The Law Of Unification With Divneet Kaur Lall

This week on Dear Lovely Universe and to launch the show off with a bang, our featured guest speaker is Divneet Kaur Lall. She is an author, speaker, and consciousness expert. She is the discoverer of the Law of Unification which empowers people to create new creations for the world and conscious life of purpose. She is an integrative thinker who forgathered diverse components of research using her visionary perspective to devise the formula of creation to unlock our highest potential.

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Welcome to season 3 of the Dear Lovely Universe podcast.

This season will be dedicated to helping teenage girls and young women connect to their own self-love so that they can live their most empowered lives.

In this season,

You can expect solo episodes as well as guest interviews.

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Thank you so much for tuning in today.

This week on Dear Lovely Universe and to launch the show off with a bang,

Our featured guest speaker is Divni Kaur Law.

She is an author,

Speaker,

And consciousness expert.

She is the discoverer of the law of unification which empowers people to create new creations for the world and a conscious life of purpose.

She is an integrative thinker who foregathered diverse components of research using her visionary perspective to devise the formula of creation to unlock our highest potential.

The law of unification is seen as a doorway to our greatest potential and expression of a meaningful life.

Divni inspires individuals to think in creative,

Innovative,

And radical ways to develop new solutions.

She is dedicated to supporting individuals in accelerating their journey to fulfillment.

Hi Divni,

Thank you so much for being here with me today.

Hi Kelly,

Thank you so much for having me.

I'm so excited to be here with you to talk about life purpose because as I told you,

Life purpose is by far my favorite thing to talk about.

I just feel like it goes,

It gets straight to the cause and not the effect.

And so let's get right to it.

So,

What inspired you to become an author,

Speaker,

And consciousness expert?

Yeah,

So my inspiration,

It truly comes from my experiences.

So,

You know,

I was living a very normal life earlier,

Like people do their jobs and they earn and they.

.

.

But there was this thing,

Like I had been into meditation practices and I had been studying spiritual texts as a child,

I was doing that,

And as a kid.

So they kind of,

You know,

Become a part of my life.

And I was balancing that normal life with my meditation practices when I got this experience which actually changed everything.

And I had this experience when my meditation practices kind of stopped working.

It was like the person who was doing those practices just vanished and it was like very peaceful,

It was very silent,

It was very empty in the beginning,

And then slowly it started appearing like bright and the light started appearing.

And also these ideas started coming up which kind of I had to work upon,

I had to,

It was like they were forceful and they were like,

Wanted to be brought into the world in some form.

And that's how these ideas were given form using this book,

Mastering creation using the law of unification.

Yeah,

Yeah,

That is beautiful.

It always seems like it,

When we have an idea,

It starts to become almost like an itch,

Like something we have to do and we can't ignore it anymore.

Right,

Right.

And these things happen like,

You know,

These ideas come from,

Even when people meditate these ideas come like they have to do this and they have to do that and this is kind of,

This is kind of our,

Is our purpose in our lives and,

And a lot of times we just do not know what our purpose is and we just follow what other people are doing,

We do what other people are,

Like they are working so we do similar kind of work but there is always an individual dharma for each one of us and this individual dharma is our true purpose here in this world.

And this is the,

You know this when,

Even if we are following this individual dharma,

It is kind of in a total as a whole,

It affects the whole world,

It actually helps in evolving the whole planet,

The whole world and the dharma,

The total dharma,

The absolute dharma of the whole.

Absolutely.

Yes,

I'm so happy you brought that up.

I just,

I too believe that every single person has their own individual paths that relates to uplifting the consciousness for the whole world.

It's so important to realize that we do have a part.

That's true,

That's true and we have to like we have to walk this path anyway.

You know a lot of times also there are these lower forces,

The forces of these lower levels of consciousness which actually draws our attention or draws our consciousness towards them and just chops us from connecting with our real purpose or with our individual dharma.

And this is,

We need to like overcome them,

We need to overcome those forces and rise above them and connect with these higher levels so that we can connect with our true purpose with our individual dharma.

Yeah,

Definitely,

Definitely.

I know I have,

You know,

My ways of doing it but how do you recommend someone could get in touch with their inner selves or get access to higher realms of wisdom?

So,

You know,

Realm,

I call it the idea mind.

And this idea mind is what we need to connect with but just connecting with idea mind is not enough.

We also need our mind in the process like if we are connecting with the idea mind,

We also need our mind to bring those ideas and to give form to those ideas in this world.

So the first step here is to overcome the forces of lower levels of consciousness and we can do that by exercising our willpower.

So this is the basic step like,

And we can use very simple techniques to rise above those forces by exercising willpower.

So,

Let us say we commit to someone for something,

We just need to do that.

This is how we exercise willpower.

For example,

We commit to ourselves,

Like,

I'm going to do this in the morning tomorrow so I must do that,

I should not delay or I should not,

You know,

Try to not do it.

This is how we can exercise.

There are so many other basic steps we can use to exercise the willpower.

And what happens here is we become more aware.

So once the willpower,

Once the willpower becomes strong enough,

We can easily overcome the lower impulses,

And we become aware of those impulses after a while.

So,

They do not distract us,

They do not have power over us.

And then we can rise above these forces.

Yes,

Yes,

That sounds so powerful.

And once we realize that we can accomplish those little things that we start to do then we start to set out to achieve bigger things.

Right,

Right.

These are the basic steps like to start on this path,

Like just when we are on the path and we are starting with we do not know what to do.

And this is how we can start,

Because,

You know,

When we are on this path,

We really need to be very discerning,

Because there are so many influences which come from the environment.

It comes from social media or television.

There's so many things,

There's so much information out there.

And if we do not know,

We are not conscious enough to actually know which information is helping us to connect with our purpose and which is actually putting us on the wrong path,

Taking us on the path which is not helping in our evolution.

And therefore,

We need to,

We need to first of all practice this so that we can discern,

We can discern what is right for us,

Or maybe we can discern the forces of those lower levels of consciousness and the higher levels of consciousness.

Yes,

Exactly.

How do you feel like is a good way of discerning what is good for us spiritually and raising our consciousness,

And what's not good for us?

You know,

If I talk about like my personal journey,

I would say,

I was just doing this meditation,

And there is this thing that the consciousness actually wants every person to evolve,

Right,

Because this is kind of,

It's the,

Like we have our goals,

Consciousness has its own goals,

Like it wants to evolve,

It wants to evolve through human beings and because it cannot evolve through animals,

It cannot evolve through other things.

Our human body,

Our human mind is such a tool that the consciousness requires it to evolve.

And how does it do it?

It just forces,

It just puts us into situations or maybe provides us ideas through various means so that we can evolve,

And we can use those higher levels of consciousness to create,

To create new creations in the world,

Which are actually as evolved as those higher levels of consciousness.

So,

So we all have access to this,

It's not that we cannot access this,

Or we do not.

It's very easy,

Especially in our time it's easy.

We do not have to put in a lot of effort.

We just need to,

Just need to be careful,

Just need to be conscious enough,

Just need to be aware enough to be clear that this is not my purpose,

Or this is not what is my highest duty.

And we will know it.

You know,

Even I was earlier,

Even I was trying to,

You can say,

Because I had to do this,

Somehow I knew I was,

I had been as a child I was,

You know,

Reading those spiritual texts,

Spiritual books,

But I never followed it.

I was not teaching it.

I was not writing a book about it.

What I was doing was I was just doing a novel job and kind of balancing it with my meditation practices.

But this happened because it had to happen and consciousness wanted it to happen.

So yeah,

Even,

And what helped me was that I was aware,

And when this started happening,

I started spending a lot of time in solitude.

And I did a lot of self inquiry,

Which actually helps us.

So solitude and self inquiry are very important if we can ask the right questions and we can ask ourselves that if these things,

If these desires which are,

Which we are trying to manifest if they are coming from lower levels of consciousness,

Or if they are coming from higher levels of consciousness,

We would get the answers we would know,

Even if we cannot,

You know,

Hear the answers,

We would know,

It's like,

It's those subtle things we will know that yeah,

This is not what we are here for.

And that helped me that I did that and then it became clear to me that what I was doing was not my true purpose and those ideas were also hitting me,

Because I had this attachment,

This,

You know,

Identification with my work as well.

So I could not leave it at that moment.

But when that that identity dissolved that person kind of vanished,

I had to do it because then that person was not there,

The person was doing it so.

And yeah,

Yeah,

So now the force was like,

Whatever this consciousness of force that came in and that kind of started doing this started writing the book or,

You know,

Kind of forced the body and the mind to work on this.

And yeah,

This solitude and self-inquiry is something which can help us discern like,

What is our path and what is not our path because we are surrounded by information,

Data and we need time to reflect,

To think about this like what is right and what is wrong.

Absolutely.

Being in isolation is so important,

I feel,

For our personal development and growth.

And you made such good points about how when we know that something isn't right for us,

We will feel it,

We know deep down.

Right,

Right.

There is this deeper knowing and there is this subtle voice,

But the voice actually gets,

You know,

It just shuts down a lot of times because of the outer noise or because the noise our mind makes.

It happened with me,

No doubt.

I was not,

I was not listening to it at that moment.

I also really liked your point about how we have an identity sometimes with our job or the things that we do,

But how that's not really us.

Like,

You know,

So that was a really good point as well.

Thank you for bringing that up.

Right,

Identification is,

If I'm just,

You know,

Elaborating it.

So identification happens with things we,

You know,

Get attached to because of various factors.

Attachment is also,

You know,

One of the factors of the low levels of consciousness.

We get attached to things out of habits,

Out of security,

Out of various other reasons.

And these are all forces of low levels of consciousness again.

Exactly.

You know,

I want to know your opinion on this.

So I oftentimes,

A lot of people I see will do are like,

For example,

I was walking through Costco yesterday.

I know a super random,

But I was walking through Costco yesterday and I just by chance heard these two men walking past me and one man was telling the other man about how I heard very briefly.

He didn't like his job or his situation he was in.

He was like trying to reason with himself and the guy at the same time.

Like I just keep telling myself only six more months.

And I just feel like this is such a good thing to bring up and I want to know your opinion because it's like sometimes we will reason with ourselves and use like intellectual thinking like it's only six more months or it's only this much amount of time or I'll just push through it.

You know,

We mentally try to keep going with something that we know that we're not meant to do or that doesn't feel good to us.

Like what would you want to tell someone in that position?

Right,

Right.

And we all do that.

I have done it as well.

And while I was writing this book Mastering creation using the law of unification,

And I was researching and ideas were definitely coming in.

So,

But you know,

The formula here when I talk about to create a new life of purpose or to create new creations the formula here is to connect with the idea mind and to bring those ideas into the world using the mind.

But what we are doing here is like the person who was the person was telling that six more months when the person is doing here.

The person is taking the idea from the mind and trying to,

You know,

Put it or give it form in the world that is that is what we,

You know,

A fall.

We need to bring the idea from the idea mind like what the idea mind want us to do,

And then use the mind to give it form in the world.

Then you're doing it from mind to mind from reason to reason,

We're just working on that lower plane the lower levels of consciousness.

We are not following our true purpose.

True purpose can be anything so we need both the things we need the mind,

But we need also need the idea and we need to connect with the idea mind,

And the idea.

So,

What people can do is they can connect with this idea mind,

Using the practices and true that with the idea mind says if the idea mind says no this is not your true purpose you don't need six more months in this job,

Then we have to trust that,

Because for our evolution will have to you know,

You'll have to trust the consciousness that actually is everywhere that actually what we are we do not know we are consciousness until we have those experiences.

Even I did not know,

Even.

I was not aware,

Like,

I'm not this body I'm not this mind or I'm not this thoughts.

I was attached to everything.

But yeah,

When you get that,

That,

That,

You know,

When that.

When that vanishes that person vanishes immediately the first thing that drops away is this identification these beliefs,

Which we have about ourselves.

And this is how we know and consciousness would never would never you know want waters,

Which we just fear everything,

We do not know that if we are going to leave that job would be be able to survive.

Where are we going to get money from.

We have heard so many stories and you know of the people who got awakened and they even did not have anything to keep their job or because your life changes a lot of times after awakening.

And so,

A total life just moves about and you do not know what is happening you just come out to be a different person because the person is not there obviously you just come out to be something else and yeah because we all wear those masks,

We all try to kind of force this this believe these thoughts which we have from which we have gathered through ages and we try to force it upon our lives.

We try to put those masks upon us and we try to live like that.

And we need to remove that we need to open up,

Open up to what is what is there in the world and it's beautiful it's just,

If we can see that it's just beautiful,

Just being in the moment is beautiful and the worries drop away if we just open up.

It's all these are the worries and the fear that I do not know if I leave my job what is going to happen,

What is going to happen what can happen.

Everyone you know even though there's the saying in these Indian texts here that even though even the small insects or even the small.

Small creatures,

Which come on in this world,

Even,

Even those those creatures,

They have their nutrition or their food.

They have they get their things,

They do not even have the mind how to do that but they get that because the creator,

The universe has plans for it,

And we just do not trust it.

And we know that if we are not going to do it.

Nothing can do it,

But no the universe does it.

Yes,

We have to make efforts,

But we need to make efforts in the right direction we cannot make efforts in in the direction which we do not truly feel fulfilled in like we do not feel fulfilled,

But our mind says you will need this,

You cannot survive without it and then we follow it.

No,

You don't need this,

You don't need this.

You need to feel fulfilled because that is what we are here for,

For fulfillment and evolution.

Oh,

That is amazing.

Yes,

For fulfillment and evolution.

I love that.

You made a really good point about how we can have a lot of fear when we're leaving things that don't feel like they're fulfilling to us,

And then you know that fear can paralyze us in ways.

But there's something I wanted to bring up and get your opinion on.

I feel like when we do step into our purpose and go towards what it is that we were,

You know,

Born in essence to do.

And that is unique to our karma that a God force or the universe will help us along our journey.

And so,

With God as our supply.

It's with that,

That trust.

I feel like it's a lot and truly believing it that God is helping us with our journey,

Because God,

I feel like when we do step into our purpose,

God wants to help us get there,

And God wants to help us,

You know,

Move forward with reaching our fullest potential.

So I just wanted to know what are your thoughts on that.

I tried to and yes this is so true this is absolutely like the highest truth we can say,

And not only just when we are following our purpose,

I think I just feel that universe is always there to help us in no way the universe wants that,

You know,

That the humans should suffer,

That the humans should,

You know,

Feel unfulfilled.

It's always there.

It always,

And even when that suffering comes in,

Even when we suffer,

That is just because the universe wants us to look around and step onto our path,

What is the path we have to take,

Because that is what brings in ultimate fulfillment.

And yeah,

When we are on our purpose,

Definitely.

Now because what happens here is,

We just,

The realization comes in.

So earlier,

The universe is always there,

The universe is always helping.

Suppose I'm not following my purpose,

The universe was still there,

What was it doing was,

It was pushing me towards my purpose.

And now once I'm following my purpose,

It's still there,

And now it doesn't need to push me so it's going to help me out to,

You know,

Accomplish that purpose,

To fulfill that purpose.

So the universe is always there for us,

Always helping us out.

We can use any word for it,

Consciousness,

God,

Creator,

Yeah,

So whatever we need to like feel comfortable referring it to us.

But yeah,

It's always there,

No doubt.

Oh,

I love that.

I love that.

I feel the same way.

God is always there with us.

And so thank you so much for sharing that.

So can you tell us in more depth,

Because I really would love to know what is the law of unification?

Yes.

Now,

Law of unification is something that is gonna help everyone to connect with their purpose,

And to fulfill their purpose to reach those,

You know,

Fulfilling heights and to also not just,

Not just fulfilling their purpose but also helping the planet to evolve,

To creating those new creations which are evolved,

Which are as evolved as the higher consciousness.

So it is used.

Now this is,

When I was going through this,

When I was not aware about my purpose and when I was having this,

You know,

There was a spirit of time I was,

I had these experiences,

It took,

It took some time.

So this is for those,

Because if I had known this law of unification,

I just feel that it would be easier for me to connect,

And to know what it all is.

And nowadays we also have this,

This another law of attraction which people talk about but I usually compare this with law of unification because the law of unification is not law of attraction.

Because law of unification helps us connect with our higher desires.

Now law of unification will not help you if you have a desire in your mind,

And you want to manifest it.

No,

It cannot do that.

It will only help you connect with your highest duty on this planet,

In this world,

So that you can evolve,

Your lives can evolve,

And the planet can evolve through that.

And law of unification is when this unification happens,

When the idea mind unifies with the mind,

Or the powers of the idea mind when we use the powers of the idea mind,

And then we connect the powers of the mind like we use both the powers in collaboration,

And we bring those creations into into the world.

We follow our purpose,

And then create our purposeful life in this world in this planet.

This is how law of unification helps us.

And the law of unification is actually it came from various motives of the creator gods.

So there are so many creator gods,

Which are represented by similar kind of motives like there is this bird and then there is the snake,

Which is always seen.

And then it is also found in how the genius,

How the minds of the genius works,

Like how they connect to those ideas and bring those new inventions into the world to,

You know,

Take the world a step ahead.

And it was also found in various texts,

In ancient texts,

And in various other places like the law of unification was there,

But we were not able to decode it.

So this is,

This is how I have formulated this formula,

Using these motives,

Using these,

The works of the geniuses and very set of texts which signify about this,

Like there is one another tree of life and Bhagavad Gita.

And I also indicate the formula,

Same formula.

So,

The same formula found in different ways in different texts and different mythologies.

And that is how the law of unification came into existence.

It is so amazing that you're able to,

To create the law of unification using all of these amazing works and have the mind in the eye to see that,

And to really put that out in the world that is incredible.

I just feel that it had to happen like it just,

You know,

Kind of,

I just,

I became a vessel and the work had to happen so yeah,

It just came into existence.

Yeah,

Absolutely.

So,

If I wanted to start practicing the law of unification.

What do you feel would be one of the first things that I will me or you know anyone listening,

Whatever one of the first things that we should do.

I would suggest the first thing we should do while practicing is to become aware about the forces of lower levels of consciousness because this awareness is required.

We cannot practice it,

Start practicing it until we,

You know,

Know about these forces and forces are discussed in detail in the book,

But I'll share a little bit like the other beliefs as I told you,

Again the beliefs that come from lower levels,

Like maybe the ones which are formed in our young age,

Or maybe which are formed which are uninquired beliefs,

Like we never inquired them,

They were just kind of put into our minds and we just accepted them,

And we just cannot remove them we cannot get out of it.

So those beliefs,

They can come from our outer influence of the environment,

Anything.

And we have these desires.

Now these desires to.

There are so many desires which are formed just just by through our environment through what we are looking on social media on television,

Or what people are doing,

Just like we just see them,

Oh this is good.

And then we start like this.

So,

But the desire is uninquired just because the other person is doing it,

Or the person is having it doesn't mean we need to have it as well.

So we need to inquire,

Is this desire coming from that lower level,

Or is this truly my desire my true desire.

So because we are wasting our energy in fulfilling these desires who will never be able to fulfill those higher desires will will get entangled in fulfillment or in running after the smaller ones these lower desires.

And these desires can actually be manifested by simply following those.

These are like substitute desires,

Or you can say,

We just have to follow,

Or we just have to fulfill those higher purpose those higher desires,

And these desires come as a gift from the universe,

They come as,

As you know,

When the universe wants to give you something.

We don't have to run after them to manifest them,

And this is what we do we just try to manifest them,

Just waste our energy,

Our time in doing that.

And he and we also have these attachments like I told before,

These attachments also come from lower levels of consciousness when they are based upon dependency upon something,

Or when it is just due to habits,

We cannot able to,

You know,

Get out of those habits or change those habits,

And we get attached to things,

Or people,

Or to object just because we cannot change our habits,

Out of security.

And we talked about you give an example of that person who wanted to,

You know,

Leave the job but could not do that.

Maybe he was feeling that his life is secure in that for six months or so,

Sort of security we do not leave those things,

But we just do not know that really there is nothing that is secure in this world and world itself is model.

What is,

And we need to evolve,

We just cannot you know,

Hang on to something and feel secure,

It's gonna everything falls away everything dies in this world so we need to disconnect we need to you know kind of a little bit not disconnect,

That's not the right word I would say,

Get a little bit of this detachment and see if that is this is out of security,

Or is this really I need to be where I have to be.

So these are the forces of low levels of consciousness and we need to be aware about them first of all.

Yes,

That's such a good point.

And if we can get into awareness then we can actually do something about,

You know,

When we realize what might be the challenging aspects,

Then can do something about it and having that awareness of either Oh,

Maybe I'm doing really good in this How can I do even better,

Or maybe I'm not doing so good in this,

Is that okay,

Or do I want to improve and just knowing and just having the awareness is so powerful so thank you so much for sharing all the information.

That's right,

Kaylin and even you know this book also has like two parts,

The first one is theory,

And the second one is practice and I've mentioned in the book in the beginning that we need to like read the theory before we go on to practice because until or unless we read the we'll not read theory will not get to know what we are doing with the practices,

Because just practicing is not to know.

And if,

And a little bit of awareness is what grows into that heightened level of awareness.

And if there is no awareness at all,

What we are doing,

Then it's not going to bring that those heightened levels of awareness as well so we need to have that little bit of awareness about the things or what we are actually doing.

Yes,

Definitely.

Definitely.

There.

So,

What came to my mind as you were speaking was sometimes on our paths.

When we do feel like we're following our purpose and we feel very passionate I feel like sometimes it can come.

I'm not sure if waves is the best way to put it but you know,

What do you feel like.

So in general,

Like,

You know,

There's always challenges,

And we're always pushing ourselves to get to the next level and be a little bit better than we were before because I felt like that's just growth,

Growth in life.

But in general,

What is the greatest obstacle when living a life of purpose and having that passion.

Right.

This is true that we need to grow and we have that,

You know,

Mindset like we need to improve or whatever path we are on we need to grow.

And,

You know,

When I was prior to these experiences,

When I was living my life and I used to read these spiritual texts and spiritual books.

And I was a spiritual person but I would say it was not even near what I what I got when I experienced it.

So whatever I read whatever Yeah,

It taught me it gave me a lot of knowledge,

Absolutely,

But until until you know we we get that thing.

We just experience it,

We just do not know what it is.

We cannot frame all those things into words.

So,

Sometimes the obstacle,

Even is are these this knowledge which we are getting are like we try to be spiritual,

And we do these things we do these practices,

A lot of that a lot of times these,

These things also become an obstacle,

Because we just kind of even the identification happens with these things like we get it identified to our,

Our way of living,

Our,

You know these practices,

And all these things get identified to them,

And those things also become an obstacle on this path on this journey to reach out to our purpose,

Maybe our purpose is very different from that.

Because if you know earlier if I had been.

I was reading those checks and I was doing those practices,

It actually became very difficult at that moment when that purpose was coming in,

Like the purpose had to be fulfilled because I was getting identified with all these things even meditation practices when,

When it was when I was not able to meditate it was like it was very scary like why it's because it was,

It was empty it was scary,

And it was really because that identification.

It was just,

You know,

It was lost in a moment.

And,

Yes,

So identification is something which is,

Which is a great obstacle on our back to on this after spiritual journey or maybe on following our purpose.

Yes,

Exactly you hit it so on the nail.

We can have so many challenges along the way.

So many.

And some of the biggest ones are just the ones that we seem like we,

We want to be,

We want to feel like we're on the right path and the things that we're doing that could even just be a challenge in itself.

So it seems like having an open mind about things is a really big deal.

That's right,

That's that's absolutely right,

Even our mind is so fickle and you know,

It's like going from one place to another and it's so difficult for our minds to even when we are aspiring for something,

The mind also comes in like with those thoughts which come in and stops us from following our purpose,

The million times,

And we have to really take care of it,

Like,

We don't have to hear,

Like what it is saying,

Just connecting with the idea mind is the best thing we can do.

And then following those ideas.

Yes,

Yes,

Thank you so much.

The next thing that I want to ask about is.

So,

I feel like one of the best things that we could do in life and on this planet is to serve others and create,

Make help make this world a better place.

And so,

What are your thoughts about serving others,

And in the same way,

How can we relate this to business and in life.

Right and serving like we are all here to serve,

You know,

We cannot even survive if we are not serving each other,

Because that is,

That is the highest purpose that is our highest goal we're all kind of dependent upon each other,

Although it does not seem like that but in a way we are connected we are dependent,

Like,

If a person evolves,

If they are in that field in that consciousness.

So we're all serving each other in a way,

It may be,

Even if we are not speaking we are just serving through you know our energy,

Just being here.

Even when in this book mastering creation,

Using the law of unification mastery is described through service like we have to,

We kind of,

You know,

We have to rise above the forces of the lower levels of consciousness.

And then we have to follow those desires that are coming from the higher levels of consciousness,

And in a way,

The idea mind,

What happens here is the idea mind provides idea to the mind and the mind starts creating those ideas are creating those ideas are manifesting those ideas in the form in the world.

So the idea mind becomes a servant to the mind,

And the mind becomes a servant to the idea mind as well.

So even in the process of unification,

The services there.

So yes,

We all have to serve each other,

Even the minds have to the idea mind and the mind have to be work in collaboration and achieve this mastery through service.

And once we do that,

Once the unification happens,

It automatically happens like the person who is the person who is following the purpose actually gets this realization that,

That,

That he or she is here for,

You know,

Serving others and that's the highest duty he or she is here for.

And then we talk about the creators.

So their path is usually of service,

Even if we talk about you know those highest of the people who have invented things are created some beautiful things in the world.

They have done it out of those feelings of service they will like so much into that they did not follow the status quo they do not follow the what other people were saying they just put all their energy into serving other into working for the highest good.

And this also reminded me of,

You know,

I just,

I just wrote this one.

Like,

I give some suggestions for the best books for purpose and there was this.

I found this beautiful I read this beautiful book about mother Teresa.

Mother Teresa had this beautiful,

Whatever she created like with that small purpose she had in mind of loving and serving others.

It just formed it just created this big wave and,

You know,

A big mission out of that,

And that was so beautiful how service,

Or how serving others can break,

Bring so many big things into the world.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Serving others.

I feel like always is intertwined with our life purpose.

And what it is that we do and what we're so called to do one of the things I want to get your,

Your thoughts on what we have about five to 10 minutes left is.

So,

I personally feel like sometimes our biggest struggles are so I don't like the word struggles as much as I feel like challenges I like challenges because I feel like a challenge is something that we can overcome and struggle is just like.

I like to struggle,

Probably something gets overcome but I like challenge I just feel like it feels better.

But anyway,

I feel like some of our biggest challenges in life,

The biggest thing that we had to overcome is the exact thing that we can help other people overcome.

And that could very well be something that we're meant to do.

And that was why it was put in our path.

Right,

Right,

Right.

That's true.

The challenges,

You know,

Even I,

When I talk about,

I have this,

Like,

There is this thing about challenges in when we learn the lessons from the creators because the book again follows what creators are doing.

The first thing they do is they challenge the old conditioning.

So this is like the first lesson in the book.

When we talk about the lessons of the creators,

And there are so many challenges and the best one is,

If we can challenge this old conditioning we all have here,

And creators do that,

That is how they serve others because if you cannot do that,

We are just gonna you know keep fulfilling those lower desires,

Those lower things which we,

Which are coming from other people are which we are carrying out from,

From generations and generations,

We are just serving those things that is not that is not what we are here for.

So,

Even when we are helping other people to,

You know,

Overcome challenges.

We need to,

I think this is the best thing we can do we can help them overcome the conditioning,

Because that is what brings in suffering.

And this is how we can help others and this is how we can help ourselves.

So,

Challenging those old conditionings in our lives,

And not just not just changing them but actually challenging them and rising above those old levels and connecting with the new levels which are available for us.

Yeah,

This is how we can help you know overcome the challenges.

I mean for me if I talk about me.

I think that is that is what challenges are,

I think,

You know struggle,

If we talk about like you said struggle is the word of the use,

It generally happens,

The struggle only comes in.

If you try to fight.

So,

If you try to you know fight those desires those higher desires.

And this is also again this is as explained in the book very nicely through a motive which was,

We just kept in I think some museum,

There is this figure of your there's the statue of the bird and the reptile again and in a fight or something like that.

And again,

What is happening here is the higher consciousness is providing the ideas to bring in the new,

And the mind is struggling,

Why it's struggling it's like fighting that with its reasons,

With its notions that no it does not want to accept it.

And it happens a lot of times and it turns into a struggle for us.

That is why we struggle,

There is no other reason,

The humans can struggle it's a beautiful life.

All we need to do is we need to accept those ideas.

We need to give them form in the world,

And it's so easy.

And then the struggle vanishes that suffering vanishes it's beautiful.

And because,

You know,

We also people around us the environment around us to not understand this.

So we really need to,

We need to make give it form in the world so that people can start accepting it easily like we need to create awareness maybe like you're also doing it with the our podcast your lovely universe and you're creating awareness about it so yeah we need to do that,

We need to create awareness.

Yes,

Thank you so much for sharing your insights.

One of my last questions before we get into,

You know,

Questions that I typically ask everybody is,

What is self mastery?

Self mastery is again very simple it's mastering those forces of the lower levels of consciousness,

Because they come from ourselves like from inside,

But we do not know that.

And we need to master them.

And that is once we master them once we rise above them,

We can connect with the idea mind,

And we can connect the idea mind is like a link between the higher levels of consciousness and the mind.

And once we connect with the idea mind we can easily connect with the high levels of consciousness and bring those ideas and manifest them into our into this world and walk and,

You know,

The individual Dharma,

Like follow our individual Dharma so individual Dharma.

It's also found in the idea mind idea mind is the provider of our individual Dharma.

So it's like,

Once you connect with that,

This realization comes in that yeah this is my purpose.

This is my individual Dharma.

So,

Self mastery is again the first step like to rise above that to connect with that,

And then the whole unification happens.

Awesome.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Do you have any final messages for listeners.

I think I have shared a lot and in case anyone you know there are any other information,

Your listeners want to have they can always connect with me on my website.

Awesome,

And I'll have that links in the description below is,

Would you like to share any other places to connect with you or where to find your book.

Yeah,

I think they can find it on my website so we have this auditor book button on the website and once they click on that they'll find all the retailers where they can get the book from.

Awesome.

Thank you so much,

And I'll make sure that I include your website in the description.

And I really really appreciate you coming on to talk about life purpose I really enjoyed our conversation.

And then it was so wonderful talking to you and,

You know,

You are doing a really good job by following your purpose.

Oh,

Thank you so much.

That brings a lot of joy to me.

Thank you.

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