Interview: Elizabeth Makepeace~ A Miraculous Car Crash!

In this longer episode Elizabeth Makepeace tells about what happened one day when she was younger...and how a visit to a psychic placed her on the path she was meant to be on! There is mystery and magic in this world, if only we keep our eyes open to it!

Transcript

Greetings everybody and happy Sunday. It's time for your Sunday episode of the Bite-sized Blessings podcast. In this episode I'm introducing you to Elizabeth Makepeace and once again another splendid human being and another incredible interview. Elizabeth has had many experiences that kind of defy credulity. She tells a story about being in a car crash. It was a pretty catastrophic crash but somehow she survived so she tells a story about that. Elizabeth calls herself an intuitive warrior and honestly has some really incredible stories that she shares in this episode. But the big thing about Elizabeth and the thing that she really emphasizes and that we talk about in this episode is that we are all creating what we experience and we get to that a little bit later on in the conversation but especially she wants us all to know that you are not broken. We all identify as being individuals and separate from each other but this is just part of the illusion and many of my guests have said the same thing. We're actually powerful beings that can tap into the very essence of the universe and we're all connected. She tells some really provocative and interesting stories in this episode but enough about all that it's time for me to actually introduce the guest. So here's my very next episode with Elizabeth Makepeace. First of all she told me about a car accident I had and told me my dad was there and four others and you know a car accident that no one knew about. There was no other car so it was just me and I'd done a like 360 in the middle of the road and everyone was like how did you not flip the car and when I said something to her she said that they all sat on the boot of the car so that it didn't flip. How do I self-describe? I'm definitely an introvert. You wouldn't think so online but I need space right? I'm someone that loves to be by myself, A homebody, Someone that I'm very energetic. I tend to feel things a lot and I don't describe myself as an empath though because there's so much definition around empath you know like that we take on other people's stuff. I tend to be someone that can feel energy but I don't necessarily take it on so I'm an observer more than anything else. Other people describe me as very patient, A really good listener, A huge heart. I have a lot of people say that I'm very caring and loving and supportive and nurturing so I just really enjoy being aware of people and what's going on for them and so people tend to gravitate to me because I've got that motherly energy you know like people feel comfortable sharing their stories with me. They just feel safe and trust me straight away because I just have that energy of you know no judgment because I'm very curious about who people are and I've had some crazy stories told to me that are really wild and had people say I can't believe you didn't judge me for that you know because I might ask wow how did you feel when that experience happened you know and no one's ever asked me that before you know and it was you know like that gives them the opportunity to open up to themselves even more so. I love that and I think that that's you know in the Catholic Church they say everyone's born with some charisms and those are gifts you know the gifts from the gods that are bestowed upon us and and you know my brother sister and I have the charism of people coming up to us and just telling us these stories you know these stories that you think to yourself um wow I we don't even know each other well enough I should I be hearing this and I think that's a really beautiful gift to have where people just kind of implicitly trust you or they feel comfortable with you they feel comforting in your presence so you must kind of exude as you said this kind of motherly air this air of of being open to hearing someone's story what a huge gift to help other people feel safe so they can share that with you. It is and and it's um it's something that we all should have like be way more accepting of each other and aware of you know like we are all here having an experience and whatever your experience is of being human is your experience and and we have the opportunity to understand each other way more when we get to know well how did you come to that or how did you feel you know like it it's so um wholesome or what's the word for it you know like to to hear somebody else's story and how they experience themselves um gives more to me you know like it it's way more um opportunity to express myself and to experience myself you know. And I think that's so beautiful and I love that people just intuit that about you or they feel that about you um when you were a kid did you have a sense like I would love for you to describe what you're doing now right just at this moment in time because we're always evolving we're always changing we're always adapting to this world or our vocation in it but what and as a child did you sense that this is where you were heading or were there any moments where you you understood that maybe your life was going to be somewhat different or singular? I didn't realize but I actually did at the time of course I wasn't conscious of it but um so what I'm doing now is uh I've been a healer for 25 years and I recently came across about four years ago the secrets of alchemy and a process called recoding and so uh because I met the love of my life on the beach in a beautiful fairy tale um experience which we'll share later um I am now supporting women to create conscious relationships so to really find themselves first so that then they can magnetically and energetically attract their see people say soul mate I call it a divine partner right but when I was um when I was little I do remember there was a couple of things I remember the first experience I remember is uh I must have been about six or seven years old and I'm walking past the lounge room and Woodstock because I was born in 71 so Woodstock was being replayed or they were talking about it on the news or something something was going on about Woodstock on the TV and I remember having this moment of looking at it and going oh my gosh I've come down too late and then having this moment of going come down from where and too late for what like what am I talking about um so that was one of the first moments but also my dad was on a kidney machine uh the whole time I was as long as I can remember uh and he had his machine at home so you know three times a week he had to go on for I think it was about six hours if I remember correctly um and I used to help him put it together and you know even as a young age I was you know putting the tubes in and blah blah blah and um on a regular basis I used to say to him because we'd lay lay down on the bed and talk and um I'd say to him I don't want you to die and and cry and he'd like I'm not going to die you know like why would you say that well at 15 years old he got uh a kidney the you know he was the longest in our state to be on machine got a kidney didn't work they needed to take it out and he died when I was 15 and so that was the start of my what are we doing here you know where did he go I had this feeling he was in a library somewhere which was really weird for me and so you know he didn't believe in God because they'd been Christians prior to me but when I'm the youngest so when um when they when he went on the machine he went you know if there is a God he's an arsehole because why would he do this to me right so my auntie I grew up with my auntie being a Christian but in our household there was nothing and so um I was like you know is there a library in heaven where did he go you know so that was the start of me really questioning and starting to draw in where I'm at now you know before I even knew I had any abilities and I think it's really interesting how abilities kind of surface because for some people it can be really abrupt and jarring and alarming for some people it can be a great kind of unraveling or revealing over time that's really gentle and not so scary and so I'm I'm wondering was yours either one of those or in the middle maybe it was a bit jarring I um I so when dad died at 15 didn't know my mom because she was working all the time uh I was grieving big time and spent 10 years like on drugs and you know just completely numbing myself um was with a partner um we were we met at school you know and so at the end of that we had children and I started waking up to I need to clean up my act right I've got I'm a mom now and so we separated and I went and did a diploma in remedial massage and was doing that and then I moved closer to him so that he could see the kids and they could see him and there was this friend of ours that was saying you've got to go and see this psychic right she's amazing and blah blah blah and and I didn't believe in them I thought they were charlatans you know like she's gonna just take my money and so anyway she kept on hassling me you know and so I ended up going just to shut her up and I walked into this woman's uh house and she said what are you doing here you obviously you know you can do what I do but obviously you don't know it and through that process and I you know I'm thinking oh here we go you know this is this is her trying to get more money out of me but um in the process of being there she uh first of all she she um told me about a car accident I had and told me my dad was there and four others um and you know a car accident that no one knew about I there was no other car so um it was just me and I'd done a like 360 in the middle of the road and everyone was like how did you not flip the car and when I said something to her she said there they all sat on the boot of the car so that it didn't flip and so I actually had I actually had this touch from my dad it was the first time I had you know a spiritual energy touch me um and so when I went home I had all these energies like for two or three days and so I rang her up and I'm like what's going on this is freaking me out uh and she said they're all just happy that you've woken up it'll calm down soon and I said well can I make another appointment and she said no I'm like huh I thought you were you know like I thought you'd want to take my money and she now I you know she obviously was genuine because she recognized that I needed to go on this path by myself and so I had no idea um what I was doing had no friends that were spiritual um found myself in a little um spiritual group you know um center doing meditation and through that process um I think it was within a month I found myself in a little um group and we were all doing past life regression and um so yeah it was seven years of past life regression training but um those first you know like I had no idea what I was doing and also because I didn't have any background was meeting all these people that were like um oh you know we're we're Lemurian sisters or where you know we know each other from Sirius and I'm like huh what are you what are you even talking about you know and um oh I've got this guy next to me you know he's a Native American Indian and his name's Fred you know like I haven't got any of this you know like so you start feeling really inadequate so you know you've got no idea what you're doing and no one actually sharing with you that what's actually happening for you internally and what you take as just natural is what all these people are talking about but they've languaged it a different way and so you know I remember when I recognised that actually I had this if I tuned into it I just was taking it as as you know just part of who I am as soon as I recognised that I had this thing I'm like I'm on a mission to share with people that we actually already have what other people are talking about if we just tune into it so no one's no one's specialer than anyone else we all have the opportunity to tap into whatever we want to and I think what's really what I really resonates for me I mean thank you for sharing all of that but what really resonates is what you said at the end which is no one is more special than everyone else than anyone else um and and what is important for me in that statement is we live in a a world a society a culture not everyone okay I'm making a blanket statement where being recognised and getting famous is the rule of the day and some people seem to think or feel that you know those likes those approvals those you know the money you're making all indicates that you're more special more precious you know more important than those around you and it's really interesting to just be out in the world and witness people's behavior when they do believe that they're better than everyone else or they are more important and so I think it's it's so essential that no matter what happens in your life however much money you make however many likes you have on your tiktok or whatever we're all exactly the same no one's more important than anyone else we're all here you know I just tell people you know first of all I know nothing okay so even you know and that's why I haven't started my tiktok is because I really want to make sure that my voice and what is coming out of my mouth is is real and important and contributing versus um I haven't found that yet I haven't found that voice yet but I also say I mean I say I know nothing everyone okay hello know nothing and number two is um it's gonna take some time for me okay because uh I I you know I don't know what I want to contribute oh you want to say something yes I I totally understand that I know nothing because um that is the premise of my whole being is innocence because when you can step into your innocence and be in that space of opportunity and potential then you're more likely to be able to experience mastery because masters have that ability of just being completely open to all possibilities and um knowing nothing like we have the experience of holding data inside us and so when I'm sharing information I'm sharing it from my perspective right but your perspective could be completely different and so you know we share our perspective and so that's what's so beautiful we were having that conversation before we started that when um you know you know something and you know getting that information out and being able to share it with with whoever is available to to listen to it but also receiving the information from somebody else that might not be your information but it's really interesting to listen to somebody else's perspective of life and allow them to be that like allow them to be whoever they are and um to experience themselves in whatever fashion that they want to experience themselves you know and um we're all unfortunately because of the way we've grown up you know it's just the way the structure is we're all looking for validation external to ourselves because you know we've all had some form of unmet validation through our childhood and so that's what what's going on you know here we are all trying to validate our existence by the tiktok likes and the you know all of those things right instead of going internal and recognizing that we're valid just because we exist I remember um two things that just come up for me I remember you know I moved down from the rainforest I was living up in far north Queensland in you know the Daintree rainforest and um or up that way and I'd moved back to Sydney um in a suburb that's like you know it's called Blacktown it's it's like the ghetto in in this America right it's um it's where I grew up to look after my mum and I was I was doing it hard right like it was you know I I remember I used to just tune into a tree or a crow just to find nature you know like and it was really challenging but I remember this moment where I'm at the shopping centre just getting food for me and mum and I was at the the cash register and this woman walks past with her trolley and she was just another empowered woman and we just I looked up and we both just smiled at each other this knowing of yeah I see you you see me and like it was just this smile right and it was just enough to shift my energy to remind myself who I am you know oh there's another beautiful soul you know and it was it was just that elevation right just a smile sometimes the simple things I was gonna say you know my second question always is did you grow up in a religious household you kind of already answered that a little bit um but some people would look at maybe some of the stories you've shared already some of the things you've related the way you you know position yourself to the world um how you interact with it or interpret it and they say okay I don't understand that and that's just a little strange um did anything like in your child that helped support your evolution at all into where you are today I've got to tell you I didn't grow up in a in a religious household but my auntie is very uh you know Christian and whenever she could get her hands on me she would you know take me to church or Sunday school I do not classify myself as a Christian out there in the world but I do consider myself to be very pure in in my Christianity um I've had several experiences with Jesus myself and uh things that you know might be a bit controversial because not always aligned with what you know the the church or or the bible but um I know for a fact I remember it was I was around about seven or eight years old and I was doing something in the lounge room on the floor in my auntie's house and she was in the kitchen and we were having a conversation about Jesus I can't remember exactly what she said but I do remember saying to her so you're telling me that if any time I'm in trouble or dark alley or something goes wrong all I've got to do is call on Jesus and he will come and she said yes and I distinctly remember this shift in my energy like this flash of shivering over my body that I now feel um as I've matured it was a spiritual baptism and um I've been in some pretty hairy experiences you know 10 years on drugs was um and you know all the things I have never once not been protected not being guided the right way you know all through those experiences I've also um once I woke up I've always always had Christians in my life to the point like I remember this time when I was like why do I have all these Christians in my life you know like am I supposed to be a Christian or and I remember someone saying did you ever think that you're supposed to be in their life like oh I hadn't thought of that you know and um I had this moment where I I had a you know a Christian in my life she was about 70 she was the only the first woman I met when I moved up to Far North Queensland and she was really onto me about being a Christian and getting into the Bible and church and everything and I had this moment of I was questioning and I'm washing up right the kids are at school washing up what what am I supposed to be doing should I be a Christian but this doesn't feel right and this doesn't feel right and so I sort of just took my hands out and went and laid on the first bed that was available my kids one of my children's beds and I had Jesus come to me with a crown of thorns on his head now my auntie was a Christian and my next door neighbours were Catholic so crown of thorns to me was a Catholic thing so I wouldn't have put that on in my imagination so it was a bit of a shock like why has he got that on his head you know and he said to me um why do you think you would be treated any different than I did I was and I had this moment of oh my gosh they they killed you and and it was like you know get back off your soapbox Elizabeth and just you know be humble and be okay with what what you believe in um I then going through my life I've always had this strong connection to Jesus long story short became a Christian at one stage through actually through a business mentor uh that I went to her events and she was um teaching from the bible and I read the bible cover to cover twice because I realized I was making a judgment of the book you know so amazing information right and I became a Christian through reading the bible um got burnt by some Christians and I was coming out of that and I was at another business mentor uh sorry business event and they were getting you to upscale you know into the next level and blah blah blah and I had that moment again of being seen and you're supposed to be humble and um it was this moment of what am I doing and you know because I had this story about the two trees right which tree am I in am I in the tree of knowledge or am I in the tree of good and evil and so it was you know doing my head in anyway I had this moment and I had this transformational meditation at the end and I had just created through this business training a Facebook group called women of light so I've now changed that name but that's what it was called to start with women of light so that would have been about a month before and so we're in this meditation and the guy was trying to be Tony Robbins right so he's really loud and obnoxious on the microphone the music's blaring and everywhere there was about 50 people in the room we're all standing up and again I have this doubt am I doing the right thing which tree am I in and I have this memory this thing pops in my head that says in the bible it says if you call on Jesus Christ no one else can come you call my name and I will be the one that comes so I called on him and I had this wash of peace just come over my body and this voice in my head stay with me stay with me and I just broke down and fell on the ground because I realized throughout all of the drug use all of the past life aggression all of the weird things that have happened to me the three shooting stars when I asked for validation all of these weird things that had happened it was all with him and no book no church no person outside of myself would tell me what my relationship was with Christ and I just I just had this breakdown and bawling and crying well when you come out of one of those things you know you start coming back into yourself and realize that you're on the floor in the middle of this meditation with all these people right I start coming back into myself so I'm starting to you know be aware of my surroundings and I start getting up getting ready to get up and I'm standing up and as I'm standing up I hear the music and the music the chorus comes on of whatever the song was I know the song but I can't think of its name and the chorus goes so I just did that women of light facebook group right so the chorus says as I'm standing up light up light up as if you have a choice even if you cannot hear my voice I'm right there by your side and I just smiled and started laughing and dancing and you know I I just knew from that moment on that I'm okay to be where I'm at and what I'm thinking and what I'm doing and and what I'm sharing and all of those things so you know that's my experience and again I will just emphasize that that doesn't mean that I then make any judgment of anyone that has a different experience of Christ or the bible or church or anything like that you know like everyone's on their own journey and it does say in the bible I am the alpha and the omega that's one of the first things that says right so so God is all of this so how can we make judgment of any of it because then we're judging ourselves and we're judging God I have a couple funny things to tell you you know I went to unbeknownst to me when I was so young 18 19 I didn't know I was gonna become an ordained pastor and I didn't know I was gonna be going to seminary and getting a masters of divinity in the future I'm a panentheist but you know that masters of divinity is so freighted right there's so much meaning behind it that maybe is you don't mean and it's unintentional so in college I joined a sorority called Alpha Chi Omega which means the beginning and the end and like 10 years later reflecting on it I realized in the bible in revelation God says I am the alpha and the omega and so for me that's always been I look back at that and it's been important of kind of where my life was going to go unexpectedly but I I think it's also important you know what you said at the end you know God or that energy that spirit shows up in different ways for different people and you know a Christian could have a vision of Buddha or a Buddhist could have a vision of Jesus or you know Muhammad or what have you because those ancient archetypes those energies those those spirits that defy explanation that we can't even conceive of that make themselves small so that we can actually maybe sort of understand what they're saying they don't delineate oh I this person's Muslim maybe I should come as Muhammad or you know or this person's you know Native American maybe I should come as the the great spirit and I have a funny story in 2010 I moved to Florida to help my friend Linda who's going through at the time it was experimental brain surgery for Parkinson's so I was there for two months and there had been just been massive eclipses that had happened and I had been crying since January of 2010 every day and kind of cathartic like I couldn't control it it was so huge my tarot cards were just saying this is a cleansing but I didn't know of what and I was just crying and crying and I went down to Linda's in March driving from Portland to Florida crying every day I thought I am losing my mind I'm losing my mind and I was had been at Linda's for about I would say four to five weeks and I was laying in bed crying again thinking I am losing my mind I need what is happening with me I am it felt like a descent into madness because I just could not stop and all of a sudden this figure came Jesus which I was shocked because I'm not Christian in a lotus position came and said well if you want to start crying just kind of you're gonna have to say that I'm real and I was like what and he said yeah if you if you want to stop crying once you say that I'm real you're gonna stop crying and then he disappeared and I thought okay what just happened I looked around the bedroom and I thought what is going on am I going crazy I don't know what's happening right now and then I thought Jesus oh my gosh what is really even double what's happening because I'm not Christian I don't understand this and so I wrestled with it for a few days but finally I understood that I've been given a glimpse or a vision of something that was outside of myself that was larger than myself you know and this was at a time when I sort of didn't believe in this kind of thing but it was it was so intentional and intense and beyond my understanding that I kind of just acquiesced and I I've always been a romantic at heart and a mystic at heart and I said okay all right okay okay you're real and by God if I didn't stop crying two or three days later all of that pain and sorrow and that whatever I was expressing it disappeared and peace it was just ultimate peace came over me and so you know even though I wasn't Christian you know why would I have a vision of Jesus and it's through time that I've understood you know what they're gonna show up anyway to help us on our path to help us reach the next level or understand something or to give us a message my um my life has been one thing after the other and and that's why I was saying to you like I just just realized you know I need to start sharing some of these stories because it's little things too like I mean I've had you know when I had those Christians in my life the the Margaret that was in my life and um I was doing the past life aggression I you know who am I working for and so I had you know this moment where I um asked the universe you know like I need a sign and I've got three shooting stars um but little things like and and you know I've met the love of my life on the beach which was a really beautiful experience I was just sharing with you I've been a healer for 25 years my maiden name is pain p-a-y-n-e and his last name is make peace like what are the odds right but these little tiny moments so I remember um when I was just starting to work out all this spiritual stuff you know and I you know manifestation and all that sort of stuff and I was living up in Queensland and decided I a single mum decided I wanted to get a new car and so I got alone and I told my mum I was coming down for to Sydney for Christmas told my mum I was coming down and I want to look for a car while I'm up down here and her partner is a backyard mechanic sort of guy and she said oh he's um this guy so his name's Rahim and he actually um knows someone that's selling this car and so I had this list of all the things I wanted I'm like look at how good I am you know like it's manifested already you know and um anyway so I'm in Blacktown my brother was in um Hurstville and so I'm catching this train um backwards and forwards but every time I went past Rockdale like it the train never stopped there there's always just you know one one of the stations you went past for some reason even if I was reading I'd look up right where Rockdale was and what's the big deal with Rockdale and so anyway the day that uh this guy's coming over with the car we're driving back to my mum's house and I get a phone call from her saying um sorry but the guy that was going to sell you the car is a uni student and he's just met this woman and he's not going to go back over to Pakistan so he's not selling the car and I'm like so I went into this hole like I'm not I'm not good at this and blah blah blah right anyway my brother says to me let's have a look we'll go and have a look at some cars so we looked up online and had a list start looking for some cars couldn't find anything he gets really hangry so lunchtime comes and he wants some food so let's stop and get um some food well unbeknown to me we're in Rockdale stop at a cafe sit down outside and we're eating food and I look over and here's this car for sale and so um look over at it exactly what I want ring up the guy that and he said I never take that car out it's my sister's car um you know I can't believe you saw it blah blah blah so we get him you know down some money and and decide to do the transaction so I'm living up in Cairns that's far north Queensland is Cairns and I'm here in Sydney which is like a different state altogether we transfer the um money and I get her information so her last name is um the same as my um stepfather right so Raheem her last name is Raheem she lives in Cairns Avenue and when I'm saying this is how it works right so I'm showing Raheem and he looks at it she lives in the same block of flats as I was going to get the from the first guy the first car in a whole different suburb and she lives in 16 and he lives in 19 so even the six of the nine it was just like one thing after the other and like okay that's my car and I had those sort of experiences all the time moved from Oleander Street to Oleander Drive um had you know moved into a into a house in Kingswood and my um in the same street the same name street and I won't say it because my brother still lives there but um I live in this street in in Kingswood he lives in the same street in Springwood and it's just like all these things all the time like on a regular basis I get things like that like it's crazy when you I call it following the white rabbit right going down the rabbit hole into wonderland because and and even when I decided to define it like that I live in Shell in Shell Cove in um New South Wales right near the beach in like a little suburb little corner um you know normal street I decided to start saying follow the white rabbit to understand energy and the morning the next morning I wake up early we're in the kitchen and here is a hare in the middle of the road like not even just a rabbit a hare it was massive just in the middle of the road in a suburb in at the beach like so these things happen to me all the time and it's because there's this connection right there's this awareness of more than myself I've cleared the energy of doubt fear worry concern all of the things that tether us to being weighted down um and being you know just a human and separate when you can clear those things out of the way then you're more aligned with that frequency of God that's just directing you and you just follow and magic happens all the time I think it's important to also understand that you know because I've certainly had people come on and they've told stories of ghosts or they've told stories of premonitions and some things come true later on or or events or the way they experience the world and then suddenly it happens but I think it's also important to understand that in our lives you have to be open right to the signs or the messages so you have to be willing to you know and maybe that's what that whole experience was when I was in Florida taking care of my friend Linda you know Jesus wasn't necessarily saying believe in me maybe Jesus was just saying believe in this you know and believe in like co-creating this reality together be open to the to the messages be open to the magic that's happening just be open in general I think we should all just be open in general it's the adventure I mean and and I know a lot of people's lives are very challenging and filled with a lot of struggle and pain and hurt but also you know inside all of that can be joy and and wonder and and awe as well. Often our suffering is to show us that there's something more right like and and I think you know I personally feel that if we can recognize ourselves as not separate to everything else just that little belief of ah I'm part of something opens you up to not just relying on yourself and this limitation that we see ourselves in but opens yourself up to the opportunity to be to receive love from the universe you know like we may feel lonely but as soon as you go okay I'm open to receiving something give me a sign give me give me something you know and doing it from a genuine place of innocence right and and surrender you know when you can surrender to being just yourself like and and surrender to the fact that we are more than this that's when you can start breaking out of that shell you know that's when you unplug from the matrix that's when you recognize that you are neo you know and you can and you know stop the bullets and start recognizing that you know there's there is help out there if you just are open to it. You know speaking to that you alluded or told a story about being in that car crash earlier in your life and then you talked about drug use you know which people would consider both of those experiences to be really challenging a lot of suffering scary kind of maybe being lost or having an experience of feeling that you're maybe forsaken or something like that and everybody's life has those moments those moments where that people feel lost or forsaken like they've been forgotten by god do you did it take a long time going through all of these different things because I certainly don't know them all at this point but to more consciously step into the realization that you know there's a path there are reasons for challenging things that happen in our lives did that take a long time or you know when you had the car crash did you think oh my gosh this was scary this how did this happen what happened but I know that I'm taken care of ultimately. The car crash was interesting because yeah I never it's really interesting for someone that you know I grew up in a family that you know I was born after a stillborn and I'm the reason I'm alive is because he wasn't and so back those days you know they were mum and dad were told you know have another baby that was the healing back then so I'm here because Bradley passed and I was also brought up to not believe in anything I you know what I saw what I experienced was wrong like no you didn't see that you didn't experience that this is what you experienced so you know very much love my mum but you know I think she didn't know what she was doing either and I had very ingrained energy of I'm not capable and I don't know and so I used to believe everyone else knew what was going on in the world except for me and that causes a lot of pain like to really not believe in yourself and to like real survival mode stuff you know like because how could I believe anything that I thought when I was indoctrinated with it's actually wrong so it was a long process to recognize myself and that what I felt thought believed was valid in some way it did it took a long time and one of the reasons why I was in a relationship for 10 years you know with an alcoholic and you know I was on drugs we were both on drugs you know numbing myself to the fact that I didn't believe in myself or you know being controlled and just living like that on a regular basis it wasn't until I had children that something clicked and I you know that mother instinct maybe of I need to look after someone and so I think because I'd grown up looking after my dad and the family that that gave me a role and so it was still an external marker was still you know something outside of myself that motivated me to start making different decisions and to stand up for myself and to do the scary thing of leaving because oh my gosh that was really hard right we I left several times and ended up back with him and you know we just couldn't you know I'm sure that we still love each other you know and so it is it's a process and and it's a process of understanding that you matter and it doesn't matter if what you think everybody else thinks is wrong if you think it then you think it and it's just acknowledging that it's okay for you to think that something's black when everybody else is saying it's white you know like and and that doesn't mean you've got to go and smash them over the head with it if you know that's not what you're feeling to do it's being okay with accepting that internally and then incrementally shifting and moving and taking action just from that thought and that belief however that looks to you and maybe it is just starting to recognize that you can say no sometimes you know it might be just that little movement so you have to know that I so appreciate and I'm always endlessly intrigued by alchemy so much not but it's not ever present in my life and I had this dream that I think you'll find interesting just because I literally don't live with alchemy and it's not something and I just recently had a huge shift in my life well the last couple of years but massive shift about a month ago and was thrown into a place that was really unfamiliar and scary for me still is a little bit and I was house sitting for a friend on the gulf coast in Louisiana but this this might speak to you I think it'll be interesting enough to share with you so I had a dream that I was at a Mexican restaurant with my mother and my siblings I ordered cabbage rolls despite the fact it was a Mexican restaurant and they ordered their food it seemed like they were visiting me I told them another part of the restaurant was haunted and they should check it out so they did as I was sitting there I overheard part of a conversation at another table the people seemed eccentric talking about alchemy but I mostly ignored them I mostly ignored them after my family left suddenly a man appeared at my table wearing an old-fashioned frock coat and he asked if I'd like to go through the alchemical process or something I felt nervous about it and I didn't understand why I said yes but I did say yes I wasn't scared of him but something about him unsettled me he said okay and he sat down he said first you need to drink this and he handed me something that looked like coffee he said this is just the beginning and it might make you sleepy so I drank it and after a few minutes I started to nod off while I felt like I was asleep I could also observe what was going on he did some other things that are escaping me as I forget the dream but it seemed like it was a four-part process the rest of the restaurant was emptying out before I knew it it was completely empty even his friends had left I couldn't figure out what was taking my family so long because they weren't coming back I looked around at what he was doing and I found him rubbing a ligament or something on my back to the left side of my spine he was rubbing it and it was so tight and I thought or I told him yes my body is so tense I turned around because I was sitting on his lap and it looked like he was crying I couldn't tell if he was crying because he understood the tension in my body and was sad about it or if he was crying because of something to come but suddenly I realized the process was done and I turned around and I thanked him and his dog appeared his dog was one of those dogs you see at a fire station with all the spots of dalmatian he was white but had this curious glowing green and purple hue so it was a dog that sort of glowed and then suddenly was gone the restaurant was starting to fill up again families were coming in I started trying to find my family in all the different rooms but I couldn't find them and no one knew where they were then I decided to walk back to my table and that's when I started waking up but then as I was waking up this word was said to me over and over again and I woke up with it still being said albedo albedo albedo and I had no I mean look I do not dream like this I don't even but I woke up thinking okay I think I was just told something and then I looked up what that word meant and it means it's like the purification or the cleansing process in alchemy that's awesome yeah so alchemy is making the volatile fixed in the fixed volatile and albedo is one of those processes right so that's a beautiful so when did you have that dream how far how long ago probably I would say let me see I would say about three three and a half weeks ago okay and have you noticed anything have you noticed any difference in your life well I mean I was having these I mean for multiple years it's been really scary um these a heart arrhythmia that um is actually really acute at times that has you know all the doctors are like we don't know I've had everything testing done and nobody can find any reason for why it's happening but it's caused me to not be able to work you know my body doesn't seem to absorb salts or electrolytes and so I have to you know drink certain things so that I don't know whatever's going off my body but that seems to have gotten better um over the past three three and a half weeks um I'm also you know feeling like I don't have to eat as much food as I normally do I want to eat cleaner it just feels like a few things are shifting in that way um yeah uh and dreams are powerful right like when we're on a spiritual journey uh dreams can be part of that transition and the magic and uh you know we can get healings in the middle of dreams um so the fact that it was on the left hand side and it was you know something that you needed to massage out means it was a feminine aspect of yourself and so uh you know there's a few things in there that I was like oh yeah so the cabbage rolls in the Mexican thing meaning that you know you were outside of the norm you know like you were in a space where you were eating something or nourishing yourself differently to what the theme was or the the way the life was um so all those little things are very interesting and I would say that that group of people were your guides like some teachers for you I've had um I've had similar dreams I've had Jesus come to me and um take take stuff out of my feet and all sorts of crazy stuff so when you're on a spiritual path that's you know I don't know how people live and exist and that's maybe why there's so much suffering on in the world because when you really open yourself up to this sort of stuff it's so much fun you know you can you can do so many things and and be aware of all of this joy and you know you're on a path and you're being enlightened so those things were obviously some sort of transition for you and some sort of healing you can actually ask before you go to bed okay I'm ready for the next level take me take me to the next level so you know making sure that you're off phones and and any devices an hour before bed and then now when you wake up and uh being in your own energy and just allowing that that to come through and just set the intention I'm I'm ready for the next level level what is it that I um need from you know to move to the next vibration or whatever it is and to see what happens you know you said it can be scary um something that just came up that I think is really important for your listeners to to hear when I was doing past self regression uh I it was really interesting process you know and and for the first couple of years I didn't actually believe in it you know very grounded I'm very my brain is scientific right so I didn't believe in any of this stuff but it's still like having things shift and move and change in my body but I got to the process uh where I recognized what was happening and how it was working and all these things and I have this you know it started shifting from past lives to having like experiences so I have this experience where um I go into the devil's lair right and so I'm in this this cave and I walk in and there's emancipated you know people like ball and chain and picks and like you know feel skinny and malnourished and um they're all there doing their thing and I walked in and I said to them you know it's a choice to be here you don't have to be here if you don't want to you can just make the choice not to be here well three quarters of them instantly left right because they recognized and was allowed to make a choice well next thing from the back of the cave this roar comes out and this huge like demon uh the devil you know like comes and he's screaming and swearing what the F are you doing in my house get the F out blah blah blah you know and I I'm in my light body so I'm not scared at all and I'm like well you know that this is a co-creation you know the laws of the universe as well as I do I wouldn't be here if you didn't want me here or you know you weren't part of this process so what am I doing here right so you can imagine he was furious right so he's roaring and screaming but as I said that he's he shrinks a bit so we're having this conversation and he's screaming trying to get me out he tried to eat me at one stage right and but every time I'm like well let's talk about this let's sort this out you know like let's work out why I'm here and he'd shrink and he'd shrink and he'd shrink and he got to this point where there was a throne behind him and next thing I know he's this little baby on the throne and I'm and I have this moment of just my heart oh he's just innocent like we are you know so I pick him up and before I even know what I'm doing I pick him up and my hands go and put him in my heart and he disappears into my heart and I realize that he was me so it's all us it's all us so all of our guides all of the things all the dreams everything that's happening when we can be in the image of God it's all us that's when you let go of fear I think you just dropped the mic and walked away that should be a beautiful moment it really was it was such a you know a realization of that that it is it's all us so when we're in fear it's that opportunity like what's inside of me that's concerned about this and often it's because we don't know right but we go into the fear of the unknown in in a I'm not capable or something you know something's going we've been indoctrinated into it that there's something wrong that we're broken in some way but when we can go into the unknown in innocence in our childlike innocence you know that is when we have the opportunity to clear anything that's getting in the way and to love deeply and to recognize ourselves as more than this I'd love to ask did you ever experience or have you ever experienced this kind of I don't know this um one of my guests called it an anointing on his heart you know a preacher came out to him and said you have an anointing on your heart which meant that he was going to be called to something greater later in his life did you ever have a feeling of a little bit of resentment or annoyance that there was kind of this calling that you had to step into I mean I believe in free will so you could have ignored the calling but it's like when it's kind of a compulsion at the same time like that calling is ever calling you and it's hard to resist stepping into your life path did you ever experience any resentment or just kind of I don't know a little grumbly about your what you were called to do I think I did in a way not so much of being called yeah in a way I've always felt I think that I've always known that you know I'm here to like a lot of people to make a difference in the world and you know raise the vibration of the planet and all of those things but I remember when I was first spiritually waking up and um I didn't realize that I had you know you don't know what you know sometimes and it sort of comes to you and so I didn't realize that I had this thing that um we're all one and we're here to experience and all of those things I didn't know that that was part of my knowing and I'm spiritually waking up and all these weird things are happening and blah blah blah and um long story short I won't even tell you the story of the cat but um I met this guy across the road this old bushman guy and I had to go to his house to get a signature that he witnessed that these dogs had attacked my cat and so um I go over and because I didn't know anyone right like I've just spiritually woken up and I've got no idea and I go over and he's got buddhist sayings all over his walls just little things that he's written and then posted you know didn't look like a buddhist at all you know like just an old bushman so we start talking and he's the one that he gave me my first book um it was it was actually the fourth book of conversations with god it was a relationship with god from don walsh and so I then and and I was like oh my gosh someone that thinks like I do so I went and I started reading the first book and basically in those books he says god says we're all here to experience um life you know like we're just here to be part of the everything and there's this part where neil says and you know once we connect back in what happens and he's like basically once it's all the oneness again it just happens again that whole breath thing you were just talking about breathing in breathing out and I had this moment of being so pissed off like what we're here to do it again like there's no real purpose to this we're doing all of this is pain and suffering and all the things that are going on just to experience and then go and do it all over again and I went into depression for quite a while of like this sucks like you know until I reckon you know and I I've I feel like I've always had this awareness of what it's like to be home you know like to be not in the body and in that moment like it was months of like just wanting to go back home you know like this I don't want to be here and that was a process in itself you know being okay with the fact that this is just one big process that we're all going through and there's no actual you know reason for it which is not true because they're you know like when you look at the bigger scheme of things and all the nuances of the whole thing it's it's a long process right it's not just the blink of an eye when you're in the oneness and so when you step out of that and you see your part in the bigger thing that's you know trillions of years old most probably and has no time and space right so you know the the dichotomy of the whole thing you can go back in and start being okay with just having the experience and being part of the growth and moving people you know reminding people that we are more than this and that we can wake up to being not broken and a creator and all of those things right so um yeah it was there was a moment where I was like this you know I don't want to do this anymore I didn't I didn't sign up for this but yes I did I hope you all enjoyed my funky interview with Elizabeth Make Peace this episode and I hope you enjoyed getting to know another incredible human being out there working their magic in this world and for those of you who appreciate the work that I'm putting out into the world please do consider leaving a rating or writing a little review thank you for listening and here's my one request be like Elizabeth know that we're all connected and that everything is one and that the idea of us all being separate is an illusion I think if you live with that idea that we're all connected and that everyone is you and you are everyone else and I think we'll be a little kinder to each other a little nicer to that stranger that we meet on the street so live with the idea that everything's connected and everything is groovy and I think pretty soon the world will become a more delicious and funky place