490: From “Yes Girl” To Sovereign Woman With Shannon Yong

In this episode, I’m joined by one of our incredible Adult Chair® Master Coaches, Shannon Yonge. Shannon shares her powerful story of how she went from living life for everyone else, constantly saying yes, ignoring her needs, and feeling disconnected from herself, to reconnecting with her intuition, setting boundaries, and stepping fully into her sovereignty.

This conversation is deeply personal and incredibly relatable. We talk about how tuning into the body can guide us back to our truth, how to break free from people-pleasing, and why learning to say no, without needing to explain, can be so life-changing. Shannon’s journey is such a beautiful example of what becomes possible when we start living from our Adult Chair.

Transcript

Hello,

Hello,

And Merry Christmas,

Everyone.

I hope everyone is having a safe and healthy and happy Christmas and full holiday season.

Today on the show,

We have one of our very own.

It is one of our master coaches,

Shannon Young.

This is a deeply honest and inspiring conversation about what it means and what it looks like and how to come home to yourself.

Shannon shares for years how she lived disconnected from her own needs,

Intuition,

Her inner truth,

While constantly tending to everyone else's.

Like so many of us,

She was a chronic yes girl,

People pleaser,

And peacekeeper,

Unaware that she was abandoning herself in the process.

She opens up about emotional abuse that she experienced in her marriage.

In the moment,

Her intuition fully broke through.

She also talks about how she reclaimed her self-worth and sovereignty and how it led her to rebuild her entire life from the inside out.

Shannon also talks about the surprising ways our bodies speak to us,

How intuition actually works and gentle steps anyone can take to reconnect with themselves.

This is a special,

Special show just for you on this very special holiday.

Enjoy everyone.

Here we go with Shannon Young.

Welcome to the Michelle Chalfant Show.

Shannon.

I'm so glad to be here.

Yeah.

Thank you for having me.

Yeah.

One of our incredible master coaches.

You know,

I was just sharing with you,

It's so fun to have some coaches on to talk about how they have embodied the adult chair and how it's changed their life.

Because something I'm all about is the how to.

And you've done a really,

You've gone through a lot.

You've gone through a lot.

I've gone through a lot,

Rochelle.

And you,

You say that the adult chair helped you to return to yourself and turn on again because it was once on.

Your intuition.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It has been definitely a journey I've been through a lot,

Just like you said.

And the adult chair really has kind of redirected me and guided me back to myself,

My soul,

My intuition so that really I can work with all of those things to be able to live authentically,

You know,

And as my best self,

As who I'm supposed to be,

Right?

Who I was always meant to be,

You know,

And what my purpose always really has been.

But I had to kind of rediscover it.

I have a big whopper of a question for people listening going,

Well,

How do you know?

How did you know you weren't connected to yourself?

Yeah.

Or did you didn't even know?

Yeah.

I would say at first I didn't even know.

Yeah.

But what I realized was that I was looking outside of myself for the answer.

I was looking outside of myself for safety,

For connection,

For,

For answers.

Yeah.

And what I didn't realize is that I had all of those inside of me.

Everyone does.

We all have that inside of us,

You know,

And I was going through life kind of in status quo.

I thought it was my job to please other people so that I can stay connected.

I thought that was authentic connection and I,

And I finally realized that wasn't.

And so the adult chair was like the catalyst that brought me back to my intuition,

To myself so that I could realize,

So that I finally realized that I'd have the answers.

I had the wisdom that I always was looking for from outside of myself,

But it was here.

So yeah.

And what will happen,

What happens to us when we are reconnected to ourself?

What does life look like?

How does it feel differently than when we're disconnected?

It feels calm.

It feels peaceful.

It doesn't feel chaotic.

My life was very chaotic and the people in it were very chaotic.

And what I realized is I was kind of addicted to that chaos.

And it was just kind of,

It was status quo,

But how it feels when you finally connect to yourself.

It's peaceful.

It's easy to,

It's easier to make decisions big and small.

And before I used to really struggle with decision-making and so,

Yeah,

It's,

Yeah.

Tell us a little bit about what your life was like before,

Because I'm sure people will relate to where,

How your life was like before and when you felt,

When you didn't realize that you were disconnected,

But you actually were.

Yeah.

So a lot of my life was,

Was all about everyone else's schedule and everyone else's needs and wants and,

You know,

Their dreams and all of that.

And are you talking like kids,

Husband,

Are you talking about everybody,

Friends,

Family,

Everybody?

Didn't matter.

Their schedule came first before my schedule,

My needs,

My health,

My family,

All the things.

Other was more important.

It was a survival strategy.

What can I say?

It really was,

But that's how I was living.

I was living for everyone else instead of what I truly needed.

And so it might look like,

You know,

Canceling your plans in order to do something else for somebody because you really want them to like you or stay connected,

Or you want to be in that friend group,

Or it could be,

You know,

Canceling your appointment because your kid's soccer game got moved or,

You know,

And there's different ways that we can manage those things instead of abandoning all of what we need to do with that.

I love that.

Yeah.

And,

You know,

I lived in a similar way with codependency and I have to say,

And I think anyone that was codependent or is would relate to this.

We don't even know we're doing that thing.

We don't even know that we shouldn't be canceling our plans.

And again,

Putting the oxygen mask on everyone else before self,

We don't know.

And when people would suggest to me to do it in another way,

I'm like,

That is so selfish.

They're my kids.

Yeah.

It's my mom.

It's my husband.

It's my sister.

No.

You know,

And it wasn't.

And I realized again how,

Like you're saying,

How outside of myself I was living.

And it was uncomfortable at first to travel inward and getting to know that that part of who I really was.

And it was such a looking back,

It's such a beautiful journey now,

But gosh,

No idea back then.

So.

It can be scary.

I mean,

I remember thinking,

Well,

I know what everybody else wants,

But I don't know what I want.

So.

Right.

And I didn't really give myself a chance.

Mm hmm.

You know,

Until I paused long enough and realized the outside,

Me looking outside,

It's just not sustainable.

It's not healthy.

It's not sustainable.

It's not.

It's not being authentic.

And you talk about that when we start traveling inward and connecting to self,

Intuition is amplified.

Tell us a little bit about that.

Mm hmm.

I think when we start to take that look and where we really it's it's like we're tuning in.

Right.

We're tapping in and we're tuning in to what we need.

And I think when we get when we learn how to tap in,

I just being aware of what we need in the moment,

Like maybe it's just a glass of water.

Maybe you're on a road trip.

Maybe you need to stop to use the restroom.

I mean,

It's as simple as those things.

And just tuning in to rate.

You know what?

I'm just aware I need to have some water right now.

I'm just really thirsty.

It starts with just simple things.

And by listening and tuning into those needs.

And then after you start listening,

You start trusting yourself more like,

Yeah,

I do need a glass of water.

It seems so simple.

But then it's like.

Well,

I do need to have like a salad or I do need to I do need to maybe lead this conversation,

You know,

Or leave a room with people in it.

It's not the right place for you.

Leave a relationship.

It it informs you of the things that you that are best for you.

In a way that gentle and kind and I want to say peaceful,

Not in a I mean,

I'm sure you can vouch for this,

But your intuition is never going to yell at you.

Never.

No.

Ever.

Well,

Sometimes it's stern.

I think about intuition,

Like certainly there's a gut instinct,

Right,

That we have.

But then there's the soul and the spirit guys that actually are talking to us.

And I find sometimes there's a sternness,

Never mean,

Never fearful,

Never fearful.

But there is a stop it.

I remember one day I was having I was lost in some story,

Like my head just kept going like I was in that instant replay sort of story that was not healthy for me.

And I literally was in the shower.

No joke.

And I heard the words stop it.

I said that I was like,

It was like I said,

Stop it.

And I was like,

Oh,

Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Because I'm lost in my head right now and and it's making me very anxious.

This story and I couldn't stop it.

And then I did.

But yeah,

I agree with you.

It's not mean.

It's not angry.

It's not fearful.

It's not forceful.

No.

Well,

Just stern.

And I love how,

You know,

That that voice just made you pause and go,

You know,

So you were being really aware of what was,

You know,

You were listening,

You were tuning in.

Right.

Yeah.

And I think that is so it's so important.

And until we're really aware that we can do that,

That inner voice,

That inner wisdom intuition that we have,

It's always there.

It's never going to steer us wrong.

You know,

And people would say,

If they're listening,

Well,

I'm just and I have after having clients for so many years,

They'd say to me,

Well,

I'm just easygoing.

I don't need to go where I want to go to dinner.

I can go with the crowd.

I'm easygoing like that.

No,

No,

No.

No,

There's easygoing.

Like if the whole entire crowd of people that you're with,

They all want to go to an Italian restaurant and you're the only one that doesn't.

That's a different story.

But if if they're asking,

Hey,

Everyone,

Where do you all want to go to dinner?

And if you don't even put your vote in and say,

I want Asian tonight,

I want to go get some sushi.

That's a problem.

And I found working with people when I would say to them,

Hey,

What is your favorite food?

And I and so many people,

Shannon would say to me,

You know,

I just go with wherever the crowd wants.

Remember,

Wherever my family goes.

I'm really good with it.

Yeah.

But what's your favorite?

I don't know.

I kind of like pizza sometimes.

Yeah.

You know,

It's very brushing.

You brush it off.

I'm like,

No,

We got to start claiming who we are.

Right.

Like,

What was that journey like for you?

And I know you exited a long relationship with your husband,

But it took building up self-worth.

Are you would like to talk a little bit about that?

Because that was sure that was a that was a that was a journey.

And then the recovery from that.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's been a road for sure.

Yeah.

I think it was a little bit about that.

It was an abusive relationship and emotionally abusive.

And and I finally I think there were a few different kind of catalysts for that.

And but I remember getting to the point of.

I I don't deserve to be treated like this now.

And it was like a light went on,

Like I couldn't be asleep to it anymore.

That's what it was like.

Yeah.

And so it was like the light switched on and I was like,

No one should be treated like this.

And I can't be treated like this anymore.

It was literally I was being,

You know,

Even my breathing was not right.

And I'm not exaggerating.

That was at the dinner table one one evening,

My children around at the dinner table.

And I was criticized for how I was breathing.

Oh,

You were criticized for how I was criticized for how were you breathing?

I was just breathing.

Wow.

OK,

So it didn't.

Yeah.

So there were lots of other things that if I could not even breathe at the dinner table with my family,

I just thought,

I mean,

My head must have spun around and gone,

What are you even talking about?

But I but I think once I had that light switched on and different things started happening in that relationship that I was noticing differently and and that really the catalyst where it was,

I found out there was betrayal in more than 20 ways.

And and that was really the thing that delivered me out of that relationship.

And but trusting my intuition in that moment,

There were moments that I felt like that's when I discovered my sovereignty.

I remember standing in front of him and telling him that I didn't like what he had chosen,

But that I get to write the next chapter.

That's why on my website,

Like it's your turn to write the next chapter,

Because I get that I get what it's like.

You don't have to have anyone else write it for you.

You get to write it.

And so it was it was one of those moments in your life that's super pivotal.

And I remember I wasn't I was almost whispering,

But my feet were so grounded,

Like.

In that moment,

Just really telling him what he didn't get to do anymore.

Yeah.

And give me an example of what he wasn't allowed to do anymore.

I didn't have to go along with what he was doing anymore and make his life really,

Really easy.

Yeah.

Any longer.

Yeah.

And so I was choosing me in that moment.

Really.

Beautiful.

Coming back to myself.

Yeah.

Beautiful.

Wow.

So for someone that's listening to this right now,

And maybe they're in a relationship and they're not even sure if their intuition is talking to them or what's happening with that.

They might not have ever even thought about the idea of,

Am I connected to myself or outside of self?

Right.

How would we or how would you suggest that they start to do that?

How?

Give me some ideas.

What are some steps that they can take to start to reconnect to self,

To that intuition that.

So just be aware of how your body is feeling.

Mm hmm.

Just be aware.

Like when you're making decisions,

You know,

Oftentimes my stomach used to really hurt all the time.

Yeah.

Because I was making decisions that did not align with who I authentically am.

And I became aware of that.

And so I would just say,

Tune in,

Tune into what your body's telling you.

Your body's not going to lie,

Tell you the truth.

Your body keeps the score,

Right?

Yeah.

And so really tune in what's going on.

You know,

Just a body scan,

Start at the top of your head,

Slowly down all the way to your feet.

Mm hmm.

See what's going on when you make decisions,

You know,

Or if you're put in certain situation,

What do you feel like?

Just notice,

Just become aware and listen to what your body's saying.

Does it want you to stay?

Does it want you to leave?

Does it want you to say something?

And staying and leaving might just be leave the room,

Not even leave the whole relationship.

It might be leave the relationship,

But it might be you need to step outside for a moment.

You need to step in the other room or you need to step away.

And love this.

Yeah,

It's it's getting curious and pausing and shifting the focus inside instead of always being out there.

Because gosh knows,

Like our body,

It will speak.

It will speak.

It will absolutely speak to us.

Yeah.

And it'll tell us in many,

Many different ways until we get it.

Mm hmm.

Right.

Yeah.

And yeah,

I mean,

My body spoke to me not just in stomach aches,

But in lots of different ways,

In migraine headaches and.

Really?

So you don't get migraines anymore?

Very rarely.

Very,

Very rarely.

Maybe once a year.

And how often?

Yeah.

What about before?

In that relationship,

When I was in my marriage,

I was probably getting them at least twice a month.

Wow.

At least.

At least twice a month.

Maybe once a year?

Yeah,

Maybe.

And I would even wonder if the once a year is because your body is still flushing out the old trauma.

I mean,

Who knows?

I'm making it up.

Yeah,

It usually happens around like a certain part of the moon cycle.

Yeah.

Which again is a full moon flushes out the old stuff.

And that's the other thing we're so unaware of.

It's like,

What about the moon stuff?

And anyway,

That's a whole other conversation.

We could go off on a tangent over there,

But.

We could.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

But I'd say listen to your body and just be aware.

No judgment,

Just curiosity.

Yeah.

And just pay attention,

Start to listen and trust it.

Right?

By us starting to listen to it,

We're building that trust with ourselves.

Right?

So important.

So important.

And building that trust and trusting that our body is telling us the truth.

Like,

You just need to leave this room.

Just take a break.

Go outside.

You know,

Take a nice big breath.

You know,

Sit on the grass.

You know,

Go put water on your face in the restroom.

You know,

Whatever it is,

Just start listening.

Yeah.

And trusting.

I know just teaching some courses on intuition.

People always ask,

Well,

How do you know?

I'm like,

You just go with it in the beginning.

Just go with it.

Just go with whatever's coming to you.

And remember,

Like we were just talking about,

It's not going to come from fear.

It's not going to be mean.

Never,

Ever,

Ever,

Ever.

Will it be mean?

But listen.

And it oftentimes whispers.

It oftentimes whispers.

Yeah.

And sometimes it might not even really make sense.

You don't know why you're going to do it.

Yeah.

Like,

I remember when I first started tuning in.

And I was walking in the park.

And I'm walking in the park.

And it was just a small voice.

And it said,

Pick up that piece of trash.

The trash?

I'm like,

Where?

And I am not kidding you.

It was a piece of trash that was probably an inch.

Wow.

And it was like a gum wrapper or something.

I mean,

In the park.

And there's like no trash can anywhere.

And so I'm like,

Really?

I mean,

I was arguing with it.

Like,

Really?

You want me to pick up trash?

I'm like,

Okay.

Because I was practicing.

Listening.

Listening.

And so I did.

And I'll tell you that that week or for the next two weeks,

On every walk,

I would hear,

Pick up the piece of trash.

Wow.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

And so sometimes it makes sense.

But I just trusted it and did it.

And there's no harm in picking up trash.

And then you started building a relationship with that intuition.

I just started trusting it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that's the hardest part for people.

I don't know if I can trust that voice.

Well,

The more you pause and listen,

The more you can trust it,

Right?

Absolutely.

Mm-hmm.

And I think,

I mean,

When I was just learning how to trust it again,

I had to make some really big decisions in my life.

I was divorcing the person I had been with for 27 years.

Wow.

And trying to make a new life for myself after I'd been a stay-at-home mom for 20.

And I'd been out of my career for that long,

20 years.

Mm-hmm.

And so where do I even go?

How do I even make a life?

And I heard the name of a town,

And I just trusted it.

And long story short is,

I got online and I looked in that town,

And the first house that popped up,

I started to cry.

Oh,

Wow.

I know.

And that's where I'm talking to you from,

From that house.

I made an offer the next day,

Bought the house.

Wow.

And trusted.

Wow.

I didn't know anybody in this town,

The town.

I'd never lived,

It's a different state,

Different town.

Had you ever heard of that town?

No.

Mm-mm.

Wow.

No,

Never heard of it.

Wow.

Yeah.

It just feels like such a healing house that you're in.

Yeah,

I think of it as a little nest.

Yeah,

Yeah.

You know,

Everybody needs a nest to kind of heal in and something to come home to.

Yeah.

And it's,

It's wild,

But it's,

It is a beautiful home.

A beautiful home.

Yeah.

Anything I've ever wanted.

Yeah.

Except for a water view,

But that's coming.

Water and mountains,

They will come.

This,

This just sounds like such an,

It sounds like such an empowered move,

You know?

Yeah.

It,

It was probably one of the most empowering things I've ever done for myself.

Yeah.

Wow.

Thank you for that story.

It was beautiful.

So you talked about from chronic,

We were talking earlier about from chronic.

Yes,

Girl to confident boundaries.

And you were saying yes to everything.

How do you,

How do you,

How would you,

How did you do that?

Like someone that didn't set boundaries before?

Like,

What was your journey like around that?

I,

You know,

I was the,

I was the chronic yes,

Girl.

Yes,

I'll do it.

Yes,

I will bring something to the birthday party.

Yes,

I will bring,

You know.

Yes,

I'll correct all those papers.

Oh my gosh.

I was the teacher's favorite.

You know,

My kids teacher favorite because I had a teaching background and I just said,

Yeah,

I did not know how to say no.

But when I said yes,

Resentment followed.

Wow.

Yeah,

Of course.

Right.

When we,

When we over yes,

Everything.

Yeah,

For sure.

Of course.

The chronic yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so that resentment would pop in and I just had this bad attitude all the time about doing these things.

And I'm like,

My life got to the point where I just couldn't do that anymore.

And I was actually,

I was still married,

Still in that relationship and that was getting really difficult.

And so I needed to start saying no so that I could have some,

I needed some boundaries around my yes.

So that I could say yes to trying to figure out my marriage,

Which really wasn't going to be figured out.

Well,

It was,

But the kind of the way it was figured out was for me to exit that marriage.

And so I had to say no to all of those things so I could figure that out.

We only have so much energy in a day.

Yeah.

You've got to get back to you.

Yeah.

And I really learned that,

You know,

As I did the work of the adult chair,

It's really,

If it's not a hell yes,

It's a no.

True.

And so my chronic yeses changed and I learned how to say no.

Period.

And I started to not explain myself because.

Ooh.

Right?

Because I,

I know.

Mm-hmm.

I was the girl that got caught in the weeds all the time.

Mm-hmm.

That when I said no,

I needed to have a backup plan.

Yeah.

Like,

Why was it no?

And what did,

What did I need to do,

You know,

Instead?

And I was,

I was really hustling for my worth in that no.

Mm-hmm.

I still wanted to stay connected to that person.

Please don't not like me because I'm saying no to you.

But I learned that my worth is just is.

It just is.

Yeah.

Period.

And I don't need to explain myself.

And I don't,

If I need to say no,

I need to say no.

Yeah.

And there will be times when I can say yes,

But it's got to be right for me.

Yeah.

Right?

Ooh,

That's good.

How do you uncover the wound beneath people pleasing?

Mm-hmm.

I think by using your model.

It just,

You know,

It has this beautiful way of uncovering where that wound is.

Mm-hmm.

In the most gentle,

Most compassionate way.

And I,

That's what I love about the adult chair model is that when you use your curiosity and you're like,

Oh,

I wonder why I'm doing this.

You know,

I have this pattern of,

You know,

Pleasing everyone else.

And well,

Why am I doing that?

Just be curious about it.

And it's usually,

You know,

For me,

It was all about a younger part of me that needed some attention and it might look like,

You know,

When we have,

We're trying to please somebody,

I don't know,

Say our parents.

Mm-hmm.

Even as an adult.

Mm-hmm.

I still want to please my mom has been gone,

But my dad.

And there's still stuff there from when I was a little kid.

And so just going back and almost reparenting that little,

That little kid inside of me and finding out where that wound was,

What was the thing that happened?

Mm-hmm.

Oh,

It was on,

It was your 12th birthday and you didn't get to pick where you went to dinner.

I mean,

It could be so it's like that kind of,

You just find what it is and it might,

You might not even realize what a big deal it was when you were 12.

But that thing at 12 is still affecting you at 55.

Yep.

Right?

Yes,

It is.

Yeah.

So I,

So the model does such a beautiful kind of,

I want to say exploration because it's not,

It's an excavation,

But it's,

It's in such a gentle way,

More of an exploration of those parts of us where we can come alongside and meet right where they are,

Whether it's 12 or seven or younger.

Right.

And reparent ourselves,

Find out where that wound is,

And then really pay attention to that younger part of us and provide for that younger part now that we're an adult.

Oh,

That's good.

I like that a lot.

Thank you.

Really good.

You're welcome.

It's so true.

The parts work that we do in the adult chair model,

It's a little,

It's unique.

I mean,

It's not really like,

It's similar to some other ones out there,

But I do love that,

The reparenting aspect that we do.

Because it does go back and for lack of a better word,

Like clean up,

Reparent those younger parts,

But clean up.

And it's funny you said excavation,

Because that's what I feel like that we're doing is going back and going in and excavating,

But it is an exploratory experience where we do get to reparent and help these parts grow up healthy.

And it's so fascinating to me,

Because one thing can happen,

One little thing can happen with us.

And it sets the tone,

It's a clays that roadmap for the rest of our lives.

And we don't know that that one little thing that my mother said to me that one day is truly laid the foundation for how I'm going to live the rest of my life.

I'm going to choose my partner,

My friends,

My job,

What my self-worth is all about.

It's just crazy.

Yeah.

Do you want to talk about your yes gals?

Yeah,

I think there's,

You know,

Me being a chronic yes girl in my past life.

Yes.

No,

A little something about those yes gals.

And I just,

You know,

It's,

I want to say there's nothing wrong with being a yes girl,

Unless it's not working for you.

And when you're giving yourself away,

And I mean by serve,

There's there's a point,

This isn't about,

You know,

By serving your community,

But we're doing it and doing it at your detriment.

Yes.

We never want to do things out of our detriment.

We need to take care of ourselves.

We do.

We're just like you said,

Put on the oxygen mask first,

Right?

Yes.

Yes.

We've got to,

In order to love our people well,

In order to take care of ourselves,

Our people,

We've got to take care of ourselves.

Period.

And so all those yes gals out there,

You know.

The yes gals club.

Totally is.

And I want them to know that it's okay to need something for themselves.

We are all needy because we're human.

Needy isn't a bad thing.

No.

Right?

We're all needy and.

It's healthy to have needs.

It's healthy.

Yeah.

Even like you said earlier,

I have the need,

Like,

I think I need a glass of water.

I think I want a salad.

I think I need a nap.

Give yourself the nap.

Yeah.

Give yourself permission to be needy.

It's given you're given ourselves permission and really changing the frame and the perspective that it's not bad.

It's not a bad thing.

It's just a human.

Right.

And so I think part of that yes girl mentality,

At least from my when I was kind of in that pattern was that I thought I did think it was bad.

To have me didn't want to be needy,

But everybody else could.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

And so I think we all deserve to have our needs met.

We're all allowed to have those things.

Yeah.

Go ahead.

We just are.

And until we kind of notice and until we really believe that we're worth.

Right.

That we're worth taking care of,

That we're worth dreaming,

That we're worth,

You know,

Saying no so that we can say the hell yes to ourselves.

I think that it's we've got to get there.

And so part of what I do is I want my client to be able to say no to the things that they've said yes to in order to have a false connection.

I want them to learn that that that's not an authentic connection.

That it's okay to stand in who they are and say no without explaining themselves and give themselves the thing that they need.

You've spoken before with me about sovereignty.

Talk a little bit about that.

What does that mean?

That's a word that's thrown around quite a bit these days.

It's a popular word this year,

I think.

Yeah.

And it's an important word,

Actually.

Super important.

It's one of my favorite ones.

But I think when we can embody sovereignty,

It's really the moment that we stand our ground.

When we know who we are.

Yeah.

And we know we know it without a doubt.

We know that we're connected to source,

To divine,

To God,

Whatever you want to all the time,

24 hours unending.

And that we can stand in that power.

I want to define it.

I just Googled it here.

It's the self-governing state.

It's like when we take over and make the decision to have sovereignty is that we've made the decision to really guide our own selves and guide our lives in that way.

And I think especially as women,

We just haven't claimed that.

We haven't done great with that.

What's okay with you and what's not okay with you?

And if it's not okay,

That's a need.

Speak up.

Yeah.

Speak up about it,

Right?

It's okay to say that it's not okay with you.

Yeah,

It's totally okay.

Yeah.

And I think,

I mean,

If I'm,

You know,

I can look back on my life and there were so many times when things were not okay with me and I said nothing.

Right?

I don't do that anymore.

Good girl.

And I love that,

You know,

Like you were reading the definition.

It's finding that power within to stand your ground and to say what you need to say.

If it's right or if it's wrong or whatever it is,

You get to use your voice how you need to.

And so I think it's really embodying all of that.

I don't know.

I think of two feet planted right on the ground and kind of,

You know,

Your hands on your hips and kind of like Joan of Arc.

I don't know.

Or let's just embody that,

You know?

Yeah,

I love that.

I love that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So,

I mean,

Yeah.

So that would be.

I don't know.

I love that word sovereignty,

But I think women more and more right now are starting to feel that call.

I think so,

Too.

It's an inner call.

It's within us.

And I think the more women that step into that and claim our sovereignty,

The more other women it's like it's like what's the word reverberates out of us.

It's like it's like we become tuning forks for other women around us.

So they can feel even men.

So they can feel it,

Too.

You know?

Yeah.

Even our children.

Right.

Anyone.

Anyone that's around you will start to feel that.

That's power.

Oh,

I love it.

OK.

Wow.

This was good.

Anything else you want to share?

Oh,

My goodness.

Yes,

Gals.

Yeah,

That was a good one.

So much better on the other side.

When you learn how to say no,

Period,

You know.

It does change your life.

It absolutely does.

It really does.

Yeah.

And we also along the way have to just remember that it's a journey.

It's not overnight.

And we have to learn how to get comfortable in the uncomfortableness.

And the uncomfortableness is going to come up.

But don't you find that the uncomfortableness that rises when we say no,

When we stop saying yes to everything,

It starts to dissipate.

It's like all of a sudden like,

Oh,

In the beginning it's uncomfortable.

Then it's not so uncomfortable.

Yeah.

It might be uncomfortable because it's new.

Exactly.

It doesn't mean you're doing it wrong.

Yeah.

Right.

Exactly.

My little Birkenstocks sometimes are uncomfortable.

But I first get them and,

Man,

They're the most comfortable shoes after you wear them a few times.

Yeah.

It's no different than a new pair of shoes.

Oh,

My gosh.

Thank you.

This was so good.

Thank you so much for being with us today.

I appreciate you.

You're so welcome.

Thank you.

Love you,

Babe.

Love you,

Too.

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