The Interview: Kara Goodwin~Golden Triangles, Glowing Hearts

Kara tells a story of revelation this week-and one that was very unexpected. During a CE-5 event (in which humans work to initiate contact with other beings) she was given a vision that touched her so deeply at the time it made her sob openly...and changed the way she views this world and her place in it. Her story includes Gene Keys, Sacred Geometry, as well as synchronicity galore!! (and you know how I love a good synchronicity or two!)

Transcript

Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of Bite-Sized Blessings.

This week I interview Kara Goodwin who's a meditation and spiritual transformation guide as well as host of the Meditation Conversation podcast.

She's also an energy healer and she was drawn to meditation after a series of losses and we talk about that a little bit later in the episode.

We also talk about something that I wanted to give you a little background on.

It's a documentary film that we talk about by Stephen Greer or he's one of the contributors and it's called Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind.

Now I know you all who've been listening to this podcast have heard stories of UFOs and people seeing things that they can't quite explain and so we do talk a little bit about that in this episode.

But the idea of Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind is that humans,

We can reach out in different ways to aliens or other sentient beings or other entities.

We can be the initiators of contact.

So if you want to watch a really intriguing documentary,

Something that might keep you on the edge of your seats,

Check it out online.

It's a really fascinating documentary and something I think that will maybe help you to think of the world and our place in it in a very different way.

So Cara's had multiple instances of,

You know,

I guess you'd call them supra-normal events.

Things that aren't considered quote-unquote normal by society's standards.

But as all of you know,

Who've been listening to this podcast for quite a while,

There's a lot going on out there with a lot of different people that doesn't fit into that quote-unquote normal worldview.

And that's what makes this world kind of exciting and makes me want to wake up every morning is I never know what kind of magic the day is going to bring.

So now,

My interview with Cara Goodwin.

It was very much an inward journey.

So we really spent a lot of time with our eyes closed meditating,

Kind of getting our consciousness connected with space and with our higher self and with our,

You know,

If we have a galactic team,

Kind of galactic team sort of thing.

And we did breath work.

And so I did this breath work.

And when we were finished with the breath work,

I saw this in my with my eyes closed,

But then I opened my eyes and I kept seeing it.

But it was like these thin golden lines that were in a specific formation.

It was sort of like teardrop shaped,

But,

But angular.

If you had to go somewhere and introduce yourself,

How would you do that?

What a great question.

You know,

I feel like,

Like you,

I have so many facets to myself.

So it really depends on who I'm talking to,

Because some of the things that I like,

And that I would that I identify with are maybe a little bit out there for people.

So I always try to feel into like,

Where is this person?

And sometimes,

Like,

I am pretty careful.

But sometimes I do like step a little bit too far.

And then I'm like,

Oh,

Watch them run away.

Look at how fast they can run.

They're amazing.

That happened at a wedding a couple like a year and a half ago,

Where I was just like thinking the conversation,

Like we were really like having this great conversation.

And then I just took it a little bit too far about space or something like that.

And they were like,

Um,

You know,

I really should go.

And I was like,

Oh,

Whoops.

I'm also a mom I have and a wife and I have two kids,

A 16 year old and my daughter just turned 14 yesterday.

So I'm just kind of was feeling nostalgic about that because I was looking at baby photos and things like that.

Just time just goes so quickly.

And I love animals.

I have a dog and two cats and my dog just wagged her tail when I said that she's like got some keen mind reading thing and things I'm still trying to figure out.

I was gonna take her on I have to call it taking her on a W because she's right here.

Yeah,

She I was I hadn't even said that much to her today.

I just walked down the stairs and she started just wagging her tail and it wasn't the regular time that we go and but I was thinking about it and she was tuned in.

So and I usually introduce myself also as being a treatment free beekeeper.

But I lost my bees over the winter.

And it's the second time that I've lost them.

And I've so I've already gone through the process of rehiving and all of that.

And I can't keep my bees on my property.

I have to that's like about 20 minutes away and things like this has just gotten so busy.

So the people where I was keeping them,

She has like daughters that are young adults,

And they had been keen to do it.

And so I was like,

Hey,

I'm done.

Do you guys want to take over?

So I am a former treatment free beekeeper.

But I still love bees.

And I love plants.

And um,

And I Oh,

And meditation.

Meditation is my jam.

That's like the backbone of everything.

It's the backbone of my,

My parenting,

Even though I don't really meditate with my kids.

But you know,

It's really helps me to be the person the way that I show up.

That introspection,

That that stillness,

That time of,

Of really feeling into my body and understanding my own energy and getting curious about,

You know,

The portals that are within the body that I'm like,

Experiencing more and more tangibly.

And,

You know,

Think it's just,

It's so meaningful for me.

It's so powerful for me.

And it's a big part of how I spend my time,

I don't necessarily spend a ton of time in meditation per se.

I do meditate every day,

At least once,

But and I teach others how to meditate.

And I have groups that I meditate with and lead meditations for.

But even when I'm not meditating,

A lot of the things that I'm doing are around meditation,

They're either writing about meditation,

I have a book coming out next year.

Or talking about meditation,

Or learning more about meditation,

Learning about different practices.

And so yeah,

That's last but not least,

I would say is the whole meditation piece.

We got Okay,

First of all,

I am a former beekeeper as well.

And I had,

Yeah,

In Santa Fe,

I think the most I had was 14 hives.

Wow,

All over the place at people's houses at restaurants,

Out in the middle of fields,

I had them all over.

And then one year,

Actually,

It was really perfect timing.

And in the fall,

I lost every hive because I'm treatment free as well.

And I was just trying to do too much in general with my life,

While not actually having a home.

Because I actually house sat for the last year and a half I lived in Santa Fe,

I could no longer afford to live there.

So it was,

I couldn't afford to live there didn't have anywhere solid or stable to call home had these 14 beehives.

And I think in the fall,

The bees were like,

Okay,

Lady,

Lady,

You can't handle this.

Like,

See you later.

I and they all left me.

I mean,

Several of them did,

Like they didn't make it because I'm treatment free.

And I don't feel like I don't believe in putting chemicals on bees or in the environment.

And so I think some of them did succumb to mites or what have you,

But most of them just left me.

And it's it's such a painful breakup.

It is it's like you feel completely just ghosted by your bees.

You're like,

What happened?

What?

Can we talk about this?

The bees are like,

Wait,

Too late.

So first of all,

I love,

Okay,

That you're a beekeeper,

Because there's something really special about that dance that you have as the human with the bees,

Because the bees are 10 million times smarter than I am.

They've been around for so long.

They're just like this thing walking on two legs is super cumbersome.

And you're,

You're super lame.

And you just don't know,

We'll try to work with you.

So I love that.

But I also love that you will first of all you in general,

But the meditation piece,

And lately,

Just I would like to get your feedback on this just because I've been,

It's been coming to me to do,

You know,

I have been meditating off and on.

And,

You know,

For a long time,

I experienced is kind of a nagging thing where this thought will come up and say meditation,

Meditation.

And I ignored it for a long time.

And then I had a health crisis.

And I was like,

All right,

I gotta,

I gotta figure this out,

Because I can no longer live the way that I've been living.

And so I was doing some I love,

You know,

Using my imagination when I meditate.

So going on journeys or having adventures or what have you really helps me.

But lately,

I've been thinking about this kind of meditation.

I think it's called insight meditation,

Where you look at a candle flame.

Are you familiar with that?

Yeah,

Candle gazing or flame gazing?

Yes.

Yeah.

And this I was listening to this gentleman on this podcast,

And he was talking about how this Buddhist practice of doing that for a long time,

And then you close your eye and you look at the candle flame inside your eye.

And then the next step is the candle flame inside your eye disappears.

And you see a red or a green I think I don't know,

It's it's a process.

Anyway,

I thought how fascinating.

And by the way,

For 1000s and 1000s and 1000s of years,

All of these ancient traditions are saying,

Hey,

Everybody,

You should be doing this.

Yes,

Yeah.

Well,

Candle gazing is fantastic.

It's fascinating,

Because of what you're saying.

As you look at it is sort of temporarily burns the image into your mind.

So after you've gazed at it for a little while,

You can close your eyes and you still see it,

But often the color inverts,

Like you're saying.

So one of the effects of meditation,

Like if you go into stillness,

Like you,

You know,

It typically doesn't happen to beginners,

It's like a product of having a deep practice for that with a cumulative kind of build up of,

Of practice.

That being said,

It also is not something that you can force.

So maybe there are plenty of beginners who have had this experience,

But where you kind of are able to see the mind's eye,

Or you are able to see the third eye,

And,

You know,

It might be like a purplish sphere type of thing.

And sometimes it has like a white star in it,

That candle gazing kind of,

I feel like it sort of imprints or helps you to train to be able to facilitate not facilitate,

But like to be able to perceive it.

So this is sort of separate,

But a practice that has kind of come to me in non meditation time that I've been playing with a little bit is like when I take my dog on a W,

I will be looking through the trees,

But like looking specifically trying to see leaves on the far side of the tree,

Trying to see the depth of the tree trying to see into the middle of the tree and there's all these different shades of leaves,

Right?

So if you're just looking at the tree,

And you're kind of gazing at it superficially,

You're just going to kind of see the color green,

The color brown,

Maybe it's blossoming,

And there's some white or pink or something in there,

Too.

But if you really take the time to use your vision,

Almost like you're going through a test with an eye doctor,

And they're like,

Can you see the middle of that tree?

Can you see the leaves and and look at the notice the shade that's different in there versus on the outside now try to see the back of it with your physical eyes.

But it's like noticing the depth perception and using something like a tree helps you to be able to navigate through your consciousness when you're in like a meditative state or that hypnagogic state between wakefulness and sleep,

Or sleep and wakefulness,

You know,

When you're waking up,

Or when you're falling asleep,

There is that really fruitful time where your consciousness is lucid,

You're not quite asleep,

You might notice things that you wouldn't normally notice in that state.

But depth perception,

For me,

Has been a factor in like being able to perceive visuals and have kind of multidimensional experiences.

And using my physical eyes,

When I'm out and about,

And I'm not in the meditative,

In a meditative state,

It feels like there is a training that's just sort of organically happening.

But it because there is this focus,

Even when you're not,

Like when you're in those states.

So the candle gazing,

For example,

Or seeing the spiritual eye in a meditative state,

It's kind of there is a focus,

Like with your brain,

There's a where is your awareness within your brain,

When that's happening,

Zeroing it in,

Because you can start to find pathways to places that will give experiences.

And that takes training,

It takes patience,

It takes experience.

But all so candle gazing kind of goes into that where you know,

It kind of burns that and I'm saying burns that that's not the right way to say it.

But you maybe can experience if you've done it,

You probably understand what I'm saying.

But there is that like ability to sort of use your focus,

Use the focus of the eyes,

But even with your eyes closed,

Or the the attention and where is your focus within your brain,

With how you're perceiving that with your eyes closed.

You know,

I think meditation obviously is different for every person,

Just because different things work for different people,

Even in,

You know,

Candle gazing,

Or how I said,

I like to go on these adventures where I imagine things in my mind where I'm traveling or going places or meeting spirits or what what have you.

You know,

No one meditation is going to be perfect for every single person.

And but the one thing that I have understood or heard over and over again,

Is that with meditation with a prolonged practice of meditation,

All of a sudden,

Reality suddenly begins to unravel itself.

And you start seeing things that you might not expect.

That might be a little confusing.

And you're like,

What is happening here?

I don't know what's happening here.

But it kind of not only you know,

Of course,

Deepak Chopra says,

Please meditate every day,

Because it'll help your immune system,

It'll help your mood,

It'll,

You know,

Your health will be it,

It's so beneficial.

But,

You know,

He doesn't really,

As far as the books that I read,

Get into how,

Oh,

My goodness,

Strange things start happening.

Yes,

They can,

For sure.

And I love what you're talking about.

There's not one meditation that's right for everybody.

And that is and I,

You know,

I know how creative you are,

And how like that is such a big expression of you.

You can and so it makes perfect sense that for you meditation involves a journey,

It involves creativity,

Other people might be really analytical,

And,

You know,

Want to do things step by step.

And they,

You know,

Are very in their brains,

And they really need to come into their bodies.

And so that they can use their body to help them overcome that super analytical side,

Because the analytical side actually can be a big barrier for us in meditation.

And I come from a very analytical brain,

I have an intellect that I prized very much and was very prized throughout school throughout my corporate career.

And,

And it still,

You know,

Is something,

You know,

It's not like I've changed 180 degrees,

I still have a strong intellect.

But I really have worked a lot to lessen the grip of my,

You know,

Left brain,

So to say.

But there are so many different ways to meditate.

And there are so many benefits.

And there are so many like facets to focus on.

So I think you said Deepak Chopra,

Is that the example that you so you know,

Deepak is,

You know,

Has a huge following.

And he's really,

As far as I can tell,

Very driven to bring meditation to a lot of people and meet them where they are.

Right.

And so for a lot of people,

Feeling better is going to be that might be the most persuasive thing,

Like,

Oh,

I can control my immune system through this,

I can control my,

My anxiety,

You know,

And that is perfect.

And it's so true.

And it's perfectly valid.

And as they develop a practice,

As they step a toe in,

And then they get ankle deep,

And they get calf deep,

And they get knee deep,

And they keep going deeper into the waters,

Yes,

They're going to get more than just the immune system boost,

The memory boost,

The I feel good,

I have more patience,

I don't feel so anxious.

Because there are so many benefits where,

You know,

We're kind of inadvertent,

Well,

For many people inadvertently kind of working with our DNA,

Or working with the subconscious,

We're healing wounds,

We don't even know we've had.

Yeah.

You're like,

Yeah,

I know about that.

So there are so many different things happening.

And there are things that we kind of bring our conscious awareness to,

To move the needle for us,

Or to intend to move the needle for us.

But there is like,

Usually with,

I would say with every single thing happening at any given moment in everybody's lives,

We're only aware of a small fraction of the depth of experience that we're having.

And things like hypnosis can show us this,

Like when,

You know,

Just very,

Like,

Very 3d examples of that are,

You know,

If somebody is trying to,

You know,

Like a witness of a crime or something,

You know,

Hear stories about they hypnotize them,

And suddenly they can remember the license plate number.

And,

You know,

And it's like,

But they couldn't remember it in their conscious awareness.

It's like,

They're,

We're catching so much,

We're taking in so much data,

But only a very small amount of it consciously.

And so things like that apply to meditation as well,

Where it's like,

Yeah,

We might be really calming ourselves using the breath,

Really invoking a sense of calm and peace.

And we'll feel that and we'll connect with that.

But it often,

There is so much more also that's happening.

And it can start to shift our reality,

Which I think is really exciting.

I really,

Really love shifting my perspective,

Shifting my reality.

I love when strange things happen.

I love when I learn strange things that like I said,

Like just pushing against the borders of what I believe and what I think is possible.

When I come up against something that's like,

You can't do that,

You know,

Like that's not possible.

And then I'm like,

Or is it let me what don't I know,

You know,

Because there's just so much going on all the time.

So yeah,

All of that.

Well,

The thing that I thought was really fascinating,

You know,

I haven't meditated for a few weeks,

Just because my life's been in such upheaval.

And I'm just trying to find some balance in general.

But one of the things I noticed that it was truly unexpected for me was,

I became I started weeping more and crying more.

And it's it was like it opened this,

This kind of level of just sorrow and grief,

That maybe was just under the surface,

But I'd kept button down.

And that was certainly not expected at all.

I did not expect that.

And I thought,

Am I going crazy?

But then I did some research.

And other people were like,

Oh,

Yeah,

This happened to me what you start meditating,

And it opens up this kind of this,

I call it a softer space for me to be in.

But you know,

My my second question always is,

Did you grow up in a religious household?

And,

You know,

Did you even expect when you were a kid to be in this place,

Where meditation is,

Is kind of important to you and something that you want to investigate and,

And bring to the masses through your podcast?

Was that even anything you thought about?

What a great question.

And I would say I didn't grow up in a super religious household.

I grew up in the Midwest,

I'm still,

Or I would say I am again in the Midwest.

Because I lived in Europe,

I've lived in Europe a couple of times.

And but I,

So it's around a lot,

You know,

I am no stranger to church,

And my family has had periods of going to church.

But and I was always interested in always interested in spirit,

Always interested in God.

But more like the church,

And again,

Plenty of experience in church,

But didn't really grow up in a religious household.

But I didn't really understand church very well,

You know,

As a Christian church.

I,

The stories just kind of skip around.

And they're so ancient,

You know,

So they're talking about things that,

You know,

The lifestyle is different.

And it was just very confusing,

Because,

You know,

The story,

A lot of the stories talk about,

You know,

Jesus sort of rebelling against authority and being this,

You know,

Loving,

Like really trying to teach love and compassion.

But then like,

You see what's going on in church.

And sometimes that doesn't really,

They don't go together,

Which is confusing as well.

But I was always interested in in like,

Paranormal things.

So you and I were talking,

You know,

Before kind of before we started about ghost stories.

And I have always been drawn to ghost stories.

And you know,

As a child,

They scared me.

But then like,

As I grew up,

I was that was like,

My number one party question,

If there was a lull in the conversation is like,

Do you have a ghost story?

You know,

Have you ever have you ever had a ghost come in and or,

Or ETS,

Or aliens or whatever?

I've just found it really fascinating.

And I think it's because it's the like,

The verification that there's more that's happening beyond the physical,

And be an after we die,

Like that was always very interesting to me,

Angel stories,

Very interested in angels,

Growing up.

So very much interested.

I remember my mom had I was like 10 or something,

Or maybe I was in middle school.

And my mom had gotten from the library,

This book that was it was entitled,

Phone calls from the dead.

And I was like,

What is this book?

And she and I was like,

Can I read it?

And she goes,

Ah,

No,

I think you'd get scared.

So I wasn't allowed to read it.

But I remember like,

When she wasn't home,

I did like,

Leaf through it a little bit and just was very careful with it because I didn't want to get scared.

But it was like,

You know,

That kind of thing,

I was very drawn to.

And,

And then when I was,

You know,

Graduated from college,

I did a little a couple of years of work in the move to England,

And lived there for a few years.

And when I was there,

Maybe it was the people that I was hanging out with,

Or what or the time of life that we were in,

Because we were all in our 20s.

But I had no outlet for any sort of like spiritual or paranormal,

You know,

Even like discussions,

It wasn't something that we talked about,

Everybody that I hung out with tended to be very,

Like,

Just in the material world.

And,

And when and I,

You know,

You just grow up in the culture you grow up with,

You're used to the friends that you're with,

That you're used to.

And I remember before I moved to England,

That was a it was just common that we'd start talking about kind of unusual things.

That was just like where the conversation would go a lot of the time.

So I feel like that time living in England sort of made me a lot more reinforce that left brain,

And kind of shut down a little bit more of that interest in the supernatural and the sort of weirder stuff,

Because I was seeing like,

I was just sort of subconsciously getting the bumping up against walls a lot whenever I was trying to engage in that way.

So it really wasn't until like,

My journey to meditation came through crisis.

So my life really fell apart with the death of my sister in law who I was very close with.

And that was just followed very quickly by many,

Like my,

My dog died a couple of weeks after that.

And then my stepdad was having a spinal stenosis and had to have surgery on his brainstem.

And then my mother in law was hit by motorbike when she was crossing the street.

And then my stepmom was in the ICU with heart disease,

Heart failure,

And had a heart transplant.

About six months after my sister in law passed away.

So that all happened in a very,

Very quick timeframe.

And we were living in Italy at the time.

So I had my kids and my husband,

We so we weren't near either of our families.

It just felt like the rug got got pulled out from under me.

And that was when I really kind of needed to go deeper.

I wanted I had felt drawn to meditation,

But hadn't been able to really develop a practice.

I hadn't been able to.

I just sat there and thought,

You know,

And I'm like,

This is not what I'm supposed to do.

And I never and then I just sort of got bored with it because I wasn't getting any,

You know,

It was like,

I could just sit here and,

And think while I watch TV,

Why don't I just do that,

You know?

So I would just leave the practice.

And then when things really got real,

I found a teacher and,

But I was pretty agnostic by that point.

And so it wasn't even though I was I was learning from monks,

Funnily enough,

But very kind of keeping the God part at arm's length,

And really interested in more of like what you're talking about Deepak Chopra,

Where it's like,

I really just want to feel calm.

I want I know that there I feel like there are breath techniques that will induce a specific mental state.

That's what I want that type of thing.

Like I want cause and effect.

And I'm not really I don't want to get into like,

Deities,

I don't want to have to pray to a certain way or anything,

You know,

And that kind of credit.

So I sympathize very much with what you're talking about with things starting to kind of open up with meditation when you approach it with a certain intention,

And then it just sort of like expands you.

And before you know it,

It's like,

Like,

For me,

Starting with meditation with no connection with God really always an intrigue.

So it's always funny,

Like,

I still always stayed interested,

Like I would read books about reincarnation,

I would read books about children remembering past lives or about the effect of prayer.

But it felt like I was just reading about what other people experience.

And it was it was intriguing,

But I was not like that.

Like I didn't have those gifts.

I didn't have that connection.

Some people are born with it.

Some people aren't that that was kind of how I how I understood it.

And but I was still drawn to it and curious about it.

But through my meditation practice,

It kind of went from very secular to this is all about God.

This is all about connecting to my my soul.

This is all about like opening myself up for what do you need me for?

You know,

Come in,

Come in,

Bring in the highest vibration that I can hold.

Use me inspire me in the highest way that's going to be the biggest benefit for whoever you need to reach,

You know.

So it in it.

So it's just been it's been an evolution.

So it's kind of like,

Yes,

I've seen it back to your original question.

It's like,

I've seen whispers of it.

But it is surprising to see,

Like,

If I step back now,

And I see the different versions of myself throughout life throughout my life,

I'm like,

Huh,

I do remember having a numerology session,

Like 10 years ago or something.

And the woman saying like,

I'm,

She's like,

Oh,

Yeah,

You're a spiritual teacher.

And I was like,

A corporate executive.

I worked for IBM.

I was an executive,

Like my client was a pharma,

You know,

I was a young mother,

Life going a million miles an hour and spending very,

Very little attention on my spiritual life.

And I was like,

What in the world is this woman talking about?

Like,

She got my numbers mixed up with her next client.

You know,

And she's like,

Yeah,

You you are very strong in the spiritual as a spiritual teacher.

So that kind of thing where I'm like,

Huh,

What?

Can I money back?

And so that version of me like kind of,

You know,

Hearing what whispers of what might come and so I can Yeah,

It's it's weird.

Yeah,

There are like whispers and echoes.

And but it definitely was not one arrow pointing through time going like,

Yep,

Here,

She's still on track.

She's still on track.

Here she comes.

You know,

When we kind of first started this conversation,

You referenced,

I think you said portals in the body.

Is that what you said?

Now?

Are you talking about chakras?

Or other portals?

I'm just curious for my own edification.

Yes,

I mean,

The chakras are portals.

And I have just been exploring,

Because I've known that for a while and intellectually,

But it's been fairly new of actually embodying and exploring it and being like,

Oh,

You can spiral into these and actually go through them.

So So yes,

To chakras,

But not necessarily doing like specific chakra work to facilitate that.

I'm just curious,

Because,

You know,

When I was living in Portland,

I didn't believe in any of this stuff at all.

It was all ridiculous.

And then one day I went into my flower essence practitioner totally hung over like a dog.

And she started working on me.

Because before we would figure out the essence,

She would do some body work on me.

And she got to my abdomen.

And all of a sudden,

This I felt this massive,

It was like a vacuum cleaner had been plugged into my stomach or wherever down there.

And it sucked.

So I felt like this massive rush of energy just sucked out of me and go up.

And she said,

Whoa,

Did you feel that?

And I said,

Oh,

My God,

What just happened?

And she said,

Oh,

My gosh,

Your chakra just released a massive amount of energy.

I felt it.

And I thought,

Okay,

I guess,

Now that I have experience,

I can't deny it anymore.

And I was no longer hung over,

By the way,

It was all gone.

I felt completely normal.

And so that's one of those experiences that I thought I needed to have this so that I could understand that this is real.

You know,

This actually is a real thing.

That these things happen,

These things are in our bodies.

And that these ancient traditions and texts are speaking the truth,

People.

And that maybe we should pay some attention.

So I just love this conversation with you.

I just have to tell you that.

Me too.

So,

You know,

The main question of the podcast is,

I would love to hear a story or stories,

It can be more than one,

Where you feel like you've witnessed,

Or you yourself have experienced something magical,

Or miraculous or mysterious,

Something that kind of changed your life,

Whatever you'd like to share.

Okay,

So I'm going to share something that has kind of resurfaced.

It happened about a year and a half ago or so.

And it's been really interesting how time has kind of like spiraled back and this has become relevant again.

So I had a friend of mine on the podcast last week,

For a live stream.

His name is Ruben Langdon.

He is the creator and host of interview with Ed,

Which is an exploration into extra dimensionals.

So Ed is ED extra dimensional.

So he kind of began this,

It's on Gaia.

And he usually interviews channelers.

And they so part of it is get to know the channeler.

And then part of it is channel,

You know,

They'll channel and he'll ask questions and things.

And I had gone on a CE5 with Ruben,

Do you know what the CE5 is?

So it's,

It stands for close encounters of the fifth kind.

And yeah,

So in just in case,

So I can see like the light switched on for you.

But in case anybody's listening that hasn't heard of this before.

So Steve,

Dr.

Steven Greer is a UFO specialist and expert,

And he kind of developed this protocol.

Close encounters of the fifth kind is human initiated.

So I can't remember,

There's like one through five,

And maybe it even goes beyond five.

And I think they're like one of them,

Like,

One of the numbers is like seeing a UFO,

Like you just see it.

Another one is you don't see a UFO,

But you feel like you've had telepathic communication,

Or maybe it's a dream or something,

But it's you've received information from what you think is an extraterrestrial.

Another one would be actually going on a ship,

Like feeling that you have a memory of being on a ship.

There's another one,

What would that one be?

I can't remember now.

But the fifth one is human initiated.

So it's,

It's trying to connect with otherworldly beings.

And so there's a whole protocol that he created,

Where people get together,

And they,

You know,

You use meditation,

You,

You raise your frequency,

And you're,

You know,

You're out in the out in the open in a dark sky space,

So that you're kind of creating the conditions where you might be able to see something.

And so Ruben was hosting one of these,

And it was out in Big Bear,

California.

And so I went out there,

And we were a small group.

And we had this woman was doing singing bowls,

And it was she was just incredible.

And it was very much an inward journey.

So we really spent a lot of time with our eyes closed meditating,

Kind of getting our consciousness connected with space and with our higher self.

And with our,

You know,

If we have a galactic team,

Kind of galactic team sort of thing.

And we did breath work.

And so I did this breath work.

And when we were finished with the breath work,

I saw this in with my eyes closed,

But then I opened my eyes,

I kept seeing it.

But it was like these thin golden lines that were in a specific formation,

It was sort of like teardrop shaped,

But,

But angular.

So like thin,

Really thin golden lines.

And it looked like there was like a rose quartz in the middle,

But not a solid rose quartz.

It was like it had this pinkish,

Rosy hue that was like emanating from the middle of it out.

And I started weeping.

And,

And like,

I feel like maybe you're similar from what you were saying earlier,

Like,

I'm not a huge crier,

I'm not afraid to cry,

But I'm not one of those people that like,

Cries at the drop of a hat.

Saying that sometimes commercials make me cry.

So what,

What do I know,

Maybe I'm an easy crier,

But,

But this depth of emotion was strange.

There,

Everybody's like,

Are you okay?

You know,

Are you?

Are you hurt?

You know,

And I'm like,

It's so beautiful.

I don't know why I'm crying.

But and what's interesting about that,

I mean,

That was amazing.

But I don't know why I had such a profound response to it.

So it wasn't like I saw this,

And I understood that it means such and such.

I didn't know,

I didn't know what it was.

I didn't know why it moved me so much.

It was crystal clear,

Which I'm not,

I do see visuals.

Sometimes it's not my strongest sense.

But this was remarkably clear.

But I was like,

Kind of had to grasp at straws at two as to guess at to what it might be.

I'm like,

I don't know if it's some sort of technology that's important to me,

Like another version of like a,

You know,

To my spirit,

You know,

And,

And I do feel like I am interested in ETS and that whole phenomenon.

And,

You know,

I do believe that some people,

Myself included,

Have like,

Help assistance from galactic groups or galactic beings.

So I'm like,

I don't know if this is some sort of technology that another part of myself or,

Or a guide of mine like that,

I'm familiar with this at a very deep level.

But anyway,

There was no like intellectual understanding.

But what's really interesting is because I had Ruben on last week,

This came up,

And I've only talked about it one other time on my podcast.

And that was shortly after it happened.

And so I was just kind of explaining,

You know,

He was talking a little bit about what CE fives are.

And I was like,

Yeah,

I have this profound experience with you.

Because I've done three CE fives with him.

And this was the very first one.

And,

And I'm like,

And I still don't know why.

But you know,

He was there.

So he knows,

Like,

Yeah,

You were like sobbing.

And so what was so it's just kind of like,

That was fresh on my mind,

Because we were talking about it.

Well,

Then I started reading gene keys.

So gene keys is,

It sort of came from human design and the I Ching.

And Richard Rudd sort of is the author,

But he kind of what he received these,

This information,

It's 64 gene keys,

It's to do with your astrology,

You know,

You kind of like human design,

You put your birth date and your birth time,

And then it tells you what your your keys are.

And I have heard about gene keys for a little while.

And I've had a gene keys reading and I have had people on my podcast talk about it.

And I've never really felt drawn to read the book,

I actually was put off by the book,

Because a friend of mine who had read it was like,

I don't know,

I got a lot more out of my reading than the book,

I would say you either need one or the other.

And the book didn't really do much for me.

So I didn't,

I didn't read it.

But for some reason,

I actually I did have somebody on my podcast recently who reignited my interest in it.

So I got the book,

And I'm reading the introduction.

And the introduction itself was like,

I mean,

It was really activating.

And there was one sentence in this book that said something to the effect of your you have a hollow,

Hollow genetic,

Like a hologram of your genes type of thing that is within you,

And it is your own unique sacred geometry.

And that's what this sentence said.

And I was like,

Oh,

I think that's what I saw.

I was gonna say talk about beautiful to be able to kind of get a peek behind the curtain and see some of your own sacred geometry.

And I do want to say to everybody,

There's a really fabulous,

Because I love documentaries,

There's a fabulous documentary on Amazon,

About with interviewing Dr.

Stephen Greer.

And if you get a chance,

Watch it,

It's it's really actually kind of fascinating.

And,

You know,

And this is,

You know,

I've never seen a UFO,

I've never had an experience of another,

I've certainly had a lot of lot of experiences that are can't be explained,

But I've never had any ET experiences,

That kind of stuff.

But that being said,

I think that is such so beautiful.

And by the way,

Everyone,

Human design is spooky.

Okay,

Check it out,

Because it is eerie,

That this human being basically got this download.

And it's a another beautiful way to know the self to get to know the self.

And I'm excited to investigate gene keys now.

But I do have to say,

You know,

I love TV as a writer,

A screenwriter,

I'm always watching shows,

Partially because I'm lazy.

And partially because it's good research for me.

But I was watching Resident Alien.

Are you familiar?

Oh,

I love that show.

Okay.

So what I found particularly fascinating was in season two,

They interviewed the had these little snippets of cast members,

People who worked on the show,

Who'd seen UFOs.

And they told their story.

Have you gotten to that part yet?

Well,

I watched both seasons,

But I haven't watched the newest ones.

Okay,

Third season out.

Yeah.

I don't remember that.

Yeah.

So I'm like the woman,

The redhead who plays the cop,

She had one when she was a child.

And as a matter of fact,

Like a whole storyline in the second season is based on her experience as a child,

And how she wasn't believed.

And so you know,

It's not and these are people everywhere every day are like,

Hey,

I had an experience I can't explain.

I saw something I can't explain.

I was I'm interviewing Dr.

Erica Elliott tomorrow.

She's unbelievable.

And she did a ton of mountaineering in Ecuador when she was younger.

And,

You know,

All the guides,

All the guys she climbed with,

They're like,

Oh,

Yeah,

I mean,

When we're on those mountains,

We see these weird ships with red lights,

You know,

You can't,

We don't know what they are.

But in the mountaineering community,

It's like,

Oh,

Yeah,

There's another one.

You know,

This is this is not something that's,

They don't think it's weird.

They don't think it's atypical.

It's just very,

Like,

That's what happens.

And I think it's interesting to live in a culture and a society in this country,

At least I feel like it's just not accepted,

Or you are considered to be crazy,

Quote,

Unquote,

Or out of your mind.

If you even want to talk about these things,

But again,

I've had enough experiences that are just so bizarre,

And so strange.

And I've seen some things that I'm like,

Okay,

Who am I to say?

Right?

This isn't real.

Yes.

Well,

And you mentioned Dr.

Steven Greer's documentary,

I know he's got at least three out there.

The very first one I think is called undisclosed.

So what is called undisclosed?

Something like that,

If not,

But um,

And he talks about the whole campaign that we've been under as a society of the in the American culture,

That's been very deliberate to ostracize to make it seem crazy.

And it's,

You know,

In conjunction with the media,

But there are,

You know,

There are whistleblowers are like,

Yeah,

We had a story,

And we were paid by the government,

A bag of money to,

You know,

I was there,

I saw the transaction,

We met in a park,

I'm kind of,

You know,

I'm filling in some details here.

But it's something like that,

Where it's like,

We got hush money,

We didn't run the story,

Because the government paid us not to run the story.

And then there are other,

Other programs that were deliberately put in place to use the media to make fun of people who believe,

You know,

And you see this now,

It just we're a product of that.

And I know that I myself has have participated in the other side of it,

Like,

Oh,

They're crazy.

You know,

Because there was a,

The UFO thing for me has been relatively new,

I would say just the last,

Like four or five years have I kind of opened up to that possibility.

I was,

Again,

When I was a kid,

Very interested in it,

Very intrigued by it.

And then I felt that I had grown out of it.

And I'm using air quotes,

If you're just listening to this.

But you know,

It was like,

That was sort of a,

I felt like I'd gone through a rite of passage where I put that behind me.

And then I saw like an adult,

You know,

I could see that this was just fantasy or whatever it was.

And then I had to overcome that as,

You know,

I had different experiences or came across different stories from trusted people.

And yeah,

So it's very interesting.

But he does some steep Dr.

Steven Greer does some interesting work to peel that onion to be like,

Well,

Why do we think that people are crazy in our culture for that?

And where did that come from?

And it's like this whole,

It was a whole purposeful plan and and strategy.

Yeah,

Campaign.

I mean,

You know,

And again,

Like,

I come from a place where I didn't believe in any of this.

Like I was in your camp as well earlier,

Just like these people are crazy.

But then you start having these experiences.

And,

And you're like,

Okay,

Um,

Like something's happening.

And just like with the chakra story,

I told you,

I mean,

It's like,

Okay,

That's real.

And now I know that.

And now I can further investigate other or with human design having my chart done.

Yeah,

I'm like,

Holy cannoli.

Are you joking?

I mean,

When I got my chart,

I thought I'm going insane.

This cannot be real.

But I'm like,

This is me.

And so there there are beautiful ways to know the self human design.

But there's also I think you have to approach the world with wonder and an open heart.

And I love your story,

Because what a gorgeous,

You know,

Way to get to know yourself to have this vision of these really thin gossamer golden kind of triangular teardrop figures with this incredible luminescent pink energy.

I mean,

If that's not the most gorgeous introduction to who you are in yourself,

I don't know what is no wonder you were crying,

I would have been in the corner wrapped in a fetal position,

Sobbing my eyes out.

Oh,

Well,

Thank you.

That's,

That's so beautiful.

And like I say,

I mean,

This is kind of like where I am right now and how I understand this.

So I'm just holding that very lightly.

That's kind of again,

Like I say,

The synchronicities and the kind of way that life has woven the tapestry in a way with where I am right now.

That's what I'm feeling connected to that.

So you know,

We'll see maybe in another year and a half,

It will show up again,

This will pop to the surface again,

And then I'll get some more insight.

And I don't know,

It's a journey.

It is a journey.

And what a beautiful thing to have as a touchstone in your life.

You can always go back to that.

And what a huge gift.

Yes,

Yes.

Thank you.

I mean,

These gifts,

They come when we least expect them,

But probably when they're most needed.

Absolutely.

Yes.

All right,

Everyone.

Thanks for listening to another episode of the podcast.

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The gorgeous Kara Goodwin for being so kind,

And for sharing all of her stories.

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