?

I make what I've been,

I've,

I started out gathering herbs.

So this is kind of,

You know,

When I was about 18 years old,

And going,

You know,

So I,

I was in that whole movement of the herbal Renaissance of the early 70s.

And so that a lot of that is kind of like my roots.

And so right now what I am doing in very small ways is I'm making,

You know,

I've done a lot of flower essence,

All of those types of things over the years.

And right now,

What my passion's been is distilling from the plants and making hydrosols,

Which are actually more Earth friendly than essential oils,

Because essential oils take so much of a plant,

You can get the essential oil in the water.

And then I mix those with oils and creams and any different oils that have been soaked in herbs also.

And so I'm creating a lot of creams that way.

And it's been a really awakening process for me,

You know,

Because this distiller is almost like it's very symbolic,

Like finding the essence in the emotional body,

Because you're literally extracting the essence or the essential oil from the plant.

And it's in the water.

And so it's interesting because wherever the plant is,

Whatever the plant's reflecting in its signature,

I somehow go through the same emotional process as I'm doing it.

So all of it's kind of like my own inner journey of awakening.

It looks like my nana was very into silver.

We have a lot of those sort of dainty looking containers that I've seen the photos that you are making.

Can you explain what the tools are that you use?

Okay.

Okay.

Well,

It depends.

Okay.

I do a daily watering water offering in copper and copper.

I do.

I work with a lot with copper,

The metal copper,

My distiller is copper.

It's from Portugal.

My daily offering is in a copper bowl.

And it's copper is the metal of Venus.

But copper also is a great conductor of energy.

So when I make an offering in copper,

It conducts energy.

Maybe if I make a water offering on a full moon,

I'll use silver.

And the silver is more reflective.

It's connected to the element of water and also the moon.

And so that's more like a lunar offering.

So those are basically the two metals I'm working with.

And so I like making offerings in those type of containers.

But any kind of bowl that's special to you,

It really doesn't matter.

This is just my own personal esoteric case,

So to speak.

Well,

I know that must be in my field in some capacity.

And my nana had quite a lot of different silver.

I'm not so sure on copper,

But I've been using one of her bowls when I do my elemental prayers.

And when I saw the photos of what you're doing,

I was like,

Oh,

There's just something in me that's so drawn to learning what you're doing and also sharing that with other women.

Because there's such a stunning frequency and softness and loving,

Feminine energy to what you share.

And it really touches my heart.

And I'm so grateful that we're able to just kind of talk about this.

Because sometimes when we're touching into these kind of mystic things about us,

We don't understand.

But it's mysterious,

But it feels good.

But I think that's the beauty about doing a practice for a certain amount of time or for a long time over months.

Or like what happens is the mysteries unfold.

It doesn't happen by running through the surface.

It happens.

I've been doing water offerings since the year 2000.

And there's other offerings I've been doing.

It's like if you had to label me,

You'd call me a practitioner.

I find an offering and then I'll do it.

And the mysteries are in the offering.

And that's really the best place to find them.

But silver,

Like water,

Helps us look into the mirror of ourself.

Just like the mirror of our emotions.

And so that element,

Like the moon's doing the tides and everything that it does.

And if you're a woman,

It's pulling on your body.

The tides and the ebb and the flow in your body.

But it's in the stillness of the water and going deep in our emotional body that we can look at the mirror and reflect our actions,

Our programming,

Our patterns,

And heal.

So that's the power of silver.