Building Your Dream With Mary Morrissey

Join me in a powerful conversation with Mary Morrissey, a personal growth expert of 50 years, who shares her insights, wisdom, and proven practices to build the life you dream of. Mary is a bestselling author, international speaker, and global spiritual luminary who shares the laws of the universe that are crucial to understanding in birthing your greater vision. This conversation is from the You-est You podcast and is geared to help you actualize your fullest potential, brave dreamer.

Transcript

Well,

Hello,

USU family,

Community of listeners.

I am Julie Riesler,

Your host.

So,

So excited.

So excited about today's conversation.

And I know you are going to want to put on your seatbelt,

Make some time,

Get your cup of tea.

As always,

I'll be taking notes,

But I'm really grateful and honored to share this beautiful guest today with you.

I have been an admirer of Mary for a long time.

Let me tell you a little bit about our guest,

And then you're going to get to meet her yourself.

Mary Morrissey has made it her mission to empower people to create and live a life they absolutely love.

For over 50 years,

Mary has studied the art and science of transforming dreams into results.

Mary is the founder of the Brave Thinking Institute,

The world's premier provider of transformational training and coaching.

Through life-changing books,

Events,

And programs,

Mary has helped millions of people tap into the power within them to achieve new levels of success and experience a deeper sense of meaning and purpose.

Mary holds a master's degree in counseling psychology and an honorary doctorate in humane letters.

She has addressed the United Nations three times,

Co-convened three week long meetings with His Holiness the Dalai Lama,

And met with President Nelson Mandela in South Africa.

She has written two best-selling books,

No Less Than Greatness and Building Your Field of Dreams,

Which became a PBS special.

In October 2022,

Mary will release her newest book,

I am so excited about this one,

Brave Thinking,

Unlocking the Hidden Code for Overcoming Life's Challenges and Achieving Your Greatest Dreams.

Today,

Mary is focused on a bold dream,

One billion dreams achieved around the world.

She's with us today because the dream begins with you.

I love that.

Mary,

Thank you.

It has been my dream to have you here and to share your wisdom and your heart,

So thank you.

There's one dream that already is true.

There you go,

Julie,

I'll add it up.

I know,

I'm like,

I don't know what number you're on,

But there's one more.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

I just,

You know,

50 years in this field and world,

I mean,

Number one,

I was like,

You don't even look like you're old enough to be doing this,

50 years,

But I just think for those that might be newer to you and your background and story,

I always love to share a little bit about your origin story.

And,

You know,

I know that you have a pretty intensive one and just for people to get to know you better and kind of how you really found yourself into this powerful work.

Well,

Thank you for that.

So I start by saying hi to every one of us that are here gathered in this moment.

Yeah,

I wasn't born understanding transformation.

I lived a life where for the first number of years of my life,

I felt like life was happening to me.

I had a happy life.

I had parents who loved each other.

I had a sister who was eight years older.

I had a high school experience like most young girls dream about.

I was class vice president on the drill team,

Had a lead in the junior year play.

I was in my junior year,

I was homecoming princess.

And at the end of my junior year in high school,

I was pregnant.

My high school boyfriend had gone off to college,

Came back on spring break,

I got pregnant.

May one,

I tell my parents,

I'm now pregnant.

We had a very hasty 10 person wedding.

Two weeks later,

The principal of the high school called me to his office and said,

Are these rumors I'm hearing about you true?

And I said,

Well,

If the rumors are that I'm pregnant and married in that order,

Then yes,

They're true.

And he just put his head in his hands and he says,

Mary,

You have terrific honors and great grades but you will not be allowed to return here for your senior year in high school.

It would be totally inappropriate for a pregnant girl to get mixed in with the normal girls.

This is 1966,

Portland,

Oregon.

He says,

But if you wanna get a high school diploma,

Which I did because my dream had been to go to college and become a teacher myself.

So if you wanna get a high school diploma,

There's a place for people like you.

It's not held during daylight hours.

This school,

This high school is across the river.

Actually,

It was in a part of Portland I hadn't been allowed to drive in after dark.

It's not held during daylight hours,

It's after dark.

And it's a place where the pregnant girls and the delinquent boys go to high school.

So I enrolled in what was called Washington Evening High School.

The sign said Washington High School,

Which it was during the daytime for normal kids.

And then at night,

Without changing the sign,

It became Washington Evening High School.

I remember the first night in September,

I'm driving there,

I park,

I walk up to the steps to that school.

Now I'm thinking,

Okay,

Every girl here is either pregnant or has a baby.

Every guy is some kind of delinquent.

This is my new student body.

And I went in,

Registered.

My son was born in December of 1966.

And I graduated from Washington Evening High School in May.

And then in July of 1967.

My son is seven months old,

And I am now diagnosed with fatal kidney disease.

I found myself at this point,

I'm in an intensive care ward in a Portland hospital diagnosed with fatal kidney disease.

One kidney was totally destroyed with nephritis or kidney disease.

The other was 50% destroyed,

Active nephritis.

And in 1967,

We don't have dialysis,

We don't have transplants.

This is a death sentence.

And I'm terrified that I'm not gonna see my little boy walk maybe or go to kindergarten or any of the things that you dream,

Young mom dreams for her child.

And finally,

The night before the surgery was scheduled to remove the right kidney.

And during that time,

Julie,

I'm feeling like,

Oh,

I'm gonna die because I'm a bad girl.

I mean,

My mother,

The friends of my four best girlfriends,

Three best girlfriends,

There were four of us who hung out from third grade on.

At the point when I got pregnant,

They refused their daughters to see me anymore as if what I had was contagious.

So I got kicked out of my school.

My best friends couldn't see me.

I'm sent to a school with delinquents.

I mean,

That's pretty strong messages about who you are now.

And I just felt like I was a bad girl and I must be gonna die because I'm being punished.

The god of my upbringing was not a friendly place to go when you felt like you had really screwed up.

And I felt like clearly I had screwed up.

But the night before the surgery was scheduled,

A woman walked in my room and she identified herself as a chaplain who was praying with people.

She said,

I come several times a week and I'm given a list of the most dangerous surgeries that are happening tomorrow.

Your name's at the top of the list.

Would you like someone to pray with you?

And even though the god of my upbringing was not a friendly place to go when you felt like you screwed up,

I was scared.

And so I said,

Yes,

I guess so.

And so she pulled her chair next to my bed.

She didn't do anything that looked like or seemed like prayer to me.

She talked to me.

And she asked me,

First,

Would you be willing to tell me what's been going on in your life the last year or two?

So I told her my story.

At the end of which,

She looked at me compassionately and she said,

Mary,

Everything's created twice.

And today I would say I had no landing page for that.

I didn't know what the heck he was talking about.

What do you mean everything's created twice?

And then she leaned in and she said,

You actually know this.

In fact,

Everybody knows it.

And almost nobody knows the power of knowing this.

And then she said,

The bed you're laying on,

The nightgown you're wearing,

The sheet covering you,

The walls,

The ceilings,

The floor,

And all this machinery you hooked up to,

First it had to be a thought before it could be a thing.

And then she said,

If you could live,

What would you do with your life?

And I knew exactly what I would do with my life.

I said,

Well,

I would raise my little boy and I would become a teacher.

And then she said,

So I hear how much you love your little boy,

But I also hear how much you've been hating yourself.

You feel like you shamed your school,

You shamed your family,

You shamed yourself.

And now that you're considering how everything is created twice,

Could you consider the possibility that there could be a correlation between those toxic self-loathing thoughts that you've been thinking and the toxicity that is rampaging your body and threatening your very life?

Nobody I knew thought this way.

I mean,

There was no,

There were no,

This is before mind-body clinics in major teaching,

Not one at Harvard,

Not one at Stanford,

Not one at UCLA in those days.

Nobody was connecting mind-body in health to emotional connections.

That just wasn't happening in 1967.

But she said,

Could you believe it's possible that there could be some correlation of it?

And she said,

And then she said again,

I hear how much you love your little boy.

So could you believe,

She said,

I want you to think for a moment,

There are infinite possibilities in the universe.

Couldn't there be a possibility that we could say a prayer and then all that self-loathing that's been in your system,

We could take it in that kidney,

And when it's removed,

Instead of you dying,

You got better.

Could you believe that's possible?

And I went,

You're just gonna say a prayer?

She says,

What if we even just said a prayer and it just evaporated?

And then morning they said,

You can go home.

I said,

I can't believe that.

I was,

I believe way more in my pain than in her holding the idea that I could get well like that.

And then she said,

All right,

If you can't believe that,

Can you believe it's possible that you could have the kidney removed,

Replace all that self-loathing in it,

Instead of getting worse,

You'd start to get better.

Could you believe that?

And at that moment,

An interesting thing happened for me.

I could tell,

I didn't believe it,

But I could tell she believed it.

She believed it was possible.

And it was the first time in my life that I decided to borrow the belief of someone who was believing a larger,

More expensive way than I was.

And I said,

Well,

I don't know if it's probable,

But maybe it's possible.

And then she said,

That's all we need.

One corner of your mind open to the possibility.

And she latched on that.

And she said,

Let's work with that.

Now,

Today we have all kinds of writings from David Bohm,

Shell Drake,

Talbot out of Stanford on holographic universe and how that is really all we need.

One corner of our mind open to the possibility if we resonate from that,

We can move mountains.

And what happened was she said,

All right.

So then she said to me,

So Mary,

In the morning,

They're gonna do the surgery in a moment.

We'll scoop that up.

We'll just do it with a visualization.

She didn't even call it a prayer.

And she said,

So in the morning,

When they take you for surgery,

When they come back,

You're gonna have some pain.

The first few days,

Your mind will be thinking more about the pain than its normal thinking patterns.

But as that pain ebbs,

Your mind is going to want to go down the well-worn thought patterns that you've been thinking along.

So here's what I want you to do.

I want you to,

Every time you noticed you're starting to think a self-loathing thought,

Interrupt it and say,

No,

That left with the kidney.

Then immediately imagine that you're holding a little boy's hand.

He's five years old.

Feel the warmth of his hand in yours.

And you're walking up to a school and you go up to steps into the school and there's a kindergarten teacher.

And it's your little boy holding your hand.

And he's so thrilled to get to go to kindergarten.

You hug him and he goes off with a happy teacher into his kindergarten class.

And you hear the click,

Click,

Click of your heels.

And you go around the corner and there's your classroom.

And this is your brand new classroom and you're a teacher.

And fast forward in your mind and you're sitting in a great big stadium or auditorium and there are caps and gowns all down below.

And your son's name is called and he walks across the stage.

The principal hands him his high school diploma and he lifts it up and you're up in the stands and you're cheering for him.

And you're so grateful for all the many moments of support you were able to give him to help him achieve this goal in his life.

And your teaching career is growing.

Then fast forward in your mind and you're sitting in the front row of a wedding and your son's marrying the love of his life.

And you're the mother of the groom.

How happy you are for him,

How fulfilled you feel for him.

And your teaching career is flourishing.

And she said,

Just keep repeating that.

And then she did the prayer or the visualization where we just went through all the self-loathing,

Put it in the kidney,

Said in the morning when that leaves,

It'll never be with you again.

She said,

And she walked out.

When they came to get me in the morning for surgery,

I noticed something.

I had slept that night.

I had not been able to sleep an entire night for weeks,

No matter how much pain medication they gave me.

They took me to surgery account,

Brought me back.

And within about two weeks after that surgery,

My numbers had stabilized.

When the surgery happened,

The doctor,

The surgeon told my family that was gathered,

My husband and my parents were there,

That the one kidney was totally destroyed.

The other kidney was 50% destroyed,

Muddled and withered.

So they didn't know if I'd have six months.

They didn't know how long I would have.

But now two weeks later,

My numbers have stabilized.

And so they said,

Well,

Maybe you're gonna have a little more time than we thought.

If you wanna go home for a while,

You have to come back to the hospital and be with your little boys.

So I jumped at that chance,

Even though I couldn't lift my head off the pillow,

I went home in an ambulance.

I must have been an unconscious competent,

What we would call that today,

Where I was doing the thing,

But I didn't know I was doing the thing,

Or I was doing these visualizations and moving my mind and emotion from self-loathing to living a life I would love living.

And so I had to go to the neurologist several times a week to be just have my numbers checked so they'd know when to bring me back to the hospital.

And my numbers stabilized,

And then they just slightly started improving and improving and improving.

And somewhere between five and six months after the surgery,

They held a meeting in the hospital conference room with the surgeon,

The specialist,

The nephrologist,

The GP and tech people who had done,

Had all my reports.

And they were just scratching their heads saying,

We have no science for why that one kid and the surgeon said,

I saw it.

It was modeled,

It was withered.

There's no science for why this kidney should be acting and functioning like a whole functioning kidney.

We don't know how long this will last or if it will last,

But,

And then they said to me,

Whatever you're doing,

Keep doing it.

I didn't know what I was doing.

I didn't know what it was,

But evidently I did keep doing it.

And then a few years later,

I'm getting my undergraduate degree and a series of things occur in October of 19th.

I'm in October of 1971.

And I begin to see,

Oh,

I see what happened here.

And I'd be,

And I touched what today we would call that place that's inside every single one of us that is more than our circumstance,

Situations and conditions.

It is in transcendentalism,

They call it the transcend itself.

There's many different names for it,

But we all have a place in us,

A power in us that's greater than what's happening in our lives.

And the ability to navigate from a point of power instead of as a victim.

And I began to see that my whole life I had lived as if life was happening to me.

And now I've found a way to begin to interact with life in a way that it was happening with me and through me,

As me.

And that was all I wanted to study.

And pretty soon I knew I didn't wanna just teach classical classroom things.

This would be what I wanted to teach.

I did get my undergraduate degree.

I did teach classical classroom while I was going to seminary because in those days there was no way to teach transformation unless you were a minister of some kind.

So I became a non-denominational minister and began my own work,

Traveled the country,

Speaking and teaching.

And that has been the forefront of my study now for 50 years,

Since 1971.

I have studied every single day from the world religions,

The psychologies,

The new sciences.

And what's very fun today of course,

Is to have the new science emerging to confirm things that were in the stream of truth that's been showing itself to people for many,

Many centuries on this planet who were curious and interested.

Most people sadly live and die and never know that they have a power in them that is greater in circumstance,

Situation and condition.

So they're always living at effect of,

Well,

I could do this if I had the money.

I could do that if I had the time.

I could do that if I felt stronger in myself.

And all of this is malleable.

Out to the vibration.

We know when we turn on our television,

If we don't like the picture we're looking at,

We can change the frequency.

Well,

The pictures we see in our life of our results are actually an effect of the frequency or the pattern of thinking we've been operating by.

And that can be changed.

And you actually can have a life.

You absolutely love living,

But not in the thinking patterns that produce constriction and victimhood.

We have,

As we change our thought patterns and align with what we would really love,

We begin to see all the kinds of things beginning to shift in your life.

It is the most fun work I can imagine that I've been doing all these years,

Helping people transform their lives.

And that's how I got into it.

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Back to the interview.

Wow.

Just beautiful,

Believable,

Unbelievable.

You know,

Just the,

You know,

I think of that divine appointment of that chaplain who happened to,

I'm thinking back,

I wasn't here in 1966,

But I can imagine in that time frame that was revolutionary to have somebody that,

As you said,

Just found the little corner of your mind that could believe or hold her belief.

And what has birthed from there,

It is so powerful,

Mary,

And I have to ask,

Because now I'm wondering,

Like with your kidneys and health,

So I'm assuming.

Well,

Here I am.

You're here,

You look like incredibly youthful.

On this day when we are recording,

I am 72 years old,

And that blessed kidney has been operating perfectly ever since,

Ever since.

And I had three more children.

When,

Yeah,

I have an amazing,

Wonderful four kids and life.

So I would,

Yeah,

No,

There's nothing,

There's nothing that can't be transformed and changed as it's all,

You know,

We're in this wonderful sea of energy and it'll become whatever we're in harmony with.

I feel like I'm having this moment of there are so many places we could go because there's a lot here.

And I think for some that are just,

You know,

When you say the sea of energy,

Or you talked about,

You know,

Those patterns of thinking,

Like I would love to do that if I had the money to,

I would love to try that if I had the time or the bandwidth.

What,

You know,

Maybe it's very kind of practical,

But I'm curious because this is,

You know,

I know I'm sure over the 50 years you hear this all the time.

Where do you begin with somebody,

Like for all of us listening,

Where to begin?

So there's the sea of energy or frequency.

Where do you typically start with someone?

I start with someone by doing a life assessment first,

Where I mentioned to them,

We are in a sea of infinite,

There's infinite possibilities,

But we have probabilities that are more in alignment with how we tend to live our life.

And most of us live lives reactively.

So we get an idea of something we would love and we go,

Well,

I can't do that because of the money.

So we look to conditions,

Circumstances,

For permission to do what we wanna do.

And it's really backwards.

You're not in your own creative power when you're looking outside yourself for permission to be or do what you want.

And you don't wanna deny conditions.

You're not denying that currently I don't have the money to do it,

But that I can't do it because I don't have the money is another matter.

So the first thing in doing a life assessment is we have four major areas of life where we are creating results anyway.

We're having results anyway.

So if we just look at those,

We have health results,

We can measure those.

We have the quality of our relationships results right now,

We're either in dynamically alive,

Supportive,

Loving,

Caring,

Deep relationships,

Or we have some other version of relationships,

Some more this,

Some not that.

We have what we're doing with our time and talent,

Whether you are an income doing it or not,

You are doing something with your time and talent.

How fulfilling is it?

How meaningful,

How purposeful,

How impact bringing is it?

Do you love it or do you check your soul at the door when you walk into someplace and then just trade your time for money?

And your soul is leaking out while you're trading time for money.

And yet that's the way you found to be able to be responsible and pay the bills and help your kids and do the things that ordinary people know that we wanna be doing.

And then there's how much time and money freedom you have.

That's a quadrant of result.

And you can look at these quadrants and I invite people to get honest with themselves.

I walk them through a process of this and then to notice two things because these are your results,

But they're not you.

You are more than those results.

So,

And the you that is really you,

See none of us created ourselves,

Julie,

We all know this.

We didn't create ourselves.

We can't even under our own personal power,

Take one breath or make our heart beat one time.

There's a presence of power,

A life energy that moves into and through us at every given moment.

And it is this life that we call our own.

So as we begin to notice that it talks to us in two ways,

Life is ever seeking a freer,

Fuller,

Expanded version of itself by means of itself.

So if you notice that life energy is pressing through a blade of grass today to become the best blade of grass it could become,

It'll press through cement seeking the light.

That energy is pressing on the edges of the tree to become more of itself today.

And that same energy is pressing into and through you and me.

We're in a spiral universe,

Our very DNA is a spiral.

So there's that ever upward pole of becoming that's everywhere present.

We feel it in ourselves,

But we thwart it.

Well,

I can't because it's not convenient or I can't because I don't have the money or I can't because of the zillion reasons.

But when you do a life assessment and you start there and you bring the awareness that the life that's seeking a greater expression by means of you,

Which is your life,

And it would love to experience,

It does speak in the name of love.

And it's seeking to express greater,

It sends signals in two ways,

Longing and discontent.

And you're doing the dishes and you're just like,

Oh,

I would just love it if I could take the kids to Disneyland.

The discontent is,

Oh,

But I don't have the money.

Or I would love it if we had a bigger house and the kids could really run in the backyard and they could have their doll.

Oh,

But then you feel the discontent or the constriction.

So it's expansion and contraction.

But if you're not noticing what you're noticing,

Which is the number one thing for self-awareness is to notice your longing,

Notice your discontent.

So I take them through a process of noticing what they're in love with and what they're not in love with with their help.

Where's the longing?

Where's the discontent?

Where's in relationships?

Some people will live,

They will long for that love of their life,

But they'll be in patterns of thinking and being that will always keep them crawling into bed by themselves.

But it isn't that they're,

And then they make up,

As humans,

We make up these superstitious stories like,

Oh,

It's not in the cards.

Or maybe it's not God's will for me.

There is no will that you don't have what you love.

It's,

You think about it this way.

If you came home tonight and you walked in your house or your apartment and you flipped the switch and no light came on,

And you look out the windows and you see all up and down your street,

Others have light.

You don't go,

Oh,

I guess it's not in the cards for me to have light.

Maybe it's not God's will for me to have light tonight.

I should have meditated more or prayed harder.

No,

We think there's a wiring problem here.

And we,

Either we know how to fix it or we get somebody who does to help us.

And that's all it is,

Is the vibration we're working with,

Can't produce it because we're not in harmony with it.

You can have and be and do and give whatever you get in harmony with,

But the technology for doing that is not,

Anything that we teach in school,

We teach condition-based thinking,

Condition-based.

And there's,

So I never advise people to ignore their conditions,

But you ignore the power of those conditions to keep you from being who you wanna be and get bringing forth what you wanna bring forth.

But you can't do that until you know what it is.

So the life assessments helps people.

So when we do the life assessment,

Usually one or two quadrants will be the strongest of the longing for their discontent for somebody or the longing to transform either the health relationship,

Health area,

The relationship area.

Many people want greater time and money,

Freedom,

Or the vocation area.

And then there is a system of transformation that doesn't belong to me.

It really belongs to,

Call it the infinite or the universe or whatever name you bring to it,

Spirit,

Energy.

There is a system of how all transformation occurs.

And when you begin to apply it in your life,

You,

Many people are shocked and amazed at how easy it is to transform results because they're at the center of their own results.

And when we change us,

All those results begin to change and how easy it is really relatively to bring about a whole new set of results that are much more expansive,

Life-giving,

Aligned with who you really wanna be,

What you wanna bring forth.

Thank you for such,

Just for going over that.

And I keep coming back to,

With your experience,

The toxicity of the self-loathing that you experienced being from the outside told,

I can't even imagine,

A bad girl and I mean,

Put in a delinquent situation.

I mean,

I know it's a different time today,

So that would probably happen in that way,

But that's what- Yeah,

People are so sent off.

Often young women are sent off to places.

Absolutely,

Yeah.

And that,

The belief of that and how that manifested in your body.

And I've heard the energy that makes my body can heal my body and really just looking at you and what,

I was with you in that,

That's a frightening moment.

You're already a young mom.

This was,

And look at what has happened.

And I know you've worked with so many thousands,

Probably millions of people.

It's really interesting,

The piece too,

About you gotta notice what you're noticing.

And I'm curious,

I feel like,

And I don't wanna make light of the pandemic we've been going through,

But what I have experienced personally and curious about is this pandemic of self-loathing and lack of worthiness,

Which to me,

Just in what you're saying,

It's hard to be in harmony if you have those thoughts about yourself.

Well,

Once you begin to identify and recognize there's a part of me that is,

I have a personality,

It's in my personality piece where I don't really know who I am,

That's who I think I am.

But there's part of me that's breathing me.

There's a part of me that,

And I have a body,

But I'm not the body.

I am more than that body.

I have thoughts,

But I'm not those thoughts.

I have thoughts.

I have emotions,

But I am more than those emotions.

When you begin to relate to that,

You begin to notice your thoughts.

If you're noticing what you're noticing,

I can notice thoughts where,

Oh,

I say,

I'm gonna do this,

But I'm just being an imposter.

Or we talk about this imposter syndrome.

You don't feel like a success when you're beginning.

So you put yourself anyway in a success mindset and serve it while it's coming together.

People say,

In my world where we do some training of coaches,

They go,

When will you feel ready?

I said,

You don't ever feel ready.

You do it,

And that brings the readiness.

I said,

If I had waited till I was perfect to do my work in the world,

I would still be waiting.

There's no perfect,

It's growth.

So you care more about helping people than about your own,

What's going on for you.

And I just give them the steps to take.

But this is true for all of us.

If you wanna be a great anything,

You're not gonna feel great at it when you begin.

You have to be willing to talk yourself through it and be willing to do it afraid and be willing to do it imperfectly.

And what I have found over the years,

Julie,

Is it's not about what the real gift of transformation and the real gift of having a dream that really has you.

You don't just have it,

It has you.

It's what you would really love to bring forth in areas of life is that it's who you become in the process.

It's a real gift.

Yes,

Having a relationship,

The health,

The money,

The house,

All of those things are wonderful.

But what's really wonderful is who you became in the process to produce a result like that,

Because that's with you forever.

Ooh,

It's electrifying hearing you.

I think of,

I don't know what movie it was from,

When I think it was Pretty Woman at the end,

Like everyone has a dream,

What's your dream?

And I'm just,

The credits are running,

And I'm like,

I'm hearing that.

And just really tuning in that we all,

This idea of what you were saying,

So beautiful,

Life,

The divine love,

Spirit,

It's dreaming through you as you.

And so those dreams,

Just in listening to you,

And I so believe this,

They're sacred.

They are sacred.

And this works for everybody.

It doesn't matter where you are,

What the conditions are,

How struggling you've been,

How hard it's been,

None of those conditions.

It's not that they don't have influence in your life,

They do,

But they are not more powerful than you.

And as you begin to work with this technology,

It shows you how it works.

But it works the way it works.

I can't make it work the way I want it to work.

I have to work with it the way it works.

And that's been the focus of my study and trainings over many,

Many years.

Mm.

Well,

I know before we come to a close,

I would love to talk just,

I know your next book is coming out soon,

And just to really,

This brave thinking,

Unlocking hidden code to overcoming life's challenges and achieving your greatest dream.

Can you give us the high level of,

I mean,

I just,

I always love your work.

What is really the epicenter of this book,

And maybe a teaching or two or a tool that people can walk away with?

Here's a couple of things.

One is you can't have a life you love until you dream one up.

You know,

No dream can come true if you don't dream it.

And each dream begins with a dreamer.

So this is where you look at the current life you have and what am I in love with?

Much of your life you may be really in love with,

And other parts of it,

Not so much.

So should you take on the journey for growth to transform that,

It will take you on,

I believe,

A grand journey.

But you have to notice it,

And then there's a technology for applying it.

So the proven reliable,

What I call repeatable system of transformation is threaded through the new,

The book,

Brave thinking.

That's why I transformed my work into the overall umbrella of Brave Thinking Institute.

And all the work that we do is based in this.

So like I said,

You know it's true with your television.

You're never gonna get off CNN,

Constantly negative news,

Problem,

Problem,

After another,

If you stay tuned to CNN.

And it does you no good to get in front of the television and beg that it changed the channel or give you a different result.

You have to change the frequency.

It's easy to do with a remote control,

Not so easy with me.

How do I change the frequency I'm coming from?

And most of us,

When I have it in my hand,

Then all feel better.

So it's a reverse engineering really of you living a life that's in harmony with what you would love when it hasn't yet happened.

And how you do that.

How do you actually create a life you love living?

Because everybody's gonna have challenges.

It's not the idea of a life without challenges is not a life that is the opportune life for us here.

I mean,

There are gonna be challenges.

Every time you're in growth,

There's challenges.

But one of the tools you think,

Well,

Yeah,

But I'm just not a person who,

Or I've done that before and it just never works out for me.

And start adding the words up until now.

Up until now,

That may have been true.

But every time you hear yourself thinking or speaking a self-limiting thought,

Say up until now.

And then give the subconscious a command,

A new command.

Captain's turning the ship here.

Up until now,

But now I'm gonna take some steps.

Now I'm even gonna take baby steps.

And I'm a firm believer,

Once you have a vision in baby steps,

Five minutes,

You move five minutes in the direction of your dream,

You've moved energy.

Because baby steps will take you all the way up Mount Everest if you just keep taking them.

And the gift and the goal is to keep taking them.

Oh gosh,

That is,

I feel like everyone listening.

Hopefully you got it.

I mean,

I can't stop taking notes here,

But that is so powerful.

That's such a great reminder.

Anytime you catch yourself saying something,

You add that is not moving you in the direction of your dreams,

Your highest good,

You add up until now.

Oh my gosh,

Mary,

I could sit with you for another five hours.

Cause I'm curious,

Like what else you've,

The people you've worked with and the transformative stories and the miracles,

I'm sure you have so many that you've seen.

And I love what you said,

This reminder,

Cause I can just imagine someone listening like,

Well,

That worked for her.

No,

This works for all human beings is what you've seen.

And now.

No,

It's the way it works for all of us.

Yeah,

It's for all of us.

Amazing.

I just wanna share one of the other things for everyone listening that you have so graciously gifted a free guided meditation to unlock the energy of the universe in each of us,

Which is so beautiful.

And we'll have that information.

I just wanna thank you for that.

You're welcome.

And to be able to do this deliberate manifestation from peace and ease.

And I will make sure we have the link.

I know that it's,

That BTI is Brave Thinking Institute,

Btio.

Com and then slash,

You can use the code UEST,

Y-O-U-E-S-T.

We'll have it in the notes too.

Thank you because I can guarantee,

I don't know who's not gonna go listen to this and start noticing what our thoughts are that are not us,

What our emotions,

I love that reminder.

It's kind of that,

Those thoughts,

Just notice them.

They are,

Good reminder,

Those emotions,

That's not me.

That is.

No,

It's not the real you.

It's,

Yeah.

So Julie,

I wanna thank you for your work too.

I wanna thank you for what you do to make these messages,

Reach into the minds and hearts of people everywhere and really your light and who you are.

So thank you,

Julie.

Thank you,

Thank you.

What a gift to have you,

Mary.

And everyone tuning in,

We will have all the info on this beautiful guided meditation.

I know,

What an honor to have Mary Morrissey here today.

And please share in your comments what you're noticing takeaways,

And please,

Please,

Please,

Please trust and honor those sacred dreams and tune into all things.

Mary Morrissey,

She is just a beautiful luminary.

And Mary,

Thank you so much.

You're welcome.

Reviews

Great interview! I took Mary’s Dream Builder course & attended a Dream Builder Live in 2018 made profound shifts in my life. 🦋

Thank you for your work! I am in the process of recreating myself. Goose bumps the whole talk.

Excellent thank you!

Not enough words…so good. Thanks, Julie. 🙏🥰
How do we access the meditation gift from Mary?

Powerful!

Feeling so grateful for the serendipity of listening to your talk this morning 🙏 I’m excited to learn more about BTI and the empowering work both you and Mary are sharing with others.
Namaste and blessings.