We Are Responsible For Our Souls First

More blessings for this holiday season.

Some may have seen that Premasudha's channels have been taken down. This heavy-handed action has come about as a result of a misunderstanding, and it is hoped this will be unravelled and the channels returned soon.

This could take some time, however.

What bothers Premasudha is that regular viewers might start to distrust unconditional love or spiritual teaching and decide that to embody our soul energy is just not possible.

Or even worse, that soul energy does not exist.

Still, these challenges do come on the spiritual journey. (This is number 9 million 995,000 for Premasudha!) Hopefully resolution will occur in a timely manner.

It was a stunningly powerful Satsang. When Bhavani spoke from the hall where Amma was giving darshan, the deeper meaning of things was felt.

Speakers: Maxi, Cindy, Susan, Bhavani

Transcript

We're calling on Amma's grace,

We're calling on the Creator's grace to fill us,

To fill our minds,

Our hearts,

The cells of our body,

To realize that this whole universe is grace.

It's run by grace,

It's built in grace,

It's created out of grace.

And you are this grace,

You guys,

You are this grace.

Truly.

So that's the joke,

We ask Amma for grace,

The Creator for grace,

And it's given.

But the bigger understanding is,

We are grace,

You are grace.

And when you get that,

Grace will just explode in your lives.

You'll be doused in it,

Because it's you opening to your own heart.

Yeah,

It just takes time.

Okay,

Bless your hearts,

Create compassion,

Empathy from Pramasuta about what the journey's like.

Totally.

Oh my goodness.

Yep.

Okay.

So there's one thing I want to read to you guys,

And it's if you're wondering why you're unhappy.

Okay?

So this was a Rwandan explains why they rejected Western psychologists after the genocide.

They came and their practice did not involve being outside in the sun,

Where you could begin to feel better.

There was no music,

No drumming to get your blood flowing again.

There was no sense that everyone had taken the day off,

So that the whole community could come together to lift you up and bring you back to joy.

There was no acknowledgement of the,

Oh dear,

Of the depression as something invasive and external that could actually be cast out again.

Instead,

They would take people one at a time into these dingy little rooms and have them sit around for an hour or so and talk about all the bad things that had happened to them.

We had to ask them to leave.

Okay,

You guys.

So this is what I want you to see.

Do you see this is what your minds do to you?

Please,

They take you into a dingy room and you have to think about all the bad things that happened to you.

Please understand this.

You know,

When Prema Suta,

After the two breakdowns,

Prema Suta,

You know,

I just knew I wasn't going to get any help in the West.

And that's why I went to see Abraham.

And at the time,

It was just instinctual.

But now I see the wisdom of it because I got out in the sunshine.

I got movement.

I got what the Rwandans are talking about.

And so it was part of Prema Suta's wisdom that she took herself there.

And this is how we see our own beauty.

You see,

You see the wisdom of your choices.

Because even if there are difficulties,

If you see the heart of the wisdom of your choice,

Not just the negative.

So this also,

I want to like this work comes from that expansive place that the Rwandan guy was talking about.

That's where this comes from.

Okay.

I just want to remind you,

Because some of you kick and scream so hard at Prema Suta as she tries to help you out of your mind.

And you kick and scream and get mad at her.

And it's like,

Oh,

My goodness.

I just go to the comedy of life,

You know.

I mean,

What's the point?

Okay.

So anyway,

I've said my piece.

Okay.

So please,

Someone come forward.

Bless your heart.

Jump in.

Maxi.

Is something on your heart at all?

Oh,

I was just thinking about,

Yeah,

What you said,

Get out of the house and go dancing.

I go dancing later for ecstatic dance.

Because I'm feeling of,

I don't know.

I just want to be free and dance and be happy and not caught in my mind.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It gets me.

Right.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I know.

It's like we have to,

That expression,

We pick up the cross.

You have to pick up the cross.

You have to pick up your pain and face it.

Okay.

This is important for a lot of you because you're kind of,

A lot of you are kind of,

Okay,

I don't want to feel this pain and I want it to be fixed.

Prema Suta showed me how to do that.

And it's like,

No.

Your soul is speaking to you through the pain.

You have to face the pain directly and speak to the pain directly.

It is your best teacher.

Yeah.

When you're going the wrong way,

The pain will go up.

Yeah.

And I can feel how I don't want to look at the pain.

I know.

I know.

Yeah.

And it hurts.

It's okay.

It hurts.

It hurts to run from it.

Yeah.

You're better to face it,

But not in a forcing way.

You just get brought to facing it.

Okay,

Sweetie.

You'll just get brought to it.

It's nothing you have to,

It's when it dawns on you that the only way you're going to get through it is if you face it.

Yeah.

Right.

And then,

Maxie,

That will turn you into a great healer.

I'm not kidding.

And you'll have the naturopathic things as well as your energy.

I mean,

You've got a big treasure to receive about this.

Do you see what I mean?

The results of a little bit of effort for you emotionally will be very good for the society.

Yeah.

I feel that.

There's this big,

How am I going to do it?

And I know I'm not doing it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah,

Because how am I going to do it?

The I is the phony pit.

Yeah.

You'll just get brought to it.

You just have to get the truth of what Premasudha is saying to you,

And you'll just get brought to it.

You'll see there's no other escape,

And that you're just causing other people pain by you trying to escape it.

You might as well face it.

It's your dharma.

It's a small step.

It's a step like somebody might be doing this to themselves,

And it's a small step to just go,

Okay.

Right.

There's no other choice.

It's like I have to accept this challenge if I want anything good to happen as a result of my life.

And then notice not wanting to accept the challenge.

Notice all the withholds.

Notice all the crap,

You guys.

Noticing the crap is what heals it.

Nice,

Sweetie,

Maxie.

I can feel it's like a pane of clear glass.

It's like you go up to the window pane.

That window pane is just your mind.

It'll melt.

It'll melt.

It's just your intellect.

It's not real.

Yeah.

And part of you feels safer there.

Like you really want to hold on.

Yeah.

It's okay.

Sweetheart,

Just walk around with this.

It's okay.

You're on track,

Maxie.

You've grown hugely since you started.

Okay?

Thank you.

Yeah.

Well,

It's true.

And your fear functions like a self-deprecation.

Some of you guys,

It's real self-deprecation.

And it's really untrue.

Yeah.

I have an example.

Yesterday I was at a friend's house.

And she had like all those crazy shoes.

And I was there the first time.

I was just like,

Oh,

I want to try this on.

And that looks nice.

And that looks nice.

And we had a lot of fun.

And then I was at home.

And it came like,

Oh,

You're too much.

And you shouldn't have done that.

And I could really hear like these voices.

Like,

Oh,

That's not true.

That's not true.

That's not true.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's kind of spooky,

Though,

Too.

It's like,

Oh.

Yeah,

It's fear.

So it will have a spooky quality.

Well,

Okay.

You're just going to have to join the too much club.

Because primasutas.

It's like healers are always too much.

They go beyond the stupid boxes.

I know.

And I love me being that.

Me,

Too.

Me,

Too.

I love you for it.

Yeah.

Right.

One of the many reasons.

Yeah.

You just,

Yeah,

Watch it.

Yeah.

That's why I talk about journaling.

Because if you can write it down,

Then you'll stop thinking about it.

But,

Yeah,

Primasutas.

I mean,

I've walked through so much of this stuff.

I get it.

So,

Yeah,

It is this way.

It's not you're doing anything wrong.

Every step into more exuberance,

You'll get the ego rattling the chains.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The other thing,

You guys,

Is we women,

We're moving past the patriarchy.

Okay.

So this is challenging.

Okay.

Truly.

But,

And that's part of where the fear comes up.

Because the exuberant feminine energy,

You know,

Has not really been allowed.

So,

Again,

Patience and compassion with yourself.

Yeah,

I can feel part of you gets hooked again.

You go,

Oh,

Here it is again.

And you get like,

Oh,

Here it is again.

I can't escape it.

And,

You know,

Just keep remembering.

You either do it this life or you come back to the next.

It has to be done.

And maybe Ama won't be here.

So,

Yeah.

Listen,

This is stuff primasuta kept in mind.

It's like,

I don't want to have to face this next life.

Or I don't want to have to face this in the next ten years.

Right.

This is it.

Okay.

Oh,

You're like a little kid trying to get out of housework.

No,

You are.

You have fights with your daughter sometimes,

Right?

Does she do this?

I don't know.

But it's like this little kid trying to get away from mom's chores.

I'm going to hide.

Yeah.

It's your little child.

Right.

Right.

And she's been busted.

You can't.

And that's the little child energy that's wanting to come in.

And be allowed in.

So,

Love her.

And you guys,

See the tricks of your little child.

Get what she does.

Just like this with Maxie.

It's like this little kid trying to hide from chores.

You learn how to mother your little child.

You understand your little child.

You know her tricks.

That's it.

That's it.

Maxie.

I have very good news for you.

A very big expanse of wisdom is on the way.

All right?

So,

Be brave and keep going.

You know,

Come on.

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much.

You know,

It's not like without help,

It would take us like so many lifetimes.

Right?

I know.

Sweetie.

Thank you for being so open and innocent and vulnerable.

Because then the teaching.

And this has helped everybody.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Oh,

That's so dear.

Thank you,

Maxie.

Okay.

Cindy,

How are you?

Whoa.

Oh,

Me?

Yeah,

I'm doing well.

I'm doing well.

I'm.

It hasn't.

Something's bubbling up and it hasn't quite come to the surface yet.

I'm waiting.

Right.

With an open heart.

Yeah.

Hard things.

I can feel it's very difficult.

But.

I'm here.

Okay.

So.

Yeah.

So.

You know,

I just feel like.

It's like.

I don't know how to put it.

It's like there is.

Angelic forces.

Transcendent forces.

Putting some love and compassion in your heart.

Putting it in.

To help you.

To help you.

Yeah.

And it was sort of like,

I was learning,

Like,

It felt like.

But I felt like everybody.

Angels.

It doesn't matter where it's coming from.

The important thing is.

That this it's the love and compassion and it's been kind of.

It's been both placed.

And activated.

In your heart.

Yeah.

To help give you sort of something to stand on.

As you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Embrace all this.

Okay.

Okay.

Good work.

Okay.

Is pouring love into us.

Right.

You guys.

Saw this.

In Europe.

Right.

So.

It is being poured into us right now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thank goodness.

Yeah.

Okay.

Good,

Cindy.

Okay,

Good.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Blessings.

Blessings.

You're you're worth it.

Cindy.

Yeah.

You know,

What's interesting.

I'm seeing around you.

Like your ego kind of wants to.

It's sort of like I'm seeing these flowers and it's sort of like they're a little bit cartoon flowers.

And I'm kind of wanting you to allow the real flowers.

Right.

Yeah.

Like your ego doesn't have to get in there and.

Try to help or fix.

Micro manual.

Pardon.

Micro manage.

Right.

Right.

It's the creators doing it.

Yeah.

Okay.

It's interesting.

Okay.

This is a little complicated for you.

There's this kind of feeling of.

You know,

Sadness,

Despair.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This is what you're scared of facing.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

There's even more love being put in your.

I love it.

I just love this.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

You can't feel it yet,

Cindy.

But there's a point where your bigger understanding is really going to blossom.

And you're going to understand where premise suit is coming from a lot more.

Okay.

Okay.

Like you,

You do have an intuition of it.

But it's like.

You need a felt experience of it.

And you move into self-deprecation too.

Like Maxi.

Right.

Right.

We know this.

Right.

And it's very unearned.

Okay.

I want you to realize that premise suit.

Suda finds you.

Really unusually innocent and honest.

And transparent.

Okay.

And you are willing to pick yourself up when you fall and you are willing to pick yourself up and approach premise Suda again.

When you feel maybe she,

You know,

A bit of a wall coming from premise.

You approached again.

It's huge.

That is huge.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So,

You know,

Play this again.

Yes.

Hear it.

Yeah.

I will.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Huge.

For that step you made.

Just.

A month or so.

No,

Really.

Right.

Right.

Right.

Right.

Okay,

Good.

Okay.

There's a little bit of happiness coming in.

I can feel.

This is good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Guys,

We're God.

You know,

We feel so flawed and,

You know,

Especially if we're moms,

We feel,

You know,

We could do things differently and it's like,

No.

No,

We're.

We're really,

You know,

You know,

If you are here doing this work.

You are a triumph of the human spirit over fear.

And resistance.

It's true.

If you turn up.

I mean it.

Remember this started out with,

Like,

We started out with about 30 people.

No,

It goes down.

It goes down.

It's like,

You know.

Here you are.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

You know,

I'm in her Christmas sets and she was talking about the heavy lifters.

Some people,

They can't lift that much,

But then other people.

You know,

Can lift a lot.

In transformation,

They can.

You know,

These difficult things they have the ability to face difficult things.

This is work for like heavy lifters.

It's true.

Yeah,

It's true.

This is what I teach.

This is what.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

This is very exciting.

Guys,

That's awesome.

Thanks,

Cindy.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Have you finished?

Is there anything else you need to say?

Maybe no,

No,

I'm digesting.

Thank you.

I'm very good.

Thank you.

Okay,

Good.

Good.

Okay,

So.

Come forward,

Ladies and gentlemen.

I chose a couple to get everybody going.

But.

It's a bit anxiety producing to choose people because.

You don't want to make sure everybody has a chance.

So,

You know,

When I choose.

It's sort of.

No teacher likes to choose really.

Because you're also valuable.

I just choose when I feel a really big.

Something.

Something.

And also to get,

Get it going a bit.

The question and answer.

Yep.

How about somebody who doesn't speak much.

Or somebody who needs to speak.

Class of monosyllabic infants.

You guys.

Okay.

All right.

Sebastian.

Are you there?

Yes.

Hello.

Yes,

I'm here.

Good.

I'm.

I'm still at my parents.

I'm still at my parents place.

So,

That's why I took off the camera.

And I'm still here since Christmas.

After Christmas.

Oh,

That's a long time.

Oh,

Yes.

It's nice,

Actually.

Good,

Good.

And you're getting good food,

I bet.

Are you?

Your mom's cooking?

Well,

My mom's cooking today.

Gerard and I were cooking.

Food cooking?

Gerard and I.

Gerard is here.

Because he couldn't go to Canada.

Oh.

That's why I asked my parents if it's okay.

So,

Yes.

Oh,

Good.

Yes.

Oh,

It's good food.

Yes.

But even while you were speaking,

I was a little bit reflecting about.

That even my mind is tricky in eating.

Making me busy in eating.

And getting trouble in some food that I'm usually not eating.

So,

Not feeling that energetic.

Yeah,

Yeah.

I saw food in capital letters right across you.

That's why I asked about the food.

Yes.

Right.

Yes.

It's okay.

You're waking up.

It's okay.

You are waking up.

Okay?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah,

You are.

Yeah.

You guys,

Look,

Some of this is just human.

You can just see that you're getting interested in food.

But it's not a sin.

It's just,

You know,

Just give it over to Amma.

Help.

Help Amma make me more focused on the journey,

You know.

The worst thing to do is notice that we're a little bit off and then focus on that and berate ourselves.

That's the worst.

Just give it over in a second and pivot.

You pivot.

You guys,

Please get this.

You see some little bit of darkness.

You give it over and you pivot and shift into being more present then.

Not bad,

Bad Sebastian.

Bad,

Bad Sebastian.

No.

No.

Well,

Then even sometimes we start to have nice walks.

My parents are in the countryside and there are nice places around,

Even energetic places.

I think I told you about this kind of fairy tale kingdom nearby.

Yes,

You did.

Yeah,

Yeah,

Yeah.

And during the year it was almost nothing but going on there.

And now everybody returned and it's such a nice energy again.

It's wonderful,

Yes.

And with the horse,

My parents and doing some energy treatments with one of the horses because.

Oh,

Good.

Got some problems in an emotional and mental way.

So,

Yes.

Not only the food.

It's also the other parts of doing some duty.

The thing I'm seeing really strongly,

You know,

After the food and capitals was you have a heart of gold.

You just have this huge heart of gold.

That's me.

Yeah,

That's it.

That's it.

Yeah,

I get it.

Yeah.

This huge heart of gold.

And,

You know,

When we have a huge heart of gold,

We might see where we've got flaws and everything.

Oh,

Well.

Really huge heart of gold,

Sebastian.

I'm really feeling it,

Seeing it.

Mm-hmm.

Uh-huh.

Right.

And it's like it's as if you need to embrace it and allow it more.

Allow it.

Follow it.

Live it.

It's like to get your arms around this big,

Big heart of yours.

Yeah.

Right.

Right.

Yes,

I know it.

In one way,

I'm perceiving it.

In the other way,

Then it's my mind saying,

Oh,

But you golden heart,

But don't give too much.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And there's always this rate of,

Yes,

Giving more than what is there.

Okay.

Stop for a minute.

Do you see that you just argued for your ego?

Okay.

Yeah.

Right.

Oh,

I love this.

You see,

You could tell Pramasut has made some shifts too,

Eh?

You see,

We all go together.

No,

Really.

Yeah.

Even the message,

What I just perceived is my huge golden heart or this huge heart of gold is even there for me.

Right.

Mm-hmm.

Right.

Right.

That's it.

It's there for you first,

And then you share from that.

That's it.

That's it.

And you guys,

Notice the tricks of the little child.

Like,

Notice the excuses.

Really.

And just keep embracing.

Yeah.

Love that little child.

That little child who learned that it wasn't safe to have a golden heart.

Now it's becoming safe.

That's it.

That's it.

It's very good.

It's very good.

Thank you for sharing me.

For reminding you,

That's all.

Reminding me that I was arguing for my mind.

Oh,

Yeah.

Yes.

Okay,

Yeah.

Well,

Pramasut,

This is what Pramasut gets.

Yeah.

Anyway,

Don't worry.

Yes.

Good.

It's nothing to do with Pramasut.

I'm just kind of laughing at the.

.

.

I'm getting quicker at pointing it out.

Yeah.

That's it.

That's it.

And I'm seeing.

.

.

Sebastian,

I'm seeing a sliver of misunderstanding being pulled out of your mind.

Okay?

And it's,

Yeah,

These misunderstandings,

They create pus like a sliver does.

Okay?

So the root of a misunderstanding in you has been pulled out.

So,

Yeah,

That will make change more.

.

.

Yeah,

You'll be able to pivot more easily.

Yeah.

It'll be easier to integrate.

Yeah.

Okay.

Are you complete?

I'm fine.

I mean,

I'm fine.

I just felt something in my heart and I'm about to cry.

Yeah,

Good.

In a pleasant way.

Not of a hurtful,

Pleasant way.

Right,

No.

Receiving love,

It makes us cry,

Right?

I mean,

That's.

.

.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's why people.

.

.

You know,

Amma,

Once with me,

I asked her,

What do I need to see?

And she said,

How sad you are.

And I went off and cried for two hours solid.

And when love comes to us,

We cry in kind of a relief,

Really,

You know?

Like the little child,

Like,

Yeah,

Right.

But I'm really loved.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's great.

This is it.

We're all.

.

.

Yeah.

Oh,

Thank you.

For all these vulnerable little kids,

You know?

Yep.

Susan.

Susan,

I'm talking to you,

Honey.

Hello.

I did.

.

.

I had Christmas dinner with my family and everything was fine.

I've noticed a lot of changes in myself.

But today I'm feeling like contamination.

Okay.

And wondering about.

.

.

Like,

Wondering what that means going forward.

I would.

.

.

I don't know.

So I'm feeling a little bit of,

Like,

Confusion today around that.

Like,

Do I want to spend time with them if this is,

Like,

The residual response?

And then the confusion,

Is it in me?

Thinking about my own self-worth?

I don't know.

So I'm feeling caught.

Yeah.

Well,

I'll tell you something I found.

Is one has to be careful where one puts oneself.

And there is a terrible pain that comes when you get really close to people who are not willing to grow.

If you're wanting to grow.

So,

You know,

We can see people,

But maybe not that often.

Or we can also,

When we're in those situations,

We can keep a focus on our hearts constantly.

So we're focusing on our own heart,

And we're at a social situation.

It's very good training to do that,

You guys.

It will keep you aware.

And then when you fall asleep again,

Just catch it and go back to focusing on your heart.

Yeah.

I mean,

That.

I can feel how unwilling you are,

Sweet one.

No,

It's,

Like,

I feel like I approached,

Like,

I've been approaching it that way,

And I felt open.

But then,

Like,

It's that thing.

I don't know what to do with the relationship.

I mean,

I have,

I've created a lot of distance.

I'm,

Like,

Really disciplined.

About how much time I spend,

You know,

Things like that.

But then do I even want it at all?

Like,

That's the thing.

And then that makes me,

You know,

I feel kind of sad about.

I feel sad.

Okay.

So,

You know,

You did what egos do.

Premasutha spoke to the roots of what the problem is,

And you ignored it.

So that's okay.

You know,

But I'm saying the problem is your unwillingness to bond with your.

It's not even to bond with your true nature.

It's to get to know the real you.

Like,

Yeah,

It's just a minute.

It's like you don't think it's really there.

That's what the problem is.

You don't really think that your soul energy exists.

That's the problem.

So it's hard for you to,

Like,

Begin to get to know yourself on a deeper way because you don't really think it exists.

So how do you feel as I say this?

It's like.

Yeah,

Hollow.

Right.

It actually makes everything hollow.

Yeah.

You do so much damage control about things,

Like,

Or trying to,

You know,

Twist yourself into,

Like.

Yeah.

But you're doing it without wallowing off your true energy.

So it's never good.

None of this is going to work.

Okay.

It's like your only place of safety is in the arms of God at this point.

You're going to have to put yourself in the arms of God to solve this.

In the arms of Allah,

The arms of God,

Because you don't know.

And you can't do any better than you're doing.

And you're trying so hard.

And what premise suit is saying to you is like the wild truth.

But for you,

It's like you have no idea how to even integrate this in.

Even if you wanted to.

You know,

Other people feel this.

Susan,

This is not just you at all.

You know,

You're so like a jewel.

Who's,

You know,

Thinks that you're just like fake diamond and is running from the whole thing.

And it's like you think the fake being,

Pretending to be a fake diamond is safe and it isn't.

Because you're missing your true diamond nature.

This priceless diamond nature.

But I can feel,

Susan,

You don't feel equipped at all.

And you've got a job.

You know,

You're in a domestic situation.

It's like you're just trying to carry it all without it all collapsing.

Yeah.

Oh,

Sweetie.

So that's the contamination.

You know,

You could set up a phone call with me if you want.

And we could explore this,

You know.

You feel into whether you want to,

Whether you feel ready to.

But Pramasutra has your back,

Susan.

Okay.

But remember,

I am a teacher of truth.

So this is what comes out of my mouth,

You know.

Like Pramasutra can't be controlled to become a therapeutic teacher,

You know.

I'll tell you,

Sweetie,

If you don't do it this life,

You're going to get it next life.

And it'll be worse.

You know what?

We don't face one life.

You know what happens?

We get extra homework the next.

Yeah,

Really.

It's really like that.

You want to face this.

Okay,

Good.

Right.

Okay.

There's some activity around your third eye where you got that.

You got like,

Yeah,

I'm going to have to see.

And you're kind of trying to go,

But maybe I don't.

Maybe I don't have to after all.

Yeah.

So how are you feeling?

Very,

Very honest.

I feel kind of like a burning in my heart area kind of.

And I feel uncomfortable,

A little bit of resistance.

I feel sad.

I feel like I swing back and forth,

But I can't hold on a little bit.

Right.

That's true.

That's okay.

All of that is okay.

The anger,

And for all of you guys,

The burning in your heart is anger.

So,

Susan,

You're going to be faced with kind of an existential decision,

Whether to sort of go along with this anger and turn against this kind of teaching,

Or allow it to clear and bond with your true nature.

It's going to be hard for you to keep coming to sad sayings after this if you don't turn towards your true nature.

You kind of won't want to.

Do you know what I mean?

Like if you decide not to develop,

Coming to sad sayings will make you feel extremely uncomfortable.

If you decide to develop,

Then you'll really love them.

And you'll feel like that you've opened the doors and windows to your place and fresh air is coming in,

And God's in his heaven,

And everything's all right.

Yeah.

What would that feel like it.

That's what,

That's what I want.

And I feel like I was on my way and then that's the thing like getting with the family I go back into that right performance.

Right.

But do you see it,

The own anger you've got to your true nature that makes you want to do that.

Do you see what I mean it's not your fault.

Yeah.

Yeah,

No I know it's not I want to be able to be in the presence of anyone and it doesn't matter,

You know.

Yeah,

No Susan,

Sweetie.

You know,

To do that though you,

You have to tap into the truth of you.

Okay.

Yeah.

You're good enough to,

You know,

The,

As you tap into the truth,

You'll be shown how to solve the various problems that come,

Come up the truth in you will show you the best solutions.

It's nothing that you have to that you're going to be forced to do,

Or that.

Oh,

If I bring in my true nature I'm going to do this and I'm scared of that.

No,

You'll get step by step.

Following your true,

True nature step by step instructions about how to go forward.

Right.

You seem to me to be getting smaller and smaller and smaller,

Like kind of you're melting and it's your ego melting.

And you are not your ego sweetie you're an eternal being.

Right.

Okay.

Okay,

Good.

Okay,

And you're saying to me I'm really quite different than the Susan that I present to the world.

You are.

And you're saying that scares me a little.

But it's so different.

Yeah,

Everybody knows this.

But you're saying,

But I'll be able to breathe.

And I'll be able to really live.

You're going,

I really want that.

Yeah,

Because if you don't do it this life,

You're going to get it next life with more extreme.

Right.

Right.

Okay,

Good.

Okay,

It's very beautiful.

I'm seeing you just being surrounded in grace.

And it's the grace of your true being.

Yeah,

And it's holding you.

Yeah,

It's just holding you with their no demands is just holding your whole body,

Your whole ego,

Just with love.

It's just holding you.

There's no demands.

Right.

And this is what you have to get used to first is just this.

Just being held in your life as you are.

With all the tricks,

Doesn't matter.

It's just being held,

Loved.

All of you guys.

Take this into.

Just being loved,

You're being held.

With in its huge understanding of what it's like to be on the earth plane.

And unlimited compassion.

Yeah,

Truly infinite compassion and understanding of what it's like to be on the earth plane.

And there's this gentle regard coming to you.

It's interesting,

This gentle regarding energy and it's just sort of untying this.

You've got this vest on that's tied up all up here,

Like keeping it all under control and everything.

And this love is just gently untying this control vest.

So you can just breathe and be relaxed.

You don't have to do anything.

You just,

There it is.

Yeah.

Being able to breathe.

That's a big one.

Yeah,

And rest.

And just be.

Just be.

This is wonderful work Susan.

Wonderful.

I feel a letting go.

And in my mind I just it's like everything you say I say.

J Mar,

J Mar.

Yeah,

You know.

Yes.

Yes.

So there's going to be gradually a gradual retraining.

Yeah.

So just,

You know,

We just go along with it.

This is in some weeks,

Don't worry.

It will only start when you're ready.

I promise you,

Your soul is very patient.

It really,

It's like a quality of your soul.

It's like the patience is off the charts.

It's beautiful.

Yeah.

And there's,

Yeah.

I'll tell you,

Your soul's just pleased that you're here and listening.

It's like,

It's doing cartwheels of celebration.

Truly.

So it's all good enough.

Wonderful.

Yeah.

And you guys,

This is like facing the pain.

Like I was saying to you,

You face your pain.

Stuff gets solved.

You face your soul.

It's just beautiful.

It's not punishment.

It's the opposite of punishment.

Or a demand.

It's just love.

Yeah.

And you're so loving,

Susan.

I mean,

The pain for you to resist this loving love bomb that you are.

This infinite love bomb.

It's like,

It's just,

Your whole body will start relaxing and feeling better.

Physically.

With letting this love in.

Because the energy it takes to resist it,

Takes 80% of your energy.

Yeah.

Right.

And as this stops,

You'll get more energy just to,

You know,

Solve whatever happens.

You know,

Just to deal with life.

Yeah.

It's very good work.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're going,

I don't quite believe it,

But that's okay.

I don't know if you're aware of that.

Are you?

Yeah.

Busted.

Do you see?

Yeah.

Like,

Hello?

Hello?

Oh,

I believe it.

I go into like.

It's a little bit like,

I believe it for now.

That.

Yeah,

You're right.

Right.

You're gonna have to choose.

No,

I feel like.

I feel like.

I feel softer.

Throughout.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Open.

Right.

Okay,

Good.

At this time,

You guys on the earth,

People are either raising their vibration,

Or it's declining.

It's kind of one or the other.

Yeah.

Good.

Yeah.

And all of you notice your arguments for the ego.

You know,

You don't want to do that.

You argue for your soul.

That's it.

So the burning is gone and I feel the open opening.

Okay,

Good.

This was my Okay,

This was my biggest concern that you would get caught in that anger and get caught in resistance but yeah,

Good.

J Ma.

Good work.

Good work.

You did it for the whole group,

Susan,

And beyond that,

It.

You did it for the whole world.

Every time we drop a bit of our darkness,

The whole world gets brighter.

It's,

It's the most generous thing we can do.

Yeah.

I just feel I feel like whole.

Okay,

Good.

Yeah,

I knew I needed to be here.

Yeah,

I was like,

I need to be here I didn't I just couldn't figure out how to love myself.

Right.

Like I just felt like I knew this what I needed.

And I tried just meditation and listening.

Okay.

I wanted.

Yeah,

Stop.

Remember when I opened with about when I said to you this is why we have trouble with our minds.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We get narrow,

And we try to fix in this little box,

It's not solvable there.

Right.

It is solvable in the big expanse of our own hearts.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And this is what our culture says is verboten.

Okay,

So this is our struggle you guys.

But here,

You can unleash the stays of your girdles.

Yeah,

Boy.

Yeah.

Okay,

Good.

So just be with all of this.

And you guys,

I'm always available,

The emails or lots of times phone calls so.

But it's important to me that we,

That we're all going the same way.

Right.

Right,

That we all really want this.

Right.

You know,

Pramasutha is on her own journey and I'm at this rising up going on.

So it's a really good time to spend time with Pramasutha,

I'll tell you,

It'll be very,

Very fertile.

If unsettling sometimes.

Sometimes.

We're here to awaken you guys.

This is a great gift,

A great opportunity to grow,

And all that's needed is sincerity.

And we're all idiots like all of us are bumbling idiots like Pramasutha,

I'll tell you that the huge mistakes Pramasutha has made.

There's no judgment about any of this resistance,

Mistakes,

None.

It's just the focus,

We have to know that the focus is on growth.

And you know there's work involved with this like for a gardener if he wants a garden,

He or she has to go and seed the garden,

You know,

We have to put our hearts into this.

Or it doesn't happen.

It's not therapy,

This is not therapy of all the people to hang around.

I mean Pramasutha is one of the most,

You know,

Demanding in lots of ways,

Very gentle,

But very demanding.

And it's why it works.

Right.

I'm just seeing gold everywhere you guys.

Just gold,

All of you are just being surrounded by gold.

You don't have to be superhuman.

I'm not talking about that.

Just pull back into your hearts and think about what you want in life.

That's all.

Pramasutha was the worst student for a long time.

I want you to realize that.

I just got such negative from teachers.

I was the worst student for a long time and I just kept going.

Please hear me on that.

That's all that's needed.

Just keep going.

Never give up.

And you'll see your kids make shifts,

You know,

Make shifts into more truth.

One of mine has gone to the doctor to try to get surgery to fix his nose,

Which has been blocked.

One nostril has been blocked for,

I don't know,

20 years?

No,

25 years since they had a huge.

.

.

I had these two Taurus suns and one head butted the other in the nose.

Yeah.

And now it's like raising voice and closed off the nostril.

Okay,

So he's getting it fixed.

Okay,

So this means that he is actually opening into more air,

Like allowing more air into his lungs.

Do you see what I mean?

He's opening up his.

.

.

Yeah.

And not only that,

His brother was a bit.

.

.

His brother was like 6'3",

You know,

Was really huge.

And anyway,

They backstoried all this,

But this brother was hard on this other brother.

So actually,

By turning and facing this,

Arranging this operation,

It is a healing on very many levels.

It's a healing of him realizing his own worth and taking care of himself and being willing to grow through these patterns.

You see,

You guys,

When you work deeply with the soul,

The changes that occur happen in an ordinary way,

But there's many levels that's going on in a very ordinary thing,

Like with my son getting his nostril fixed.

Right.

It's a really deep thing,

And it wouldn't have happened.

Premasutha doesn't feel it would have happened if Premasutha wasn't doing this deep work.

Like,

It's not like I'm responsible or I did it.

It's just that when you move into truth,

You create a climate around yourself where better things happen for your loved ones.

Right.

And it's so tempting to just keep the phony cultural ways going,

But,

You know,

That Rwanda thing.

I mean,

It's like,

Why would we?

We need to become like the Rwandans.

That's what I feel like.

Instead of,

You know,

These simpler societies,

We're so arrogant.

We think we've got it.

No,

We need to become more like them.

Yeah.

It's a tapestry.

It's more like a tapestry,

You guys.

You weave the tapestry through self-love.

You know,

If you try to fix things,

Like,

Okay,

I'm going to move into truth to fix things,

You know,

Yeah,

It's just that the ego does this.

Lots of times you guys will say,

Well,

Basically,

If you look,

You'll be going,

Okay,

I want to move into truth because I want certain things to happen in my life.

I want my life to get better.

I want these problems to be fixed.

It's much better if you just,

You know,

Decide to move into truth because you're here and it's your job and you want to help not only yourself but humanity.

And as a byproduct of that,

Things will get healed.

Your difficulties will get healed.

You guys,

You're not,

You are figments of your soul's imagination.

You're not real.

So,

I'm looking at you,

And on one level,

You're just a figment of your soul's imagination.

You have no enduring reality.

But when I look at you,

I know that you're eternal souls.

You're the thoughts,

Your eternal soul dreamed up to see the beauty of your own soul.

That's why we're here,

Because our soul gets to see itself.

Right,

Okay,

Good.

Okay,

Actually,

That's so interesting.

That helped you embody a little bit more.

That's why we're here,

So our souls can see who they are through this exercise in the physical.

It's sort of like a potter making a pot.

He has the idea of the pot,

Then he makes it,

And he sees beauty through it,

And he experiences beauty by making it.

Let your minds get much bigger,

You guys.

I mean,

Yeah,

Let them get much bigger.

You know,

My strongest concern about this whole YouTube thing is that people will lose faith in the truth of unconditional love.

This is inconvenient for Pramasutra,

But my biggest thing is,

Oh,

The people who've been following the channels will go,

Oh,

Yeah.

You guys,

We're responsible to our souls.

No one else,

To our souls first.

Krishna left his family.

Was it Krishna?

Buddha.

It was Buddha,

I think,

Who was a prince.

He had a wife,

And he left.

He had to be true to himself.

That is the most important thing.

You be true to yourself,

And then you give from that.

Otherwise,

It's like a shell giving a shell to a shell.

So,

You guys,

On the heels of this,

Please do not feel bad.

Do not go,

I'm not doing it right.

Don't do any of that.

Just know that you got a big blast of unconditional love,

And that you got a little bit of a realignment.

You got invited into a deeper realignment with your true self.

Please know,

You know,

If you go into self-criticism or self-doubt,

Please notice it.

Okay?

Just observe it.

Has anybody got a burning,

Like,

I want to ask a question,

We've got time,

And if you came really hoping that you got time for a question,

You wanted to bring something forward?

I just have something for Susan.

Can you hear me okay?

I had something for Susan.

Okay.

As you were talking,

I was talking about you putting yourself in the arms of God,

And this whole satsang,

I actually,

I'm still in the hall with Amma.

So the whole time,

This whole satsang,

I've been watching Amma on the big screen,

And person after person after person put themselves physically into the arms of God.

Right.

Okay,

Good.

Good.

Yeah.

She's right.

She's right here.

Good.

She's a plane flight away.

If you need any help in finding your way here,

Let me know.

Yeah,

It's really therapeutic for people to go to the bathroom.

Yeah,

It is.

It's a real step into a deeper commitment,

And you just get embraced and loved.

Yeah.

That's beautiful,

Bhavani.

I feel like,

Oh,

This is the whole satsang,

Right?

Amma hugging us all.

Yeah.

Oh,

That's very beautiful.

That's all,

That's all this wants to be is kind of just like an energetic hug and a couple of tips for,

A few tips so you don't waste years,

You guys.

Yeah.

It's very beautiful,

Bhavani.

You've made a shift.

I can feel it.

There's something really juicy about you that's changed.

Juicy.

Even just during the satsang,

Like I meant to go back to the room and have for the satsang,

But there was dancing.

And so I just came off to the side and then joined the satsang and Anjaneya sat and watched the dancing.

I could also watch the dancing,

Very nice.

So I'm here with Amma and she's particularly captivating to me.

And I know that's because something in me has changed.

I feel it.

I feel it very strongly.

So I mentioned,

I mentioned last week,

And actually just without even,

It just kind of happened.

The divorce has been filed.

Yes.

And of course there are emotions and I'll get to that in a moment.

So it's just kind of like,

It's just like taking that step,

But I'm ready to go.

I have not,

Not even told my husband.

I asked for a conversation and he's just,

I'm blocked.

I'm empty.

I can't even think.

I'm like,

I'm not chasing after you.

Either you'll respond to my message for a conversation or you'll get a letter in the mail.

I'm done.

And,

And so yes,

Yesterday it was actually,

I didn't realize friends of ours.

I didn't realize they weren't married.

They've been together for quite some time.

They were getting married yesterday.

And there was a possibility to go off and celebrate that with them.

And I was sitting in the call watching Amma Giptarshan and I just started crying.

And a friend came up and she asked,

You know,

What's going on?

And I said,

Well,

Just filed for divorce.

She said,

This is big.

You need to go to Amma.

I'm like,

Right.

So we did.

So I went and I even,

I gave her the,

I gave her a letter.

So it was read out,

You know,

It was translated for her in Malayalam.

What was going on after asking for her grace,

A couple of things,

You know,

To just kind of get the energy so that it can kind of move through and,

And things can happen.

And,

And she said,

Understand.

And she gave me a banana.

And I enjoyed my divorce banana.

Okay.

She said,

Understand.

She said,

Understand.

Okay,

Good.

That's a really good.

I think,

You know,

I'll just tell you what's coming through Prema Sudha.

That is really important.

Self-understanding,

Self-awareness.

That's your,

That's your focus now.

And that will,

The payoff for it,

Bhavani,

For learning how to live that way.

You,

You,

It's unimaginable for you.

Okay.

Right.

Right.

Right.

It's just one of these pivots.

We see,

Okay,

I can't really continue without allowing self-awareness and self-understanding.

And the understanding of what's,

What happens in my life.

And then when you understand,

It gets,

It's,

It's not,

You become powerful.

The outside events don't hurt so much.

You,

You watch them like a play.

Okay,

Good.

Prema Sudha is unbelievably happy,

Bhavani.

Yeah.

Yeah,

Really.

Yeah,

Sweetie.

Yeah.

My goodness.

It's just,

It's a triumph,

Sweetie.

It's a real triumph.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This satsang has just been exquisite.

It's just been,

You know,

Unbelievable.

Yeah.

Yeah,

Blessings,

You guys.

Oh,

So much love and blessings.

Yeah.

Love.

Yeah.

And see some of you tomorrow.

And thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you for coming.

Bless your dear heart.

Bye.

Bye.