Rebirthing Breathwork To Raise Your Vibration

This was a really fun interview I did with Taryn Claire Le Nu from Spark It Up Podcast. In this interview we talk about the power of Rebirthing Breathwork as a tool for healing, moving energy and empowerment. You will also receive an experience of Rebirthing Breathwork as a short experience. Rebirthing Breathwork is a technique discovered by Leonard Orr. It is a gentle yet powerful form of breathwork, as it is the breath of the heart through the third eye.

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The following is an interview that I did with Taryn Clare Lanou of Spark It Up podcast. She asks me about my journey having lost my hearing and yet finding healing through breathwork and sound healing. This is where this story begins right here. I hope you enjoy. Interesting was that I could feel the bowls in particular better than I could hear them. So I got really intrigued and was like, What is this? A week later, I got some hearing aids. So it was all sort of in amongst that time and started hearing again. I was listening to some music and Backstreet Boys was one of them and I ended up singing Backstreet Boys at the top of my lungs at this yoga studio. I thought I was by myself. And the sound healer happened to be there running a private session. It's like, Oh, You've got a voice. You should learn to sing. So he gave me a couple of sessions and I started on me with crystal bowls and then I started working with him one on one. And I thought I was going in for a two hour sound healing and it turned out to be a breathwork session. So I got introduced to breathwork without even knowing what breathwork was. And the most amazing thing and this is why I tell the back of that story was that I used to get panic attacks and really bad anxiety. And I never had an anxiety attack again after I had I started breathing. So it was almost like something pivotal changed. The second thing that I found really interesting was that I at the end of the breathwork session, And I suppose we'll go into a little bit about what breathwork is at the end of the session, I could hear clearly for about five minutes even without hearing aids. And I knew at that point that my hearing deficiency was something that I hadn't created with my own belief systems in my own head. And so that began the unraveling of the belief systems that had held me back. And then one thing led to another I started sound healing, Started reburthing people and I ended up moving to Bali and working for the Pyramids of Chi which has been such a privilege and I feel very humbled to share this work because I know how much it's changed my life. Yeah. That's an incredible story. And the fact that you're teaching now, You know, That's kind of part of your sole purpose because originally you were a teacher as well. I was a high school teacher before I became a yoga teacher. The skills don't transfer by the way, Which is bizarre. It was the hardest thing to learn to teach yoga. That's really interesting. The skills might not transfer but certainly that sole purpose to come into this world and to teach others and I'm getting goosey while I'm saying that. You can never run away from your sole purpose, Can you? Nope. The universe keeps prodding you and pushing you in the right direction to make sure that you're right on that path. And if you stay, It's okay to a point. Don't you agree? That's right. So you know, We're getting kind of to that, You know, That understanding of, You know, What is, You know, Breath work or rebirthing breath work. I mean, That all sounds a little bit weird to people who've never heard that before and maybe a little bit scary, You know. Can you lead us through what that actually means? Yeah, Of course. When I first started breathing, I didn't tell anyone that I was doing breath work for a good year because I thought it was different and it's very, It's newer, Let's just say that. But what it is is a conscious connected breathing. It's almost like the opposite of pranayama. So for those of us who know what pranayama is, Pranayama is breath control. So it's using the diaphragm and the intercostal muscles of the ribs to control the breath in and that breath out. And so we're learning to expand our lungs by using control. Breath work is the opposite. Instead of controlling the breath, We're actually allowing the diaphragm to relax. So it's a little bit like this. If I breathe in and then I just let my muscles that control the breathing mechanism go, The breath naturally just wants to be released. It's like the pressure of the body versus the pressure of the outside world. So pressure wants to sort of equalize. So because of that, The breath work is designed to be conscious connected breathing. So we're connecting the breath in to the breath out and the breath out to the breath in. And so it's really powerful on a physical level because it starts to expand and stretch the muscles around the lungs, Which keep us feeling tight and constricted. It's almost like we have this cage around our heart that stops us from really experiencing feeling being in life. And once we start to breathe in these ways, Pranayama does a similar thing. It's just a very different representation in the body. When we start breathing freely, It becomes open and then there's a whole heap of energetic shifts that take place as well. So when we breathe in this way for a long period of time, The body starts to tingle, Energy starts to move in the body. You know exactly what that's like. What's that been like for you actually? I'd love to ask you that question. I'm captivated with breath work and partly because I know what comes after doing a session. It's like you tap into all the magic. It's like someone has loosened that lid. You know when you've got a jar and you can't open the lid and you say to someone else, Oh, Can you open it? And they just kind of crack it for you. They give it back to you and then it just opens. You're like, Oh my goodness. That is what breath work is like. When you do it on your own, You can be lazy and you don't show up. That was the glorious thing about booking in and knowing that I was going to show up. It was in my diary. School holidays unfortunately really kind of grow spanners and works. But there was also that little reward that you knew that I knew that after I'd done that session, Magic unfolded for me for days and days afterwards. Things I could manifest so easily and effortlessly. It was like when you're inviting the breath in, You're inviting source energy in and you become one with being able to do anything. That is the exciting magic in all of this is that we really do think, Oh, Breathing. Don't we just breathe automatically? But I do believe that with the type of society we're living in, We're actually not breathing. That comes to, Who is breath work really for, Corina? Everyone. There's a few modifications that we need to make for people who are on medication for bipolar schizophrenia. Sometimes even there's just a very, There's care that we need to take when it comes to epilepsy as well. But other than that, If you've got lungs, Then you can breathe. I believe that we all have the capacity to be our best self. Just like you said about the cracking off of the jar, Sometimes we just need guidance on how to crack the top off our own jar. I suppose it's also really hard to describe the benefits of breath work, Especially because I've been doing it for a couple of years now. It's hard to describe the benefits of breath work when it's so diverse and it's different for everyone. But I can very much relate to you and the experience of having manifestations land like this and confidence to make decisions that will change the course of my life. Stepping away from things that are not in alignment to step into things that are. When you're working with clients, I guess why are they coming to you to do breath work? What is their motivation or their intention to set aside time to do it? There's many different ones, I would say. I work both online and also face to face. There's really no difference between the two, Which I find really interesting. Before COVID, I wasn't doing any breath work online. I've had one guy come to improve his surfing and he kept coming back because he found other benefits. I had another woman who has come to let go of some pretty deep trauma that's happened for her and we're releasing it slowly over the course of sessions together. It's just been so powerful to watch her literally unfold. I think I described the group as the ever unfolding rose or the ever unfolding flower and the group of the awakened heart that is. I just feel that this is what happens when we start to move the energy within. We experience life. We have a reaction to that experience of life. If we don't give ourselves permission to feel that reaction or response or emotion, Especially like sadness or anger. As children, We never knew how to process those emotions. If we were told to be quiet or to shut up or don't feel that or whatever, Then we got really used to tucking it away and putting it down somewhere deep inside us. The body holds so much information and when we breathe in this way, It starts to move things in conscious and also in the subconscious. I think that's the most powerful thing is that there's a lot that's actually moving in the subconscious when we breathe. There was one thing that I noticed, I think it was after my fourth session. This is a bit of a personal story. I was talking with a girlfriend of mine and she was sharing, Don't you ever get embarrassed when you go on a first date or something like that. I thought to myself, And I think I've been on a few dates, And I thought to myself, No, I don't feel like that anymore, But I used to. So I wasn't until I was put in situations where I really noticed how much change took place and that was only after four sessions. It was pretty massive. It's amazing how quickly things can start to shift and change. Sometimes we don't really notice it until someone brings our and draws our attention to it. Now I just wanted to read this. It's so beautiful. It's actually one of your quotes and it says, When you remember that at your very core, You are love, Then the healing can take place from the inside out. Like a light that bursts the layers of the self open wide that cracks and breaks the cages we have built around ourselves for protection. The breath brings you back to love. Then you remember and embody that there is actually nothing to protect and nothing to heal because you are love. I just, I read that, I get goosey. It's the very core of my message, That we are to shift everything over back to love. It's just a beautiful, Beautiful quote. I wanted to share it with everyone. Thank you for sharing that. It is absolutely true. The amount of times that I see it in people and there's this smile on their face. And then in the middle of a session and they're breathing and they're just like breathing with this great big smile on their face. There is a remembering of the truth. When the mind is really still, We have access to the deep knowing within us that we are actually greater than body and happenings around us that we are so much more than that. We are actually a source, Energy, Love. Just as the quote says, When you remember that, A lot falls away. You don't need to be healed all the time. Sorry, Go. Oh no, I was just going back to, That changes people's lives. It was really interesting doing the sessions with you and it wasn't a group session. We all needed to get comfortable. We're actually all zooming in from our bedrooms. Serena would then sort of put the camera on you while you were doing your breathing. It was really interesting even though you're there consciously with the intention to breathe, How many times during that session you would say, Keep breathing and how we go back to holding our breath. What's that about? I'm starting to notice that there's two aspects to that. I'm going to start with the first aspect, Which is like in our normal everyday life, It's a stress response to hold our breath. When we are in very mild states of stress to exceeding states of stress, It's really common for people to not breathe. If you're in a constant state of stress for a lot of your life, Which most of us were in, And probably even still now, It's a little bit like if you don't stretch your muscles, They're going to get tight and same with the breathing mechanisms, So the intercostal muscles between the ribs and the diaphragm. When that becomes tight, Then we don't have the capacity to breathe deeply, Which is, As you said before, Our birthright and our prana and our energy and our life force. It's the connection to spirit. Now I've just spaced. Where was I going with that? We're just talking about the synchronicity of people holding their breath, Even though that you've booked in for a class to do breath work and you're there during the breathing session, You find yourself holding breath. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I'm like, Hang on a second. I'm going somewhere with that. The other reason why we stop breathing in a breath work practice is sometimes we go so deep, The mind is so still that we go into this deep space of theta brain wave, Which is just before you fall asleep, That sort of nothingness space. It's in there where all the magic happens. It's in there where we start to access the intelligence of our soul and our spirit. I as a facilitator need to be really mindful and aware of when it's mind stuff and also when it's experiencing the self and experiencing that sense of spaciousness. It's almost like two polarities, Right? Breath response versus complete spaciousness and we stop breathing at both points. The amount of things that can happen. Absolutely. And so, Karina, When we're doing breath work, Is it a mouth thing? Is it a nose thing? Is there a difference? It doesn't matter? Yes, It does. Well, I don't know if it matters, But there is a difference. What I'm trained in is something called rebirth in breath work, Which is a style or a technique that was created by one of the founding leaders of breath work, Which is his name is Leonard Orr. He passed away last year. It is through the nose, So it's in and out through the nose and nose breathing sparks or amplifies, If you will, The parasympathetic nervous system, Which is rest and restore and repair. It's the restful part of us that starts to come alive and come awake. When you mouth breathe, Not only that, Actually, I'm just going to say this as well. When you nose breathe, You're targeting your third eye. So, There's an opening of the sinuses that also targets into the third eye. And when you breathe in this way, There's often a release of DMT, Which is the active ingredient in the ayahuasca and the plant medicines. I'm not going to go into that too much. But when you breathe through your mouth, It activates the sympathetic nervous system, The stress response, The fight, Flight, Freeze. And so, It's purposeful, But it does a different thing. So, That will be much more cathartic, Often there's screaming or shouting. Depends on the facilitator as to how gentle they create the space. But it's from my experience of the various mouth breathing techniques, Which is biodynamic and breath of bliss. And these are the main schools. I can't remember them all off the top of my head. But what they do is activate the sympathetic response to bring emotions and events to the surface to then be healed. So, It does exactly the same thing. It's just that is more yang and rebirthing is a little bit more yin. So, It's like the mouth breathing is like ashtanga and rebirthing is like yin yoga, If you could explain it like that. So, For people who aren't familiar with the yin and the yang, Can you just explain that a little bit more? Yep. I'm afraid if there are any mouth breathers out there, I mouth breathe as well occasionally in my own practice. But it's a little bit more aggressive. Let's say that. I don't want to say that because it's not, It is still a really amazing form of healing. It's just not as gentle and as graceful and as profound and sometimes with rebirthing because it stimulates the parasympathetic. We're actually accessing those deep states of love and peace and connectedness to ourself through breathing through the nose. Sometimes the nose blocks up during this session because there's tears and we have to mouth breathe and thank God for that. It's just as valuable. Yeah. Karina, I'm really curious. You know, The Vim Hof breathing technique is starting to take off worldwide. And I guess it's getting a lot of people who are mainstream into the idea of activating breath. Where does this sit along that line of things? Because it's interesting to see how that movement is really growing and is it benefiting your way of doing it, Bringing breath work as a mainstream activity? Great question. He has done fantastic with getting it into the mainstream. And it was probably about the same time as the rise of the Vim Hof that I started telling people about reburthing because it's something that's not commonly spoke about. It's old. It's, You know, It's very ancient. This is a medicine that we've been using for centuries and centuries. What Vim Hof has done is he's one of, Again, He's another founder of breath work and he has used quite an aggressive breath to bring the body into homeostasis and parasympathetic nervous system. So he's also using parasympathetic. His sessions are much shorter and he is, I suppose the difference is that it's just much more aggressive in the approach and it's very different in terms of the session. I've actually not received a session of Vim Hof from anybody so I can't really speak on too much on that because I haven't really experienced that. I've done some of his stuff on his app, Which is awesome and the way I kind of see it is I have a limited capacity for how much I can work with people and he is doing it in a way that's accessible to the whole world. So I say go for it. If that's the first port of call for somebody to start breath work, Then yeah, This is amazing. I know that my beloved is a man of science and he thought that was a bit weird. I actually booked him into a Vim Hof session down in Sydney and sent my boys as well and they weren't that impressed. They thought that was weird. And so, But came back really open and really intrigued and kind of really understanding the benefits of actually dedicating some time to actually just lying down and doing the breathing. So they've been using the app and I find it really interesting that I am considered to be a little bit off on one side of the spectrum doing my type of breath work, But it all leads to the same thing about changing the alkaline acidity balance within the body and promoting physical health, But also more oxygen into the brain. It's always a good idea. Completely. And the more oxygen in the body, The better off the body is. And the more science is meeting spirituality, The more we're coming into connection between this brain body experience. And I just yesterday actually had a sensation in my body. I was having my space held by somebody and I had this sensation in my body and a memory literally come out of the sensation in my body and show me this like, Almost like a movie screen. And I opened my eyes and said to the woman that our memory is stored in our body. And she said, Yes, Yes, It is. And that's absolutely true. So the science is coming together with the physical body is meeting. The more we get to know the physical body, The more we get to know ourselves, I think it comes down to that. And I'm enjoying having, You know, Watching the evolution of what was considered perhaps a little bit woo woo. You know, Scientists have been studying what he's doing and it's kind of merging the two things together and blending it. So it's sort of becoming a little bit more, You know, The woo woo is becoming a little bit more mainstream. Like you said, You know, Easier to tell people about what you're doing and not sounding like, Well, Yes, Well, We're breathing every day, But we're not doing it with intention, With purpose, With a consciousness to achieve an outcome. Now, Karina, I know that I kind of sussed you out to see if you would take the group through something, You know, Whether it's a meditation or some breath work or some sound healing. Are you up for that tonight? I am very much so. So how much time do I have? Just let me say. Well, What I'm going to it's seven thirty now and we do always allow some question time at the end. So there are some I'll just check the chat box because there's some people who've actually popped something in the chat box that's active at the moment. The sound is good. Someone needs to switch the camera. The link's been giving someone issues. OK, So I think. OK, Super. I think that we're good to go. A maximum of, Say, 15 minutes and then that will allow us to do Q&A at the end. And then we've got a lucky draw and we don't just have one prize. We've got five prizes. So I love it when my guests are generous. It's a feel good feeling for us all. So I'm going to turn my sound down and let you go for it. OK, So what I'm going to get you all to do, You can either lie down or you can stay seated. Just make sure you can hear me and find a comfortable space to be in, Whether or not that's seated or whether that's lying down seated. Sometimes it's really nice to ground your feet down into the earth. So this evening we're going to do a meditation into a breathwork practice. This will be really, Really gentle. You may feel tingling in your hands or your feet or perhaps in your lips. You may feel tingling all over your body. Just know that this is really normal. And if you decide that the breathwork isn't for you, Then you don't have to do it. You are welcome just to breathe in for the count of four and breathe out for the count of four, Which is a pranayamic practice. So as I demonstrated earlier, The breath and you may need to open your eyes to just see what I do. You breathe in, Maybe 60, 70, 80% and then you just allow the diaphragm to relax. And we'll get to this in a minute. I'm going to guide us into a meditation first. Breathe in and you relax. Breathing in and relax. Breathing in and relax and so on. And the pace will end up being a little bit quicker. So I'll demonstrate that really quickly. We're connecting the breath. So there's no pause at the top of the breath, No pause at the bottom of the breath. We're just breathing, Almost like we're breathing in a circle or a cycle. There's no stopping at the breath. And what we'll do is we'll do, Actually that will come as I do the meditation. So as you were ready, I invite you to close your eyes if you haven't done so already. And just drop your attention and your awareness down and in. And down and in again. As though you're taking the seat in the very center of your body, Surrounded by the cells of your being. If this is a little hard, Just taking a few steps beneath the boundary of your skin. You may notice different sensations on the inside of your body that perhaps you have been avoiding. Perhaps there are feelings present. We're not doing anything with those feelings, We're just allowing them to be there. And here's the most important piece, Acknowledging their presence. I feel you. I see you. I invite you to soften around those parts that feel dense and heavy. Keep acknowledging their presence. I see you. I feel you. And perhaps there is a response that takes place in your body. Perhaps you can notice the cells around the space full of sensations soften and widen. Perhaps you can notice the sensations as they begin to dissolve. And perhaps you can notice as well that there are spaces within you that are vast and wide and peaceful and spacious. Just bring your attention, Your awareness into those parts of you. You might like to bring your hand over the parts of you where you feel wide and open. Just acknowledging those spacious parts of you. I see you. I feel you. I hear you. Almost like we are astronauts taking off into outer space, But instead, Some are not taking off into the interior of the body and exploring the vast collection of cells that are made of stardust. The wonder of our inner being. And perhaps it is in this moment that you can remember. You can remember beyond stress, Tension, Fear. You can remember beyond anger, Doubt. You can remember beyond any sensation or experience that is happening within your life. And you can let that go. To that we'll breathe in. Take a long, Slow, Deep breath in. Hold and pause and gather, Collect anything that you're holding onto. And then open your mouth and let it go. Sigh it out. We're going to breathe twice more like that, Breathing in. Open mouth and sigh it out. One more, Breathing in. And sighing out. Perhaps you can see beyond what you were holding onto. And that you can remember the parts of you remember that you are love. That your natural state of being is peacefulness. That you are worthy and that you are enough just as you are. There is a knowing there that you are. That this is true. Cultivating that experience of love through the breath. Going to do two rounds of 20 breaths or thereabouts. You might like to bring your hands to your heart just to feel the rise and fall of your chest as you breathe. You're going to breathe in and out through your nose so there's no opening of your lips. Breathing in. And then drop the breath. Breathing in. Drop the breath. Breathing in. Drop your breath. Breathing in. Drop your breath. Breathing in. Drop your breath. Breathing in. Drop. Breathing in. Drop your breath. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. In. Breathing in. Five more. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. This time you'll take a full breath in. You'll hold and pause at the top of the breath. You'll hold for three, For two, For one. Open your mouth this time. Let the breath go. Sigh it out. Holding the breath at the bottom. Holding for three, Two, One. And back to a natural flow of breath. In the second round, I'm going to invite you to explore taking a little bit of a deeper breath. And if you're feeling that there are tingling sensations that are quite strong or heightened sensations in your body, You might like to slow your breath down and not follow the click and the click as the breath out. So you can go at your own pace just to feel and experience the breath and at its best for you when you're ready. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in. Breathing in u then same. Then breathing. Breathe, Breathe. Last few, Breathe. Breathe in. Last one, Breathing in. Hold your breath at the top. Open your mouth and let it go, Sigh it out. Hold your breath at the bottom. And back to a natural flow of breath. And you may notice a really beautiful, Very subtle shift in your energetic field, Like a pulsing or a vibrating of the spaces between your cells. Perhaps you can notice the fizzing of your energetic body like champagne bubbles. Perhaps there is heightened sensation in parts of you that have come alive, And that's okay. I acknowledge you, I see you, I feel you, As though you're speaking to a child, Acknowledging the parts of you to come together, To be fully whole. Your body is not to be feared, But to be loved deeply, Unconditionally, Just as it is. I invite you to breathe into where you feel the sensation, Just a few sighs, Take a deep breath in. Sigh it out. One more deep breath. I invite you now to invite in a few words of affirmation, Some words of love into this spaciousness that you've cultivated within yourself. I am worthy. I am enough. I am loved. I am lovable. I belong. I am connected. I am never alone. We are one. One last deep breath. If you're lying down, I invite you to bring your hands to your heart if they're not already there. If you're sitting up, I invite you to bring your hands to prayer. Thanking yourself for this practice and gratitude for this moment to all the teachers who came before us and to the greatest teacher of them all, That which is the self. Namaste. I'm getting back to my video, It's starting. There it goes. Carina, So much bliss. One of the most beautiful things at the end, When we bring our hands together, We are essentially connecting the two hemispheres of the brain and we're integrating all that beautiful work into the body. Thank you so much. I feel incredibly blissed out and blessed for that. A little bit buzzy and trying to get back into the body. Me too. Thank you. Actually, This is probably a good thing to do, Just shake. Yes. Come back to the body, Shake your hands, Shake your head, Shrug your shoulders a few times. Shimme. There we go, Actually, That feels better. Me too. Because when I do it's like, Woo. Yes, And it is. Sometimes you don't want to leave that beautiful space. You want to linger in it longer because once you're there, It's kind of that soaring feel. So I'm going to find my spectacles. Ladies, Please feel free to hop into the chat box and put your questions in there for Carina. I know that we're not on Facebook as well. I'm not on Facebook to answer those questions there, But Carina might hop in if you're commenting. Carina might hop in and answer those later. But we're going to hop on here onto this chat box and see what's coming up. Ooh, Chelsea's in the bath. She's watching. I love it. Stephanie says, It's amazing to get a taste of what is involved and what it feels like. And people take breath for granted and we don't really truly access the full potential of it. So it's been wonderful to be able to give that as an opportunity to people to have a taste of what it's really like. Yeah. Sarah says, Beautiful. Thank you. Linda's saying thank you. Vicky's saying sensational. Thank you. Namaste. Vanna's saying, Wow, Thank you so much. Linda's saying, I found the breathing quick and speeding up. What is the purpose of this shallow style of breathing? I love this question. I love, Love, Love this question. Thank you for asking it. So at the beginning of a breath practice, It feels like it's shallow breathing. But what we're actually doing is slowly starting to wake up the breath mechanism and what you'll find is you'll be able to breathe deeper and more full. So I was breathing nearly to 100%. And so it feels like shallow breathing to begin, But it's not actually, It's just because we're connecting the breaths that it feels like it's shallow breathing. And if we were in a one-on-one, Even if you were online, I would probably modify that a little bit so that it felt a little bit more spacious. But that's generally the pace that we breathe. It's almost like a metronome, If you will. Yeah. So I hope that answers your question, Linda. Yeah. I hope that answers. Sarah has asked, How long would you normally do that for? So a full session is between 60 minutes to 75 minutes to an hour and a half. And the full session, Usually, A full session, I would run in two hours, But sometimes that goes over. And my teachers breathe people for three, Four hours. It really depends on the individual. Sometimes 40 minutes is enough. Sometimes an hour and a half is where a person needs to go. And that kind of lies in with the next question where Linda said, You know, It didn't feel long enough for her. And yes. So I mean, Generally, What happens is that when you do the sessions with Carina, You build it up to a point where you can then, I guess, Breathe yourself. Yes. Do you want to explain that? Yeah, I do. So what I often invite my clients to do is when they're. . . And I'd love to. . . You've got great questions, Linda, About the hyperventilating. I want to get to that in a second too, Because it's really important. What I usually get clients. . . Hang on. What was the question? Oh gosh, Carina. The question was, How often do you recommend to do. . . Oh, How often do you recommend to do breath work? I probably didn't read it correctly. You gave me a different question. Never mind. Okay, We're going to move forward. Sorry. How often do you recommend breath work? I would say. . . I would say three times a week is deeply transformational. I recommend once a week, No more than once a month. And that's if a person is going through a full journey, Which is 10 sessions. So it really depends on how intense they're willing to go through a transformation. I have one client who did 10 breaths in a month, And that was her intention, Was to completely unfurl and unravel. And that was really amazing for her. Generally to people, I would say once a week to once a month. And that's usually if people sign up to a 10 pack, Then we'll start week by week and then it may be a week in between or we space it out a little bit if that's needed. I'd love to answer the question about hyperventilating. Is that okay? Please, Go ahead. Good question. So hyperventilating is not what we're doing because. . . Okay, What's the difference? So the difference between rebirthing and hyperventilating is a sense of gentleness. And it's just got to do with the pace. So maybe the pace was a little bit quick that made you feel like you're hyperventilating. But the idea is not to get the body into a stress response, Which is what hyperventilating is. We don't want the body to go into a stress response. So every body is different and we'd sort of create a metronome based on what your body says yes to. And yes, Your body absolutely gets used to it. There's nothing. . . It's your breath. And the tingling that you'll feel is an increase of oxygen that's coming into your body, Which is amazing. That's what we need. I'd love to remember what your original question was. Anyway, Never mind. In terms of Lindas, What is the purpose of shallow style breathing? I haven't done one before, Yeah. It's not shallow. What we invite you to do is start to explore the space of the lungs. And when I first started rebirthing, It was originally in the upper chest. But what I'm learning is that it's upper chest, Back of the heart, Lower belly, Side ribs is so much that we can breathe into that we just don't utilize. And eventually we want to breathe into the fullest of our capacity and draw in as much oxygen as we can. It's great for our heart rate. It's great for our lungs. It's great for exercise, My goodness. I don't think I've gone for a run in years. I ran the other day and I felt really great when I shouldn't have probably felt so great. I think people don't realize that breath work is actually three dimensional breathing. When you're in automatic breath, Often when we're in a stress response, We're using what I call clavicle breath. And we're right just here at the top and we're not really dropping the diaphragm down and allowing the full belly in. But when that three dimensional breath work comes in, It's really expanding it into the back of your ribs as well. And we're just so unaware and unused to the idea that it's the back of our ribs and the side of our ribs and the front of our ribs and the bottom, Everything's moving. And so yeah, It does. It transforms the way you start thinking about your breath, Even when you're not doing a breath work session. Exactly. I love Adele. Did anybody else get that? Really good question. Did anybody else get pain? I'd love for you to comment. Often it's a sensation that could be in your body already and the breath is waking it up. It's probably energy that's ready to move. On a quantum level, It's probably something that's old and stuck that could be ready to move. I'd love to know whether or not you have had lower back problems in the past or if this is something that's quite new. Stephanie had a heaviness in the pit of her stomach. That's quite normal because the diaphragm is resting just above the stomach. And when the diaphragm relaxes, It's not used to doing that. So there's often belly sensation is quite common. What did you experience, Tara? I love getting to that space in between. And I think, Remind me tomorrow, That computer suddenly wanted to restart of all times now. I really love with the breath work getting into that in between space. And you gave a really brilliant analogy when we were doing the breath work. Hold the wings and a bird on a branch. Yeah. Do you want to share it with the lady? Yeah. So the bird is the heart. If we think of the bird of the heart is the heart and the lungs of the wings of the bird. So we're wanting to expand the wings of the bird so that heart can be free and fly. And a bird cannot hold on to the branch and fly at the same time. So we must let go. Sometimes letting go on a physical level is pain or sensation or emotion. And sometimes if any of you guys got a little emotional through that, That's really normal as well. And that's all part of the process of just letting go. Yeah. My favorite part with the breath when I visualize is on that in breath, My wings going up and on that out breath, Just pushing off of my branch and letting go of whatever it is. And it just feels so liberating because we often are told just let go, Let it go, Let it go. But this is an opportunity to actually physically release it from your body and getting back to Adele. In terms of the work that I've done with people, I've found that things are stored on an energetic level in the energetic body. And when you've got pain in an area, Sometimes with all that breath work, It's stirring up the energy in that area. And it's kind of like when it's like stuck bubble gum, You're just kind of scraping it off so that it can be released out through the breath. So it'd be very interesting. I would love some feedback in the next couple of days, How you're feeling in your back because you've said that you do have back pain usually, Is that what it says I have? That would be an interesting conversation to have and to follow up with you. What difference does it make with the out breath via nose or mouth, Adele? Yeah, Cool. So the mouth breath or the mouth breathing is just stronger. And you can just try it if actually no, Don't. I was going to say give it a go, Like just like we did before. Mouth breathing, Because we're not breathing through the sinuses, It's not going to activate the third eye, But also the sinuses have a way of slowing the breath down. Whereas mouth breathing, It's. . . And it will feel a little bit more like hyperventilation. And it's stimulating the sympathetic nervous response rather than. . . And that that's the fight or flight freeze nervous response rather than parasympathetic, Which is what we do through the nose. And also I feel like on an emotional level, When we hold tension in our sinuses, It's something that we have to breathe through. It's an agitation that we have to overcome when we breathe through the nose. And there's often quite a lot stored here because it's part of the face. It's a big part of who we are. Yeah. Karina, I'm going to call it Adele in terms of all the questions. I'm sorry we've run really, You know, We're extending into the time here. So what I might do is my VA is here, Christine. So she's going to be taking everyone who is online now, Putting their names in a hat to do a draw. But in the meantime, Karina, Can you let us know what we're drawing five prizes, What our prizes are for today? Yeah. So I have a Instagram course. I put a. . . How do I explain this? I put a whole heap of IGTVs together and created a short course. And it's a two week breath work journey. So it's something that you can do every single morning, Just like we just did. And what you do is you'll breathe for. . . There's a meditation and then there's a breath work practice. And those two together will start to awake and spark awake your heart. It's super cool. It's an introduction to breath work. So all the how tos of how to breathe is there, How to modify your breath work. I'm a part of that Instagram account. So I interact with you guys as you're going through the course. It's a two week journey, But I give you access for four weeks. And what I've found, I've just finished one group and they have really started to take breath work into their every single day practice, Which I strongly recommend. Even if we want to go so much deeper, There's benefits to breathing just for 10 minutes in the morning. So what I'm offering is five people to join the spark. What you need to have is an Instagram account. And they're super easy to create, Even if that's the only reason you're jumping on Instagram. That's the only condition. That's the only place I have it online at the moment. I'm going to Christine take you off mute to ask you.