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Energetic Protection For Starseeds And Lightworkers

by Liz Findlay

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A guest on Marysol Ximenez-Carrillo’s Talk-Series, I share techniques I use and teach for energetic protection. These techniques are especially helpful for sensitive people like Starseeds and Lightworkers. Many have the tendency to pick up on energies around them and be susceptible to psychic attacks, and so I share some of my experiences along with ways to clear and protect one's energy fields. See my Express Grounding & Protecting Morning Meditation on my profile for further support.

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Transcript

Hello and welcome everyone to the third episode of Be In This World But Not Of It,

With the topic energetic protection for lightworkers and starseeds.

My name is Marisol,

I'm a singer and an intuitive sound and energy healer and I have the great honor to be talking with the wonderful Liz Findlay today from Liz Findlay Healing.

She offers multifaceted healing for animals and people.

So welcome Liz and thank you so much for being here with us today.

Thanks so much for having me.

Yes,

Thank you so much and we're going to dive into the topic of energetic protection,

Which I think is very relevant in these times.

And why don't we start by you telling us a little bit about what you do exactly and how you came to your own path of working in the field of healing.

So in short,

I help people and animals with any sort of trauma or life challenges and I use my lovely pendulum a lot within the healing sessions.

I also do remote hands-on healing when that's relevant.

And I clear energetic blocks and programs,

Agreements,

All of that.

But how I came to all of this and it's actually been a journey of many,

Many years.

I mean,

I started seeing a healer in my teens and it's been a slow process of a nice gentle awakening,

Not always gentle at times.

But it was really in 2010 that I did my first Reiki course and this is what started setting me on a much quicker path of getting on my sole mission.

So I had endometriosis where the blood lining of the uterus grows outside the uterus around other organs in the body.

And I had extensive surgery at the beginning of 2008 and it was predicted that I would need the same surgery every two years indefinitely.

And so in 2010,

I did my first Reiki course and in between Reiki one and two,

You have to give yourself Reiki every day.

And I did this and I flew back to South Africa for a checkup and my surgeon had no medical explanation for why it was under control and I didn't need further surgery.

And he actually even pointed his finger at me and said,

I don't know what you're doing,

But you keep doing it.

And so,

Yeah,

That was just incredible.

And that showed me this really does work.

And so I did Reiki two and I've just been doing loads of courses ever since then.

But I was still working in the property world and I needed to take a huge leap of faith to finally give it up.

I reached burnout.

So that was a good reason to leave.

And I started my own business doing all of this.

And I lived there in 2016.

So yeah,

I just keep adding more tools to my toolbox and I keep changing and amending and tweaking what I do for what suits me in this current moment.

And I'd say through everything that I say today,

I just like to reiterate,

Find what works for you in this moment.

And don't worry about changing techniques,

Procedures,

Ways of doing things to suit you as you learn and you grow more.

Because the grounding and protecting that I do now is a bit different to what I was doing five and even 10 years ago.

And I just keep evolving as I go.

Yeah,

I think that's also in with these healing modalities.

And when we dive in deeper and open up deeper levels in ourselves,

That's what I find.

Like you said,

Things will change,

It will go in deeper,

You learn new techniques,

Or you find new levels of healing,

And it evolves as you grow.

And I think that's a beautiful process.

Exactly.

And I think for a lot of the starseeds who are listening to this,

And to a large extent lightworkers as well as you are activating and remembering gifts from other lifetimes.

And that's wonderful.

But what I've also found is the more I get on the path,

And the more I get out there,

The more I feel psychic attack and energetic interference.

I think it's,

It's part of if you want to call it the dark kind of saying,

No,

No,

We'll have none of that.

There's a bright shining star seed,

Let's squash her before she wakes up to inspires too many people.

So yeah,

I've definitely have to ramp things up the more I've been getting out there.

And I'd say,

I didn't feel a lot of energetic interference,

So I wasn't aware of it.

Even say 10 years ago,

I had my first significant and memorable experience back in 2017.

And I was on a course and it was somebody from the course who was psychically attacking me,

But I didn't know.

Oh,

Okay.

And it took months for me to figure it out.

And I think this is a beauty of any experience.

Yes,

It can be rough.

And we don't really want to learn through challenge.

But sometimes we need to so that you can recognize it later because now instead of whatever it is,

Seven months or 10 months that it took me to figure it out with the help of other people.

Now,

If I experienced psychic attack,

To any degree,

Especially that degree,

It's within a few hours that I pick it up myself.

Because I recognize and I can deal with it myself or if it if I do need some help,

I'm lucky that my partner works in this kind of field as well.

Call on his help.

But you know that that first experience,

I had no idea what it was,

I didn't realize it was psychic attack.

I actually thought there was something possibly wrong with my physical body.

I just I lost.

I think it was seven kilograms within about seven months.

In total,

I just dropped,

I think 10 kilograms.

And each time I went back to the course,

Because we they were modules,

We have people with at first it was like,

Oh,

You're looking great.

And then it slowly progressed through the modules of lizard,

You're right,

You know,

And it was like,

I'm not and I don't know.

And it took some,

Some friends from a retreat,

Who helped me join the dots and put the pieces together.

When did this first start happening?

Because I just couldn't face food,

You know.

And what was happening is this woman,

I don't think she was doing this consciously,

I have to just put that out there.

She was living in a place of fear herself.

And I don't know why,

But she called it into me into my solar plexus and started pumping all of her fear into me.

Yeah.

And I just I always felt so nauseous.

And you know,

Even looking at food,

I was just so nauseous at the thought of eating food that I was really just living off fruit.

That was the one thing I could could stomach.

Yeah,

But yeah,

As I say,

I've now learned all of these techniques that it takes me maybe two to four hours to figure it out.

Actually,

The other day.

And I,

I think this is important for starseeds and lightworkers to understand is that you can get psychic attack,

It's not always just somebody sitting there thinking about you and sending bad thoughts.

That's one way of getting psychic attack.

Or even in your presence,

Sending sort of energetic daggers towards you.

But another way is even through electronic devices through modes of communication,

Even social media.

So I was doing work the other day,

I was doing an admin day.

And I suddenly started getting such brain fog,

A headache,

I was feeling lethargic and heavy.

And I was thinking,

You know,

Those,

These are some of the symptoms of psychic attack and what's going on.

And I couldn't figure out where it was coming from or what it was.

But then I suddenly got an intuitive message to check my internet browser.

So I got my pendulum.

And I just literally pointed to each browser.

And I was asking my pendulum to please show me which one it is.

And it was Facebook.

And so I messaged my partner.

And I said,

Because he was experiencing something similar.

And I said,

It's Facebook,

Check Facebook.

And he then told me of a certain person to check on Facebook.

Now,

I'm not friends with this person.

This person wasn't messaging me,

This person wasn't commenting on any of my posts.

There was no interaction on Facebook.

But I found this person,

And I blocked them.

And it just stopped it all lifted.

Yeah,

Yeah,

It's it's amazing from what area it can come.

That we might not even suspect it.

Yeah.

Yeah,

From all sorts.

And so I,

I really encourage everyone to do a morning grounding and protecting exercise or routine or whatever you want to call it a little meditation.

And it doesn't have to be long.

It doesn't mean that you've got to wake up half an hour early or anything.

I can do a very quick version for myself if I'm strapped for time and just like five minutes.

You don't have to close your eyes.

Sometimes I do a mixture of closing my eyes and keeping my eyes open.

And I,

I even instruct things to happen.

So instead of talking myself through a meditation,

That's great if you can listen to meditation,

But I will even just say,

You know,

I call on this,

I do that.

And I just do it very quickly,

Boom,

Boom,

Boom,

And it's done,

You know,

Ground into the crystalline grid,

And I draw the energy up.

And so if really all you have is five minutes,

I encourage it.

And I've got a great story for how I know this works.

And look,

My meditation is not foolproof.

I'll just put it out there.

It's ever evolving.

I do have a meditation.

It's called Express morning grounding and protecting meditation.

It's on YouTube,

SoundCloud and Insight Timer.

If you want,

You can use that as a base,

And then tweak it to form your own,

You can pick out elements that resonate with you.

Listen to mine,

Listen to somebody else's listen to a group of people.

And you find the elements that resonate with you now.

And that can change.

Because what I'm doing right now in my morning practice,

If you want to call it is a bit different to what that meditation is.

Elements are still similar,

But I've changed a few things up.

And I've added a few things in.

So at some point,

I might record another one to give a few options.

And it's very important to go with what you feel is right in the moment and not what somebody else feels is right.

It's all about what resonates with you.

And I mean,

One example is when I was a teenager,

And the healer I went to said,

Send your roots down into the ground you anchoring,

Because I was lying on my back,

I just automatically felt and visualize roots along the whole length of my body.

So even from my head,

My back,

My hips down my legs.

And at some point,

I was told,

I don't think it was by her,

I think it was by somebody else.

No,

The roots are only from the soles of your feet.

And I thought,

Oh,

I've been doing this wrong.

And so I just started doing it from the soles of my feet only.

Yes.

And just recently,

I thought,

You know what,

In certain situations,

I need to do the whole length of my body like I intuitively experienced as a team.

So it's not always relevant,

But sometimes I do that.

So go with whatever feels right for you.

So how I know some form of morning grounding and protecting helps at least even if it's not foolproof is I was on a course last year.

And I diligently did my morning and grounding and protecting before the course.

I do it even before I turn my mobile phone or cell phone or flight mode every morning.

And I was on this course with a friend who kind of felt like,

Well,

I've been doing that for years,

I don't need to do it quite as diligently as,

As you,

Somebody on the course had an entity.

And I didn't quite understand what was going on with her,

But I did know that I wanted to stop working with her.

I didn't enjoy it.

I didn't like it.

She did cry a number of times.

And I'm usually a very empathic person.

If somebody's crying,

I will see if they need any,

Any kind of help or support or what,

Even just a tissue.

But for her,

It was feeling very irritating and I needed to get away.

And I couldn't explain why.

Anyway,

She ended up working with my friend and my friend did not have a very good experience.

Again,

She,

She went off crying and my friend didn't understand what was going on.

And my friend gradually became quite lethargic.

And after the course we were chatting,

My friend asked,

Can I check if they've picked up an entity?

And sure enough,

There was an entity inside my friend.

And I said,

Well,

You better check me because we checked it was from this,

This lady.

What had happened is I'd walked away with rips and tears to my auric field because the entity was trying to get inside,

But there was enough protection to kind of,

You know,

Ward it off for time being.

Look,

I think if we'd had an extended course,

It probably would have got through my protection because like I said,

Right,

It's,

It's layers.

It's,

It's not a hundred percent foolproof and they could be going something going on with me that I could allow such an interaction.

It's a great learning opportunity.

I will admit,

But because my friend had done absolutely no kind of protection,

It just hopped right in.

So anyway,

We did a procedure,

Got,

Got rid of it and it's gone,

But my friend is now of the opinion.

Yes,

Actually some form of grounding and protection is useful.

Yes,

Absolutely.

And I think what you said is really,

Really good and valid that everybody should really check in with themselves and see what do I need and take that self responsibility and not to depend on someone on the outside.

This is how it's supposed to be.

So of course,

Like you said,

Use your meditation or someone else's to see how you can get into it,

What works for me,

But always have that sense of what do I need and how is it working for me and tune into yourself and,

And find your own path for that.

You can even change it up day to day.

Like I work with electric blue fire.

It's great for burning through any sort of lower vibrational projections towards you and psychic attack,

Things like that.

And then I also think unconditional love and I've heard a lot of people,

They don't actually use layers of protection at all.

They just surround themselves with unconditional love because,

And I do believe this,

That,

You know,

Love transforms all.

I'm not at the point yet or currently,

Or maybe now,

I don't know that I can just vibrate with love.

I think I feel too much of the collective as well.

And I'm on my own journey,

Just getting myself forward that I can't only use love.

I did give it a try and it didn't work 100% for me that I think until such time as I'm,

I'm really vibrating rainbows and butterflies.

I need to have these other layers in place.

But what I've been doing is changing it up day to day.

Like sometimes I will put a layer of unconditional love right around me because I'm needing that comforting.

Other times I actually put it right on the outside of all the layers of protection because I want to enter the world and for people to feel the love.

If I'm feeling a bit vulnerable or if there are things going on,

I might actually put the electric blue fire on the outside.

So I change up the layers of where they come in.

And then I even ask my higher self to upgrade the layers.

Because what I think might be working right now,

My higher self might have another idea.

Yeah,

And it's a great way to also be creative,

You know,

And practice really tuning into your intuition.

What is the image I'm getting today?

What are the energies that I need?

What protection do I need today?

Yeah,

Exactly today.

And I do think so what I was taught with Reiki is that you can connect to Reiki anytime,

Anywhere.

And yes,

You can.

But what I've since learned is that it is good to bring an element of this grounding and protecting before you connect to any kind of healing energies like that before you open yourself up.

And so yes,

I was initially told,

You know,

I used to live in London.

So I'd use a London transport buses underground,

You know,

That literally you can even do Reiki on a bus and I did.

So within that time in between my Reiki level one and two giving myself Reiki every day,

There were times when I'd be sitting on a bus,

And I would just connect to Reiki and give it to my abdomen,

Which I think really helped with endometriosis.

And it worked.

But I really think now I would encourage people to be in a stationary place,

Not a moving vehicle.

Although if need be,

You can I'm sure in a moving vehicle,

It could help for car sickness with kids or whatever.

But where you can try be in a room in a quiet room and set up the space.

Now I was initially taught that you can put Reiki symbols into the corners of the rooms.

And I did this,

But it didn't really resonate with me.

And this is why I think with it was any practice with any technique,

Always go with what resonates with you and find your own way,

Use what you're taught as a basis,

A nice grounding,

And then,

You know,

Shake it up,

Tweak it,

Do what you need to.

So I like to bring energetic protection into all of the walls.

And if I am using Reiki symbols,

I draw it into the middle of the walls,

Not the corners.

But I also then started adding in ceiling and floor.

Yeah.

Because you're not always just in your own house,

Maybe,

Or some people might live in apartment blocks.

So you've got somebody living above you,

Somebody living below you,

And you don't need their energies interfering.

And so that's why I do always bring I use the Reiki symbols a bit less now setting up the rooms,

But more so like gold light from Metatron and things like that.

And I always include walls,

Even doors,

Windows,

Things like that.

Yeah,

I do the same.

Also,

What you say golden walls and floor have that safe space.

And I sometimes it's like golden light symbols also flowing through like translucently,

You know?

Oh,

Yeah,

Because you work with light language.

Yeah.

So I have that for the protection sometimes too.

I'll see like streams of codes or something coming in with this light that then fills the room and seals everything basically.

Wow,

That's so beautiful.

Yeah.

Well,

I mean,

The Reiki symbols are,

I mean,

They are symbols and they are 3D as well.

So on some of my Reiki webinars,

I do tell people that you can,

You can draw the symbols and step into them.

So I wonder to some extent if your light language or light language that anyone channels,

If it can be visualized as 3D and,

You know,

Step into it.

Yes,

Absolutely.

I think there is no limits to this.

So if you receive an image of a symbol of any kind or with this light language is when I sing it,

It's like a vibration,

But I'll also have internal images of codes.

So I mean,

If you see an image or a symbol that's very 3D to you,

You can like,

I mean,

Imagine it,

Envision it getting bigger,

You know,

Stepping into it,

Enveloping you.

I mean,

The possibilities are endless.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And to just play around and see what works and what doesn't work.

That's the thing,

To play around.

I think not to be too,

I'm missing the word.

Rigid.

Yeah,

Too rigid about it.

Thank you.

And to have that playfulness because the more playful we are and step out of that linear way of thinking,

We open up to this multidimensional connection that we have,

The beings that we are.

And this information can flow much more,

More easily.

And I think then also keeping the vibe high.

So what I'm needing to do is really limit the amount of lower vibrational information I expose myself to really even set myself up energetically with protection when I'm going to receive it,

Watch any sort of truth videos out there or whatever.

So I don't look at the news at all because it just brings my energy down.

And I kind of get an image of,

I set up a lovely sphere around me,

Kind of like if you've watched X-Men,

You know how Jean Grey has that sphere around her when nothing can touch her.

Yeah.

So I kind of visualize that.

But when there's anything that gets me down,

Upsets me that I find traumatic,

Even if it's just some kind of news or even movies,

I tried to watch a comedy recently and there was so much violence within the comedy that I really thought,

You know what,

I need to just stick to movies like The Wedding Singer with Drew Barrymore,

You know,

Just like things where there's no violence whatsoever.

Because I see this sphere around me that it kind of distorts and I'm not able to keep it in place and functioning optimally when I'm feeling down in any way or there's anything disturbing my peace.

And so,

Look,

I do try to educate myself and watch a lot of these videos,

Especially these truth videos that are coming out on platforms like Rumble and BitChute.

I think it is important to educate myself with those things,

But I have to do it in measured doses so that I can still keep this energetic protection around me.

Because there was one time where I did do a bit of a marathon and I really felt the effects and I did,

I was more susceptible to energetic interference.

Because it's not always psychic attack.

It's not just that somebody sits there saying,

Sending you daggers,

You know,

They're even beings that want to interfere with us energetically.

Yes.

Because they don't want us on our path.

Absolutely.

Our sole mission,

They want to interfere and hinder the sole mission.

Yeah.

And so,

Yeah,

Measured doses for me and setting up the space and just being careful what I expose myself to,

Like,

I love the matrix.

But my partner asked if I want to see the most recent one and excuse me,

Part of me does.

And the other part is I cannot take this violence.

Yeah,

I have the same.

It does something to you.

And yeah,

Like you said,

I think it's very important to watch out what you expose yourself to.

And then in doses,

Of course,

Educate yourself,

Look at things.

But be careful,

Because I also feel like the deeper we go down this path and into our inner worlds and actually being the light that we are,

Of course,

We vibrate higher.

But that means we also become much more sensitive and we feel and sense so much more.

I don't know if that's how you feel.

And yeah,

To really in this higher state of consciousness and vibration to tend to your needs and see what you expose yourself to.

Yeah.

And even just,

You know,

Social interactions and all that.

Excuse me.

I always tried to leave my Sunday free to just rest and relax.

Yes.

Because it's,

It's all interactions and everything because I,

I've always been quite sensitive,

Like even as a child,

I could hear electricity.

And it's only recently I was reading the invisible rainbow.

I think it's by an author,

Arthur Furstenberg,

If I've remembered correctly,

And I do recommend it,

I haven't finished it.

Very interesting how electricity affects the human body and how they actually knew this back when they were developing electricity and rolling it out.

And I didn't realize that there's a small percentage of the population that can hear electricity.

I thought those who couldn't hear electricity had hearing problems like my dad or something.

But yeah,

I would walk down the passage and I could hear that the TV was on,

Even though it was on mute before I entered the room.

And sure enough,

I'd enter and it's on mute.

There's no sound coming from it,

But I could hear it even down the passage.

And I do think the more we are waking up,

The more sensitive we're becoming because I used to sleep fine.

And the more I'm waking up,

The more I'm getting on my path.

I'm now at a point where I have to sleep in an EMF protection t-shirt.

All of my pajamas are redundant.

And even now,

The place that I bought them from,

They did warn that after I think it's about 30 washes that they're less effective.

And I was with my kinesiologist and she said,

Oh,

You're being susceptible to EMF again.

And I said,

Oh,

But I'm wearing these t-shirts,

But have they lost their effectiveness?

And so she did muscle test me and she said,

Yes,

Two of them have.

So I'm moving on to the other ones and sleeping better.

But I think it was last year,

There were four nights in a row where I just did not sleep well.

And I mean,

I have a sleep meditation out there,

I've got a sleep podcast.

I've investigated everything to do with sleep,

That my bedroom,

My routine,

Everything is set up.

Like I don't have any blue light exposure an hour before bed,

Phone is turned on flight mode.

I don't look at it,

You know,

Not watching TV an hour before bed,

All of these things in place.

So why for four nights in a row,

My partner happened to stumble across an article that said day one,

More satellites were launched into space.

And so,

Yeah,

He lent me his EMF protection t-shirt.

And that's when I found out I have to sleep with EMF protection t-shirt because I slept.

Wow,

I didn't know they have those.

Yeah,

They're really great.

I think because you're in Germany,

Aren't you?

Yes.

You can probably order from a company called Shield.

I have a feeling that they're in Slovakia,

If I've remembered correctly.

And yes,

I sleep in a t-shirts.

They've got even beanies.

I've got a beanie to walk around with in winter.

But yeah,

Just in terms of the EMF,

And I think this is part of energetic protection,

You know,

For me to be able to use my computer because my entire business moved online with all of these lockdowns.

And in a way,

I'm really grateful,

Because I was spending a lot of time traveling.

Yes,

You know,

Driving up to an hour to go see a client and it's exhausting,

You know,

Especially for a sensitive being like me,

I'm much better suited to being in the comfort of my own home.

Only making myself presentable from the waist up.

You know,

Just being in my own space that I have energetically protected.

But to just be on a computer.

I've had to bring in like,

I've got bags of shungite.

I've got the most beautiful organized pyramids that my partner gave me.

I've got four of them.

Organite is great for EMF protection.

And these you can get on Etsy.

If you look on Etsy,

Just type in organized pyramid.

And then I've also got these tachyon disks.

I think this is actually from a German company.

Advanced tachyon technology.

I'm pretty sure.

Yeah,

Because if you look there,

There's the German.

Yeah.

So I've got one of these under the computer and one behind the computer.

And we've also got behind our TV.

Because these these electronic devices,

I mean,

Especially so my,

My mobile phone or maybe you call it a cell phone.

I my left eye started twitching.

When I bought this new one a few years ago,

I couldn't pin it immediately to the phone because it was like a few weeks afterwards.

And I couldn't stop it.

It was twitching all day on an orphan.

It was driving me crazy.

And so I started investigating the EMF protection for phones.

And now I've got two pieces of shungite.

I've got various things stuck to the back,

Even this other thing that I got off.

Love technologies.

It's like a light up thing,

But you've got to,

You've got to play a YouTube video while positioning this thing to get the best position.

It was quite good.

It works because my eye as soon as I put the shungite there,

My eyes stop twitching within 24 hours.

That's a pretty clear sign.

So long as you get shungite,

Like the real proper shungite,

It really does work.

And it helps with the energetic protection.

Because these EMFs,

Even like there's dirty electricity and all of that going through our homes.

I mean,

We've got a Faraday cage on our router.

We've got Faraday cages on our gas and electricity meters.

They all affect us,

Our energy fields and our bodies.

And so then you,

It just makes it harder to keep that sphere of protection around you.

Yes.

Yeah.

That's a lot of interesting things.

Definitely.

I also have a,

I work with a wonderful woman in Berlin and she channels symbols and does soul journeys.

And she also channels your soul symbol that contains the essence of your soul.

And she has,

I have it on my computer here,

Stickers with a certain symbol that also has a protective energy.

Oh yes.

So and you can put it on your phone.

I don't know if I have one in my drawer.

Let me check if I could show you.

No,

I think I've used them all.

Yeah.

But she's in Berlin and she has these stickers and you can put it on your phone,

Your computer.

So that's also helpful.

Yeah,

I think we do need it and we need all of these.

And I think some work for some people better than others.

Like for me,

It's definitely the shungite.

And for some other people,

They've used these other stickers that stick on their phones.

But yeah,

Actually the organite,

For me,

Shungite and organite are the main things.

Like my kinesiologist recently said to me that when I go out,

Like to restaurants,

Coffee shops,

Even out and about,

I've got a shungite pendant and she said,

Oh,

I must start wearing that.

And it's something that I never thought of.

Look,

I know there's all of these EMFs and whatever in my home.

I mean,

If I'm trying to connect to the internet,

The Wi-Fi,

I mean,

At least six come up because there's my neighbors there,

My neighbors there,

Across there,

You know,

So it's not just my router.

So I was aware of it in the home,

But something that I feel so silly for missing is that when I go out,

When I'm in a restaurant,

Every single person who's there has got their mobile phone or cell phone that is connected to their Wi-Fi data,

You know,

For them to be able to access the internet.

And then the restaurant or the coffee shop,

Nine times out of 10,

Has at least one router there offering free Wi-Fi.

You know,

So you just sit there with your cup of tea and you blast with all of this Wi-Fi again.

And so yeah,

I've started wearing my organized pendant when I go out as well.

But yeah,

It is so important.

And I think what's also important is helping the children.

Yes,

Because these kids are on electronic devices.

I mean,

So I think cell phones were brought into South Africa when I was a teen roughly.

I can't remember exactly when it happened,

But I got my first one,

I think,

When I was about 16.

So it was still new for the schools with kids bringing cell phones into class.

And we weren't really on it as much,

You know,

And they were really just the black and white ones that you could send.

In South Africa,

You call it an SMS in the UK.

It's a text message service.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was really just that.

But I mean,

Nowadays they've even integrated using iPads in schools.

And I think it's fantastic.

You know,

These kids are so intuitive with technology that,

You know,

They,

There are kids finishing school now who can do way more on social media than I can because I'm trying to feel my way and figure it out and watch tutorials that these kids are doing.

And I'm learning from them.

But with all of this EMF exposure and everything,

Like on a daily basis,

You know,

Throughout the day,

It can get to them.

Yes.

And,

You know,

I think on a whole,

These star seed children,

These crystal children,

These rainbow children,

They are so much more sensitive and they need that extra help.

And look,

I,

I didn't think I'd be working with children.

It was,

I think in 2016,

I was in a group setting with a healing and this lady was working on me and she was showing other practitioners how to do this,

The certain modality.

And she knew a little bit about me and that I really wanted to focus on the animals.

And she started laughing and she said,

You think you're going to work with the animals.

I have news for you.

The animals are going to lead you to the children.

And I just started crying.

And I thought I could put it off.

But it's obviously a soul journey.

I know I do work with children in the astral planes.

It's meant to happen on the earth plane as well.

So for more than a year,

I was asked to create meditations for children,

Especially these sensitive types.

So I finally did it.

And earlier this year,

I've released three so far,

Two of them on nighttime meditations.

And then there's one morning one.

And I specifically infused in these meditations,

These energetic techniques that I use on myself and my clients.

So the first one I ever did is called purple silver sparkles.

And basically I get the kids,

They,

I think they find a jar or a bag of purple silver sparkles.

And in the writing of this meditation and in the recording and the editing,

I consciously held the intention that those purple silver sparkles are infused with ultraviolet fire.

It's a very cleansing and protective energy.

And I then get the kids to sort of throw it around their bedrooms.

They're getting ready to sleep well at night and they throw it around the bedroom.

And I think it can stick to walls and the ceiling and all of that.

So it's setting their room up energetically that they can feel safe.

Because I think a lot of these kids,

They,

They are experiencing nightmares.

I've even heard of some having night terrors.

Or just in general,

I mean,

I set up my home at night,

I lie in bed and I bring in all sorts of protection.

I've noticed when I don't do that,

I am more susceptible to bad dreams,

Sometimes nightmares.

It's only twice that I've woken up,

Or maybe a third time of feeling that there's something in my room.

And then having to get that out.

Yeah,

So just to help these kids.

And,

And then there's another one where I introduce,

It's called the dream dragon.

So I introduce them to their own personal dream dragon,

Who will go with them on all dream time adventures.

And this dream dragon is kind of like a spirit guide,

A protector,

That they're not going off on their own is there's a being there to help them.

I think it's important to teach these kids their own energetic protection,

Because that's empowering them.

Just like all of us,

I encourage people not to rely on a spiritual teacher not to take everything a spiritual teacher says is verbatim,

Find your own way find what resonates for you.

I think it's important to teach these kids how to protect themselves energetically not to rely on a parent or guardian.

Because there might be situations where the parental guardian isn't there.

You know,

In school specifically,

And so the crystal egg meditation,

It's a morning meditation,

Setting them up for school.

I mean,

I experienced bullying at school,

I wish I'd had some kind of energetic protection.

I just had to learn how to be I wouldn't say hard,

But almost like hard on the outside,

Soft on the inside,

Because I was still hurting,

I still felt the effects of the bullying.

But trying to appear hard on the outside,

So that hopefully leave me alone.

So that's why this meditation,

I help them set up their own energetic egg that they can step into anytime they want.

And yeah,

Protect themselves.

And then they don't rely on a parent to be there to do it for them or talk them through it.

Yeah,

And I think that's so wonderful that you do that.

And we'll definitely post your the link to your website and YouTube channel below this video.

So then if anyone's interested,

You can just access the link.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah,

That and especially the kids coming in now.

I mean,

They're very old souls,

They have more of their DNA is activated,

Like you said,

The rainbow children,

And they're so sensitive,

They,

They feel so much and sense so much of what's going on around them.

And they're still in this,

Yes,

Still old systems.

So exactly what you said,

It's,

It's wonderful when they can learn to protect themselves.

I had a session with a little boy and he'd been in a classroom on his own with a teacher.

And all the way down the hall was another classroom filled with kids.

But he said to the teacher,

It's really noisy in here.

And so I helped him understand that he's sending his aura or energy fields,

However you want to describe it.

It's too big.

It's all the way in that other classroom and bring it into your classroom.

And I did a lovely exercise with him just,

You know,

Expanding and contracting his energy fields,

You know,

So that he can understand that he can do that,

You know,

And we make it as big as the room kind of touch the room.

And small,

Small,

Small,

And attach your feet on the top of your head.

And it was really great.

And he got it.

I mean,

And they so quick.

You know,

For me,

I think back when I as a team and I was working with that healer when she was saying see the see that some of it came naturally other things I had to concentrate quite hard.

But these kids have got it immediately.

I mean,

I did another exercise with him and I said,

And I've done this a bit with adults as well,

You know,

Okay,

There's there's energy here.

What color is it?

He just said immediately blue.

Whereas I've had adults where they kind of like and they tuning into it and they're like,

Well,

I think it's it's this color.

And I mean,

These kids are just instant.

He just said it's blue.

Yeah,

Yeah,

They're still so intuitive.

And as grown ups,

The mind is so busy.

And then you question everything straight away.

And you miss that moment of intuition when it pops into your,

Your senses.

And then like you said,

You think about it,

And then it's already gone kind of,

Yeah.

Now,

Something that I also bring in with my work is checking for energetic interference in terms of negative openings and portals.

And what I do on some of my webinars is I encourage people to learn techniques and then see how they can adapt them in other areas of their sessions,

Or whatever.

And what I've been doing for a while now is I'll learn a so called human technique.

And I then see how I can bring it into the animal sessions.

And in terms of the,

The energetic protection,

What I found really interesting is I've never been taught to check negative openings or portals with an animal.

And I it was never something that I thought is this something I need to check.

But I was working with a horse and it just came to me as soon as the lady booked the session.

And I read why she's booking the session.

Immediately it came to me this horse has at least one portal open it's in its energy fields.

And I've never checked it before.

And I just thought,

Okay,

Well,

Let's try this.

So during the session,

I did the human technique with the horse,

It's with pendulums.

And sure enough,

I don't I can't remember how many had had.

And yeah,

Did the procedure to seal it,

Close it disappear,

And,

And all of that.

And I got great feedback,

Because this horse was really experiencing a lot of energetic interference,

Especially from somebody who seems to be showing a lot of jealousy.

It was a person who would be present at the competitions.

And anyway,

I got great feedback that the horse did so well.

And it's great,

Because part of me,

You know that I'm still dealing with this element of am I crazy,

I'm checking for portals in a horse's energy field.

But I get the intuition do it.

Yes,

You need to check it.

Yes,

The horse does have this.

And then to get the feedback is so great,

Because it's like,

It really did help.

And so I think we're all susceptible and I put out a social media post about animals that can see through the veil.

And I asked if anybody's experienced their companion animals,

Especially cats.

You know,

Looking at something in a room,

And there's seemingly nothing there.

And I've got loads of people coming with their stories,

Dogs and cats.

And I think there was the odd horse story and it was wonderful.

Yeah.

And it just shows that they susceptible as well.

Yeah,

Absolutely.

I put a great story about one of our dogs,

We got new fridges.

And we had to get somebody to come in and amend the kitchen cupboards before the fridges could go in because it was kind of fridge freezer.

So we had to exactly the same.

But the handles were on different sides,

You know,

So you can open both like that.

Yes.

So we had them in a separate room while the cupboards were being amended.

And our one dog just kept barking at the one fridge.

And even then,

When we put the fridges in,

How did she know because it actually swapped round,

She still barked at the same fridge because we could tell from the handles which one she was barking at.

So I went to that healer that I used to go to as a teen and I explained this and I did think,

Oh,

I don't know what she's gonna think of me,

You know,

Talking to him,

I'm a dog barking at a fridge.

And she she uses pendulums as well.

And she checked and she said,

There's an energy attached to this fridge.

And so she cleared it.

Sure enough,

The dog never barked at the fridge again.

And so they they see these things.

And so yeah,

If your animal is noticing or barking at anything that you can't see,

Take that as a sign.

Yeah,

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah,

I have a funny story as well.

The woman that I worked with in Berlin when her daughter was still small,

Because she also was very open and could see things and,

And they had a cat and sometimes the cat would like bounce around the room and like,

Push up her back.

And,

And then the little daughter said,

Oh,

Can't you see mom this?

I don't remember what it was being is riding on the cat again,

And the cat's getting really annoyed.

And the cat was like jumping up and down.

Oh,

My gosh,

That's so brilliant.

Yeah.

I thought that was very funny.

Yeah,

I do when I feel under the weather,

And I'm laying in bed,

I since all of my animals that I've had before childhood animals on the bed with me,

So you can call on them in spirit,

They can also come back and help.

Yeah,

Absolutely.

I have.

Oh,

My God,

I don't know if I can get this together.

I was singing on a cruise ship once and I met this woman from South Africa.

She lived there.

I don't think she was from there,

But she lived there.

And she could see and communicate with the souls of animals that had passed on.

And she would sometimes see before an animal died,

She would see the soul leaving already the body,

Like she saw a bird and the soul was already out of the body and the bird got eaten like a minute afterwards or something.

And she had this farm and she would work with the souls of these animals.

I don't remember all the details,

But it was really interesting what she said.

Wow.

Yeah,

I think there's loads more people coming out as working with animals because.

You know,

I remember the one time working with a dog and just getting that he wants more eggs,

And it felt a bit strange telling these people,

Oh,

Your dog is wanting more eggs.

You know,

How do you know that?

How is that coming through?

But I think it's generally becoming more and more spoken about and accepted.

And I think people are understanding the connection that they've got with their animals.

I mean,

As a child and as a teen,

I used to just talk verbally to our animals and I understood them a lot of the time.

It was only as an adult when I said to somebody,

Oh,

My dog used to ask me for banana,

That they were like,

What,

How?

And I had to take a moment.

Yeah.

How did he ask me?

I mean,

It was kind of just like he would sit in front of me and I would just know.

And it wasn't any kind of a begging.

You know,

You do get some dogs who kind of if you eating a banana,

They'd beg or whatever,

But it was just a knowing.

And so,

Yeah,

Just.

Just tuning in,

Accepting that and realizing.

But I don't think it's any sort of a special gift.

I certainly don't feel like I was born with a special gift.

I think anyone can do it.

And it's it's through training and experimenting and all of that.

That that you can awaken that.

Yes,

I think it's yeah,

It's something we all the potential lies within us all.

We've just become so out of touch with it in our society that people forget who they truly are.

I mean,

I think Rumi,

I think was it Rumi?

Yeah.

He said I'm learning is the highest form of learning.

So to forget the things or go through the things that have been placed upon us,

You know,

The way of thinking the limitations and to actually come back to who we really are and and to that potential.

And like you say,

Then by training and experiencing it,

Uncovering it again.

Yeah,

Exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah,

That's always I think that's a wonderful way to to see it.

There's nothing we have to get from the outside.

It's just something to rediscover.

It's it's remember.

And remember exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yes.

But no,

Thank you so much.

There's so many helpful things.

And I think people can can relate to a lot of it and find a lot of help within these recommendations.

Yes.

Oh,

Well,

Thank you so much for having me.

Yes,

It's been a pleasure.

And do you have anything else that you find very important also to let people know in this area of energetic protection?

Anything else that's relevant?

Oh,

Yes.

So one thing when I had to go back on this course,

Once I'd finally figured out that back in 2017,

That that lady was psychically attacking me on the course,

When I'd finally joined all the dots.

I said to these friends who helped me I said,

But I've got another module that I've got to go see her,

I don't really want to see her.

And they said,

You can put up a gold wall between you and her.

I found that so helpful in many situations.

You know,

Even if there is somebody,

You know,

Like in social situations where you're expected to do like a hug,

Hello,

Or something like that.

There's been the odd person where I'd really prefer not to,

But it's expected.

And I just imagine,

Not quite a gold wall,

But almost like a gold film in between them and I,

That I then my energy is not really mingling with theirs.

And I certainly feel better with that.

Yes.

And then similarly,

When I go to any practitioner,

If it's for a massage,

Or like my kinesiologist,

Whatever,

Even my hairdresser,

I always ask for gold gloves to be placed on their hands,

You know,

Especially you think of hairdressers working very close to crown and third eye,

That's sometimes even throat,

You know.

And it doesn't interfere with any sort of good energetics.

Like it's certainly not interfered with any sessions with my kinesiologist.

She's actually got a very lovely energy anyway.

So but it just,

It also means if I'm going through anything,

Then I know it's not going through to them.

Yeah,

If I'm having to purge,

Whatever.

Yes.

But I think that's also important.

Yeah.

Because sometimes you can't,

You know,

Like,

Especially if certain family events or you know,

Whatever,

They've been situations where you,

You can't really say,

Oh,

No,

I don't.

I'll say hello to you and you but not you.

Yes.

Yeah.

And then it's good to have some tools.

Yeah,

That gold film.

Yeah,

I also used to like,

I mean,

You know,

I've worked in a theater for over 20 years,

And there's so many people and sometimes I mean,

You have people with all kinds of energies.

And I also what really helps me is like envisioning a cloak that on the outside has mirrors.

So that the energy of people that are that is not good for me will be reflected again.

So it'll bounce off basically.

Yeah.

So one thing that I do teach people is that you can direct energy away.

So especially if somebody is targeting some kind of a psychic attack to you,

And something that I learned on a course,

I didn't realize this,

That even just gossiping,

Or talking badly about someone is a form of psychic attack,

It's obviously a more minor one.

But you know,

Even that sort of thing,

And you can use a way of you either bounce it off.

And again,

You could use like gold,

Or like you say,

The mirrors or something like that.

And it's bounced off into the universe.

That's what I usually recommend,

Just send it out to the universe,

Let's source deal with that energy.

Rather than sending it back to the person.

Yeah,

So there is somebody in my life who I can't,

For various reasons,

Get them out.

And so I just keep them there.

But when they send me any kind of psychic attack,

I send it out to the universe,

Because I've been told explicitly,

I cannot send it back to them,

It will involve karma,

I will get karma,

Because they are not doing this intentionally.

They don't know what they're doing.

And they are not capable of,

Of understanding,

Even if I were to have a conversation with them,

To just keep sending it out into the universe,

Keep that,

Taking it away,

Batting it away.

But there is somebody that I know in my life that occasionally sends it,

But they know what they're doing.

And so then I will visualize more like,

Like a concave gold wall.

So So basically,

It's kind of like that almost like,

I guess,

Like a baseball mat.

But with this part facing them here,

So whatever they send gets bounced back straight to them,

Because he can he can get whatever he's sending to me.

I'm not interested,

You know,

Yeah,

There's no karma involved,

Because he knows what he's doing.

And even on on another level with his higher self,

I've warned him,

If you continue to send the psychic attack,

I am going to send it directly back to you.

And since I've been using this concave,

It's actually diminished.

Yes.

But yeah,

With with the other person,

I don't want to get karma damages.

So I think for the most part,

You want to send it out into the universe.

And it's only if somebody really knows what they're doing,

And they keep at it.

Yeah,

That's a different situation.

Go into meditation,

And I wouldn't bring their higher self right up close to you.

You want to keep them even like outside the room outside your house.

On one of my courses,

They taught us you can imagine a goal infinity sign,

And you each standing in a loop.

So that's what I use.

Yeah,

That's I find that very effective.

Yeah,

Yeah.

And you can then have a conversation.

Just like they standing in front of you.

And you can explain that what you're doing to me is wrong.

It's affecting me.

You need to stop this.

If you don't stop this,

I will be sending it directly back to you.

And I released myself of all karma because I am warning you.

Yeah,

This is a thing so long as there's a warning.

And you're not just doing it straight off the back.

Yeah.

But yeah,

That that's been very helpful.

Yeah.

For people who just won't let up.

There's there's one other technique that is not foolproof.

It helped me in one situation.

It was great.

I learned about you can put somebody's name in the freezer.

Okay.

So I had this one woman she just she seemed very spiritual,

But she's obviously going through a lot and she started bullying me and I needed her to just leave my life and she would not and she just kept messaging me and all of this and nothing that I could say she would always find something to reignite conversation in some way.

And so I thought,

Okay,

Let's give it a try.

So I wrote her name on a piece of paper and put it in a Ziploc bag with water and I put it in the freezer.

She left my life.

It's been what is this?

Definitely two years.

I've not heard from her.

But when I learned this,

The lady said to me,

You need to be prepared for this person to leave your life,

Whoever you do this with.

So you don't want to do it,

You know,

You maybe you have an argument with your partner or,

You know,

Whatever a family member or something.

It's not really recommended for that it needs to be that you are willing for this person to completely leave your life.

I've tried it with somebody else.

And because they know what they're doing,

And I actually think that they have probably had lifetimes training in the dark arts.

He's kind of managed to break through that.

So his name is still in the freezer,

But I still get the odd psychic attack.

It's not frequent,

But you know,

He that's the one way I'm doing the concave and that seems to be working more.

Just he can have you can have it all back.

Yeah,

Yeah.

Yes.

And I do have one more question.

Like when you like you mentioned this woman when she's out of your life.

So of course,

We still have even when maybe paths have taken or have gone into different directions.

We still have energetic attachments to people that we have cords,

You know.

So how do you consciously dissolve these cords?

Do you use like help of Archangel Michael with the sword to cut them or do you have any special techniques for that?

Yeah.

And again,

You can change things up and in each situation you can choose something different.

So what I tend to do is a combination of Archangel Michael coming to cut the cords and then I use ultraviolet fire to dissolve them.

I previously I'd read in a book where you can call on a group of angels who will take the courts away to source.

So whatever feels right for you and you can merge other people's techniques because there are loads of techniques that you can read about and I think meditations on YouTube and find what works.

But I think what's important for me is once they have been dissolved or taken away in some form is what I see in my mind's eye is that there's been kind of like a hole in me where the cord was and so I fill it with Divine white light.

Yes,

I think that's important.

Yeah,

And that's almost like if you're cleaning a wound so it allows my own natural light to come and fill that space and then I seal it with gold light almost like a band-aid.

Yeah to prevent further because while it's still healing it's made possibly a bit more vulnerable.

So you're full with Divine white light seal with gold and and that's that's one way to deal with it.

I did have one cord into me where it kind of even set roots where I needed to kind of visualize pulling the roots out.

Yeah.

Pull that all out and then kind of hand it over.

And the other thing to be aware of is that you know organizations are energy.

You can be called it to an organization a company a business.

So it took me a long time to realize with the help of somebody else that I was still called it into the old property company that I used to work for and no wonder I was,

You know,

Feeling a bit drained.

I was coming up to obstacles in my own business because my energy was being pulled back to another business.

And so I had to cut cords with the organization as well.

So I think to just look at those areas just anywhere that it's not just people.

Yes,

But you know,

It could even be a place a physical place.

Like I think I still had some connection to the actual building but even homes that you've lived in.

Yeah,

You know,

I after moving home,

I suddenly realized part of my energy is is still in my own home and to call it back.

Yeah,

But you might need to call it into a crystal for healing first,

You know,

So if you if you have been through any sort of trauma,

It's not always advisable to just call your mind back because if it's fragmented due to trauma,

You don't want to bring that trauma back into you.

Yeah,

It could fry your system.

It could really upset it could,

You know,

Send you into a dark night of the soul or something you want that to be healed before it comes back into you.

But yeah,

So I would I would look at any previous homes companies,

Especially past lovers that that's definitely important to cut chords in the cycle chakra with that.

Yeah.

Yes,

That does have a great influence.

Yeah,

You can sometimes tell if you are still corded to to somebody like that,

Because what I've noticed is out of nowhere,

Somebody will pop into my mind and I think why am I thinking of them?

And then I get the message they thinking of you.

And they sometimes people I don't want to really be connected to and then there's still a cord of some sorts.

Let's and what's important is to destroy all backup and recreation files or programs because chords can be a bit like a computer where you've got your trash bin,

Your cycling bin,

Whatever it is,

So you delete a file.

And if that's by mistake,

You go into the recycling bin and you can click restore.

So with these chords,

You destroy them,

Get rid of them.

And some part of you,

Your unconscious mind or whatever thinks,

Oh,

Hang on,

But that that code is gone with better recreated using the backup file.

So definitely good to destroy any backup or recreation files.

Because I couldn't understand I was cutting chords with a certain person for years and I thought this is boring now.

And then I came across this and it's like,

That's why because they keep reforming either because I'm running the program.

Yeah.

Or because this person is wanting to record with me.

Yeah.

And look,

Just on that note,

It's completely normal for kids to be corded to their parents.

And you want those chords there because it's part of them feeling nurtured and connected.

One person I spoke to said that she accidentally cut the cord and her child did feel was showing a few signs of abandonment.

The cords will usually reform.

So if it is accidentally cut,

Otherwise you can intentionally reform the cord.

But you want to upgrade those cords,

Make sure that there's you can send gold light down them.

Because I have heard some situations where it's not sounding healthy.

That there is something not quite right.

And so while it is natural for kids,

You know,

Definitely up until possibly even early teens,

But I'd say from teens onwards,

That's when you know,

They can start standing on their own two feet.

But certainly the little kids,

You want to send gold light down.

You don't want to just cut them,

You upgrade the cords so that they still feel loved,

Nurtured.

Yeah,

That's very important.

Yes.

I just read two really inspiring books.

I don't know if you know them from Peter Mount Shasta,

Search for the Guru and Apprentice to the Masters.

Oh,

No,

I don't know.

And it was really interesting because the first book is like about him going to India and searching for his guru.

And in the end,

It's basically be your own guru.

So to not be dependent on anything on the outside.

Yes,

To learn,

Be inspired.

It would be too much now to go into the whole book.

But so in the second book,

He actually does become an apprentice to the master Saint-Germain.

So and it's really interesting,

His story of learning to follow his intuition,

His guidance.

And he also had,

I just read yesterday,

There was a part where he had an extreme psychic attack also of an entity that wanted to stop him from doing his light work.

And in his case,

It was he was really like physically attacked.

I don't remember what it was,

Something sharp went into his his body,

Like it didn't actually hurt his physical body,

Like there was no blood or anything.

But for days,

He would feel this pain at that spot.

Because his cells respond in the same way.

And he then actually managed to win this call it fight or what you want to call it,

By going into complete unconditional love,

And then sending it also towards this entity and that protected him in that moment and the entity left.

So but it's very interesting.

He talks a lot about these things and his own journey.

And it's very interesting to read.

So yeah,

I think it's important for us all to realize that it doesn't matter where we are on the path,

We can all be spiritual teachers.

Yes,

Yes,

You know,

And for a long time,

I thought people were asking me to run workshops and webinars and all of us and I was like,

No,

No,

And I kept thinking,

I don't know enough.

I don't know enough.

Because I looked at the spiritual teachers in my life,

But I thought they were so amazing.

And they've written books and whatever.

And I,

There might be a book at one point,

Certainly not in the near future.

But I've not done that,

You know,

And then I heard somebody say,

But,

You know,

You can help so long as you're two steps ahead,

You can help the people who's two steps behind you,

You know,

And it's all help each other.

Yeah.

And,

You know,

Even just figuring out the technology like the,

You know,

A few of us on a social media site,

And that you once you figure something out,

You then share that,

You know,

And it helps everyone.

Yeah.

And that you don't need to be this spiritual teacher.

You can help the person next to you.

Yeah,

Absolutely.

And trust your innate knowing and the gifts unfolding.

I had the same as you like,

You think,

Oh,

Am I far enough with this or that and then you find out you can you really do help people,

You know,

Like you said,

We're,

We're all teachers on this path and,

And to trust that,

That guidance,

And your intuition and the abilities that that we do have.

Yeah.

And I think when we start realizing that we've got so many innate gifts,

Talents,

Abilities and experience that we have forgotten about by incarnating on this earth plane,

That you don't know what you were,

I mean,

You could have,

You know,

Probably were incredible,

You know,

In another lifetime,

And that you are dismissing yourself,

Because you,

You've just forgotten that.

Yeah,

Yeah.

I think a lot of us have been through that.

And I think it's the common thing with with light workers is doing loads of courses,

You know,

And when will it be enough?

Yeah,

I also did that,

You know,

Always the book on the next course,

The next course,

The next course.

And when is it enough,

And I'm not saying stop doing courses,

Because I think even though I'm not part of a professional body anymore,

I chose not to one of the professional organizations that I was a member of,

Did something that is not in line with my view of things.

And I realized I could,

By being a member of their organization,

I,

I'm giving some of my energy to them,

They are in some way called it to me.

And if they're going to be doing things that I don't agree with,

I need to detach from that completely.

Yeah.

But yeah,

You know,

Even even there,

You don't,

You don't need to be part of an organization,

But they,

They seem to and I think it is good,

They insist on continual professional development.

And when you're part of these organizations,

You usually have to prove it each year,

You know,

How a certain amount of hours where you've done reading,

Listening to podcasts,

Workshops,

Courses,

That sort of thing.

And even though I'm not part of a professional organization anymore,

I think it's still important to keep the learning.

And I think actually,

We must never stop learning,

Even if it's reading books or whatever,

To just stop and and let the mind go.

And and to know that we don't know everything,

There's always something more to learn.

Yeah.

And there's always a technique that we use that can be tweaked further.

Yes,

Yes.

Yeah,

Absolutely.

And to really integrate it into our everyday lives.

I mean,

You can go from course to course,

From training to training and never actually implemented into your own life in your everyday life to really practice what you preach,

You know,

And like you said,

Find a balance,

Of course,

Do teachings evolve,

Go beyond go further.

But at the same time,

Remember those innate gifts that we have lifetimes we've had our soul,

Soul's origin,

These gifts that we have to give that also space,

Like I had a time in my life,

I thought,

Oh,

I need to do more courses.

And I couldn't find anything that felt right.

I didn't resonate with anything.

And it turned out that it was a time where I needed to go within deeper to develop my gifts,

Give them space,

Without anything being put on myself from the outside and to go in deeper.

And then after that period,

I could move on to other things again,

But it was important at that time,

To give that space to myself to,

To develop those things and remember these things.

Exactly.

Yeah.

And part of doing all the different courses is again,

Pick and choose what resonates with you.

Yeah.

And integrate that.

So my pendulum work is actually bits and pieces from various teachers that I've decided what I like and I use.

And actually,

There's almost an entire course that I did,

That I've completely ditched,

Because I didn't feel anything.

You know,

It sounded great.

All the techniques sounded amazing.

But when using each technique,

I felt no benefits,

I felt I didn't really feel the energetics.

And it's okay to completely ditch an entire course.

And it's okay to ditch half a course,

And keep the other half that you like,

Or maybe even just one element that you like that resonates.

Yeah.

And you know,

Maybe you come back at a later date and look at something and you think,

Oh,

Actually,

I do quite like that will integrate that.

But there's nothing set in stone that what a teacher says you have then got to do exactly in those steps.

You just you form your own way.

So long as you keep to,

You know,

I would say definitely set up energetically closed down energetically and in between you,

You find what works,

You know,

What works for each person.

If you if you're a healer practitioner,

What works for each different client could be completely different.

Yeah.

Held between safe spaces and energetic protection.

Oh,

Yes,

One more thing.

If you are a practitioner of any sorts,

Or you even just work with other people,

If you're a coach,

If you do massage in anything where you're working with clients,

Make sure you disconnect from your clients afterwards.

I helped somebody a few weeks ago where they were still connected to over 50 clients.

Oh,

Wow.

Okay.

Release their energy disconnect.

It has been said that a temporary cord is formed between healer and recipient,

Which is natural,

But you want to make sure that that's dissolved and released and you release your clients energy.

I'd say even any sort of workshops,

If you run that,

Any online events,

Anything where you're holding even a group space,

Need to disconnect from all of that,

Because it's just ways people can access your energy fields.

And even if if they lovely people,

It could also be draining.

Yeah.

And if your energy is drained,

You it is more difficult to hold your own gene gray,

Energetic field around you.

Absolutely.

Yes.

Yes.

And and you give such wonderful webinars,

Like you said,

Your pendulum,

I think you're hosting it next year again,

Right?

Yeah,

It's sometimes big,

Yuri,

I think.

So anyone who's interested,

I highly recommend it.

I did your last one.

So keep an eye open for that.

I take you straight from beginners.

And it's even for those people who've used pendulums before,

But literally how to choose your pendulum,

How to cleanse clear a program and how to start using it for yes or no.

And we even then look at a basic chart.

You can start using it's really great the chart.

Yeah.

4%.

I use the chart a lot actually to check in energetic interference as well.

You know,

With my clients,

If they're negative openings,

How many and a numbers chart is great shows me exactly how many negative openings we're dealing with.

Yeah,

It's a great tool.

Definitely.

Yes.

Yeah,

I'm definitely going to go through the recording again.

Great.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

But thank you so much.

So many so much great information.

And I think to sum it up,

It's follow your intuition,

Be playful,

Experiment,

See what's right for you.

Follow your guidance,

Right?

If we would sum it up in a few words.

Yes.

Yes.

But it's been lovely having you.

Thank you so much.

Thanks so much for having me.

It's been great.

And yeah,

Keep an eye out for Liz Findley and her webinars and meditations.

I'll definitely post all the links below.

Thank you.

Yes.

So any last last thoughts or last thoughts?

Well,

As you said,

Have fun,

Raise your vibe that helps with energetic protection.

Absolutely.

My favorite is dance to YouTube.

Be your own DJ.

I love the 80s cheese.

Yeah.

And raise your vibe.

Yes.

So in that sense,

Thank you so much for listening to us today.

I hope we've inspired you a little bit and see you next time.

Bye,

Everyone.

Bye bye.

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