Harmonize Your Mind And Heart

Creating a safe space, or a 'home' within our relationship with ourselves involves an intimate relationship with the mind and heart. The harmony between the two cultivate space that allows us to be our best selves! This is why it is important to make this relationship the number one priority!

Rosa shares her wisdom on the importance of harmonizing and aligning the mind and heart to find clarity, courage and direction with guest Phil Hong (Technical Producer of the Humble and Fred Radio).

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Hey everyone.

Welcome to the Rise with Rosa podcast.

Today I'm sitting here with Phil Hong,

The technical producer for Humble and Fred.

We're just having a conversation before we actually start recording the show and I was just talking to him about how I really want these podcasts to be about giving insight to everyone about different ways that we can rise,

Different ways that we can rise into our best selves and be who we really are so that we can maximize the quality of our life and live the life that we desire.

So welcome Phil by the way.

How's life going?

It's going well.

But I was talking to him about one of the topics I want to talk about,

There's so many ways for us to rise.

And the way that I want to talk about today was the thought about,

Something to think about is about protecting your home.

And I'm not talking about home like your physical home even though that's obviously definitely something that's important.

But what I mean by home is the place that we live in our internal world.

So that's our home.

So our internal world consists of the marriage between our minds and our hearts.

So we must not neglect either of them,

We just have to maximize their roles.

So I'm going to talk obviously further into this but the mind's role is to be the master,

The visionary and the one to finalize a choice.

And the heart's role is meant to be the silent leader or the master in which the mind surrenders to and listens.

So it's actually the true driver of our choices.

And the heart knows the truth and it's just really important that the heart is happy.

And it's funny because I compare it to a marriage and it's just these funny things that you hear outside all the time.

I know that there's a saying that says a happy wife is a happy life.

And so like symbolically I feel that it's almost like if we were to compare to a husband and wife,

A happy wife is a happy life if the wife represented the heart and the man represented the protector.

It's really about the harmony within the marriage is actually going to reflect itself on the harmony within the home.

And so there is a marriage within ourselves,

There's a part of us that we need to marry.

And that's about bringing harmony in the relationship between our minds and our hearts.

It's not to neglect one or the other but it's about using both of them.

Yeah,

That seems to be the thing in public,

Thinking with your mind,

Going with your mind instead of going with your heart for example or the other way around.

It was always a separate almost like a civil war between the two parts of your body.

But the thing is,

This is a refreshing take on it,

The idea of having both in symphony,

Both in harmony.

That's something completely different.

Yes.

And the reason why we have to harmonize this marriage and create a home within ourselves is so that we can develop a sense of trust and safety within ourselves.

And so everyone knows that when you're not in a place of safety and you're not in a place of trust,

What comes out of that situation is so many things that it creates inconsistency,

It creates doubt.

We just can't fully be our most authentic selves when we're not in a place of trust or safety.

And so a harmonized mind and body allows us to cut through the illusions of what we see and to see things more clearly.

And so the quality of the relationship within ourselves in the marriage of these two,

It creates the lens in which we see life from.

And I can speak from personal experience.

I remember specifically a time in my life when I was going through something and I recognized that I needed to make a choice.

And I didn't know what to do because my mind and my heart were battling.

And what I mean by that is that it was very clear to me that I was going back and forth.

So one thing I didn't know what was what,

But one thing I didn't know for sure was that one was my mind and one was my heart.

And no one told me this,

But intuitively I thought to myself,

I don't know which one's which,

But I do know that I keep going from one thought to the other.

One thing's not,

It doesn't feel clear to me.

And so what I did for two years straight,

What I did is I would go to bed and I would close my eyes and I would put my mind in my heart.

And I thought to myself,

I don't know why I did this.

Okay.

But I thought to myself,

You know,

I'm just going to put my mind in my heart every night and just,

I feel like they both needed to be in the same place.

How would you do that?

Is it a form of meditation?

Would you try to meld your feelings together?

How would that work?

So it's funny that you say try.

So I didn't try anything.

It just was.

And so what I did was I just,

I simplified it.

So I allowed my mind to turn off.

I closed my eyes.

It's like,

Have you ever watched the magic school bus?

Yes.

With Ms.

Frizzle.

Yes.

Yeah.

So it's like going into my body and literally feeling the space in my chest,

Feeling my heart,

Feeling my lungs,

Connecting with my breath,

But focusing mainly on my heart as if I just acknowledged my heart and acknowledged it as if I would acknowledge a friend.

And I allowed myself to just be in that space.

And so there was a lot of things that were happening subconsciously over time until something came to me where I can't explain it,

But something came to me that it was just clear.

There was just an acceptance and it just was.

So what I noticed immediately from doing that was there was a greater sense of peace.

I would wake up in the morning with a greater sense of peace.

I would see life differently.

I would perceive people differently.

And things were changing,

Which was influencing my ability to perceive things for what they really were,

Which was giving me the safety and the trust in knowing that my decision and the decision I was coming to was coming from the right place.

It was coming from the collaboration of the two.

So what's this sort of like an unconscious feeling?

When you go to bed,

You know your body wants to go to bed.

Yes.

And it's sort of like you don't really have to ask for it.

You don't really have to ramp up to it with your mind,

Right?

Yes,

Totally.

So it just clicks.

It just clicks.

It's just those times when you hear it's like you just have a thought and there's just clarity.

And the way I would describe it is that it's not,

You know what,

It was a combination,

I guess,

But it could have been where it's like something came to me,

That thought,

That's it,

Just what it is.

But also a part of me that felt like something left me.

And so whatever the disharmony was,

It left me and there was just a sense of clarity.

It was just a sense of alignment where there was no back and forth.

It just was.

And so,

Yeah,

So that's kind of like what happened.

So ultimately what I was doing was I was marrying the two.

There's a lot of conflict between mind and body.

A lot of people would want to,

Let's say,

Stay secure.

And then there are others who will take the plunge,

But it doesn't necessarily have to be both of them.

It doesn't necessarily have to be one or the other,

Right?

No.

Like I've known friends who have whinged,

They've complained to me for years.

They would say,

I'm making this career choice.

And then years later they would be so mad and fed up about it.

They would choose some other career.

And then you'll hear five or six years after that,

They do the exact same process.

It's this big circle of disappointment.

Yes.

So it's funny you say that.

I can give an analogy and I love giving examples.

So this is how I would describe it.

It's just how we allow ourselves to be influenced when we're not grounded within who we are.

And so what I mean by that is,

Here's a common example.

You have a relationship with another person,

Be it a friendship,

A romantic relationship or whatever relationship you have,

A business relationship.

And within every relationship,

Just like the one within ourselves,

There's going to be disagreements and there's going to be triggers.

And so number one,

It's obviously first making sure that we have the intention and we have a clear intention in that relationship because there needs to be a knowing that there are going to be disagreements,

But that intention is going to facilitate the way and it's going to influence how we navigate ourselves through the arguments so that we can come back to that intention.

So it's sort of like an establishment or a settling.

Yes.

So for example,

If it's a friendship,

My intention is to love my friend.

And so in the moment that I have a disagreement,

As long as I have an awareness of that intention,

Then I'm going to go about the argument with the intention to come back to love.

And so in a relationship,

What I'm trying to say with the whole marrying yourself and how I would compare into a relationship is what happens is that we sometimes or most of the time seek validation.

And so what tends to happen is if there's a disagreement with someone,

Whether it be a romantic relationship,

Whether it be a friendship or business,

We go off and speak to another person and we share our perspective of our situation with another person,

But from our perspective that is influenced and it doesn't allow the other person.

So let's just say I'm in disagreement with my friend and I go talk to someone else and say she said this or she made me feel this,

This,

That.

And what happens when you do that is that the person who's listening,

Depending on where they are within their marriage of themselves,

They're only going to understand the truth of what you're saying to them.

And if what is shared to them is a biased story that is coming with your raw emotions,

They may possibly provide some advice and insight to enable you from thinking in the direction that you're thinking of,

Which could be something that is not supportive of your intention to love that person.

And so we become influenced by that.

So sort of like a warped narrative.

Yes,

Absolutely.

And so then we go back to that friendship with this belief,

A stronger belief of that relationship or of that person and it takes us away farther from the intention of just going back to love and trusting that.

And so it's the same thing within ourselves.

We get influenced by social media,

We see all these things and we may go into our hearts and we may align and we'll be like,

Yes,

Yes,

I'm clear and then we go out in the world and it's so easy to be influenced to change our minds.

And that's where it's important that we have a balance of what we allow ourselves to be exposed to,

What we allow ourselves to receive and to acknowledge the fact that the real truth is within ourselves and if we just take the time to invest in that relationship and to trust in that relationship.

It's almost like you're straying off from the topic at hand when we're saying that example with a friend.

If you go to a third friend about it,

You're not going to receive the answers of that first question,

Right?

Absolutely,

Yes,

Totally.

And in a sense,

It's like you're kind of cheating on the relationship.

You're not honoring the relationship.

And I can only speak for myself but I do know that for myself,

I've committed myself to this practice of connecting my mind and my heart and connecting to my truth.

And I've really seen huge positive shifts that I could probably say are miraculous.

In the last 12 years of my journey,

I noticed immediately in the beginning but it's an evolution and it's a constant expansion.

But what I noticed is that my relationship within myself is reflected on my relationship with other people.

And so,

Should I ever turn to a third party for perspective about something I'm going through with another person?

My intention is always to gain perspective and help me to see what I'm not seeing so that I can reconnect back to the intention of love.

So let's just say for example,

I'm talking to you Phil.

I'm like,

Man,

You know so and so or let's just say I'm complaining about this person said this to me and blah,

Blah,

Blah and I can't believe it.

So I'm just raw.

I need to be raw and authentic with how I feel.

And so the friends that I speak to are the ones that I trust who reflect the version of me that is in harmony even though in that moment,

I'm feeling something.

And so what my true friends will do for me is either just listen and recognize I just need to be heard but don't enable and say,

Yeah,

I can't believe they did that.

Screw them.

Are you trying to do this?

Are you trying to do that?

Yeah,

Instead it's like give me perspective.

What am I seeing?

And usually if not always,

They'll say,

You know,

Look at it from their perspective.

Did you ever think of this?

And so what I love about that is that it makes me a better person and allows me to go back to the other person and feel,

First of all,

My conscious is clean.

I feel like it's not that I'm gossiping or talking about them but it feels like I'm honoring that relationship.

And in that moment sometimes we can't directly talk to the person because it's too raw and it's too personal in the moment.

And so we need an unbiased opinion,

Someone who's detached,

Who can speak on behalf of that other person.

And that's why your mind and your heart has to have a unifying front.

You have to understand yourself before you start complaining to other people about things.

Absolutely.

Or you want to,

You know,

We can only trust the friends who understand themselves because they'll have a deeper understanding of other situations.

People call it wisdom in some ways but it's more like having that perspective.

Absolutely.

Perspective is that great word you've got there.

Absolutely.

And it's all within philosophy too,

Right?

I mean,

How much of what I'm saying is truth and will you find in books and,

You know,

I mean the truth is that love is truth.

You know,

I didn't invent it when I die it's still going to be around and before I was born it was around.

So,

You know,

And so as I'm sharing my experience of,

You know,

How I've harnessed love and used it to help me in ways that has really saved me from a lot of things,

Saved me from a lot of unnecessary pain and has saved and helped a lot of other people,

You know,

It's just my own personal experience.

So there's so many ways of doing it but there's these common principles and common patterns that I'm noticing that ultimately to be able to accept the fact that harmony within our minds and our hearts and harmony within,

You know,

What's going within us will be projected in such a way in our lives,

In our relationships that will just bring about harmony everywhere else and that's all I'm really saying.

So how would you tell someone though,

How would you tell someone who thinks that,

You know,

Even though your heart and your soul and your brain and all the other sort of the invisible parts of your persona,

How would you tell them who think,

You know,

Who says what do you mean love,

Self-love,

What does that mean?

It sounds like a sort of a hippie concept but how do you explain that sort of,

What would you say,

Mantra that you should be in with yourself?

Being able to unify your heart and soul.

Totally.

I guess,

And I've said this before,

It's just very clear in that I just want to share.

So the first thing,

If someone were to actually challenge me now,

The first thing I'd say is are you genuinely interested in me and my perspective on what I'm sharing and what is your intention wanting me to share?

Is your intention to make me wrong and to prove I'm wrong?

Yeah,

That seems to be a thing especially on social media where people would argue for the sake of arguing.

You could argue against toast because they just happen to want to open their mouths but that has nothing to do with them.

Absolutely and so my intention is very clear.

My intention is just to open perspective to help the way it's helped me and it's not to be forced upon if someone doesn't want the help.

But if someone was genuinely asking me and they're really just stuck on.

How do I love myself?

How do I love myself?

I'm trying.

The intention,

Rosa,

Is to get to where you're saying I'm just not understanding.

And what I would say then because there's an openness because that in itself is a relationship.

Whether I'm being a teacher and you're the student or we're just two random human beings in this world and just having a conversation.

Before there can be any interaction,

There needs to be an openness.

And so I probably wouldn't trust to share my information with you if I perceived judgment or I perceived your intention to be nothing but just to prove me wrong because it's not in alignment with my intention.

And that seems to be a trend.

People straying away from who they actually are as people.

They'd rather just sprout out talking points,

Opinions,

Thinking that they're on cable news or something.

Look at me.

I'm being all wise because look,

I'm throwing stuff at you.

I'm debating you for that reason.

Exactly.

And so this is not a debate.

This is like a sharing.

And so assuming someone would be genuinely asking me and they said,

How do I do it?

I would say,

First of all,

Rome wasn't built in a day.

And to first and foremost,

There needs to be an acceptance that this is a journey.

It's not going to happen by tomorrow.

And I think the reason and I feel the reason and I've experienced this through my students and stuff that the reason why there is a struggle to achieve this harmony and to find that alignment between mind and bodies,

Because there's a lack of patience and understanding that this is a mastery and everyone knows that it takes 10,

000 reps to master something.

But it also is more difficult to master something when you're actually trying to change a pattern that you've strengthened that is in the way of the new pattern you're trying to implement.

Especially when your brain and your heart are not following the same name.

Totally.

When you're not providing yourself with the united front.

Absolutely.

So if you've gotten really good at mastering not being in alignment between your mind and heart,

Don't judge it.

But just accept that and start somewhere and start little and start with an intention.

I would say the first thing I would say is do you desire the alignment?

So Phil,

If I'm talking to you,

If I said to you,

Well,

Do you really desire to have that alignment?

Do you really want it?

Yes,

I feel like I need to have one,

What would you say,

One promise in life.

One sort of cause that I feel very passionate about.

Awesome.

Okay.

The second question I would ask is do you believe that you can get there?

If you asked me years ago I would say no because I thought it was some kind of pipe dream.

But considering where I am today,

I feel like I can't.

Awesome.

And so let's just go with both scenarios.

So let's just say you said no,

I don't want to,

I don't believe.

That's fine too.

The thing is that I'm aware that in order for us to manifest something in our lives we need to believe.

Belief is what gets things happening.

And so if you don't believe you're not going to entertain the things or the choices or make choices that you need to make in order to make it happen.

You're going to know,

I know I should be doing this meditation but you don't do it because you don't believe.

Why would you entertain something you don't believe?

I should have achieved this,

I should have had that.

Yes.

It's the should have,

Would have,

Could have thing.

So if you're in a point where you would say no,

I don't believe,

Then my next question would say do you desire or do you want to get to the point where you can believe?

And in that case you could say no,

Then I'd be like cool.

And then that's it.

I'm not judging you and that's fine.

And I would just say you know what,

I wish you well and I hope the best for you.

And if you're telling me that you really,

Really desire wanting to get there but you don't believe and you don't want to believe.

You can't expect others to say I'll fix you.

Yeah,

Then I'm sorry I don't know how to fix you because that's not what I'm here to do.

And so it has to come from within yourself.

Now if you did say yes,

I do believe,

Then great.

Entertain that belief.

Just here's the action plan,

Here's how to do it and start simple.

Like start literally,

You're in bed anyways in the morning,

You're in bed at night as well.

You're already thinking with your heart that way or you're already unifying your body because you're going to bed every night.

Yes.

Every morning.

Yes,

Exactly.

So just in the last five minutes or ten minutes before bed,

I passed out with my mind and my heart together every night.

And it sounds silly,

It doesn't sound scientific,

It doesn't make sense but here's the beautiful thing about truth.

Is that when you test truth,

You always get the answer.

And so sometimes when it comes to this kind of stuff,

Reading thousands of books and hearing from thousands of gurus.

Self-help books.

Yes.

It's still not enough for someone to understand.

And where the true understanding comes is when we've actually experienced.

And so that's where the wisdom comes.

And so until then it's just knowledge.

And so we actually have to apply and put our faith in something and allow ourselves to just try it.

And if at first seeing is believing,

That's fine.

The truth will always show you.

And don't deny the truth when you start to notice little changes.

Be open to it.

Don't deny it as coincidences.

And I say that because it's funny because I've had so many students who have done things and they're like,

This happened but it's just a coincidence.

And they'll come see me for like three months,

Six months,

A year.

It doesn't matter.

And it just becomes a joke where it's like,

Yeah,

It's just a coincidence when clearly things are happening and things are changing.

And so allow yourself to gain the wisdom by going through the experience and see for yourself.

And that's all I can say.

So yeah.

So what I want to say,

Is that a good,

Does that make sense?

Absolutely.

It makes a lot of sense.

It's like that news reader who once told me,

Luck is spelled W-O-R-K.

You really have to put efforts into whatever you're doing in order to really succeed.

Absolutely.

It's simple,

But it's,

How would you say it?

It's simple,

But it's not easy.

So it does take effort.

And so what I want to say today is I want,

In considering the fact that it's number one,

Just protect your home.

Your home is where your mind and your heart have a relationship.

Protect it,

Engage with that relationship,

Allow that relationship to just engage with each other every day,

Have a meeting every day with the intention to harmonize them so they're in the same place.

Really look outwardly to open perspective,

To open you up to perspective,

To enable the intention of harmonizing the relationship,

Not to take you away.

So stay on the relationship.

Stay on the subject,

Don't stray off.

Don't try anything.

Yes.

If you need to speak to someone,

Tell them that you're looking for perspective or you just need to be heard so you can get things out of your system so you can see more clearly.

But yeah,

So I would say just start with that and protect that.

And you will see why that having that solitude will impact your life in all areas in a way that just brings a lot of goodness towards you.

And I'm not saying that things won't be hard.

You still may go through hardship and everything but just like in a business.

It's how you treat it,

It's how you receive it.

Yeah,

It's how you receive it and it's how you get through it that will bring about a greater part of you.

So just give yourself the permission to open your heart,

Surrender the self-sabotage and please be kind to yourself.

Start loving yourself.

Be open and vulnerable.

Back in with what's really going on inside of you.

Ask for help.

Take the time to understand it.

Love it.

And when you experience your ability to love all of you and what it does to your heart,

It will move you to be that for others and to allow them to experience love in ways that they may never have had.

That's what I really want to share.

So if anybody has any questions or want to talk further on this topic,

You can email me at rosa at risemindbody.

Com.

You can also check me out on my podcast on at Rise with Rosa.

You can also check out my studio,

Risemindbody.

Com.

We also have an Instagram at risemindbody.

Com.

So please,

Please,

Please send me your comments,

Your questions.

I can elaborate and go on and on and on with these topics.

Don't try to email.

Yes,

Exactly.

And so I'm more than happy to talk about this stuff.

This is my passion and I love talking about it and I'm very,

Very open to perspective.

So thank you.

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