Shiva's Wheel - OM School Live

"All the gods and goddesses, all the angels and devils, are all you." - Joseph Campbell

Shiva is the Hindu god associated with destruction. But, oddly enough, he is also the god of manifestation. The most important thing to ponder whenever hearing about these ancient archetypes or looking at the stunning artwork is that all they represent you. The transcendent, which is the ultimate reality, can't really be put into words.

Yet you are that!

Transcript

Welcome to The Flow from Ohm School Live.

The Flow is a profound mix of wisdom and humor as student Lisa Berry asks spiritual teacher G.

P.

Walsh questions you would ask an elder,

A wise man,

Or a sage,

And receive direct,

Simple,

Comprehensive,

And deeply human lessons and teachings.

Step into these conversations with a master spiritual teacher and discover that you are way more than you think you are.

You are The Flow.

Wonderful.

Oh,

Good,

Good.

Welcome everybody.

Hello.

I like to wave.

I feel like I'm on the Queen's float.

Oh,

Hello,

Everyone.

You are here joining us,

Hopefully,

Hopefully,

On the new version of The Flow from Ohm Schooling.

We've transitioned from doing the show radio wise on Ohm Times Radio over here to this lovely group.

If you have anybody else who catches us,

Please let us know where you're watching from and comment and all those things.

G.

P.

,

I'm glad that we clarified this.

I at first was thinking last week that we were doing more of just that set song hosting type thing,

But we are in fact recreating our radio show,

But just giving a visual and some little bit of interaction with the comments.

So we're going to follow the format of me being the student again in school.

You are the voice of all the listeners.

Oh,

I like that.

Okay,

That's a word coining that term.

I like that.

All right.

So we still will be able to see the comments and I'm going to catch them.

But we do have a theme,

Which is Shiva's Wheel today.

And G.

P.

,

I'm going to ask my nice,

Broad,

Giant question.

But first I'll share that when I first started learning about the Hindu religion and all their beautiful gods,

I really did think it was,

They worshipped all these gods.

I wasn't aware.

I didn't know.

I wasn't taught that it was the aspects and versions of ourselves.

And so that's actually where I would like to start because people are thinking,

Who cares if Shiva has a wheel?

What is it?

So who is Shiva and why does she have a wheel?

Or he?

Yeah,

Why not four and have a car?

Or a god for crying out loud?

Well unfortunately the West has become extremely literal and historical.

And so the Western model of religion is god as creator,

Man and woman as creation,

Or all the earth and everything as creation.

And the two are forever separate.

And so religion becomes rules that you follow and practices you do in order to get back to or to maintain a relationship between you and this supreme being.

And this is the way we see it.

And we think of other cultures that have more than one god or,

You know,

Pagan religions,

You know,

Animal spirits and things like that,

As if they were like these primitives who thought there were,

You know,

Spirits and fairies and things like that.

The Western mind just couldn't grasp the fact that there was a sense of unity,

A sense of oneness behind it,

That they were perceiving behind everything in creation,

An essence,

An essential sense of being,

Which,

You know,

It appears as the mountain,

It appears as the stream.

And every one of these had kind of the supreme essence and the Native Americans refer to it as the Great Spirit,

Which is the spirit that permeates everything.

And so in every culture,

Gods,

The gods and goddesses were not a primitive culture worshiping something external to themselves.

They were simply recognizing this mysterious essence that animated everything.

And appeared,

There was a sense of similarity,

There was a sense of unity about it,

That it was like whether it appeared as the mountain or the lake or the stream or the fox or the sun,

It was always,

There was,

It was essentially the same essence.

And now religion became not attempting to have a relationship with this,

But to recognize it as imminent in all things,

Because that would mean it's me too.

And so all of the gods and goddesses become mythological characters that are all representations of yourself.

They are all representations of the magnitude of being.

And we,

Just like when we're children,

We disown ourselves,

We disown so much of a part of us because of trauma,

We disown all the parts of us that are the very best part,

Namely the gods and goddesses.

We deny our own divinity,

Right?

In the West,

Claiming oneness or unity with God is blasphemous,

Right?

In the East,

It's yes,

Of course.

And therefore the ego is surrendered to your true self.

And it's not you humbling yourself before being,

It's simply recognizing the truth of your being as opposed to who you thought you were,

Which is totally a fabrication of the mind.

And so the Hindus are just really great.

They're just colorful and happy and… I love the animation.

Good work.

They're just great.

You know,

Unlike the stoic,

You know,

God who doesn't have a mate,

You know,

Wrathful and jealous and petty.

And interestingly enough,

There was one early group of Christians,

The Marcionites,

That actually believed that God,

The Yahweh,

Our God,

Was actually a lesser God,

Who was just a mischief maker,

Right?

And he was just arrogant and full of himself.

And that Christ had actually come from the true God to undo the works of Yahweh.

Sounds like a movie,

Right?

Yeah,

I know.

It's great.

Yeah,

It's kind of,

It's a superhero movie,

Right?

And it got twisted,

Of course,

And Christ became,

You know,

Got kind of absorbed into that theology.

But that was a very real group of people at the time before the official canon had been carefully selected by the Roman Empire.

So all of these,

Whenever you're talking about looking at something,

Especially the Hindu Trinity,

You know,

The pinnacle of it,

Vishnu,

Brahma and Shiva,

You're talking about yourself.

All the gods and goddesses are in you.

Yeah.

I want to say when I was raised Anglican for the first eight years or nine years or something,

Then we did a blend of Judaism and Christianity.

And then it was just,

You know,

I moved out and went,

Ah,

Forget all of that.

But I learned a lot.

And one thing that I always recognized was my father during services,

Church services,

He would skip certain lines.

And one line he would always skip,

And I did ask him one time,

He said,

One of the lines said something like,

We are so humble and not worthy as to even sit at your feet and eat the crumbs or something or other.

And he would refuse to say that.

And I love that he,

I didn't know why at the time I was a very little girl,

But I was like,

Yeah,

I don't want to say that either.

So I love that.

But you said something in there that really made me think when you said we,

We just own our best parts.

And this will come back to Shiva's will,

But we disown our best parts,

The gods and goddesses and ourselves.

And I have many,

I can't even count them,

How many friends I have who could not say that they think they're beautiful,

That they think they're a goddess or god.

They just have disowned it so deeply.

And is that part of Shiva's will?

Is that along the journey there?

Yes.

Yeah.

You know,

In Hinduism,

It's beautiful,

Because all the gods have a consort,

Right?

You know,

Shiva and Shakti.

It's always the dual aspect of it.

And it's always represented as such.

And so it's never out of balance.

Whereas in the West,

It's completely out of balance,

Because it's a very patriarchal,

It's a man,

God is man,

Is a man.

Right?

And you might ask,

Why?

You know,

In many very early intelligent,

You know,

Christian thinkers recognize that God had to be transcendent,

They had to be beyond masculine and feminine,

But we're never able to reconcile that,

You know,

The wrath and sin and all of that with that essential unity.

But that's inevitably what you get when you split being into a bunch of little piece parts,

Right?

There are things that,

You know,

It's like taking a wheel off the car,

Right?

And then set the wheel there.

Okay,

Well,

So what?

Right?

Okay,

Now I got a nice wheel,

Right?

Right?

And the car is,

You know,

Laying out,

You know,

I mean,

It's dysfunctional when you take it all apart.

It has to be put together in its unity.

So Shiva,

Brahma,

Vishnu and Shiva,

They represent creation and duration and dissolution.

So if you look around,

You see this theme of things coming into existence,

Enduring for a while and going out of existence all the time.

It's a representation of the flow of life,

The name of our show,

Right?

The flow,

Right?

That's what it represents.

And notice that it's happening all the time.

Right now your body is turning over cells,

You know,

Millions of them a second,

Right?

Cells are just dying and new ones are being reborn.

This is the cycle of birth and death.

That's what's meant by Shiva's wheel.

And the beauty is in the middle of the wheel is Shiva,

Dancing on the skulls,

Right?

You know,

He's got holding snakes,

I mean,

All sorts of different images,

All of which have a particular meaning.

But remember,

The hub of the wheel doesn't move.

Right,

Yes.

It stays there.

It stays there.

It has to.

Yes.

I was trying to put together a new piece of equipment today.

And yes,

One was just keeps spinning.

I was like,

Oh,

Because I got to hold this part.

Oh,

You've got to have a steady piece.

With it being the wheel,

I love that you said that it's a cycle of birth and death and beauty in the middle.

That is so easy to understand.

We just we get that,

Right?

And it really isn't everything and anything.

And I did have a couple questions come through prior to the show with a wonderful theme.

And I have to ask this question.

The beginning in depth of anything,

It's literally about anything.

And a lot of people say,

You know,

That with every every ending is the new beginning of something,

Because it's a flow,

It's flowing into it.

And every beginning is an ending.

And everything.

Exactly.

So there are it's,

I know what you're gonna say,

It's,

We do want to mourn the things like it's okay to mourn it.

It's okay.

That's good.

What if we don't like it?

What if we are not settled by what the ending brought?

And we don't want to do that.

It's not,

We don't want to choose that path.

We didn't mean to.

We didn't.

We don't.

Right.

Yeah,

I don't know.

Do you know what I'm getting?

Yeah,

I do.

I do know what you're getting at.

And it's the essential conflict in human life.

I don't like the way things are.

Yeah.

There you go.

That's it.

And that,

And that thought is the cause of suffering.

All suffering results from an argument with what is.

And the assumption that it should be something else.

Right?

Who said it was supposed to be something else?

I did.

Right?

It's not to my personal liking.

Right?

And then of course,

Then there's my group,

Right?

My tribe and my country.

And we've all decided this is the way it's supposed to be.

And everybody should be like that.

And we're going to try to force it to be that way.

We have to come to terms with the fact that our ideas about what we think things should be,

Right,

Are also subject to change.

You don't feel the same way you did 10 years ago.

You don't want the same things.

Right?

You don't.

If what was happening 10 years ago was happening now and 10 years ago it was perfect,

You'd be arguing with it now.

You'd be hating it.

Yes.

Right?

So our sense of,

We are totally bored.

Yeah.

Our sense of what is supposed to be is completely,

Is totally fragile.

It too is constantly changing.

Right?

So it's not trustworthy.

It's not reliable.

You can't anchor your happiness there.

In that,

I'm going to throw devil's advocate here.

She was there.

What if we suddenly do like something now that we wanted it to change and it didn't change,

But now we,

How do we know that we haven't just settled,

Haven't just fallen in love with our kidnapper?

You know what I mean?

You know,

I think it's crazy to think.

How do we know it's true?

Well,

You're starting to look pretty good.

We get crazy to think there.

Well,

This is the realm of spiritual maturity where we have to,

Is it just sour grapes or am I truly surrendered to this moment?

And the ego can't surrender.

Right?

If there's a feeling of resistance to this moment,

Then the ego is still in charge.

You haven't surrendered to the truth.

And the truth is everything is just the way it's supposed to be.

Now,

If I really believe that,

I would never be discontent.

I would never be afraid.

I would have no anxiety or worry.

Right?

We just live in a state of constant contentment.

But is that settling or is that the recognition of the reality?

Right.

Yes.

That's the difference.

And there's the difference.

If it's just sour grapes,

Like,

Oh,

Okay,

You know,

God opens,

You know,

God closes one door,

He'll open another.

We make all these nice little things,

Right,

To make ourselves feel better.

But deep down inside,

I don't like it.

I don't want it to be here.

If we're really devoted to the spiritual path,

That's what we want to look at.

Why am I against this?

Why am I antagonistic towards this?

What am I holding on to that's making this moment not okay?

And which is more reliable?

What's actually happening?

Or what I think is happening?

Right.

Somebody just said they loved your earrings,

By the way.

I just noticed that.

I just noticed that.

I just noticed that goodbye.

That's my favorite thing.

I'm all about the earrings.

And they do say love,

By the way.

Thank you very much.

I love this thing.

I love them.

She is all about the earrings.

Yes.

I love earrings.

So,

In that essence right there,

Is that a part of Shiva's will as well?

Because there is a creation of a thought,

Then living it and the beauty of it,

Whether that is or not,

And then the destruction of it when we come to truth.

Yes.

Yes.

Shiva also represents not just,

You know,

What we see happening every day in the world.

It also,

Shiva also represents the end of the ego.

That's what,

That's the skulls and things that he's dancing on.

It's the end of birth and death.

That's what he represents.

Oh,

Okay.

The end of the entire cycle.

It isn't just,

You know,

It's going to go on perpetually.

He's sitting in the middle.

He's the right,

You know,

And yes,

That's what we think,

Right?

You know,

One lifetime after another.

I mean,

How many lifetimes before you just get,

God,

I'm so,

And I don't want another one.

Thank you very much.

Sometimes I think that.

And I'll be really honest.

Of course,

Of course we do.

Because it is.

We think it's,

You know,

It's glorious to have these glorious past lives.

You know,

We don't want to remember the 18 lives we spent as a serf working in the field all day,

Right?

We don't want to remember that.

You know,

Another life,

You really want to go through high school again?

Right,

Yes.

No,

Thank you.

This is something I was thinking about.

I have two cats,

Not the one that just is always loud and interrupts everything.

That's Lucy.

But Brinks,

And he's an older kitty and I can see he's getting older.

He's getting closer to that destruction part of the cycle.

And I found myself just asking him at first to please don't go because you don't want to come back this time right now.

Because when I was when you came back,

I'm like,

You've got your best life right now,

Right here,

I think.

And of course,

Then I felt guilty for asking him not to come back in case another little girl needs him and all that stuff.

But there's this,

Do we ever get to decide,

To decide,

Truly decide when it is the end of all ego that we are done?

That's no more,

No more.

Not really.

No way.

Not really.

But yeah,

But it happens.

You know,

Something just kind of wakes up inside of us.

And we see the futility of it.

Once you see the ego as the ego and not as yourself,

It loses its allure.

It loses its attractiveness.

When you see that that the personal sense of self is the cause of all the mischief in our lives and in the entire world.

I mean,

The world is nothing but the ego on steroids right now.

That's that's what's actually happening.

Right?

And I think we can point fingers at this person or that system or what they're doing,

But at the heart and soul of it is the personal sense of self.

And it's relentless attempt to,

At self-aggrandizement and to keep,

To sustain itself.

This is the true meaning of the destruction.

This is the true death.

When that is seen through.

But it's not the death like you're going to kill it.

Because you can't kill a cartoon character.

It's not real.

Right?

It's a fabrication of the mind.

And so the destruction is actually the end of the belief in a separate self.

And that's what Shiva represents.

He represents the real you that is at the center that is watching the constant of birth,

Life and death,

Birth,

Life and death,

Birth,

Life and death.

The consciousness that is sitting watching that,

Once it has disidentified with the wheel,

Sits at the hub of the wheel.

And at that point,

It doesn't matter what the wheel does.

Yes.

Yeah.

It's like seeing a card trick and being so amazed that you want to know how they did it.

But then when you really find out how they did it,

You wish you didn't know how they did it.

Right.

The magic's gone.

The magic's gone.

So I have a couple questions that came in around this.

I want to word it so that I'm not like I want it to include everybody.

You know what I mean?

Like this is a very individual personal question.

Like not a person,

But you know what I mean?

Like details are there.

But I want everybody to kind of feel that this is helping them.

And well,

Let's do this as a general question.

So right now,

A lot of people are moving.

You know,

They're changing locations,

Whether it's their home itself or a position,

A job relationship.

But I'm going to take moving because this includes the uprooting the death of where you're anchored,

Where you find your roots,

Your home,

Your grounding,

Your family.

And if we're looking at Shiva's wheel and having this,

How can we find common peace when the beauty in there,

The beauty,

Is that the unknown?

Is the beauty the spontaneity?

Is the beauty all the experiences that will happen in there?

And we should trust,

And somebody mentioned this,

Trust in the process along the path.

Is that how we can use Shiva's wheel to feel safe in leaving something so home and rooted?

Yeah.

The only way to feel safe,

The only way to feel really rooted is to be rooted in that which is unchanging.

And there's no such thing as the absence of change in the world.

That's what that's again,

What Shiva's wheel represents.

It never sits still.

You cannot make the impermanent permanent.

No super being can do that.

Can,

You know,

There's nobody so powerful they can make the impermanent permanent.

They are completely opposite.

And so we have to discover the permanent.

We have to discover that which is changeless.

And when we do,

Then the constant change of life actually becomes quite enjoyable.

It becomes even a celebration.

Because without perpetual change,

Life is actually impossible.

That's all there is,

Is perpetual change.

Life is a flow.

There's never a moment when life is static.

Doesn't matter how thinly you slice time,

You will not find a static thing.

This is one of the revelations that even in science in quantum,

Defining it as a wave.

We've been looking for the particles,

The atom,

The essential,

You know,

And when I was a kid,

The idea was that there was,

You know,

It was like a little billiard ball,

Right?

They were just really,

Really,

Really little.

Even though when I was a kid,

Quantum was around,

It hadn't,

The magnitude of it hadn't sunk in yet.

But a wave isn't like that.

If you look at a wave in the ocean,

It has a cycle.

It's in space and time.

You can't,

If you freeze it,

If you take a slice of it,

You don't have a wave anymore.

It ceases to exist.

And this is again what is represented by the wheel.

You cannot stop it.

If you do,

Life stops,

Right?

And yet,

At the same time,

The mystery of it is,

It doesn't matter how thinly you slice it,

You never find anything at all.

There's nothing there.

It's like space itself is flowing,

Or more accurately,

Consciousness.

The essential consciousness,

It's like a self-modulating substance.

We've been looking for that,

Yes.

Yes,

It's a self-modulating substance.

Okay,

I'm going to go out on a limb here a bit.

Because it's something to really contemplate.

You've heard me say before how light,

The color is not an aspect of the flower.

It's an aspect of light.

If the rose was red,

It would be red,

Even in pitch blackness.

Because if the color belonged to it.

So the color doesn't belong to the rose.

It belongs to the light bouncing off of it.

And light in its wholeness can't be seen.

It's only when part of it is absorbed and part is reflected,

That is,

It appears to be broken into pieces,

That anything becomes visible at all.

Now that's the case,

You know,

The light strikes the rose,

Bounces off,

Gets to your eye,

You go,

Ooh,

Pretty rose,

Right?

Wonderful.

All right.

So what if light had the ability to self-modulate itself,

To actually hold back certain aspects of it and make other aspects known?

You would see a rose and there'd be nothing there.

It would simply be an image,

Right?

If light could do that.

Now imagine there's a substance that can self-modulate,

Not just light,

But touch,

Taste,

Smell,

Sound,

Thought.

You would have a completely self-modulated world and no world would actually exist objectively.

Wow.

Yeah.

That self-modulating substance is consciousness,

That's exactly what it does.

Okay,

Now this is where the student is.

Nervous to say it doesn't sound really dumb,

But I'm going to say it so.

Because when you said self-modulate,

To say how much light am I going to shine here and which part of the light and which part of the taste,

That's us then because we are light beings and so we are actually moderating,

I should say actually,

Of how much we witness,

See,

Experience because we block some of the things off out of fear for not being safe.

Uh-huh.

On one level,

But on another level you could see that all of your thoughts and feelings and experiences are the modulation of consciousness,

Right?

Right,

Yes.

That you,

What you call your life is a modulation of consciousness.

The sense of having a personal will that is actually acting out their life and making choices is also a modulation of consciousness.

There is nobody acting out there,

There is nobody making a decision,

There are no choices being made by the image,

Right?

Just like the rose would not exist,

It would just be a modulation of light.

The experience of it would still be there,

Just as,

Just as beautiful,

Just as magnificent,

Matter of fact more so because it would be understood in its essence.

There'd be no world to be afraid of and then you could say with the gods,

It is all myself for it is all emanated from me which is the essence of the Upanishads and that is the statement of Brahman,

It is all myself.

Am I working with you,

The image of GP right now,

Literally,

But am I working with the image of the physical body GP right now to see and experience the world the way my consciousness is doing,

Choosing?

Yes,

It's all that,

It's all that in every single one of its manifestations,

However small or large,

However as complex as you know,

Electronic setup and lights and all of this kind of stuff or the flower,

Right?

Because consciousness has no limits,

It's infinite,

There is absolutely no limit whatsoever on what can manifest,

Right?

But it's a wave,

So it all doesn't manifest at once and in that all,

In that manifestation taking place,

Not all at once,

You have the creation of time.

And so consciousness appears as form in time,

But consciousness itself is formless and timeless.

That which is modulating,

Right,

Is not anything that it modulates.

Right,

Right,

Okay,

Yes,

I get that.

That was actually,

I like that,

It doesn't happen all at once,

I love that,

Yes,

A lot of people think that it kind of does and doesn't.

I am going to take this time.

Well,

They think of time instead of timelessness,

They think of infinite time,

Eternity is infinite time,

Eternity is timeless.

Time is inherent in form and you can't have form without it,

No time,

No music,

Right,

No dancing,

Right?

That's how manifestation takes place,

But time is part of the manifestation,

It's inherent in it,

It doesn't exist independently from it.

So consciousness which gives rise to it is absolutely timeless.

It's Shiva in the middle.

Yes,

Oh my gosh,

Okay,

See I didn't know I was ready to go that deep on this one,

My goodness.

I always,

As you can see,

I'm sometimes a little reluctant from going this because I don't want to lose anybody.

If that went over your head,

Don't worry about it,

We'll be back to reconciling with our inner critters.

We'll be right back with reconciling in a minute.

Yes,

I'm glad that you said that and you know what,

And don't feel lost anybody because honestly I had to listen to you say the same thing probably a hundred times and I went oh wait,

Wait,

I put that piece in the thing forever and it finally went there.

So and actually let's do a check in,

I think this is a nice time so we're a little more than halfway through and this is a great place to say hello to everybody and see if there are some comments and questions just like the palm part and I have a couple of not just announcements but things to say so oh I have to go way back.

Well how about instead if I go all the way back because there are quite a few,

I do want to say hello to anybody,

Everybody who is here.

We've got so many regulars and new people and oh and Penny is here,

Look at that,

Look at that and I do want to say Danielle Prue is here and if you have not,

I have to highlight this,

She runs the EWN channel en France.

And if anybody wants to say,

Bonjour,

Merci,

There's my French.

That is not all your French,

That is probably way more and just yeah so let me see if there's any question questions.

However I do have to make this,

This is a funny comment from Merck Goff or Gough,

I'm so hopefully I said that right,

My friend just saw you guys and asked who those religious looking crazies were,

Ah the irony.

The irony of it,

Yes.

Next week I'm going to bring out,

I'm going to break out my orange robe.

And I really should grow one of those huge beards right.

You can put blades in it and do a bunch of fun stuff there.

Okay so there is,

Oh I like,

This is a good question here,

So Joanne McCann,

Do you think it's necessary to have a Kundalini experience in order to reach our spiritual best?

What else do I have?

Yes and no,

As always,

Sorry,

The mystery of it.

The way the Kundalini experience has been interpreted by the West is it's a very physical experience.

It's something you do a certain process and then the energy shoots up your spinal column all the way up through and then when it gets to the crown you are now,

You know you have the experience.

But the original meaning of the chakras and the Kundalini,

The Kundalini model is the one we're all familiar with.

That's what the chakras are arranged in a row up and down this center.

Also in the traditional images they always have two snakes coiled around the center.

The snake is in the east represents immortality because the snake sheds its skin.

It represents death and resurrection.

So metaphorically the lower three chakras,

The one,

Two and three,

Which I've named the tribe,

The nymph and the storyteller,

They represent the animal instinctual life.

They represent the mortal form.

And when the energy of consciousness,

And the true Kundalini energy is the emergence of self-awareness,

When that happens it's at the crossover point of the heart,

Which also is represented by the cross.

All of the crosses,

Including the cross of Christ and the sacred heart of Christ and all that,

It's all part of the symbology.

And that crossover point represents the death of the instinctual self and the birth of the spiritual self,

Which then transcends into the higher levels of creation,

Of vision and eventually transcendence,

Which I call the creator,

The visionary and the sage,

Which are the representative,

The higher aspects.

And that's what the snake represents.

So for the most part,

Our world is trapped in the lower three.

It is all about survival and about aggression and about attainment and achievement.

You know,

All the thoughts about success and all of that kind of stuff,

That's all the third chakra storyteller.

It's all defining life in terms of physicality.

It's our,

The animal nature we share with all other animals.

But the gift of the human being is that it can be transcended through self-awareness and that birth of consciousness,

Which has happened to everyone here,

Because if it hadn't,

You wouldn't be here.

You wouldn't be listening,

Right?

You'd be doing something else right now.

And that birth of consciousness is not something we consciously do.

The instinctual cannot do it.

It has no way of doing it.

Right?

So it happens because it's destiny,

It's the way it has to be.

This is,

Your awakening is absolutely guaranteed.

And so it all represents the ascension of the Kundalini.

In the West it has been reduced down to this process and energy and having this particular kind of experience.

Just the way yoga,

Which you know is union,

Reunion is the reconnection that is the disappearance of the self into the whole,

Has been reduced to exercise.

Meditation has been reduced to stress relief.

Right?

I mean that's what happens.

The West,

That which is completely steeped in the lower three,

Is interpreting the higher coming from the East from the perspective of the instinctual and animal.

It just wants to commandeer everything there.

Because when you step into the heart you've taken the first step out of the egoic mind,

Which is the third chakra storyteller.

And you are headed towards total union with reality,

With the true self.

In that process you disappear.

That's why it's a death and a resurrection.

Right?

The ego is completely destroyed.

It's like,

Right?

Not in the sense of,

Yeah,

Beat it up,

Because there was nothing there in the first place.

It seemed to be the illusion that it is.

It seemed to be samsara or maya.

And the seeing of it as samsara immediately flips you into nirvana.

Now everything is the self.

Everything is God.

Everything is reality.

And the very same experience,

Which before was burdensome,

Now becomes a celebration.

I love that you said resurrection over birth in this particular instance,

Because it is that we are remembered.

It's not a new creation.

It is the resurrection of,

The bringing forward of.

Yes.

It's a recognition,

A re-cognizing.

Right.

Yes.

I love that.

Yes.

And that is such a,

I want to take this time to share with everybody.

If you have not listened to it,

Watched it,

Done it,

GPU created a chakra series,

Like Understanding Them.

I think our show was titled Putting a New Spin on the Chakras.

Yes.

Clever.

I still think this is very cleverly so.

If I do say so myself,

Then I just did.

Honestly,

It's worth listening to it a few times over,

Because the way you do,

You give names to each of the chakras.

It's like an archetype,

It's a character,

It's animated,

But it made a lot of sense to me and I listened to it a few times.

And I really enjoyed it.

It kind of just cleared up a lot of things,

Because I don't think I would have been able to even step near inner reconciliation,

The IR course,

If I had not done.

That's just for me,

A personal thing,

Everybody.

So if anybody here,

If you've done,

If you've listened to it,

Because we can put a link in the comments after this.

Actually,

It's really easy.

It's gpwalsh.

Com slash chakras with an S.

So I had to say that.

That's actually the paid course.

It's chakras dash intro for the free one.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

I was checking that out yesterday and I,

Ooh,

Look.

Look at that.

See,

Look at that.

I'm the same way.

Literally.

And so,

Same screen and everything.

You guys have to just check that out.

And if it's been a while,

Do that again too,

Because actually,

In fact,

You are going to be teaching the inner reconciliation course,

The IR course coming up in September.

So you already have some homework before getting there,

But I think the chakras is a great precursor.

Yes,

To do that as well.

It's helpful.

And so,

A few things there.

Like I love how it's all coming together with the birth and the death and the beauty in the middle and the resurrection and everything.

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So with the Shiva's wheel,

If somebody were to hold,

If I was to hold that image in my mind maybe for meditation,

Maybe just as a life lesson,

Like a teaching,

What would,

What would be the best use of it?

Like,

Cause I'm not trying to go into my mind here.

How could I use this to help me find more peace and end some of my suffering?

Well that,

That to me is the whole point.

That's the whole motivation behind it.

Every now and then I get some scathing comment from somebody who claims I'm not really teaching non-duality,

Right?

Oh!

Right?

That's not pure Advaita.

How do you fix a self when there is no self?

Right?

Which,

Which,

Which means they've just kind of taken a smattering of what I've had to say and not actually imbibed at all.

Buddha was accused of the same thing,

Nihilism and the such like.

The whole point is,

Is to alleviate suffering and be happy,

To be content.

And the only way we can do that is to drop our argument with life.

And to be able to drop our argument with life we have to understand what life is.

We have to understand its nature.

That's what,

That's what the gods give us,

Right?

They are a projection of our consciousness onto the world that allows us to understand the nature of the world as the manifestation of consciousness or the self,

Right?

Not the manifestation of me,

Myself as in this little,

You know,

This little ego.

That would be the height of arrogance.

It's all about me,

Right?

But it is all about the me.

It is all about the self,

That which is the being that animates everything,

Absolutely everything,

Every thought,

Every experience,

Every moment,

Every memory,

Every cell,

Every particle is the emanation of the self.

When I know myself as that,

Right?

Not as something else.

See in the West,

Even when we've have seen the,

The,

The,

It is,

That God is imminent,

That God is animating all things,

There's still this residual sense of it being an other.

Yes,

I did.

I just got it.

Yes.

I was like,

Oh,

I still feel God separate.

We talk about pure awareness or consciousness and we're,

It's something out there,

Right?

I'm,

I'm trying to get to consciousness.

I say,

Well,

What can possibly get to consciousness other than consciousness?

What,

You're not conscious?

So when,

When we realize that the allness of God,

The allness of Shiva,

The allness of Brahma,

That has to include me.

So I am the Brahman self.

That's my true identity.

That was,

Is what got covered up by conditioning and identification with the body.

That's who I forgot.

Even the original innocence you hear me talk about,

That the pure you that was there before anything was conditioned,

We imagine that to be some kind of person.

That which,

That which was covered up by identification with the body is the self,

The true self,

The only self.

That is God.

That is the I am.

Now everybody has a sense of existence,

Right?

I mean if I was to say to anybody here who does not exist,

Please raise your hand.

We all,

We all intuitively know it.

Now none of you created it,

Right?

You know,

You don't start it up when you get up in the morning,

Right?

It's always there.

That sense is the I am.

That is your being.

That is God.

That's actually what Moses experienced,

The whole burning bush thing and everything,

I am that I am.

Moses realized the one I am.

Of course Moses didn't really exist either,

But that's another.

Oh don't do that,

No,

I can't handle it.

That's another,

He's another mythological character,

But that's what is represented.

God's revelation that he is your very being,

Right?

The meditation on Shiva is the breaking down of the walls that thinks there's anything but Shiva and you find that Shiva,

The worship of Shiva culminates in the worshiper realizing that Shiva is their very nature.

Right.

Shiva is the nature of all being,

Therefore I am Shiva.

Somebody,

Joanne was asking something about Jehovah's Witnesses,

The particular name,

Yahweh,

The same God,

So many names,

How does one know who is and what is God's name?

They're all names for God.

I mean how do you give a name to the infinite,

Right?

The moment you give it a name you've like compressed it into a form,

Right?

Forms have names,

But the ultimate,

The sense I am can't have a name,

Right?

So the best name,

You know,

The street name is me.

That's the best name for God.

When horses would be the barn name,

Right?

I mean that's their official name and then there's their barn name,

Right?

Everybody knows him as,

Right?

Yes,

It's God the magnificent,

The all encompassing,

The all knowing,

But when he goes on it's just me.

You know me,

It's me.

It's just me,

Right?

Well,

Who else would it be?

This is the thing,

Are you not aware?

Isn't that the awareness?

What can be aware of awareness other than awareness?

This is the,

You'll see the struggle because the mind is just determined to turn it into another.

And it's you.

It's you.

You want to see Shiva?

Look in the mirror.

Yes,

That is beautiful.

That's,

This is so,

This is really,

Yeah this,

I love when it goes somewhere that I can't even imagine.

You know,

I've got a couple of my questions lined up and I think,

You know,

We're going to ask this question,

Get this answer,

Do this activity and then boom,

End suffering.

But it's never quite that way.

It's a little bit more peaceful to be honest with you.

It's a little less 3D-ish,

Physical,

Worldly.

It's more of a sense.

Oh yes,

It's a sense.

It's effortless,

You know.

As I say,

Non-duality is the lazy man's religion.

I'll take it.

There's even a statement in,

I don't remember which Gita it's in,

But it says,

For the sage,

Even blinking is too much of an effort.

Okay,

That's another teacher one,

But I like it.

And yes,

We,

Oh,

I know what I was,

I wrote these two words down.

Just to wrap up on that one is conditioning and identification,

Which we talk about all the time.

Is that,

I don't want to say our sin.

That's a weird one.

No,

It's a good word,

Actually.

Is it?

If it's,

Yes.

Because you want to go back to the.

.

.

Again,

This sin is a word that's been distorted as well.

And originally,

It simply meant a mistake.

You missed the mark,

Right?

But it became this severe thing in that particular tradition.

In the fall in Christianity,

Adam and Eve,

This horrible sin that they need to be punished for,

Was disobedience.

I mean,

That's pure first chakra tribal stuff,

Right?

Disobedience is the number one sin.

And that's childish,

Right?

Yeah,

That's the number one problem with children.

Disobedience is a severe thing in children.

If you want to remain perpetually a child,

Then disobedience is the structure of it.

It's interesting that I believe,

I'm not an expert in Islam,

But I believe that they have a very different,

It's the same story.

It's based on the same books,

Right?

And they have the Adam and Eve story,

But it's seen as a mistake,

As a misconception,

Not as this thing that they're punished for forever.

But any,

You know,

You can have the most perfectly deduced conclusions,

But if your premise is off even a little,

The conclusion is going to be mistaken.

It's going to be wrong,

Right?

Even though it's been perfectly reasoned out every step along the way,

That one little flaw back there just spreads out,

You know,

Like the trajectory in space.

You know,

If you're off by even a notch over extreme distances,

You've missed it by a million miles.

Yes.

I'm thinking of like accounting spreadsheets and lottery numbers right now and winning the game.

Oh,

Yeah.

Oh,

Yeah.

I've had to do some complex spreadsheets in my life.

What in the heck is wrong?

And you're going all the way back here,

This tiny little,

It's like,

Oh,

God.

But then you go click and everything just perfection,

Right?

We can do that.

That's exactly what we're doing.

Yes,

That's exactly what we're going.

We're going back to the very original sin,

The original mistake,

I am the body.

That's the original mistake.

You know,

G.

P.

,

Actually that's so helpful.

I hope that everybody can hear this coming from my heart is I always say that I feel like G.

P.

,

You've taught me how to let myself off the hook for everything I've ever felt like I've done wrong.

Because it's like when you get to – And you didn't even have to make a big donation to the church.

Yes,

Yes.

I was like,

No.

Because it's like I've gone back to where that first conditioning or identification happened and I tweaked my – I took my lenses and put them in and then everything after that just got cleared up and corrected back to a pure loving place.

And so I think,

Well,

Of course.

And so I have also done this,

Thank goodness,

Good or bad.

I actually have this for other people.

I just go,

Well,

Somewhere along the line,

They have identification or conditioning that didn't serve them,

Took them further away.

And now if I can at least see them in the way that is just pure and is and there's just a mistake,

Then the rest of it kind of falls apart for me as well.

And it's nice to see people that way.

Does everybody else feel that way?

Well,

And that's exactly right.

That's what true compassion is.

Compassion.

The discovery that you realize that they simply have not seen their mistake yet.

That's it.

That's the only thing.

There's no evil people,

Right?

There's no horrible beings.

They are all acting out their conditioning and take them all back to that same place,

You know,

Whether it be,

You know,

A Hitler or,

You know,

The most horrible people you can imagine,

That's just what's extrapolated out of that essential disconnect that took place in absolutely everyone.

And it did take place in absolutely everyone.

And it's only because of the particular set of circumstances that somebody ends up a Hitler or a Republican.

Sorry,

I didn't mean to conflate the two of those.

You know,

A politician of some sort,

Somebody who's completely disconnected and unempathetic.

That's a result of that essential disconnect.

That's why I just love the spiritual path.

It's just essential.

That's why it's called the direct path.

You go right to the root.

Go right to the one cause of all the problems.

We can spend a million years out here trying to adjust our chakras and,

You know,

Reimagining the past and all sorts of self-help and stuff.

But all of that is basically trimming the bush,

Right,

And the roots are rotten.

You've got to get to the root.

I have to share this.

As a nutritionist,

That's what I do half of my life.

And a lot of people will come to me and say,

Well,

Can I eat,

I'm just giving an example.

Can I eat Twix chocolate bars?

No.

Can you eat O'Henry chocolate bars?

No.

What about this?

No.

You could have all these details.

There's all these,

They're all,

What it is,

Is that can we reduce or remove sugar?

Can we remove the toxins?

They're all toxins.

It doesn't matter.

It's about all the toxins,

And that's the root.

The direct root is remove the toxins.

Stop putting them in your body.

And so it's kind of made me think of that there.

But no,

You're absolutely right.

Yeah.

We want to do it one thing at a time.

Well,

Can I hold on to this?

Can I hold on to this?

Can I hold on to this?

Negotiate.

Well,

Look at it.

What is it?

It's a different form of the same thing.

Yeah,

Exactly.

Yeah.

And that's where the inner reconciliation really comes in handy because it's not a matter of me telling people,

Like I am very gentle with people too.

I do let them negotiate for a little bit,

But it's just for a little bit because as you shared with me,

GP,

Inner reconciliation,

It can be like that,

But it also,

Your nervous system needs to take its time to reprogram itself.

And so yes,

Your enlightenment happens.

Yes,

This happens.

It's like that.

It's happened,

But we have to catch up.

Our nervous system has to catch up and that's why I am inviting everybody to check out all the different courses that GP,

You do have.

There's free ones,

There's little cost ones,

There's a little bit bigger cost ones,

But there's just always a place to start that I get it.

We all get it that we are human and having a teacher,

Having a pointer,

Seeing the way and having that support along the way to asking these questions constantly,

Like just checking in,

It really supports that shift,

The shedding of it,

The death of ego and happiness and suffering.

So I am going to invite everybody again to gpwalsh.

Com.

Thank you.

Thank you,

Lisa.

You know,

There is one question here that I really want to ask because I know we are getting short here,

But I really wanted to do it because it's so much in public awareness right now because Joanne asked,

Do you think that the Vatican and other religious leaders use this tool as a controlling system?

And it's not just the Vatican,

Of course,

It's various cultures,

It's political systems,

Every thought system becomes an ideology,

Right?

And I think the only way we can really see through this is that yes,

It is being used as a controlling system,

But the system is controlling them as well.

There's an essential ignorance to the entire thing.

Capitalism is a totally destructive economic system.

It has proven itself to be that way.

It does not bear any of the fruit that it claims to be able to bear.

That those who continue to perpetuate it completely believe that this is the right way,

Right?

What's happening in the world now isn't a bunch of guys sitting in the smoke-filled room,

The Illuminati or something like that,

That know it's all evil and are enjoying that,

Right?

They don't know it.

This is what they think is supposed to be.

That's why you don't have to have a central group of people somewhere,

Right,

That are pulling the strings.

They're everywhere because they all think alike.

They are all laboring under the same ideological system.

And there's nothing in the system,

There's nothing in any ideological system that says,

Question the system.

You have to step into the world of genuine spirituality before you have the,

You've passed the heart space,

You're out of the lower three chakras and moving into the upper ones to even question those three,

Right?

So again,

I always want to point out,

There's nobody to blame for this.

We're looking at systems of thoughts,

Not evil people.

And if you can see that,

The world will start looking very differently.

And from that perspective,

You can begin to approach it from the level,

Not of conflict,

But of understanding.

This requires education,

Not confrontation.

It won't work,

Because it'll just be replaced by another ideological system,

Which will do the same thing because all ideologies eventually fall back in on themselves.

Yeah,

GPS.

I like replacing the word people or person with system because if I were to hate a person,

It actually really hurts my heart.

But if I can question the system and know it's not bearing fruit,

That makes me feel a little better.

And I feel like I can do something about it.

So I appreciate it.

You can.

You can.

And it also,

You awaken to the fact that the one you called evil isn't.

They are acting out what they believe to be good,

Right?

But you are perceiving it from a higher level.

So your sense of value is more elevated.

It's closer to the truth,

Right?

Now that doesn't mean we may have to protect ourselves from people who don't know.

Right?

Don't swim with sharks.

No,

I don't swim.

As I point out,

Yeah,

I don't swim with sharks.

They're sharks.

That's what they do,

Right?

And until it is seen by them,

That behavior will continue.

And so it becomes a matter of developing that kind of compassion that allows for the opening of the hearts of those whose hearts are closed by ideology.

And that's what ideology does.

It closes the heart.

That's how you get fundamentalist.

I have to write that down.

Ideology closes the heart.

Sorry,

That was one of my notes.

I like that one.

Not that I like it,

But it's valuable.

I like it.

I like that.

Yeah,

I like that.

It can start to be functioning.

And actually that's a perfect place to close this off is this is what self-encore is.

It's beginning to inquire,

To ask these questions.

And I love this whole process.

Like,

Okay,

What are the right questions to ask where I can get somewhere and not just be spinning my wheels?

Let's spin the chakras,

Not the wheels.

And so,

Yeah,

That's right.

Let's get in this hub,

Right?

I don't want to hang on to the edge of the wheel,

Right?

Like the kids,

You know,

Like that thing in the playground.

So the next two things we would love to invite you to,

As I've been doing a lot of inviting invitation in here,

Is on Sundays,

You can always go to YouTube.

And if you go there,

Please,

Even if you just go right now to make sure you get them,

Subscribe to GP Walsh's channel on YouTube,

Like it and get that notification bell on because then you'll know when he does go live.

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And why I want to just let you know about that channel specifically is there is that's that's that song.

So that is S A T S A N G.

And that way you can actually interact with GP,

You know,

And and meet some other wonderful people there.

So Sunday,

Every Sunday at 3 p.

M.

Eastern,

And then here Tuesday in the group at 12 p.

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Eastern.

And you'll know all of this if you get on the light letter.

So go to GP Walsh dot com and we'll go there.

I think I'll leave it at those ones.

All right,

GP,

Thank you so much.

And thank you,

Everybody who is as shown up here has been here.

There's so many beautiful names and everything else.

But I just want to say hello and thank you for being here.

We can go back in and do some comments.

GP will respond and put some links.

Yes.

Thank you all.

Thank you all so much.

Bye everyone.

Until next Tuesday.

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