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Merging Quantum Reality With Life

by Katrina Bos

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Is life really filled with things, people, and events that can be counted, measured, and made efficiently? Is there a deeper reality beyond what we can see and feel with our senses? How does this perspective make our lives more interesting? Let's explore infinity and see where we end up! This was originally a live talk here on Insight Timer.

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Transcript

So,

Today we're talking about merging quantum reality with life.

So,

The question becomes why would we want to talk about this?

Besides the fact that I just love talking about how quantum physics interacts with our life and consciousness,

It is definitely something that intrigues me beyond the end.

But why do we want to talk about it today?

And I believe one of the big reasons is that it's like sometimes we feel like we're missing something.

You know,

We go through our life and we're doing what we're supposed to be doing or we think we're doing that and we think we're doing the right things,

But it's like we're missing something.

It's like we have all the points,

But they don't connect together or they don't fit together in a way that makes us feel,

Ah,

All right,

Now I'm satisfied or now I'm happy or now I'm joyful.

And it's like we have all the right pieces,

But something's missing.

And this is really interesting.

Like,

You know,

In some native cultures they talk about how the strangest thing about when the white man came to North America,

For example,

Is some of the elders would talk about how the white men really like to count things.

That only that that can be counted is real,

Which was very contrary to the beliefs of the indigenous.

It was just almost that that's such a limited perspective.

Right.

It's interesting.

I'm reading a lot of Changzi right now.

And when you think of these ancient Taoist masters,

These in almost every tradition,

They're very quiet.

They seem to observe life.

They seem to look at life just observing or if people are doing things or people have opinions or if people are all upset about something,

They just seem to be watching.

So it's almost like if you imagine that they actually understood the quantum reality.

Yes,

They saw the pieces.

They saw what was happening.

But they also saw everything in between.

They saw the fields of possibility.

They saw what was beyond what could be counted.

So if you ask them,

What do you think about this,

They just sort of look at you and they might respond in a very cryptic way or a poetic way,

Because they knew that even what we could say with our language was so limited based on the actual reality that was out there.

So you often you know,

You would see this master and they would always be so quiet watching because there's so much more going on.

So if you imagine if everything we're going through in our life right now,

And I mean the real stuff,

I mean relationship struggles,

I mean work struggles,

I mean meaning of life stuff,

Everything that we're actually going through and losing sleep over and struggling with.

You imagine you sort of see the pieces,

But then you kind of blur your vision and you allow yourself to see beyond just the pieces.

We allow ourselves to see everything in between,

Even if we can't name it.

Right,

Even if we don't understand the ripple effects,

Even if we don't understand the quantum effects on everything connected to that single experience.

Imagine just allowing ourselves to have this different perspective like that Taoist master to understand that we all have that master inside of us.

We just have to allow our vision to expand.

So that's the first piece or the first reason I want to talk about this today.

And the second one is,

In a lot of our spiritual studies,

We understand that the goal is to expand our own consciousness,

To raise our frequency,

To shift our own perspective of the world.

And in some belief we think,

Oh well,

That's going to make me happy.

That's going to give me insight into what's going on in my life.

It's going to help me make decisions.

And that's true.

Right,

That's sort of that microcosmic perspective.

But metaphysics would tell us that when we shift our consciousness,

We also affect the world.

We also affect the macrocosm.

And this is very confusing in the world of things that can only be counted and can only be described.

How does me shifting my own happiness or doing my own work,

Really getting inside and healing my emotional pain,

Or really bringing myself into wholeness,

Not judging my shadow,

Not judging the parts of me that I don't love.

How does that change the world?

Right,

Can I actually change the world around me without going out and doing things that can be counted?

Can it really happen in meditation?

Can me becoming a happier person actually change the greater world?

So that's the other big underlying idea that I want to explore with our talk today.

So the first thing I want to talk about,

And I've mentioned this in a lot of previous classes,

So some of you may have maybe hearing this for the 10th time.

But so over 100 years ago,

They did an experiment called the double slit experiment.

And I'm beginning our talk about this because this is one of the foundational concepts of quantum physics.

And understand that even as I say quantum physics,

It sounds you know like it's,

You know that saying,

You know,

It isn't rocket science,

You know,

Because rocket science is supposed to be really hard.

Sometimes we have the same perspective of quantum physics,

That,

Oh,

That's only for like real brainiacs or people who have studied physics.

And all in all honesty,

I am certainly a lay person.

But the reality is that quantum physics,

What it really means is that quanta is what happens inside an atom or what happens in the particles that are smaller than an atom,

The quanta.

Sir Isaac Newton,

He studied the things that could be counted.

Aha,

An apple weighs this much,

It falls to the earth at this speed of gravity,

I can calculate this.

So we often talk about Newtonian physics,

Or classical physics,

All that can be which can be counted.

Quantum physics found out that that's not always true.

There are things in the world that happen in every one of our lives.

This is not just happening out there in every one of our lives there are things that have happened that don't make sense.

They just,

We can't explain them.

You know,

In the beginning of,

In the beginning of my book Tontric Intimacy.

Is that in the beginning?

No.

I think it's in the beginning of the section,

All about integrating the spiritual into the physical,

Because that's the foundation of Tantra.

I tell a story about my dad,

Which again lots of you guys have heard before,

Where he was driving a tour bus in the Rockies,

When he was in his 20s.

And all was well,

He was taking a couple of tourists home,

Or back to the chalet.

And he's driving through the Rocky Mountains.

And of course the Rocky Mountains in Western Canada.

You know,

In places it's very precarious like you're driving along the edge of a cliff,

All the time.

If something goes wrong there's nowhere to go.

There's no shoulder,

There's nowhere to stop.

You either stay on the road,

Or you don't.

It's a little scary as someone who has white-knuckled driven through the Rockies a few times.

So anyway,

My dad,

He's about 24,

He's driving this huge tour bus through the Rockies,

He's heading down this hill around a curve and he realizes he has no brakes.

At the bottom of the hill there's a bridge,

And at this bridge only one vehicle can pass at a time.

And he's going down and he realizes there better not be anyone else on that bridge.

So he's just sort of praying,

You know that moment,

You know,

There's no atheists in a foxhole.

He's just praying for help,

Right?

So he's going down towards the bridge and hoping like anything there's no one else on the bridge.

And of course as his bus starts heading onto the bridge there's another bus coming at him halfway across the bridge.

My dad can't stop,

The other bus can't get out of the way,

And they just start coming towards each other.

And the last thing my dad saw literally was the whites of the other driver's eyes.

And then all of a sudden the buses were on the opposite sides leaving the bridge.

And my dad is 86 years old and if he tells this story he starts to cry because it breaks all the physics and understanding of the world he ever understood.

And this is quantum physics.

This is,

How is that possible?

According to the Newtonian classical physics we learn in school,

That's not possible.

And the wild thing about this,

Which is what really inspired this talk,

Is we have this idea,

This classical physics idea in every aspect of our life,

That only that which can be counted matters.

Only that which we understand is real.

And this is what broke my father.

Because this couldn't be real.

Because it doesn't follow what we've been taught.

So this is why even though I'm a lay person I don't study quarks and string theory and this isn't what I do.

Well I do as a lay person but not as a true physicist.

The reality is I listen to it and I can relate because there are things in life that don't make sense.

There are miracles and there are serendipities and there are things that as soon as I expand my mind beyond the classical model of that which can be counted as real,

My life changes.

And this is why the application of quantum physics is so important.

I was actually in a class in July,

A few classes,

And there were these quantum physicists speaking.

Jackie was there,

She can vouch for me how completely over-arm head it was.

But it was really interesting because one of the physicists who,

And he's been a quantum physicist for 50 years,

He worked with David Bohm for 30 years literally across the hallway and he's continued David Bohm's work for the last 20.

This man ran the big particle accelerators like he was a true quantum physicist.

And in a panel in the final class he was asked the question,

Why would we apply quantum physics to our lives?

Why is this valuable?

And it was really interesting.

What he answered I can't remember right now,

But that's actually what really started making me think how important this really is.

So the double slit experiment.

Let's imagine you take a wall and you put two slits in the wall and you stand back and you take a flashlight and you direct the flashlight at the wall.

Where is the light going to go?

So over 100 years ago they did this experiment because they wanted to,

They were just experimenting with the qualities of light.

How does light work?

Classic scientific inquiry.

So they shine the light at the wall.

Well the weird thing is the light,

Even though it was shown here,

Went through both slits and then each slit was like a ripple going out and then the ripples overlapped and went beyond.

It's kind of like if you were looking at a pool of water and you took two stones and you dropped the stones into the water,

Ripples would go out from the stones and at some point those ripples would sort of overlap.

That's what they were seeing going through these holes were these overlapping ripples from the light shining through them.

So the physicists at the time said,

Aha,

Light is a wave.

Interesting.

And that became the understanding that light was a wave.

So then about 100 years later,

Or whatever,

60 years later,

80 years later,

They had discovered that there were actually particles inside atoms.

There were photons,

There were things like this.

They thought,

Oh,

What if we could make this experiment better?

So they did the same thing.

They took a wall,

Two slits in it,

Obviously much smaller than I'm talking about,

And they had this cool little photon gun and they would shoot a single photon,

The smallest particle of light they could get,

And they would shoot it at the wall.

Same thing happened.

The singular photon shot at the wall,

Went out in exactly the same ripple out both slits.

And then sometimes it would only go through one slit,

Or sometimes it would only go through the other slit.

And the physicists were like,

Well,

That's weird.

How is that possible?

That's like throwing a ball,

A single ball against the wall,

And it just magically going through two holes,

But there's millions of them.

And you're like,

That doesn't make any sense.

So they thought,

Okay,

Well,

We'll measure this,

Obviously.

So they took a measuring device,

Put the measuring device by one of the slits and said,

Okay,

We'll get the data,

We'll sort this out,

We'll figure it out.

They love calculating probabilities,

Right?

So they shot the photons at the wall,

And as soon as it went through,

They would go through the slits as single particles.

So suddenly there's a measuring thing,

They throw the ball at the wall and a single ball goes through.

And that's it.

And they're like,

What?

So they took the measurer away,

Throw the ball at the wall,

Beautiful ripple effect.

Put the measuring guy back,

Single ball,

Single photon going through.

So this was very confusing to David Bohm,

Well,

It was confusing to all quantum physicists.

How can a particle change its behavior based on whether or not it's being observed?

Why is that possible?

How is that?

That doesn't make any sense.

The ball is a ball,

Right?

In classical physics,

This is a ball and it's a hole.

It shouldn't change based on whether or not someone's watching it.

So one of this is actually one of the reasons that David Bohm,

My current favorite quantum physicist,

Struck up a 30-year friendship with Krishnamurti.

Because Krishnamurti had written a book all about the power of the observer,

And how the observer in life,

In consciousness,

Was actually no different than that which they were observing.

And David Bohm realized how similar this was to this foundational problem in physics,

That the observer was changing what was being observed,

And that there was a perfect correlation in consciousness.

This realization in our life,

Think about the effect of the observed,

Think about what it's like when we become hyper focused on our life.

You know how when they always say,

If you want to lose weight,

The best thing you can do is stop looking at the scales?

Or if you want to be successful,

Stop thinking about success and just go have fun?

Or if you want to get pregnant,

Stop trying,

And then all of a sudden you get pregnant?

It's all these weird situations in life that when we focus,

It's like we limit the potential field of possibilities.

When we count,

Our reality suddenly becomes so simplified and so limited,

That we actually don't get the results that we want.

In science,

This was the beginning of double blind experiments,

Because they realized that when you were actually doing a scientific experiment,

The intention of the scientist was affecting the results.

There were huge,

Huge implications to this.

The second huge implication of this experiment was the idea of a quantum field that was affecting the atoms within it.

So what they did,

David Bohm for example,

He talked about how,

Well,

Okay,

We can see the photon going through,

But something is affecting it.

Something is causing that photon to make a different choice,

Almost like there's consciousness affecting it.

Right?

So there was this idea that every atom had a quantum field affecting it.

And within that quantum field,

David Bohm introduced the idea of hidden variables,

That there were variables,

There were things in that quantum field that were affecting us that we weren't aware of.

What does this sound like?

When we think of our life,

And we think of all the things happening,

And we think of the world around us,

And these other aspects affecting us,

Whatever you call it,

Whether you call it intention,

Whether you call it God,

Whether you call it angels or spirit or whatever,

Whatever you call it,

With all these hidden aspects,

Magic,

I don't even want to put words to this,

Because it's a very idea of the hidden variables in our life that are affecting every single aspect of our life.

We don't even have to know what they are.

I don't even want to name them.

Every single person here will have a different interpretation of what we're talking about here.

One of the most interesting aspects of this for me recently,

It was in this recent series of classes that I attended in July.

Again,

Most of it was over my head,

So it was almost like I had to listen and kind of just let my consciousness hear what was being shared.

What's interesting about listening to people who are masters,

Even if you don't understand what they're saying,

If you release your mind,

You receive the transmission.

As long as you know you don't have to understand it,

If they're passionate about it,

Which these people were,

They were so passionate about what they were sharing,

If I could just release the fact that I actually didn't understand a lot of the jargon that they were using,

I could still receive what they were saying.

So I would sit and I would listen,

And almost like a meditation,

And I would listen and at some point I had this vision.

Imagine that each one of us,

Every single one of us here has our own quantum field.

This is quite accepted in the quantum physics world.

There's a lot of controversy in quantum physics.

There always was between Niels Bohr and Einstein,

Even Einstein and David Bohm.

Nobody quite could get it right because they're trying to figure it out.

Like the beautiful thing about science is science is not meant to be stagnant,

It's not meant to be,

And here's what we figured out and here's the answer.

The whole meaning of the word science is it's the constant search for understanding of the world around us.

And as we understand one thing,

We get to expand into something more and more and more.

This is the intention.

So I had this vision of every single one of us here has our own quantum field with all of its hidden variables,

With all of its reality,

All of its potential.

And then I saw me,

Because you know it's all about me,

For me.

So I was this like meatball or a planet in this field of quantum potential.

So I almost saw this like flat plane and then I saw this sort of meatball self in the center.

So here's me and here's my quantum field.

And you know how when like in the Course in Miracles and things like that,

We talk about how we create our reality.

And I've always found this very difficult to understand until I had this meatball idea that it wasn't really a meatball.

That's just what it looks like in my brain.

Because I would look at the world around me and I would think to myself,

There's no way I created this.

Like I didn't create that over there and that over there and I didn't create that person's reality and this circumstance over here.

I didn't create that.

And I would spend a lot of time in introspection and really kind of chewing hard on my soul,

Trying to figure out what it was about me that created this world situation.

So now instead,

If we go back to this quantum theory,

So here's me in my own quantum field.

And then here's you in your quantum field.

And then here's that guy over there in his quantum field.

And then there's that person over there in their quantum field.

And all of our quantum fields and ourselves are happening in this time and space.

We're all overlaid.

But we each have our own quantum field.

We each have our own reality.

So it isn't that I created the reality that I'm living within.

I'm creating my own experience of the world around me.

But I didn't create the world around me.

I may be witnessing another person's quantum experience or a collective or something,

But it isn't necessarily about me.

So if you actually imagine this,

So this was another big discussion,

Because in the idea in our brain that we've been raised in,

All of us,

If we were raised in a classical school,

We were raised with this classical idea of physics,

Which extends into how we see the world,

How we see God,

How we see relationships,

How we see everything,

That which can be counted.

That's all that matters.

It's kind of like in relationships.

Well,

This is what you said.

This is what I said.

And now we're going to weigh this.

We're going to compare.

It's like there's more than what was said.

So much more.

Right.

When we actually look at the the potentials and the quantum reality and the emotions and the thought and the spiritual journeys and all these things,

There's so much more.

But we interpret the world in this classical that which can be counted way.

So in classic physics,

One of the ideas is that we want to eliminate the context of the experiment.

And what that means is we want to simplify the experiment so that we always get the same result.

I have a thing.

I do an action on that thing and I want this result.

So therefore,

I'm going to almost imagine that the experiment is happening in a vacuum.

And this is considered to be a pure science.

Right.

A pure way to do this experiment.

Quantum physics says.

But you aren't in a vacuum.

Life doesn't happen in a vacuum.

It'd be like studying an airplane,

How it flies without considering the upcurrents or the winds that the plane is flying in.

Life happens in context.

So,

You know,

Sometimes we look back in life and we think,

Oh,

Man,

I wish I could have done this differently.

I wish I would have done that.

I wish.

How could I have made that choice?

This is where it's so important to consider context.

Right.

People often would say to me,

Well,

Do you have regrets from your marriage or from when you were raising kids or when you were on the farm?

And it's like,

Well,

If I look at my life in that countable way that I did this,

I did this,

I did this,

I did this,

And I can analyze it and optimize it.

That's not accurate.

I have to look at my at the circumstances of my life at that time.

Because everything happens in the context of the world around us.

It isn't a case of,

Oh,

What I would do differently then if I knew what I knew now because I didn't know what I knew now.

And I was 23 years old or I was depressed or my mom was dying or I was in pain or I hadn't slept in.

Like we all have context for everything we've ever done.

And this is really interesting and this is another aspect of quantum physics which I think is really interesting is wholeness.

David Bohm spoke a lot about wholeness,

That the idea,

If you're new to David Bohm,

I highly recommend the movie they made about him.

It's a documentary called Infinite Potential,

The life and times of David Bohm.

I think you might have to pay 10 bucks or 12 bucks or something but it's so worthwhile.

This is what inspired me and got me on this journey of taking courses with these quantum physicists and things like that.

It's just so,

So,

So interesting.

Very,

Very digestible too.

You don't have to be a scientist by any means.

Just a person interested in consciousness.

But he was very interested in wholeness.

And the idea that as soon as we fragment the world,

As soon as we say,

Oh well there's this and then there's this and this and this,

We're wrong.

You know that saying that we all say that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

This is really,

Really important.

That it's not just a,

Oh and we all work together it's better.

It's true.

But the reality is we do not know what the whole is if we're looking at its parts.

We have to see it all connected.

We not only have to see it all connected,

We also have to see what connects the pieces.

We have to look at the pool the pieces are swimming in.

We have to look at the consciousness.

We have to look at everything.

The pieces are not even remotely close to reality.

The pieces are just tiny little aspects of it.

So if I was to look back at my 25 year old self and say,

I can't believe I did that or I can't believe you said that or I can't believe this happened.

The most incredible thing is to consider it all as a wholeness.

When I look back at my marriage,

I was married for 20 years to a very,

Very lovely man.

And are there were there times that were really sad?

Yes.

Were there times that were really hard between us,

Within me,

Within our life,

Within the farm,

Within my families,

Within?

Yes.

Were there times that were great?

Yes.

But all these pieces fit together.

He fit with me.

Our dysfunctions fit.

Our joys fit.

Our humor fit.

Our struggles fit.

Everything fit.

Not only us as particles,

But the families we came from,

The desires,

Our souls paths,

Our spirits,

Our emotional maturity,

Intelligence.

Everything fit together in a whole.

To look back at those 20 years and pick it apart and say,

Well,

I can't believe you said this and then you did this and I shouldn't have done that and I shouldn't.

It's wrong.

This is fragmentation.

And as soon as we fragment,

We are not looking at the whole picture.

Right.

It's look going back to those beautiful masters,

The ancient Taoist teachers,

Whoever or whoever you respect.

They weren't looking at the individual pieces,

No matter what you did,

If you looked at and said,

Well,

Look at that person did.

That's wrong.

Right.

Is it?

In the whole?

If we keep expanding our consciousness to allow for more and more and a bigger and more wholesome true expression of the world.

Suddenly that little action becomes part of a greater piece.

You know,

A greater functionality or a greater balance.

And it's hard because we don't always understand it.

Right.

We we don't honor those things we can't describe.

This is where,

Again,

It's so interesting to look at where our brain has been programmed by this classical physics model that we all learned in school that says only that which can be counted counts.

Only that which we can see matters.

And it's not true because we're missing almost the whole picture.

It's funny,

There was another story in what I was reading yesterday about this master and the master had no feet.

And he was very deformed in some way.

I can't remember.

I read a lot yesterday.

And what was interesting is he all these disciples that would follow him around all the time.

And what was really crazy about this guy is he never spoke.

He didn't teach.

He didn't actually.

But people still followed him around.

And so of course someone was asking the king,

Why do people follow this man,

It makes no sense.

More people follow him than follow you.

And the man never speaks and he's a cripple and this doesn't make any sense.

And what he said,

He said,

What you don't understand is this man sees no differences in the world.

There is no us and them,

Or left and right or up and down.

Everything is the same to him.

Everything is in perfect balance.

He only sees the whole.

And the guy said,

Well,

How can that be?

I mean,

You can see the differences between this and this.

And he said,

Anything that he requires his eyes or his ears to see,

He doesn't consider complete.

What he trusts is what he feels within,

What he knows within.

Because when you close your eyes and you sense the essence of everything around you,

You realize that it is all the same.

If you go into the woods and you look with your eyes and you see the tree and you see the stone,

They look different.

And we assume,

Aha,

I am correct to fragment this.

Right?

But if you close your eyes and you feel the essence of the tree and you feel the essence of the stone and you feel the essence of the water,

It is the same.

If we look at all of the people here right now,

What does that say?

285 people.

If we look at all these people right now,

If we look through our eyes or we look through this classical training we've had,

We will see all the differences between all of us.

But if we close our eyes and we tune into the essence of every person here,

We are all the same.

Which is reality?

What we sense or what we see or what we interpret?

It is a very,

Very interesting question.

And when we consider this idea of a quantum field that we all come out of.

So the other beautiful thing about David Bohm is he had this one idea about this quantum field and he liked to create,

I don't know if he liked to,

But he created different words.

And I think the good thing about this is it allowed us to not bring our old ideas in.

Sometimes better just to create a new world right away.

So the quantum field that he,

And he's not talking about multiple quantum fields like I was,

That's something different.

So he's talking about a singular quantum field and he called it the implicate order.

And again,

It doesn't matter what that means,

But he called it the implicate order.

Actually,

I don't know what it means.

That's just what he called it.

And this was the quantum field that every single one of us is made from.

That essence that when we tune in,

We are that implicate order unfolded into physical reality.

And this physical reality that we all unfolded into,

He called the explicate order.

And that life,

Quantum reality was this constant enfolding,

Kind of like you would take an egg and enfold it into a batter and it would get stirred in and it would be completely absorbed.

And then it would be unfolded into something new and then enfolded and unfolded.

So this is this wholeness that we are all a part of.

We are all made of this implicate order.

We are all made of atoms.

We are all made of the same stuff.

We are made of the same thing as the trees and the stones and each other.

When you imagine this kind of wholeness,

Again,

It's very hard for our brain to try to conceptualize because we don't have words,

Which is why I think the application of quantum physics in our life is so helpful because it expands what's possible.

It expands us beyond that classical model of thinking.

It expands us beyond even if we don't understand it,

Even if we can't put words to it,

We can kind of just relax our eyes,

Look around us like those Taoist masters and allow ourselves to see more than we can see with our eyes.

Even imagine this as a meditation.

Imagine we sit in a meditation and we breathe.

And even as thoughts may come into our minds,

We recognize that there's more than thoughts in our minds.

There's consciousness.

There's ancestry.

There's divinity.

There's new thought.

There's so much more and we don't have to name it.

I'm just naming it for fun.

But there's so much more.

And sometimes all we have to know is there's so much more.

The last thing I want to mention is this idea of choice.

We've often talked about the importance of choice in life.

We've talked about Viktor Frankl,

Man's Search for Meaning.

And one of his great realizations was that what gives us meaning in life is our ability to choose how we respond to any situation.

So now you imagine if we come back to this idea that this soul,

You as a soul,

We each have our own quantum potential field.

And that although we are all living in this one field,

This one space,

I have my own reality.

How you see the world is different than I.

What you're experiencing is different than me because we have different quantum potentials.

We have different quantum realities.

So in many ways,

All of our overlapping quantum realities create the context of our life,

Which makes life very interesting.

Right?

If we were all alone on an island with only our own self and our own quantum field,

Would we really even know who we were?

Like in the words of Abraham,

We would have no contrast.

We would have no idea,

No definition of self,

No sense of who we really are.

We would have nothing to push back against.

We would have nothing to flow with.

So instead,

The universe has set up that all of our multiple quantum fields,

Our relations,

Our partners,

Our children,

Our parents,

Our neighbors,

The government,

The world,

The weather,

Economies,

All these things are all overlaid in the same space as us.

And inside of that,

We are our own little meatball,

You know,

Looking around and we have our own quantum potential field.

And as we respond to the world around us,

It's our consciousness that is shifted and changed.

We choose how we grow.

We choose how we define our world in that context.

It isn't about changing other people's quantum realities.

We're just simply in the same room as them.

Our reality is how we respond.

This is what we have the power to do.

And no one can change that.

We can choose to be happy.

We could be poor,

Rich,

Being tortured in a loving relationship,

In a rotten relationship,

In financial distress.

We could be in any situation and we can look at that situation and say,

Huh,

I wonder what I meant to learn here.

We can rail at the world and be furious.

We can feel like a victim.

We can feel like the perpetrator.

We choose that.

And this is the whole piece.

And then when we actually look at that and then we say,

Aha,

When we make a change,

My entire quantum reality changes.

So now imagine,

Can we change the whole world?

Maybe not.

But we also are one of those overlays.

Somehow our reality is going to affect the realities around us.

But we'll never know.

But we do know that the realities of those around us are affecting us.

Right.

So it really only makes sense that however we live has to affect the whole also.

You know,

I'm not sure that should be the goal,

But sometimes it just makes us feel better that when we do the inner work and we spend the time meditating and we spend the time to expand our mind and raise our consciousness and be happier and more joyful,

That we really do have an effect on others,

Not by trying to affect them,

But just actually existing that way.

You know,

We really do affect everyone else.

Okay.

How is my consciousness different than yours?

My meatball makes different choices.

So my consciousness must be separate and all one.

You know how we talk about the difference between unity,

Consciousness and duality?

In spiritual studies,

We always talk about unity,

How we are all one,

That God is omnipotent,

Omniscient,

Omnipresent,

Right?

Everywhere.

This is the unity of consciousness.

This is where we truly are.

There is no time and space.

You know.

But we also exist in duality.

We also are separate.

It's an and statement.

We are all one and we are all separate.

It depends on the lens we're looking through.

Right?

If we look at all of us right now,

We are all one.

But if we look at us through that duality lens,

We also get to be separate.

We get to make different choices.

We get to have different realities.

But that's the point.

It's like that living in the paradox.

To live in the paradox knowing that you are fully infinite.

And I have brown hair.

I don't have blonde hair.

I have brown hair.

And I am infinite.

That's not possible.

You cannot.

Your brain will break if it tries to sort that out.

And yet,

If you release your mind,

Say in meditation,

You release your mind.

You can feel that it's true.

We can feel that all of us are here together.

And we are all very,

Very different,

Living very,

Very different and unique and interesting lives.

It's interesting when you think of that,

How great it is that we're living such different lives,

How interesting that makes it for each other.

Right?

I don't.

It's like someone said to me once,

Like,

You know,

When you date or if you know if you have a partner,

You know,

How do you find someone spiritual like you?

And I'm like,

I don't want to find someone like me.

I already am me.

It's much more interesting to be with someone who's extremely different because that is very juicy and fun.

How does this relate to Hawkins power versus force?

That's a great question.

So for any of you guys that are not aware of this book,

Most of you guys,

I know I've seen it 100 times.

Because we like talking about it a lot.

So in the book Power versus Force,

David Hawkins created a chart called Levels of Consciousness.

And this is what it is.

So in the book,

In the lower area,

There's shame,

Guilt,

Apathy,

Grief,

Fear,

Desire,

Anger,

Pride.

These are all emotional states that if we live in those states,

We just cause problems.

We just create difficulties in our life.

Not that I'm not sounds like I'm just going around creating difficulty.

It just means that if we are acting out of pride,

If we are acting out of anger,

If we're acting out of fear,

It's going to cause more problems than it's solving.

It's sort of a negative,

A vicious cycle.

And then as soon as we come to courage,

As soon as we choose courage,

That's like the line where everything starts to change.

As soon as we start to use courage.

Now let's imagine,

And I'm just making this up.

This is just what comes into my mind right now.

But imagine this idea of fragmentation versus wholeness.

Everything below courage is in fragmentation.

The only way we can be afraid is because something else is going to harm us.

The only reason that we would act in pride is because we need someone else to think something of us.

The only way we would have shame is because someone else might think something about us.

That's not considering the whole.

That's not considering circumstances.

That's not considering anything.

Right?

It's just pieces of the whole.

And it's almost like when we're below that line,

We see the world in very small pieces and it's terrifying and lonely.

Right?

We don't feel a part of the whole.

So then imagine above courage,

We have neutrality.

So neutrality,

If you feel the whole,

You can't take sides.

You see all of it.

You might see all hundred sides of it.

And you just observe the whole now and you effortlessly can be neutral.

You can still make choices,

But not because you're for or against.

And then in that wholeness,

There's willingness to take that step.

There's acceptance of the whole reason.

We can actually see the whole thing.

Love.

How could you not love when you know we are all things and we are all connected?

Joy,

Peace,

Enlightenment.

Right?

They all come from that whole perspective.

That's my sense of that.

Thanks for asking that.

Finding it hard to be happy in a non-communitive relationship.

Totally.

Well,

In some ways,

Non-communitive relationship is an oxymoron.

Right?

Like a relationship is supposed to be communitive.

It is supposed to be a back and forth.

That's the definition of relationship.

So if we're in a relationship that's cold,

It's not a relationship.

If we're in a,

Let's not even call it a relationship,

If we're with someone who doesn't communicate or doesn't play or doesn't dance or doesn't connect,

It's not a relationship.

That's one of our dangers in language that we use a word like relationship for something that isn't relating.

It's like a trick.

It creates cognitive dissonance inside of us,

Making us believe that we have something that we don't and then we struggle.

And it's like,

Well,

Yeah,

Because you're not,

It's not really a relationship.

Right?

Well,

Thank you guys so much.

This was great.

We will see you guys later.

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Katrina BosToronto, ON, Canada

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